>1903: serbia military massacres entire pro-austrian royal family and installs new anti-austrian family>1909: in exchange for AH recognizing new monarchy, serbia promises AH to "stop" anti-austrian terrorism>serbia never follows through>meanwhile black hand's leader, apis who lead the 1903 coup, is head of military intelligence, >assassination attempt on governor of bosnia and others by black hand>serbia does nothing to stop this>1914: black hand assassinates the archduke>serbia KNEW of this plot weeks beforehand and did not properly warn AH>serbia's "investigation" ends in a week and concludes no connection to belgrade>serbia claims one of the plotters "never existed" at all>AH realizes diplomacy will never work and sends ultimatum>serbia refuses the one point that would actually let AH verify their "investigation" (allowing AH investigators into serbia)
>>540929850I'm bumping this despite Austria's infamous christcuckery.
This is a very important thing to know!
>>540929850im not breeding so why should i care?
>>540930389You dont have to. Its fine. Most people have already made up their minds anyway
>>540929850The final redpill is realising that the Central Powers were completely right.>austria-hungary does literally everything possible to give serbia a way out and serbs refuse>russia decides to get involved despite no actual legal obligation to help serbia>britain and france have been seething over germany for years and picked the flimsiest excuse possible to start a war>ottomans literally just wanted to stay out of it and play nice with the entente only to realise that the former were determined to destroy them anyway and threw in with germany and a-h as well as giving up territory in thrace to convince bulgaria to join the cause>germany asks belgium nicely to let them through, belgium keeps fucking them over, are shocked when germany fucks them in return>austria-hungary gives very generous offers to italy to convince them to join, italy backstabs them anyway>ottomans have to deal with repeat sabotage and massacres by minorities during the war, get fed up and deport all their asses while trying to stop peasantry from getting revenge on said minorities for brutalising their friends and families
>>540929850no such thing as a serbian government or serbian military. thats why they cant take blame for any assassinations."serbia" KNEW nothing because a country "serbia" doesnt exist.its just turkish parasites doing what they do.the arschduke was a retard.
>>540929850>nothing wro...allys with germoids ACK
>>540931077>just turkish parasitesBased orthobros btfo catholic schismaticsCope and seethe
Yes, please absorb us into your empire again. Anything but this humiliation ritual
>>540931464>Yes, please absorb us into your empire again. Anything but this humiliation ritual
>>540931706Do not talk to me gypsy
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>>540929850Gavrilo Princip was a Freemason. It's easy to prove. The movement that he was part of prior to assassinating Franz Ferdinand was called "Young Bosnia". It was a sort of fraternity that wanted to see liberty (Freemasonic concept) delivered to the Serbs and Bosnian Muslims. When you google the name "Young Bosnia" and go to the Wiki page, there is a picture of Gavrilo Princip and a few other members. One of those others that is expertly left unnamed in the photograph is Dimitrije "Mita" Mitrinović. Dimitrije's father ran an experimental farm and shortly after financed that his son goes to a Mostar school, for study. While there, Dimitrije became "radicalized" and became friends with the other Serb members of the "Young Bosnia" movement. This, in turn, made him write some 4,500 volumes of books. Here is the Wikipedia quote:>The Mitrinović Library contains a collection of over 4,500 volumes, based on Mitrinović's private collection. The Library thus reflects Mitrinović's very wide range of interests and command of languages. Particular areas of strength are philosophy, politics, society, religions and esoterica. The collection includes rare books on art history, literature, psychology, history, science, oriental studies, astrology, Freemasonry, theosophy, and more.When searching on the exact things this prominent member wrote about Freemasonry, it says:>Mitrinović made a remarkable argument that Christianity and Freemasonry were fundamentally connected. In the material preserved by the University of Bradford, he argued, in essence, that Christ had revealed the Masonic “secret” publicly and that Masonry should reclaim Christ. He even described Masonry as the expression of Christianity over the preceding two millennia. So the guy was Freemason and a prominent member of the Young Bosnia movement. Later on in life he started writing straight occultism. Strange, for a man that was friend and ally of Gavrilo Princip.
>>540929850We did them a favour. Austrians were obsessing with Magyars and Balkaners a little too much.
>>540933525>he thinks westerners readThey don't, you're talking to walls but I commend you.
