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>>540927229
>Dead Brown people: Almost None
They did die
Just in some Africa unga bunga tribes that happened to be crowded
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>killing brown people that are killing the jews is bad
Yes
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>>540927229
In order to understand a modern national socialist, you have to realize that for them it is not an ideology, but a legitimate religious belief with all its mythos, rituals, sacred texts and holy symbolism. When you stop perceiving them as ideologically-inclined people, but rather religious fanatics instead, it all starts to make sense. And as a religion, they do not see any necessity for it to be based on anything verifiable or falsifiable, one just needs to have faith in the doctrine and other attributes "to be saved". Hitler to them is the Prophet figure, which nearly every religion has. They regard him as some divine being that is the source of sacred knowledge, which is why they can never admit he did something wrong, even when it is obvious. "His spirit will rise again" is also a typical allude to a "resurrection-like" prophesized event, which they eagerly await. Swastika is their sacred symbol akin to those almost every religion has, which are supposed to make it easier for the adepts of the cult to connect to the divine through tangible imagery. Mein Kampf to them is a holy scripture, written directly by their Prophet figure and containing main guidelines and dogmas for them to follow. They even have a term for outsiders, like any cult out there, which is designed to promote isolation of the cultists and build up resistance against outside criticism. Like Muslims would call non-believers Kefirs and thus automatically discard any of their points, national socialists would call you Jewish, Bolshevik etc. to shut down any discussion. The more you dig into modern Nazism, the more you realize its adepts treat is as a religion, not a secular ideology. They just need something to fill the spiritual void inside themselves and give their lives some sort of direction.
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>>540927229
Shit hasbara
DEATH TO ISRAEL
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>>540927537
I really wonder if what you say is correct or not. Obviously what you say is a caricature of a very dysfunctional and therefore ineffectual member of the right wing. And if anyone really believes in the right wing, then being this person or aligning with these ridiculous precepts is a recipe for sidling oneself into laughable irrelevancy.

However I do think there is a strain of far-right thought that can avoid the ridiculousness that is outlined here. There were folks like Madison Grant in the pre-WW2 era that had what was then a mainstream view on “race science” (Blacks dumb, Chinese unassimilable aliens, Slavs hard/impossible to assimilate, Jews parasitic and antithetical) without any religious overtones.

I’m not saying I agree with Madison Grant , or anyone else , but I think it’s not true that your caricature is a way to criticize the entire far-right of today
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>>540927537
To understand the modern "national socialist," one must be aware that jews larp as literally anything. Scamming retards cannot adhere to anything that isn't constructed faggotry.
No, Mr. Totally Russian anon, If you would please stop larping...
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>>540927537
tldr?
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>>540927229
yuropoors aren't white.
>dead browns: almost none
tons of polaks, romainians and yugos died
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>>540927537
Oh wow, "everything is a religion", huh? A very profound and novel take, Aвaтap.
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>>540928193
Of course, it is a gross generalization of an "average modern national socialist", not a vivid description of every single one of them. Why I do generalize them, however, is mainly because the adepts of the ideology are clinging to it despite it being no longer relevant in real life. I can see why it could have made sense for someone in 1933, but in 2026 it is almost completely redundant. It was designed for a specific time and for a specific place, precisely to unify Germans and convince them to accept a dictatorship, which promised to pull them out of the political, economic and ideological crisis they were going through. Much of Hitler's ideas were not universal but German-specific and relied heavily on the USSR allegedly being an existential threat to Europe. He even went as far as changing many of his fundamental principles during the war based on the political circumstances, meaning he was not even very consistent in what he was thinking. Some American or Slav today has little to no reason to subscribe to them and yet many do. Not because they actually believe in them, but rather because they have been disappointed in mainstream religions and ideologies and are searching for something to fill the spiritual void. And this is what leads to this bizarre situation where for an average National Socialist Hitler's figure becomes much more important than his ideas, with them ready to twist the latter just to clear his name. Many if not most of them went the Sevitri Devi way and turned National Socialism into plain Hitlerism, which is effectively just a religious cult with all of its religious attributes. And it is somewhat understandable, because if it did not work as a political ideology, they sort of could make it work as a religious movement, since it does not require tangible results, which they cannot deliver.
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>>540928812
The war against Hitler is the founding myth of the Western post-war system and taking Hitler's side is its total rejection. Therefore any enemy of the West from Bin Laden to Putin is labeled to be "a Hitler". Hitler is still relevant because he is constantly talked about by his enemies, it's puzzling that you feign ignorance of this. From a German nationalist perspective, Hitler is just one of many that fought in our cause. National-socialism was not made for export and does not revolve around foreigners. Our European enemies will discover this when we confront them once again.
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>>540927229
>Dead brown people: Almost zero
The Jew lies as naturally as he breathes.
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>>540928812
>the USSR allegedly being an existential threat to Europe
>allegedly
I fucking hate russians so much
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>>540927537
>>540928812
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>>540930330
>American map
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>>540927229
Millions dead browns cost spare change.
Trillion dollars of wealth extracted from society to fuel pointless war on terror is young generations means of life stolen. Houses, cars, food, all denied by government sucking off available money to their dem programs.
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>>540930381
moron
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>>540928193
No serious attempt at a national socialist movement in the modern day will gain any power by looking down upon East Asians. They are literally the only real bastion of 'national socialism' in the modern day.
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>>540930655
>In another part of the leaked conversation, Sikorski was reported to have said: "The Polish-American alliance is worthless. It is even harmful because it creates a false sense of security for Poland."[69] In the fragment of the record Sikorski said: "We're going to antagonize Germany and Russia, and they will think that everything is ok because we have given a blowjob to the Americans. Losers. Total losers."
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Most of the people who died in the Golem Wars didn't die because an American bomb fell on them, they died because the Americans destroyed the social systems of each country. The Neocons implemented shock therapy in Iraq which destroyed their welfare state. Obama and Clinton bombed Libya into becoming a fragmented failed state. Palestine basic water and energy resources are regularly bombed.

