It is really interesting watching this unfold and how Americans are tackling the problem. I feel like this has the potential to be what destroys America from within because it almost appears as if they are in denial about it, thinking that shuffling some papers around, having some meetings and lowering the boat ramps will fix the issue.Just imagine a couple more years of drought where evaporation goes even faster because of warmer waters and this becoming some pressing political issue and the ensuing mess. There are 7 states and some 40 million people that rely on what is the largest man-made artificial lake in the US for water and electricity and in some places of the desert they are still expanding settlements despite all this.Many of the larger agriculture industries have deep pockets as well ensuring that they even though being the largest consumers will still get to have the deepest straws into the reservoirs because that is how it works. It is all about the money and nothing will change that, the ones experiencing and feeling the cuts will be the little man which of course will also have little measurable effect other than making an already disenfranchised population even more mad. No more watering your lawns and you will have to accept a smart-meter on your toilets.A mass exodus may come about where the more wealthy segments of the population moves to other high-density areas undoubtedly causing pressure on housing prices and infrastructure there as well etc.. in other words more societal unrest for other parts of the country.What if this escalates to catastrophic proportions after the US has gone all in in the middle-east in a highly unpopular war while the government ignores doing anything about such problems at home? It isn't like they will pull out the military from the region in order to put it to use at home or anything either, which will cause any remaining support for the the government to plummet to a new low as well.
>>540907072All of this so they could grow almonds in california.
>>540907280and golf courses in Arizona.
>>540907072>norway flaga shitskin made this thread
>>540907072>>540907470Literally you're in every thread. Different flag every time. I never believed the "jeets and kikes get paid to post on /pol/" meme but its fucking true.
>>540907072do you think the point of a reservoir is to always remain full?
>>540907280>>540907470almonds and golf courses are the politically correct culprits but the real problem is the animal ag industry
>>540907510>>540907701Meds.
>>540907754No, but it is at its lowest level since it was built.
>>540907072El Nino means pissing rain next year in January you will be back here complaining about all the floods
>>540907510Come on anon op wants destruction of White places. He cheers that shit
>>540907806I feel like "data centers" is the most politically correct one.
>>540907072how many bodies have they found now
>>540908011I found a copy of ET on atari.
>>540907072the Mexicans are being punished for stealing the western lands from God's chosen people. soon America will return to its original state.
>>540907892If it does happen.. Weather patterns are rarely predictable and reliable, something the climate evangelists conveniently ignore. In my part of the world we have seen twice the amount of precipitation and the worst summer in half a century. It has pissed down non-stop. Way lower temperatures than average as well. Point being there is a balance to it all.
Cool, the latest newslop for low IQ cattle is out. I'll start believing it's bad when I see jeets bathing there.
>>540907892that wont help there hasnt been investment in trapping that rain water
>>540907921White places? Doesn't these areas have the highest influx of south-Americans? Isn't this process destroying it as we speak?
>>540907072The housing market was finally starting to correct, but if the entire southwest is fucked then millions will migrate out of the area into the rest of the country and housing will skyrocket again.
s'ok, Vegas drilled themselves an even lower pipeline. Long after the Hoover Dam goes silent, the fountains will still be spraying into the neon-lit desert sky. Crises, what Crises?
>>540907072if I lived there I would be going around looking for barrels with old dead gangsters in them.the mob guys in vegas used lake mead to dispose of people for a long time.there are probably thousands of bodies in that lake.people find them all the time when the water is low on the lake.I wouldn't call the cops. there would be no point. everyone who was involved is probably dead by now. I would keep the skull and put it in my office.
>>540907072>John Muir wrote that a dam-lake would be "only a rough imitation of a natural lake for a few of the spring months, an open sepulcher for the others."Man-made reservoirs are a blight on society and the natural landscape, and worse, it's also a welfare racket for the water oligarchs picrel
>>540907510Half of the American flags posting on this board are foreign brown people with VPNs.
>>540908106I think it will happen. I'm in one of the wet regions, and the weather this summer definitely feels different. We've also gotten noticeably more rain this year than the previous 2-3.
>>540908313Not to mention the destruction of habitat and native species and the introduction of new ones for fishing purposes.
>>540908300Vegas is easily the dumbest city on the American continent. And it's not even for a good cause, it only exists to steal money from boomers.
>>540908501The drought in California is made worse by the 2000+ dammed rivers. There aren't very many rivers that flow out to the coastline unimpeded. Picrel is another good source of how the man-made canals/reservoirs have devastated the landscape in the western US for the sake of agricultural purposes.
>>540907072What did they do for water, before Lake Mead was built? They'll just go back to doing that. There will be a period of adjustment. And then, go back to living within their means provided by natural, not artificially constructed, resources.