>>540933598It adds interesting perspectives for those that already know some things and search for more. The fact that the Zionists gained power in America via early MAFIA influence and power, but those same Mafia's assassinated and made connections via the secret Italian organization called the "Black Hand" and, nobody connects the fact that these guys shared a name with the "Black Hand" in Serbia that trained and supported the guys that assassinated Franz Ferdinand. >From roughly 1900–1915, criminal gangs and individuals in Italian-American communities used the name Black Hand / Mano Nera for extortion, kidnapping, arson and murder threats.>They commonly sent anonymous threatening letters, demanding money and threatening to kill the victim, kidnap relatives, burn property, or use explosives. The letters often featured a black hand, skull, knife, gun, or other symbols. Seems like the perfect organization to pay if you wanted to assassinate a high tiered target in pre WW1 Europe/America
>>540929850All the old empires fell only because their ruling families lost their discipline, rigour and vision. The solution was not getting rid of the monarchies but finding new national families with more rigour and vigour.
>>540933933https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisbon_RegicideIt's not the only incident, Serbia was a cesspool of masons because it was a revolutionary, anti-monarch country.
>>540933525From the mid of 1700 (even earlier) all republicanism/nationalism was masonic.
Magyar-Jew-Yugoslav daycare center.I share with Hitler the opinion of this aberration of a state.
It could have survived, if not for the Hungarians. Everyone else was fairly reasonable and there could have been a solution to continue as some sort of federation similar to modern Russia.
>>540935094Another oriental chimeric state like the Ottoman Caliphate or the Soviet Union.At Europe's door.No thank you.
>>540933525Young Movements weren't just masonic, they were misraite, the obscure zionist Rite that also spawned the French Revolution and Napoleon, the carbonari and 1848, Marx and the First International, the Young Turks, and the NSDAP
>>540935285It was destroyed by the same people that destroyed the Portuguese Empire. For the same reasons too. Maybe they would have supported you and things might have turned out different.
>>540933933Obviously, misraite freemasons, anglo elites and jewish financiers engineered and orchestrated WW1 and WW2 to bring about Israel and the Jew World Order
>>540935439Magyar mongoloids, Indian gypsies, Hebrew happy merchants, Yugoslav hooligans.All united by the jew worshippers in Rome.You can save that shit.
>>540935439>It was destroyed by the same people that destroyed the Portuguese Empire.Salazar was responsible for the fall of Austro-Hungary ???
>>540935666These monkeys can blame anyone but themselves.They thought their agrarian jewpires would survive the industrial upset.Turns out you cant keep monkeys in the plantation when the industrial bell tolls.
>>540929850Serbs got the right punishment for it.It was Russia who mobalised their army first which is akin to a war declaration making some local conflict a big European war.
>>540933525>FreemasonLooks like retard
>>540933544>Austrians were obsessing with Magyars and Balkaners a little too much.Top kek. Best post.
>>540935526You should read about Judah Alkalai, another Freemason/Zionist from Bosnia. He was Tgeodor Herzl's chief rabbi since Theodor's childhood and made predictions about the periods of 1840-1940 and 1940-2040.Basically the Jews have until 2040 to build Greater Israel and usher in their Messiah or God will punish them severely.
>>540929850They continued to let people speak Hungarian, which is a sin on its own.
>>540930759>everything possibleTo keep them peasants on the plantation>no actual legal obligationHmm, interesting how you made sure to enunciate the "legal". Cause befehl is befehl or some such.>flimsiest excuse possibleLiterally genociding the waffles? Nah, flimsy as fuck.>ottomansOttomans anything...>germany asks belgium nicely>austria-hungary gives very generous offersOooook. No, not saying anything. Oooooook.>ottomansOttomans anything again?
>>540935932He looks like an r/atheist edgelord moderator.
>>540936095Allowed mudslimes to keep sliming.And jews to keep jewing.All with the hope they would one day convert to christcuckery and learn Latin/German.AH was globohomo before globohomo.
>>540935548>jew worshippers in Rome.More like JEwngland and the JeWSA.
>>540936135That unibrow....
>>540936162Yes shitalan.The hebrew in Rome isnt a hebrew.
>>540935881Russia was goaded into action by the real warmongers in London>>540936116Retard
>dude, just stop fucking resisting and let me germanize youUm, nyo!>this will cause a world war qnd millions of deathsNot my problem, dude. Just fuck off and leave me alone.
>>540936091Yeah I now all about him. Literally the godfather of zionism. 'Predicted' WW1 and 2 a century beforehandJews have this urge to frontrun their own prophecies, bible is full of it
>>540935435>spawned the French Revolution and Napoleon, the carbonari and 1848, Marx and the First International, the Young Turks, and the NSDAPInterdasting...Especially sonce ot makes a lot and I do mean A LOT of sense.