It's the same playbook that the Seven Jewish Bankers used in post-Soviet Russia to destroy the life of he average Russian citizen. Same that they have been doing gradually in America. They enjoy stealing wealth from goyim and watching them suffer.
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>>540930655
>Polish
Stopped reading.
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>>540927229
The outcome of WW2 is general regarded to be a complete disaster here, I don't know who you think you're fooling with this jewish slop.
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>>540927229
Any white lives lost for Israel is a tragedy, killing browns doesn't make up for ot, the same politics that send white men to kill browns for Israel also imports those brown to white countries.
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>>540930223
You are effectively proving my point here. "War against Hitler", "Taking his side is rejecting the current world order" etc. - none of this is practical, but rather religious discourse because instead of relying on the concrete ideas he was trying to convey, you seek shelter in his mythicized figure. And this is not meant to be a jab at you, I am just trying to lay out why national socialism is less of a pragmatic ideology now, sliding more and more into the mythos domain. And this is very much understandable, because, Hitler's ideas were both German-specific and period-specific, - they were designed for certain people and a certain time and were never expected to be adopted by an average American in the XXI century. Having no way to rely on the exact guidelines of Hitler's ideology, modern national socialists, therefore step away from their practical meaning and make an attempt to shift the whole doctrine into the semi-religious field where they no longer have to perceive it as a manual and are no longer confined by its textual meaning. This makes it possible for them to, for example, still label their opponents Bolsheviks, despite both the party and USSR being gone for almost half a century now. Even in Hitler's times National Socialism was already being led into that direction since Mein Kampf had been written in the 1920's and was designed to describe the challenges of that period, which were no longer present in 1939. The world had changed, yet the "scripture" remained the same and the leadership of the Reich had to start inventing myths in order to make it look somewhat still relevant.
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>>540927229
>HP0HdruXkAEHFhk.png
but jews & their angloid shabbos goy slaves are the ones who declared war on Germany
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>>540927537
faggot buckbroken by bolsheviks russian "opinion"
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>>540928276
he got fucked in the ass in the army
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Slavs are brown
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>>540927229
War on Terror and the more general desire of the West to remake Middle East in its and more importantly Israel's image triggered an immigration wave unlike any other so yes GWOT has been destructive.
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>>540931486
speak for yourself
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reminder that israel makes all of these dogshit threads and you should stop replying to them because op only posted once and never again
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>>540931393
>buckbroken by bolsheviks
as if Slovaks "weren't", given your soviet-block past & judeo-liberal present

have some self-reflection before accusing others
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>>540931616
no we werent fag
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>>540931652
>no we werent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czechoslovak_Socialist_Republic

holy fucking cope, lmao, nice history knowledge of your own country, you uneducated zoomeroid bydlo

but you're not a even Slovak, i presume, but some local gypsy diaspora, taking into account your two-digit IQ
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>>540931187
I agree with you that foreigners misuse our Hitler but this mythologization you talk about comes from the Western regime first of all and is then amplified by the regime's enemies. Even libertarian liberals have called themselves "fashy" by way of mirroring the accusation from others. But your attempt to compare nationalist movements with universalist doctrines is especially inappropriate because they do not define themselves in terms of shared beliefs. National-socialism claimed authority over every German, not just those who had read Hitler's book or agreed with his speeches. The group comes first and its ideological follow from that. The attempt by foreign neo-Nazis to turn that on its head to form an opinion-based global association is a perverse distortion, that much is clear.
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>>540927229
our OP
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>>540931806
ok low iq retard
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>>540932045
>low iq
>tu quoque
you're stil coping big time, bro

go back to trannycord, if you're not at least 18 yo
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>>540927537
He really riled up the LARPers with that one.
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>>540932090
whatever french faggot
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>>540932423
>french
i'm not French...

what's with the obsession over the French out of the blue?
>faggot
you won't call me that IRL, zoomie, quit the larp, you're only a big man on net
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>>540927229
Yea I have been btfo I am now for open borders and refugees! Fuck Y-T!
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For someone that enjoys offering their ass up to random men in a public park you sure are opinionated.
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>>540931954
The mythologization aspect comes from both sides - to the former Allies he is a Lucifer-like figure, that is the epitome of evil; to modern national socialists he is something like a father-like figure that loves and cares for them no matter what. Both, however, are wrong in their perception and are trying to add a mythological element to a quite real politician of the past. And I am in no way saying national socialism (at least the German one) is a universal movement, in fact I am arguing precisely against that. As mentioned above, it was made for the 1920's Germany, not even 1930's Germany, at which point the political circumstances in Europe and challenges were drastically different from those existing a decade prior. Trying to apply Mein Kampf outside of this narrow framework is pointless, however this is exactly what many modern national socialists are doing and, failing to achieve a practical result, they turn this into a theological question, rather than a practical one. Which is exactly why I come to the conclusion that to them it is religion first and foremost, because otherwise they cannot make it work. This is a bit like claiming to be a Maoist, while living in Norway in 2026, - I guess you can do that, but Maoism was never designed to be a universal solution to every country's problem at any given time. It is country- and period-specific.



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