>>540908451There is so much rain that farmers may have trouble harvesting hay and grain. The media is silent about this particular weather pattern as it does not really fit the whole "Europe is burning, give your money to the politicians" schtick.
>>540908789>They'll just go back to doing that.They can't, there's way more people there now than there were in 1935, and alternate methods would be like trying to build a raft to save yourself from drowning.
>>540908789there was no 'before'Nevada had 100,000 residents when Lake Mead was constructed. Its now got 3.3 million.>>540908895indeed.
>>540908895They they'll move to some place else.When things change, you change the way you do things. Or you won't survive. Its not rocket science.
>>540907890>its lowest level since it was built.This is a talking point the Bureau of Reclamation and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers use. Both agencies compete fiercely for multi-billion-dollar congressional budgets to build dams. If they have people talking about water levels of dammed lakes, it's for a reason.
>>540909097>Huge migrations from collapses in water supply are no big deal
>>540909033America is a big place. They can move to any of the other 49 states. This is another reason we must keep our immigration borders closed. Americans will be needing all America's amenities soon. We don't have enough for oursiders. That goes double for illegals.
>>540909220it's a jew profiting from creating this problem
>>540907072Congratulations, you have officially put more thought and consideration into this issue than 99.999999999% of people in the United States, let alone within the immediate confines of the area affected by Lake Mead. Just wait until the Ogalala aquifer(the one that provides water for the Midwest) dries up, scientists have been sounding the alarm on that for 20yrs. Keep me posted.
>>540909220Migrations? From state to state? As long as they are Americans, so what? Life takes unexpected twists sometimes. You have to take it as it comes. What is the alternative? Crying and sperging out about it? What does that solve?
>>540908051Now go back for the other several truckloads
>>540908197it's called Colorado watershed
>>540909271Lol I wish.
>>540908789>New residential and commercial developments are prohibited from installing lawns>Las Vegas recycles virtually all of its indoor water. About 99% of the water used down indoor drains (from sinks, showers, and toilets) in the Las Vegas Valley is captured, highly treated, and returned to Lake Mead They already are re-using peepee and poopoo water and banned new grass installation. They're going to have to install water-rationing timers on all faucets at this rate.
>>540907072If it gets low enough to threaten the dam the federal government finally gets to step in and rip commiefornias water rights up like should be done right now.
>>540909438No, you are. Close the tab, FUD poster.
>>540908789>Just reverse the Colorado River again, it’ll be fine….
>>540907072>Lake Mead at its lowest level since it was builtBut the Dow is over 50.000!
>>540908300One thing I've noticed is how it is always repeated how "Nevada is the most efficient state in conserving and recycling its water". Almost seems forced as if they have a guilty conscience.
>>540907701he's also up till like 5AM his time just whining about America all night he is pretty pathetic. Make a critique thread right now about the "tap the sign" meme and you will have him in there for hours
>>540909097As things change, we change with it.
>>540909389yeah, you can shift all those Dust Bowl hicks Back East. Where they came from.
>>540909578I think you have me confused with someone else, but it is funny that some other fellow Norwegian lives rent free in your minuscule cranium.
>>540909474Oh okay. Well, how much am I getting paid? Hopefully its a lot.
>>540909738kys NEET kike
>>540909796u mad bro?
>>540909496Idk about reversed. But it should be completely undammed.You can wrestle with nature for a while if you want, but you'll never beat it. Nature always prevails over the designs of man.
>>540909820what part of kys NEET kike don't you understand?
>>540908754>the sake of agricultural purposes.It's called food, it comes in useful occasionally for 8 billion people.
Based thread.I dug some holes and they filled with water.t. doing my part
>>540909933>it should be completely undammIt would nice to see the dams in California removed. The return of Tulare Lake would be a sight to behold; it historically was the largest lake west of the Mississippi picrel.
>>540910071Yes, Chinese would starve without all them exported almonds.Or maybe they'd just eat some rice instead.
>>540907072>lake mead>since it was built
>>540909933Gotta wonder what constructions like Three Gorges does to the overall balance of nature. Retaining that much water that otherwise would have moved about in a natural way are sure to have some consequences we don't fully understand.
THIS JUST INWATER EVAPORATES IN THE SUMMER HEAT
>>540910215Burgers used to Build Shit, believe it or not.
>>540910184The Saudis import a lot of the Alfalfa from my understanding. One artificially propped up desert consumes what another one produces.
>>540907072It's really interesting how clueless foreignfags think they are experts on things happening in America just based on the retarded shit they see online and in the MSM.
>>540910071A handful of billionaires growing almonds and alfalfa for the Chinese isn't sustainable agriculture, especially when the tax payers are subsidizing the Central California water oligarchs, like the Resnicks, $600 million a year.