>>540936207>we think the germans will chimp out>let's be friends and help each other in case such things do happenErmagerd, zey are literally holocausting ze poor germans!
>>540935711KeK this , unfortunately for everyone in Europe the EU is the Austro-Hungary empire 2.0
>>540936425>Europe the EU is the Austro-Hungary empire 2.0Exactly.This continent is fully orientalized.An oriental chimera, that it once detested.
>>540936299>dude, just stop fucking resisting and let me germanize youNot what happened. Nobody was getting Germanized, but Magyarized yes.AH resentment among us would be much lower had Magyars not have primacy here.
>>540936091With respect to WW1, even the term 'World War' is an anglokike misnomer. There was no world war, just anglo elites and their jewish puppet masters ganging up on the German speaking world (while also targeting Tsarist Russia) and preparing the grounds for Alkalais prophecy and misraite capture of German nationalismThe Ottomans weren't even in the war until zionist agents in Gemany, like Oppenheim and Zimmermann and Parvus, lured them in with a bizarre false flag months later
>>540936501Your old world jewpires were a foregone conclusion once the Anglo invented industry.If your regimes had seen it coming you wouldnt have had WWI.Had those autocratic regimes not been adherents to old agricultural-feudal priviliges they wouldnt have collapsed.
>>540936202>shitalan.Need another Reconquista moor?>The hebrew in Rome isnt a hebrew.What hebrew in Rome retard? Rome doesn't worship jews. Rome worships God Incarnate granted among the jews - israelites to be specific as Galilee was in the North but ok we'll pool them together with Judah as He performed His ministry at their temple. Or so they claim at least.
>>540935881>mobalised their army first which is akin to a war declarationYou fuckers really are incapable of civilisation.Same attitude as some murican leftytroon that thinks if someone buys a gun then they'll instantly use it to oppress/murder/rape/misgender them.
>>540936459/ThreadWe are so turning into Golems for Bruxelles
>>540936501>>540936575By the way the war itself including the stalemate in the West and the Revolution in Russia and the entry of the US was entirely orchestrated by colluding elites who essentially genocided millions of European males in systematic fashion
>>540936586>Need another Reconquista moor?Headed to the Taifa of Barcelona today.>hebrew isnt hebrew>muh hebrew gawd incarnateBring your jew on a stick to me.I will give you the paradise you seek.You will be sitting in Abraham's lap before the day ends.
>>540936642>genocided millions of European males in systematic fashionSo the weak should fear the strong.Vae Victis.
>>540936425>EU is the Austro-Hungary empire 2.0More like Habsburg empire but under prussian leadership.
>>540935881>Two German nations got suicided to try to keep down one south Slavic shithole from owning some Balkan pigsties and monasteriesGood trade for you.
>>540936425>>540936459I actually agree with you on the EU. Still, the Austro-Hungarian Empire could have been saved and might have developed into a somewhat traditionalist bulwark against international capital and its agents. I don't think it's a coincidence that nowadays its successor states are all pretty based and still have more in common with each other than with anyone else.
>>540936688Actually the strong did most of the dying, and this too was on purpose
>>540936658>Taifa of BarcelonaYou mean Soviet retard>Bring your jew on a stick to me.Not a stick but a heavy beams made Cross and no longer there. Didn't you know He Resurected and Ascended?Bring - He goes where He pleases>I will give you the paradise you seek.It's not yours to give but we can give you hell with permission from Him>You will be sitting in Abraham's lap before the day endsIt's not Abraham lap it's bosom and we don't sit there but in God Incarnates Kingdom. Bring it on moor !
>>540936914>Still, the Austro-Hungarian Empire could have been saved and might have developed into a somewhat traditionalist bulwark against international capital and its agents.An agricultural plantation will never beat an industrial plantation.Get that shit through your thick heads.Austria lost to Prussia.China lost to Japan.Russia lost to Japan.The Confederacy lost to the Union.Spain and France lost to Britain.>traditionalistThere is no way your "traditional" feudal lords could be the industrial barons.Retard waves of peasants can do nothing against industrial warfare.Time moved on.Your plantation managers didnt.
>>540936986I spit on your hebrew donkey god.End of discussion moreno.
>>540936688>So the weak should fear the strong.Follow your own advice portumoor or we'll have a new coastline. Zamora was a mistake and all that ironically bc of the very papacy you hate.
>>540937026That might very well he true, but a united federation would obviously have pushed for industrialization, without the war interrupting.
