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> Discuss German politics

https://www.techtimes.com/articles/324567/20260815/germany-grants-spy-agencies-postwar-first-powers-hack-sabotage-fake-citizens-messages.htm

https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-to-give-spies-bnd-new-powers-to-counter-russia-threat/

> Previous thread
>>540767205

After disappearing for several months, is Kraut/pol/ finally back for good?
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I warned you that the leipzig incident was just a psyop to pass a german "patriot act"
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>>540874087
This is a fake message I did not write this.
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>>540874087
traitors get the rope
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>>540874592
Obvious af.
Merz polls abysmall he is pro war. Afd booming they are anti war.

Booom! Look! War! Here! Merz was right vote hard quick big vad russia
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>>540874592
> Nordstream pipeline blown up
> Unexploded drone found at airport

Did they figure out yet who was responsible?
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>>540875250
>Afd anti war.
Afd is pro war against the german people
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>>540875739
ok show where you read that
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Mexican in Bremen here: this is paradise!. Bremen is so beautiful, clean, orderly and prosperous!

Bremen is the most civiluzed place ever!

UwwU
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>>540874087

>too busy rn bumping the bread 24/7

If you can keep it...
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>>540875211
The AfD is anti- I love eating Döner Kebab and Currywurst. Somalian in Berlin here: this is paradise! Berlin is so beautiful, clean, orderly and prosperous!

Berlin is the most civilized place ever –
even the nightclubs have medical facilities!
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>>540876973
Very right wing
I am sure Ernest Rohm would agree
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Part 1/2 of some badly structured observations I made in regards to how America sees Europe
America views Europe in a very judiazed lens. Look at how Europe is portrayed in movies. Europeans are always sex crazed. They do nothing but drink cappuccino and have weird sex and do drugs.
As well as this idea that if you go to Europe you start becoming communist or an existentialist
Even though there is an element of truth to that, it's not totally true.
Some of the early Hollywood movies about Europe were made by Jews that gave the Americans this fantastical and non nonsensical view of Europe
Europe is portrayed as this feminine damsel in distress that needs helping by a strong man (subconsciously, America)
Part of the reason jews portrayed Europe this way is because this is how they wished Europe was like for them!

I mean(this is mostly Anglo-American), they always portray European men as gay and their women sexually perverted
In the movie, Roman Holiday, Audrey Hepburn all of a sudden starts dancing because she did drugs in some club in Rome (iirc) is not really how things happen in Europe

It's an American movie, starring a British actress, but directed by a jew who emigrated from Europe.

If you think about it, this is also similar to what Europe did with the Middle East, with European Orientalism. This sort of view of the middle east as a place of islam and harems and exoticism, etc...

Then again, this idea is somewhat breaking down but not fully since Americans visit Paris but they dont actually live true Paris, because they are just going to a glorified disneyland (which Paris also has)
In reality people live in Paris, it's not some sort of amusement park where people just sit outside cafes all day long while plotting protests all day long. It's an actual city that has its good and bad.
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2/2
One movie that I hate to praise because I am Greek, that strangely goes against this narrative (I think unintentionally) and is the new Christopher Nolan's Odyssey
It's basically devoid of anything that has to do with the actual story; The english is not spoken like some sort of clean british accent, instead, even the british actors speak a modern american tongue

So, this adaption of the Odyssey, while not faithful, this is actually just American self insertion to an ancient world which Americans never really had

Also, about European Orientalism, think about it this way, most of Shakespeare's plays, are never in England
Hamlet? Denmark
Othello? Cyprus
Romeo and Julliet? Italy
Winter's Tale? Bohemia
Pericles? Lebanon
MacBeth? Scotland

perhaps European orientalism was sort of made for Europe to strengthen this idea of being an Englishman or a Frenchman, because a lot of this homogenous view of Europe is probably a way for Americans to feel more connected to their roots, so that they dont feel so aimless, disconnected, and rootless
maybe this is Nolan's true achievement, foreigners don't see the Greek connection to the Odyssey, so they don't feel the appeal of stealing Greek culture in a way that is not accurate

Anyways I am rambling. Maybe someone finds this interesting or something idk
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bump
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>>540875347
>>540874592
A failed detonator prevented a real German 9-11. The laws we're prepared in advance to that, and they're pushing them through regardless
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* were not we're
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>>540881458
> maybe someone finds this interesting
Not really. You’re shitting up the thread.