>>540907072Can't they just spray aluminium particles into the atmosphere and then dump a bunch of plastic balls into the water to stop evaporation? Easy fix my dude
>>540908197The lake is there because that's where all the rain naturally ends up.
>>540910422Because, you are fascinating.Like watching a toddler perform cartwheels on a cliff edge. And you don't need to be no expert to point out, 'uh, this may not end well'.
>>540907072>build giant dam in the desert>miscalculate discharge to account for evaporation>fill the country with 100 million brown eaters>???
>>540910488Growing water-intensive nut tree crops in the Central Valley—a single almond can require up to 1.1 US gallons (4.2 L) of water[16]—has drawn criticism during California's ongoing drought. According to Forbes magazine, the Wonderful Company uses "at least 120 billion gallons [450 million m3] a year, two-thirds on nuts, enough to supply San Francisco's 852,000 residents for a decade".[17]
>>540909389>From state to state? As long as they are Americans, so what? Because we don't want you fucking transplant scumbags coming here and then just bitching and complaining and trying to turn it into the exact same shithole you just crawled out of.If it was up to me, I would use ICE to round up and deport all of the yankees and california transplants from the based red states they've moved into for the last few decades.
>>540910409Sometimes, its worth it to an enemy nation to pay for things like alfalfa from its enemy, because it keeps their enemy in a state of self sabotage. In this case, environmental degradation.
>>540910788I don't think the desert people understand ecology
>>540907470Golf courses are a red herring.For some reason they grow pecans in the desert.
>>5409108724x water needed in western soils to flush them, it's bad soil, good thing they told everyone to move there. This just in, any arid soil sucks, requires tons of flushing
>>540910597There's no way of truly knowing their water usage, as California doesn't require metering of well-pumps. When they water almonds fields, they flood them and most of that water evaporates in the valley heat.
>>540910549And yet it somehow always does end well for us and we are still the richest, most powerful, most important nation in human history. While you beta wallflower cuck countries shaking your heads and tut-tutting in the corner have shittier lives than our poorfag niggers in Mississippi. Heat kills more Europeans than guns kill Americans. American Exceptionalism is a real thing and why Americans are your Gods.
>>540907072deport 100 million illegals and cancel 50 million student/work visasproblem solved
>>540911068Yeah will you be saying that when california collapses into the sea
>>540907072"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."That sentence is the creed of every American.
>>540910597Please refrain from discussing the almond conspiracy. You're making rich California farm tycoons very nervous. The truth is that nobody knows where all the water is going and nobody wants to know.
>>540911105>Yeah will you be saying that when california collapses into the seaYup sure, any day now....
>>540907072If Lake Mead runs out of water, we already know how the crisis will unfold:1. Hoover Dam's electricity output declines sharply. This turns off Las Vegas and Phoenix as power prices rise to California levels. Because Californians are already getting ripped off, there's not much of a change on the CA side of the border. Nevada and Arizona's economies stop working as brownouts then controlled blackouts occur. New gas power is brought online but prices would be so high, most people won't be able to afford the automatic climate control most homes in the area are now equipped with.2. Water rations are cut. Farmers last. Meaning, residential water rates rise enormously. Californians already experienced this, and CA already has plans in place to deal with it. NV and AZ don't. Exurban tract developments, which are not on public water, run out first. These people go dry and get mad and have to buy water through trucks. Just like Mexico. Then smaller towns run out, especially ones near large farms or datacenters. These people then go dry and have to buy water through trucks. Just like Mexico. Large dense cities in the region - basically just downtown Las Vegas / Fremont Street to UNLV and downtown Phoenix - do not go dry but rates triple. People are forced to cut back on washing, then home laundry. Water delivery business explodes.3. Finally, the farmers go under. Due to how Federal water allocations work, Farmers always get water. If the water runs out, their fields go dry and the radioactive dust from the bomb testing gets up into the air causing radioactive dust clouds. Another dust bowl happens.When that occurs, rural Nevadans and Arizonans pack up and move to California. California is the only state prepared for this because of it's hippies enforcing regulated water and power usage. The gay flex alerts, if enough happen, trigger emergency power plant construction if that happen frequently enough.
>>540911201If we all keep hoping it will eventually happen
>>540907072they don't call them nigger cattle for nothing.
I've always found watering these golf courses in the middle of the desert to be egregious, but you just know politicians play on them
Make sure you do your part, and sabotage coasties fleeing their artificial shitholes. Maybe rape and kill a few, too!
>>540911259Hey they drained a giant natural wetland and that has sort of okay soil
>>540907072>Lake Mead at its lowest level since it was builtWho cares? Just strip mine it and leave an inhospitable wasteland.
>>540911201>American level reasoningYou understand that the window to fix something is not the same as the window of the consequences, right? If you are headed for a cliff with your car, you might have 1-2 seconds to slam on the breaks, even *IF* the plunge to the bottom would take 15 seconds.