>>540937196There is nowhere in the realm of existence in which you could beat me moreno.Neither you nor your carthaginian hebrew race.
>>540929850I love Austria-hungry it shows the problems with multiculti before the concept really existed and the dangers of having multiple subject groups instead of wiping them out and colonizing them with your own. Its literally the perfect example of Americas future.
>>540937069>I spit on your hebrew donkey god.He is not a donkey but Both Man and GodGo spit in His face personally. We'll send you to Him if you can't doi it by yourself.>End of discussion moreno.That's rich comeing drom you moor!
>>540937250>but a united federation would obviously have pushed for industrialization, without the war interrupting.Of course.Because the feudal lords would have yielded power and farmhands to the new nascent industrial barons.This worked well in the US, Japan, Germany and France right?No governing elite lets go of its priviliges over tax collecting.None.
>>540936575>If your regimes had seen it coming you wouldnt have had WWIEvery state/empire has it's expiration date. Meaning it's early/difficult start, it's high age or prosperity age, and it's late/decadent age that brings about it's downfall. The Jewish merchant banker could never hurt Rome at it's apex. Thus, they've bid their time until it became weak and made their moves. If I really wished ill to you and your family, I would instruct my dynasty to wait for the opportune moment when your guard is down and you're at your weakest, to strike. This is quite literally what families like the Rothschilds did, for hundreds of years. Problem is that most cultures and nations do not think this way, but the Jewish one does. That is why they are a threat to any normal man.
>>540929850Yes but we did nothing right either. Proof that multikulti doesn't work. And considering AHU was made up of similar peoples and was still a shitshow, expecting modern nigger/muzzrat diversity to work is laughably retarded.
>>540937348>my agrarian-feudal plantation fell because of muh jooooozLike niggers blaming the white man for everything.You cant compute any variable to any system beyond muh joooooz.
I think that the muslims of east europe are the problem and their eternal seething>jews did nothing wrong by making up money systems
>>540930759>>540929850>>540933525All you needed to do was not annex Bosnia. You traded everything for that backwater shithole just because you were seething at being left out of colonization.Was Bosnia worth it?
>>540937275>There is nowhere in the realm of existence in which you could beat me moreno.Delusional portumoor>Neither you nor your carthaginian hebrew race.Celtoiberian but you sandniggers wouldn't know what that is.Carthaginians were greek and based save for that children sacrifice they adopted from your kike cousins.
>>540937449Religion is overly theatrical in the east.Especially among the Slavs.Its right they nominally took Abrahamic poison in the form of buttslam and christcuckery.But its all theatrical.
>>540937515>Carthaginians were greek and basedYour semitophilia and revisionism are showing kikelover.
>>540937415>jooosUh oh, JIDFnokio, y-your nose... It's growing!
>>540937348That is why you need to disrupt their lineage.
>>540930083Christianity built Austria.
>>540936207Ungerland was seething that we Germans dared to build a navy too and building railways to turkey and making oil deals with them making a British blockade on us less effective.
>>540937415Oh so you are a filthy sephardic kike not your inbred moor brethern.Ma bad, jew! Oy vey, how could I missrace you?
>>540937514Nice shitpost, but (((they))) would've simply organized the Black Hand and another "Young" movement in Czechia or Croatia, or any other piece of land. Bosnia was just the "lottery winner" for the Freemasonic staging grounds at that moment.
>>540937606Austria was the seed of Germanism.With Guido von List at the helm.
>>540936830We are still here and serbs are still cleaning our toilets and your women filling our brothels while you're a forever landlocked cuck and not even Kosovo is serbian anymore.
>>540929850Get fucked krauts, you'll never have an empire.
>>540937746What did your Islamophilia yield to you?Your turkophilia?Your country is the next Turko-Arab emirate.Nothing to brag about if I were you.You defended Bosnia so you could become Bosnia.
>>540937548>semitophilia and revisionismDNA doesn't lie retard. You kind literally worshiped The Sea People as literal Angels - the sails as wings , the gimbal as wheel within a wheel, the port holes as eyes, the fiery swords forged on spot by blacksmiths against whom your shitty bronze smelter had nothing on.Stfu and get ovened sephardi kike!
>>540937577Very good anon! Name the jew!
>>540937746And is that worth it? Serbia we are talking about. Is Germany's greatest pride to dominate over some agrarian south Slavic peasants less numerous than 1 German (being nice here) city?In your country, Turks are considered model immigrants. Turks are the Germans.In my country, we kicked out even vast majority of the Slavic muslims.We have our homeland, such as it is, you've lost yours and yet you take pride in it.