> CDU/SPD coalition historically unpopular
> Merz appoints new chief of staff (Nina Warken)
> New chief of staff wants to “quickly” reform German intelligence agencies
https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/bundesregierung-will-geheimdienst-reform-schnell-voranbringen-sicherheitsexperte-lobt-massnahmen-100.html

What recent events pushed the German government to now quickly want to introduce historic reforms that expand the powers of German intel agencies?

Why are historic changes needed now?
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>>540882868
>Why are historic changes needed now?
To fortify the mic stock market profits and pushing further into a real war with Russia. Unable to realize the contradiction.
Basically feeding the euro epstein pedovore elites and gereatic cold war boomer wannabenazis
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>>540882868
>Not really. You’re shitting up the thread.
Okay, my bad.
>What recent events pushed the German government to now quickly want to introduce historic reforms that expand the powers of German intel agencies?
Does it not say in the article?
>Mit Blick auf die Drohnensichtung am Flughafen Leipzig/Halle erklärte Geiger, dass die deutschen Verwaltungs- und Beschaffungsapparate bei Bundeswehr und Polizei hinsichtlich der Abwehr von Drohnen vor großen Herausforderungen stünden
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>>540874592
> drone found hovering near the ground close to two parked Ukrainian cargo aircraft
> “only a failed detonator prevented the drone from exploding”
> A bus driver managed to kick the drone causing it to crash
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/08/germany-disarms-explosive-drone-found-at-airport-hunts-possible-second-drone/

>>540882520
Is this the German 9/11 you’re referring to?
Unbelievable story. That bus driver deserves a medal or a golden boot award.
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>>540883354
You show a (((special))) lack of reading comprehension
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>>540884445
SOMEBODY PLEASE
Get this man, a gun.
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>>540874087
>After disappearing for several months, is Kraut/pol/ finally back for good?
so is everyone stopped being a neet or why did the general just die?
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>>540883881
How so? Please explain what you mean when you say “a failed detonator prevented a real German 9-11”.
It’s not obvious what event you’re referring to or if you’re being sincere :)

>>540884532
Maybe this expert on German politics can explain recent events (if he’s allowed to take a break working overtime to shit up the thread) - what a strange thing to post.
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>>540886739
The detonator was not supposed to be defective, but actually was. Make of that what you like. My few cents opinion
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>>540874087
>hack, sabotage and fake citizens' messages
Why do they want to fake citizens' messages? To false flag civilians for posting something they didn't do?
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>>540874087
The AfD will reverse nothing of this criminal acts. Or just some miniscule things. Mark my words.
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>>540874087
Also:
Covid tyranny reigns supreme. Massiv violation of basic human rights. Mass propaganda and mass slender against dissidens. Massive (forced) injection of experimental medical juice.

Nothing happens. People talks the same bullshit like nothing ever happend.
Of course the ruling class goes the next step.
You are cattle and mind slaves.....
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>>540886739
>if he’s allowed to take a break working overtime to shit up the thread
Nigga
I had 5 posts in this entire fucking thread
1/5 replying to you, you cunt.

Secondly, that reply has to do with the character from the movie whose picture was posted. If you have a problem with that, take it with the poster of the picture. Otherwise shut the fuck up.
You probably don't even know what the fucking Adriatic sea is.
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>>540874087
A bit pos polysci:
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- "cyberespionage was never part of 'military hostility' - it's just good housekeeping'
- "cybersabotage is the next step that crosses this line into hostility'.

2/
Countries like Japan, America, Germany only declare 'rules of engagement' when they feel they are 'above it all' or ;too weak'.
Countries with goals/visions don't *consciously* restrain themselves. (loud/proud in 'terrorism').
Remember: you're sabotaging an adversary that you aren't 'declaring war' with: this is terrosism.


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Germany is being awfully 'stiff' about this, most people would do it and not be 'upfront' about it.
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>>540887744
> another thing

remember: thereis a clear line between:
- redteam espionage, blueteam defence
and
- wiping their dns servers, and resettting the passwords to water-treatment plants

it's called "an act or war or terrorism"



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