>>540911166The denial is only present outside of California. Republicans hate California's water laws because, even though they inflate water costs, they keep the entire system functional. It's how Newsom can afford to blow the big dams in Eurkea and how the plans to dismantle Hetch Hetchy can progress. Trump sold lies to cheap people outside in Las Vegas and Phoniex, telling them the water will always be plentiful and cheap. And for elderly boomers this is probably true, any boomer old enough to own a farm will always get water. Most boomers will pass on or already have before the big water cuts happen, and will never experience a dry tap. Dry taps already occur sporadically every summer, and California already has extensive plans to deal with it. The "deal with it" is basically forcing trailer parks and tract developments to organize into formal townships so they can get paid water hookups, most don't want to do it because of the taxes, so they will just go dry and pay a private company to deliver water. Just like Mexico.None of this is a new problem. People just wanted to ignore it. And when we had competent Presidents, we could afford to do so. This ended with Las Vegas's meteoric growth in the 90s and 2000s, which is now ending. Even Reno has a water plan, because they have to share Lake Tahoe with Sacramento. Las Vegas got their water from the Feds by right, and now the water is going away. No amount of tiktok posts or AI pics can change things when taps go dry.
>>540911343we did that with the grand canyon, where do you think the uranium for little boy and fat man came from? indians are still mad about it
>>540909389remember how maybe 100k WFH techfags fucked up real estate markets across the county? multiply that by like 300.
>>540909389mate if we get a bunch of 80 IQ beaners from california it's war, I hate california
>>540907072Get those metal detectors out!Find gold jewelry around those docks and swim beaches that are now high and dry.
>>540911448I don't believe you're American. Your argument is well structured and provides referenced evidence. I have never seen an American do either. Who wrote this for you?
>>540910844These are all mid-century American ideas, all this shit in the desert, and they grew out of the hubris to think that all of nature could be conquered by science.
>>540907806don't need almonds or golf coursesdo need animal ag to eat and live
>>540907072What? The California almond mafia kikes needed it to make not milk for commie fags and browns.
>>540908060I support a return to the traditional Southern Democrat
>>540911448>The "deal with it" is basically forcing trailer parks and tract developments to organize into formal townships so they can get paid water hookups, most don't want to do it because of the taxes, so they will just go dry and pay a private company to deliver water. Just like Mexico.Out of sight, out of mind picrel. People outside of water shortage areas don't see coverage of this problem.
>>540911623California has "water credits" and for some reason if you're a monopoly you can "buy" water rights in an area and then pump it out of another. So they were going to buy water in non-arid northern california and say that's the same as having water in the desert, and then pump even more water out of the ground
>>540911623I live in California and I pay a California water bill. On the bill, the bottom half, is a big wall of text of regulatory information explaining to me why my bill is $400. That information basically says that:The Federally managed water California obtains for free from the Colorado River, is running out. California Water Service and the California Public Utilities Commission cannot guarantee Californians will receive sufficient water under the Federal Water Compact. Therefore, CWS has to build more water storage and charge higher rates. CWS also has to build desalination and sewage water reclamation plants (like EBMUD) to provide for residential water buyers. Residential water buying is split up into different priorities, assigned by urban density determined by zip code. It has been decided that high density condos, apartments, and urban zones will always be given water. Single family homes are lower: split into individual towns, neighborhoods, tract developments and census-designated places. This creates a practical list of water priority from the eastern entrances to final delivery.Where this matters: Out in the desert and the Central Valley where trailer parks and subdivisions -CDPs- get cut off the soonest as they buy water from CWS from pipelines not managed by CWS. This is done to save home owners in those areas taxes as they don't have formal water hookups. Foster City, Discovery Bay, Laguna Estates and California Forever are like this too. All folded and eventually bought into the water system with new taxes. Otherwise, the state lets them run dry.
>>540910932I'd be interested to learn who the biggest American almond buyers were.My guess is that its someone hostile to America, and they only do it to keep America in self sabotage mode, and wasting its own natural resources.And who the parent corporation was, doing the almond growing, on American soil?
>>540912399>I'd be interested to learn who the biggest American almond buyers were.Not Americans picrel
>>540911212>If the water runs out, their fields go dry and the radioactive dust from the bomb testing gets up into the air causing radioactive dust clouds.What the hell, how bad would it be?