>>540937875SUCK SUCKDOES THE CHRISTKEK
>>540937810The USA forced roaches on us that's a completely different matter.
>>540937606>Christianity built Austria.Schismatics buolt Austria
>>540937956You are deviating from your rhethoric.How did your overdomeneering master race get its policy made by Washington?Point stands.You loved mudslimes so much now your whole shithole is Istanbul.Congratulations kraut.
>>540937999Austrians built Austria>Inb4 cope
>>540937516>theatricalORTHODOX Mysticism destroys the portujew!
>>540937956And what is the German society's reaction?Silence, keeping the head down, and many intermarrying with non-Germans. Women and men.But at least you get to post funny images on 4chan to own the Serbs.
>>540938040Ask the Serbs, Romanis, Bulgars and Russians what good that Byzantinism did for them.
>>540929850based serbia destroying this zogged out multi cultural shit hole, if you cant defeat serbia on your own as an "empire" then you can go and get fucked pussy haha
>>540937911>Two German nations got suicided>And is that worth it? ...Congratz. The real question is for you: Was it worth it? Do you honestly think youll be better of after we are gone? That you arent the next pig to be slaughtered?
>>540931077you couldnt invade serbia on your own despite all your slavic slave pets, you got MOGGED serbia did nothing wrong
>>540938146No.They should have been part of your slave plantation of jews and gypsies.Be good taxpayers and well domesticated like you.I dont even like Balkaners.But these arguments are fucking pitiful.
>>540929850They couldn't defeat a fucking Serbia before calling all the allies and starting WWI, despite being european superpower.They were modern Russia of their times
>>540938146I don't deny my country is a shithole, but if you come to kill my collective I have to kill you. No, I don't think we are intellectually or culturally superior to you or the west. But that certainly doesn't make me a coward, because defending who you are, what you own and who you love is something that does not care for superiority or inferiority of your people. >That you arent the next pig to be slaughtered?Men have fought and died in wars since ages. We've had overseering elites ever since the bronze age. If you have an issue with it, go to Russia and live alone in some Siberian bumfuck nowhere where nobody will even notice you. It's not a real argument, because degenerate elites exist in Serbia and Austria at the same time and are not an argument against individual's self-defense.
>540938215I am not giving you a (You) faggot. Your reddit tier posts are god awful and read like a kid trying to sound smart. Dont bother responding to me, I dont view you as human and no matter how often youll respond or not, you wont ever have a soul anyway. What a fucking awful post you made
>>540938146so worth it because now germanics have <0.5 children per women where as serbs have 1.6, they literally just need 70 years and all germans on the continent will have self removed themselvesslavs won, serbs won, you couldnt even take serbia on your own without germany and bulgaria you LOST hahhaah
>>540938300>I dont view you as humanMore bitch behaviour from the victim.I forgot you only see mudslimes and christcucks as "human".Be a good little subject and pay your taxes peasant.
And if you Germanics (again, doing you a favour, as Austrians do not have that much Germanic blood) think your superiority in many regards means you should kill me, then do so, but don't cry when we fight back. And this desire to lord over Balkan and Russian shitholes killed you.I know we haven't defeated Austria alone but we bloodied your nose well. It was mathematically impossible for us to crush Austria alone, we did not have the material and Allies were landing in Gallipoli instead of reinforcing us.
>>540938300you literally wont even have sex with your own women and outsource it to slavs and foreigners, you were never going to last long as an empire and serbian people are stronger, smarter and taller than austrians now that they have the same access to meat protein so its overyou will be a footnote in serbias past
>>540938421Highly unlikely.Serbia, like all of the Balkans, is royally fucked.
>>540938293But you didnt defend who you are. You killed our fucking archduke and played pissed when we wanted to investigate it. Your best defence of who you are would have been not starting a fucking useless war.>Men have fought and died in wars since agesyes but the circumstances have changed. Now they bring in shitskins to make sure you cant recover. And certainly not with those birthrates. They are planning your extinction. >but they arent bringing them into serbiaWho cares when in 100 years youll be surrounded by only brown countries? Youll die on this hill alone. But why?
>>540938394but you did defeat austria alone, austria attacked you lost 4 battles and then had to turn back for a year and get germany bulgaria to mobilise against you in a tri-prong attack LOLbattle on cer mountain bro you guys did so well
>540938421You and your retarded moor friend wont get a (You) from me. I couldnt care less for your atrocious takes. I wont bother reading past the first few words.
