Is there a single secular argument against it? Why shouldn't individuals with terminal illnesses and shitty lives end their existence in a safe way?
>>540887351This is why mandatory suicides should be implemented for every non-uropean living in the EU.
I believe it should be legal even in cases when one isn't terminally ill.
>>540887351>end their existence>in a safe way
>>540887452they can face the wall or should be buried aliveNo need to waste money on them
>>540887351It opens up doctors to a lot more litigation from grieving relatives who will inevitably try to argue only a seriously depressed patient would ever consider suicide over continued treatment and therefore the deceased lacked the requisite autonomy to make that decision for themselves (as a result of mental illness). Whether or not that's ever actually the case is irrelevant, it just means a lot more headaches for the in-house counsel at hospitals.
>>540887638...Yes?More safe than pulling a Mcnutt
>>540887351>terminal illness No issues there. Especially if the alternative is slow decay or being doped up on pain killers. I would seriously consider it if I got something like Alzheimer’s. >anything else including mental illness or poverty.No, because you would see the state/society using it to devalue human life or harvest organs or use it as an excuse not to solve problems
>>540887351Because it quickly devolves into people being pushed to end their lives. People have already been offered euthanasia instead of help. Assisted suicide should be strictly limited to people who are so disabled they cannot kill themselves.
>>540887351>Is there a single secular argument against it?It shows lack of commitment.If you want to die, stop eating and drinking completely. You'll be dead within a week, if that's what you really want.
>>540887351Switzerland allows assisted suicide for mental illnesses like depression, rather than just terminal illnesses.
>>540887760If u die its by definition horribly unsafe
>>540887351>>540887760https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3PsCQEg9YY
>Hello global citizen! Unfortunately, due to the outrageous waiting times in our uber tax slurper/money laundering (BUT FREE!) healthcare system we aren't able to get you your life saving surgery this month because all the canadian doctors decided to fuck off to the united states due to our retarded policies. you're gonna have to wait until next year to get your surgery >Oops! It would appear that in the meantime of you waiting your surgeon has retired. It looks like you're gonna have to wait another year for your life saving treatment.one year later>Oops! your disease has progressed and it is now inoperable and incurable! You're going to be slowly dying in horrible pain during the following months... Or we could just speed up the process for you!>would you be interested in MAID? Indeed, it would spare you much of the suffering of your incoming inevitable annihilation (that totally isnt our fault btw). By the way if you just check this box here it'll allow us to harvest your organs after you croak in our gas chamber. The Canadian healthcare system is a fucking joke. Their incompetency has led to the premature death of multiple family members of mine. It's all made to milk as much money out of old ailing folks through bullshit bureaucracy. That's what my taxes are for. The healthcare industry is the scum of the earth.
>>540889609Then do something about it :)
>>540887351Suicide is a sin, so like abortion, assisted suicide is just another attack on Christianity.Even ignoring the religious aspect. Societies that don't value life and do everything to preserve it are doomed to fail.
>>540887351>Japan>Unknown and Unclear?
>>540889730how though? even if you join in on the healthcare industry if you start dismantling bullshit lies they just take away your credentials and label you as a nutjob. It's happened to countless doctors who have tried already. You wish it were that simple.
>>540889968They've been letting terminally ill, or irreparably shamed people seppuku for millennia.
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