>>540912340They do run dry. Every summer a handful of towns across the CV and desert always do. When this happens the state notifies them that they cannot cut off the water from the adjacent farmers who are always guaranteed free unpaid water under the Federal Water Compact. The state then provides them with a list of resources to get water, usually a voucher for free water bottles at Costco. If their community has a water tank, they can then pay their landlord or Home Owners Association a fee to pay a water truck to fill it with paid water. Towns without water for more than 6 months are considered unfit for human habitation and redtagged. The state hasn't had to do many of these but all the ghost towns you've heard about are these, eventually they all ran out of water and people walked away rather than pay for delivery.www.latimes.com/environment/story/2021-10-30/california-water-crisis-state-intervenes-to-help-townhttps://www.ppic.org/blog/how-are-californias-cities-managing-the-drought/calmatters.org/environment/2022/12/california-drought-shortages/President Trump opposes the water conservation and ordered the levees opened, dumping about 10% of our water supply into the Bay. Farmers were pissed since it hasn't been refilled, but who cares. Farmers get their water for free until the water runs out. The state government has plans to deal with this for water buyers, but not farmers, and it's expected most will just be bankrupt when the water stops coming.>>540912143California has a plan. It's flawed but there is at least a plan. It's exactly this plan how EBMUD keeps getting money despite the low quality drinking water it creates from nigger shit. EBMUD is actually the permanent solution, unfortunately. This works with the state's larger plan to ban industrial dumping in the Bay.
>>540907072Listen my Norwegian friend, you're being way to intelligent about this. Even the way you have rationally, logically explained your assessment is just too much for most Americans. We don't even understand what you're saying. Holy shit, man, what are you even saying? America is number one, dude. You Scandi's need to understand that. Nothing will ever destroy us. Water is water. It's everywhere. We can buy it at the supermarket. You and your articulation can't change that.
>>540907072>It is really interesting watching this unfold and how Americans are tackling the problem. I feel like this has the potential to be what destroys America from within because it almost appears as if they are in denial about it, thinking that shuffling some papers around, having some meetings and lowering the boat ramps will fix the issue.The californians and nevadans in charge of it are mostly mexican, no actual american is in denial it's just that they've all been blocked from doing anything about it.
>>540908313>>540908436I mean what's the difference with a bunch of rocks or a landslide falling into a valley choke point and creating a lake? That's how a lot of natural lakes are made.
I don't know man. Bring back Tulare lake.
>>540912230Is this an Obama era idea? Because this sounds just like Obama's ( the McKinsey Group's ) plan for pollution.Cap and Trade Pollution Credits.
>>540907470golf courses use grey water. the issue is simply the population and development to support it. The desert isn't meant to have tens of millions of people living in it.
>>540912495Not that bad. Bad enough to have a Purple Air day but not bad enough to get inside your house and kill you.www.airnow.gov/state/?name=californiaCalifornia has had Purple Air days since California began active air quality monitoring in the 1960s, leading to the California Air Resources Board and automobile smog rules. This is the California EV mandate. Because of this California doesn't have Purple Air. If other states get Purple Air, they can respond by handing out masks like California used to. If the air gets really bad, airports will be closed and most cars won't work without specialized filters the sort of which are already used across India, South Africa and other third world countries that have Purple Air.ou put your mask on and take the electric car to work. If you can't afford the electricity or if the electricity is shut off because there's not enough water going through Hoover Dam, then you take the electric bus. If you live in Las Vegas or Phoenix that didn't buy electric buses like California mandated their cities to, you carpool with someone who does or you don't go to work on those days. California is liberal enough to forcibly close hospitals and schools on Purple Air days, although based and redpilled states don't do that. So it's not my problem.
>>540912725Its appropriate Mexicans live in a dry lake bed in California. It's their natural habitat
>>540912805Didn't mexicans settle on a literal swamp.
>>540912471Figures. Now, if everyday people can figure out what is going on here, why can't someone whose works in National Security?
>>540908244Yeah, but the American Southwest plays a special role in American conservative politics, and they sort of idolize the Southwest. I dont know why, its by far the worst area of the country across the board: demographical, politically, and in terms of geography, climate, arcitecture, and urban planning. Nevertheless, MIGApedos type and Christian Zionists love the American southwest. All over the Southwest you find communities with "biblical" names like Zion this, Zion that, Mt Zion, Calvary, Promised Land, etc., etc. For some reason, conservatives love the third world shithole tier climate in the Southwest. The lifeless, barren landscape and the scorching 105F days all summer. Its associated with cowboys and the wild west, and empty rural land. I think it reminds the MIGApedos and NAFOtroons of Israel and the "Holy Land" and the Jews, and thats why theyre so obsessed with it. There nothing American conservatives love more than Jews and black college athletes.
>>540912896They evolved from swamp ogres to dusty mestizos
>>540912516>California has a plan.Executing plans is California's weakness, especially since they're becoming more broke with their pension program collapsing municipal services. Nearly 50 to 64 cents of every dollar going to public worker's salaries is going to that pension to close the every growing gap.
>>540912954Prior to 1990, the California Republican Party was very influential in the national RNC due to all the votes it had. Both Presidents Nixon and Reagan heavily influenced the party's direction. So did Earl Warren. This slowly reduced as the party adopted more and more anti-immigration rhetoric which most California Republicans oppose, and the stronger the party has come out against immigration the less Californians want to be Republicans.The GOP had a good run helping form the national GOP before the Civil War when the CA GOP brought California in as a single state. This gave them a working coalition that held for 160 years until 2010.
>>540908300we would have been better off just leaving the beavers alone
>>540913097The pensions don't matter. Calpers could die today and the water would still flow. A lot of boomers would be mad, but it won't interrupt paid services like water. Nevermind how the other side of this equation, electricity generation, is not covered by Calpers. California's electrical system is split between two private for-profit corporations, PG&E and Socal Edison. Hoover Dam's power is priced far below both and provided to Nevada and Arizona at a very low cost. California can take the hit from Hoover Dam dropping out because of the Flex Alert system, since CA is not allowed to request or buy more power than their allotment.
>>540912471>India - $915.13 Million>China - $75.95 MillionWhat a shitty graph.
>>540913202>California republicans reject immigration restrictions Are you Chinese
>>540911374You do understand that there massive ice sheets covering most of the planet 15,000 years ago and they melted because the planet warmed up well before humans were contributing to muh greenhouse effect.Leftist just hate Western capitalist prosperity and assume that it is inherently bad and that we must face some kind of collective punishment for being successful.
>>540908754False, you need more dams.
>>540907072Nice to know someone halfway across the world cares more about this than your average american. I've spoke to dozens of people in Arizona about this and they have no idea it's happening and have no cares about what would happen if it keeps going.To be fair, I've pulled out several tons of garbage out of our rivers, forests, and deserts with my own hands. Americans don't deserve the beautiful country they reside in. A mind broken people completely out of tune with the reality that this giant fucking rock's general health is the only thihg keeping us around.
>>540913445California is a perfect example of industrial over extension. Needed that gooooold
>>540910162The lake was there once every few years .It had no value just like lake Eyre in Australia just a waste of gigalitres of water left to evaporate.
>>540913387>The pensions don't matter.It directly affects how infrastructure is built in California. If a department is trying to cover the gap made by CalPERS, that means less hours of operation or less staff. That can add months if not years to infrastructure projects when you're trying to get plans approved by the State for construction. Overtime, this means nothing will be finished because the costs will be outrageous, like the high speed rail.
>>540907072shouldn't have built so many houses if the water is such an issue
>>540910385This was back when the country was white and run by non-Jews.
>>540913662>The lake was there once every few yearsThat's not true picrel
>>540907072>live in a great lakes state, unlimited fresh water and abundant nuclear powerI literally don't not give a shit what happens to californians or the southwest for that matter. that's their choice to be desert living spics.
>>540912399>self-sabotageI'm thinking this applies to some of these data centers. They always want to build these in national parks or farmland that can be rewilded. They never want to build them in urban ghettos that are basically abandoned already.
>>540913679It doesn't matter for water buyers because CWS can and does raise rates. Read your water bill where they explain how they're ripping you off.
>>540907072Rename it to Lake sneed
>>540907072This better not fucking happen. If this lake dries up, we'll have to nuke india. That would be a disaster for the world. I hate to say it but scientists have got to tackle this problem before push comes to shove.
>>540913965Dah dah dah dah! Captain white man is here to plumb for ranjeet
>>540907072Why isn’t cloud seeding used to cause rainfall and fill the reservoirs?
>>540913641>Americans don't deserve the beautiful country they reside insince 1970 america has only had these issues* infanticide* divorce rapeand been consequently unable to talk about these issues* the quango central bank printing fiat* deindustrialization* replacement migrationit is normal for one problem to prevent work on another problem
>>540913827It was you fucking dishonest piece of shit .Every single report of its existence calls it ephemeral.Do you know what that means you retard??Obviously not.People like you are an embarrassment.
>>540914031>Ah well you see it only fills up during wet years
>>540914082Sounds like propaganda to justify draining it
>>540907072Fires are becoming a problem every year too, but of course the Jew-controlled is saying that "Americans don't want to work" so we need to import 6 million beaners everywhere to explode the population all the time.
>>540914228the lake bed provided fertile soil.for almonds.
>>540914228So who drained it in all the times it was reported as dry in late 1700s and early 1800s?When only Indians lived there.Both Spanish and American sources state it was dry multiple times.You should actually put the time in to learn your country rather than being a daft mong.
>>540914417Americans don't want to buy our bags and we sure as hell can't let our property values drop. What a bunch of niggers
>>540914500You know those Spanish. They said it was an inland sea. What sources say it was dry?
>>540913930>It doesn't matter for water buyers because CWS can and does raise ratesWhat happens when the water runs out picrel? The Sierra Nevada snowpack dwindling over the past century isn't going to get better while the rivers are dammed. The state will experience a continued desertfication until the natural waterways are restored.
>>540910071We have less than 350 million though
>>540914633Man they're screwed
>>540911212>Just like MexicoThe places full of Mexicans will become Mexico
>>540914888I hope somebody writes a book in the future about how miraculously people recreate the environment they came from with enough numbers
>>540914500>dry in late 1700s and early 1800s?sauce?its generally stated as being always there until local irrigation began around 1850, as a direct consequence of which, it first disappeared in 1898. No dog in the fight either, but it does appear 2me its 'ephemerality' is a relatively recent man made phenomenon.
>>540914500>>540914082If you knew anything about California history you'd know Stockton was once called Tuleburg because you could ride a ferry from Bakersfield to Tuleburg through the Tulare Lake and rivers. This was documented by Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain). The lake was drained by the cotton empire of J.G. Boswell Company in the 19th century picrel
>>540915016>You can't have California you'll just bring cotton picking slaves here>Destroys the ecology for cotton picking slavesWow
To me, the infrastructure reads more of a "free identification card for voting purposes" kind of democracy. Lol lmao
>>540915000>in the 1920s, James Griffin Boswell and his nephew, J.G. Boswell II, acquired vast tracts of the lake basin in Kings County, California, and deployed aggressive water-management tactics to permanently dry out the land for agriculture.>The Boswells built a complex web of private canals, ditches, and heavy pumps that literally made local rivers run backward, diverting vital inflows away from the basin>The company used its immense political leverage to push the federal government to construct the Pine Flat Dam on the Kings River, cutting off the lake's primary water source.>By mid-century, the final remnants of the permanent lake were eradicated, leaving behind a 160,000-acre, highly lucrative corporate fiefdom primarily dedicated to pima cotton.picrel
>>540915926Go big or go home
>>540916119>Go big or go home>J.G. Boswell Company is widely recognized as the largest cotton-producing operation in the United States. It controls a massive agricultural empire spanning roughly 150,000 to 206,000 acres centered around Corcoran in California's San Joaquin ValleyThere ain't nobody bigger in the US
>>540907072We built 5 nuclear water desalination plants for Israel and we have none, btw.
>>540907280Pistachios too, and we did that to hurt Iran which used to be the largest pistachio producer.
>>540908754>Picrel is another good source of how the man-made canals/reservoirs have devastated the landscape in the western US for the sake of agricultural purposes.Those agricultural purposes are providing the countries' entire supply of winter vegetables.
>>540909389>What is the alternative?We can build water desalination plants like we did for Israel
>>540908754>droughts are made worse by storing water in reservoirsI guess that's a roundabout way of saying "droughts are made worse by there being humans to observe them".
>>540907806Alfalfa farms are huge users of Colorado River water.
>>540909335Step 1: return to grassland and cattle.Step 2: What problem?
>>540916401Frozen veggies. Canned veggies. Your life is a lie, "fresh" produce tard.
why do all these make mead imminent disaster people always ignore it filling back up in 2023 after the 2022 low level.
>>540916665you need vegetables to freeze and can too
>>540916401>the countries' entire supply of winter vegetables.Which is why US taxpayers probably need to be invested about why $600 million in Federal subsidies annually go to a handful of billionaires in this area of California. Mostly growing pistachos, almonds and cotton that are exported to India and China, all while permanently devastating the landscape they're on picrel.
>>540916696Because that fill up was very lucky.Nobody lived in this part of the country until we Americans settled it for a reason.
>>540907072Vegasfag here. My neighbor sprinkler system suck and always gets breaks in the lines. So much water gets wasted. I report him like twice a month.
>>540916665You mean you can freeze overproduction instead of letting it go to waste? Wow, we live in a society.
>>540916788based
>>540916788You're a good man.
>>540908720It's also for laundering Mormon drug money and giving niggers and spics make-work casino jobs
>>540916696even the vanished Lake Tulare resurfaced in 2023. It was a bit of an extreme flood year one-off.
>>540916811I also haven’t seen him in over a month. His wife never leaves the house. Very strange.
>>5409080113 last I checked.I particularly like the one that was stuffed into a 55 gallon steel drum and dated to the 50s.
>>540916477The drought is mostly caused by the dams and reservoirs across California. When they dam a river, it kills all creeks and smaller riparian systems, and speeds up the desertfication of the land and the destruction of the aquifers.See>>540914633This is what happens when the aquifers are not replenished due to unsustainable water usage of the ag industry.
>>540907806the real problem is jews
>>540916759>pistachoswe started subsidizing growing pistachios in order to put iranian farmers out of businessthe pistachio companies are owned by jews
>>540908436>with VPNsHalf the US is already foreign brown people. VPNs arent neccessary.
>>540907072I only have so many batteries to toss. I feel like not everyone is doing their fair share.
>>540909460Vegas native here.They claim its 97% of the water pulled out is returned after treatment.They remove biological waste but all that medication like prozac and birth control that gets piased out is still in the water. The colorado river is poison. It now stops about 60 miles short of the gulf of baja because its sucked dry for farms.There is no coming back. An occasional above average rainy season isnt enough. Most of the colorado river is from snowpack.I rember when the lake was full about 25 years ago. It will never be there again.
>>540917239>in order to put iranian farmers out of businessFunny how Israel is one of the largest consumers of Iranian pistachios. While we get the disgusting shriveled Californian version making more US subsidized funds to send towards Israel.
Wo got lots of water up here Ameribros. Just come and take it.
>>540916696Now do lake Powell
>>540908313One of the biggest problems is that all the sediment remains at the tail end of the reservoir, causing more erosion than deposition downstream and allowing the sea to eat the deltas
>>540917569Lake Mead is supplied by Lake Powell.Theyre doing their best to balance the lakes for electricity production.They've been caught lying in the past with Lake Mead's level artificially listed as 5 feet higher than it is because "of water allocated from Lake Powell that has not yet been released" but they dont mark Lake Powell as 5 feet lower.Theyre gambling on the 3 decade drought finally ending and refilling the Lake before panic levels.
>>540911194almonds activated
>>540916742>but you have to have them to...Yes, and we're wasting the best land for growing such crops on fucking subdivisions.
>>540908822It's weather variance it doesn't have to be a pattern if the weather becomes so unpredictable that swathes of food can be destroyed or hamstrung before we can harvest it. The worse the variance gets the more prone shortages can be and prices go up.
>>540907072There's a b52 bomber in there
Two more weeks until the USA falls. Thanks for the update, Europoor.
>>540907280>>540907470>>540907806Don't forget the data centers.
>>540907510Jesus Christ, Europe went extinct. This is what no future looks like. In the US everyone is patriotic and there's a US flag in every brown person's yard. But these people praying are not assimilated at all, and you cannot fight this without violent killings or ICE-tier mass deportations that target non-patriotic legal migrants, neither of which is happening even almost in Europe.
The Colorado River was over allocated when the stayes were all allocated water rights and on top of that they are in the middle of a 1200 year drought amd on top of that the climate is changing making that particular area hotter and drier.Civilization has collapsed in this region before it will be cool if it dies again.
>>540918531It’s a b29. Not b52https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Lake_Mead_Boeing_B-29_crash
>>540907072We need to get our heads out of our asses and build nuclear power and desalination plants to keep the monster we created alive. All of the demands that drained the lake come from industralism but industrialism has the solution also. Ironically it's progressive states that stand in the way of necessary progress.
>>540907510Is that Cherno
>>540910932This is outrageously wasteful, technology from circa 1000BC. Seriously, all you need are some soaker tubes around each tree to reduce water usage by 99.99%
>>540917569>I rember when the lake was full about 25 years ago. It will never be there againVery similar thoughts about California here. Moved out a decade ago to a state that doesn't have water restrictions. It's still new to me to see rivers flowing naturally, and not the concrete-lined canals that we called "rivers"
>>540918902>In 2001, a private dive team found the wreck of the B-29 in the Overton Arm of Lake Mead at around 280 feet. >Due to changing water levels in Lake Mead, it is currently around 100 feet deep [2021 level]be back on dry land soon enough.
>>540919076When it's (water) paid for by the US tax payers, what incentive is there to conserve?
>>540907280For a company owned by guess (((who))).
>>540919267Gotta flush the salts
>>540917709>sediment remains at the tail end of the reservoirYes, alluvial fans are no longer a part of the ecological system. The fertile San Joaquin Valley was created by these deposits from the river ways. The use of synthetic fertilizers is eroding the top soil of the valley because the land no longer has sediment naturally deposited.
>>540907072>Lake Mead>filled with waterYou had 1 job...
>>540912143Five hours in Paint
>>540916330IDF eats Iranian nuts because they are better.
>>540919620kek well done, anon
>>540910932
I grew up in the Colorado rockies and it was so badass as a kid. But relevant to this is it was so much wetter. Lakes and springs everywhere. Tons of rain. Fog every morning. Now wildfires. Something big has changed and it's not just the temp.I swam in lakes that are now dry fields
>>540909516i just tried to debunk that claim and came away with you and me being BTFOnevada is indeed the penny pincher of fresh water
>>540916759Is California sinking?
>>540907072It'll be almost full by December.>t.sceenrealforcapchat
>>540907280The Southwest should’ve been desalinating water decades ago.