>>540938464Stop crying you rat.Cant stand your victimization.You tried and you failed.Now shut up with that slave nigger prattle.
>>540938459nah, serbia is making allies with israel since they can see who runs the world...along with the armenians, serbs and jews they are secured
>>540938520you lost to serbia in ww1
>>540938293>because defending who you are, what you own and who you love is something that does not care for superiority or inferiority of your people. This idea is entirely forgotten in the west. Here people think if they can prove that natives aren't superior to foreigners then nationalism is worthless, and the other way around that ethnonationalists require themselves to be superior.
>>540938536>serbia is making allies with israelThats the first step to collapse.And Serbia has tendentiously sided with Palestine.While its eponymous enemy, Albania, sides with Israel.
>>540938520srpska mi truba za trubiiiiiiimagine getting your ass beat by a bunch of subhuman slavs who werent even 6ft tall on average yet hahahnow imagine how hard modern serbians would destory you?? youre lucky the 500k serbs in your country are sound people who just sit around and work sometimes instead of finishing the jobwhich they will
>>540938636no its the first step into being blessed by hashem, jews run the world they keep winning and getting their way so clearly their god is real and allying with jews is the only way to succeed on this earthly realm
Why are you still giving me (You)s? You could give me a thousand yous it still wont make you human. You are looking for something I cant give you.
>>540938718serbia literally just finished fighting off turkey too and you STILL couldnt beat them hahaha
>>540938464>But you didnt defend who you areWe did when your arny came.>You killed our fucking archduke Masonic elements inside Serbia did. You can argue that extermination of this element was our duty, but meh. A lot of things are duties and aren't done.>played pissed when we wanted to investigate itWe were not gonna become your puppet state without a fight. We need to be fought before submission, if it comes.>Your best defence of who you are would have been not starting a fucking useless war.How did we start it if you were the one that declared war over some royal against a country that did not have incentives to start it. Serbian high command never harboured illusions of greatness likeyours did.>yes but the circumstances have changed. Now they bring in shitskins to make sure you cant recover.We are tribalists, but even then, at worst we are equals in that suffering.How would your precious Austria-Hungary or a Serbian submission stop this fate?In fact, Austria-Hungary made Vienna, Balkan.>And certainly not with those birthrates. They are planning your extinction. Alright, but I don't see why would we submit to you if that inevitable replacement happens anyways.Would KuK be protecting Serbia's demographics?>Who cares when in 100 years youll be surrounded by only brown countriesThen why are you hating on me if it doesn't matter?I for one lost 7 of uncles of my great grandparent in that war. That's only unlces of his. I really cannot be a normal man and glorify the war. I never cheer for what Serbs and Masons did.
>>540938485I know that but Serbian army was running out of supplies. We were spent. Tri-prong attack just made the dominos fall faster.The victories don't tell the whole story.
>>540938776you have nothing to apologize for, Princip was a nationalist and if the roles were reversed an austrian revolutionary would have done the sameitits nation building and every single group in europe big enough tries their hand at it, theyre just mad that after 10 years after 1912 serbia got 5-10x larger LOL
>>540938861Gavrilo was largely an anarchist and yugoslavist.Not really a Serb nationalist.
>>540938855its super commendable, you took on a "empire" 10x your size in terms of population, >20x your economy and you pushed them backand im certain the austrians without their allies could not have regrouped and defeated you, the austrian army was full of croats, czechs etc they arent strong enough to defeat serbs
>>540938921doesnt matter, his assasination resulted ultimarely in a serbia that was bigger, better armed and richer than ever beforebecause of princip serbs got yugoslavia 1, yugoslavia 2 to the point that belgrade and serbia have so much more ammo and weapons than all their neighbours except greece and romania who are ALLIESnew serbian century is coming
>>540938968>new serbian century is comingHighly unlikely.
>>540938536>nah, serbia is making allies with israel since they can see who runs the world...This is the only path forward
>>540938603I consider you historically dwarfing us in many ways. But nowadays I do not see your superiority. I am never much impressed with western brains on this board or in real life. Sure, you're cultured people, you don't have mafia, you don't throw garbage anywhere, you're good citizenry, but that is not what makes a nation inherently superior.You also think of yourselves as free thinkers, but more often than not you just follow what the local intelligence services wants - NATO foreign policy. You just don't want to die for it.I would feel sad for you and consider you allies in need had you not helped muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo over us. This is why Serbs shit on Europe. Can't really blame them. And I can see many of you don't have any love for Slavs even while being overwhelmed in your own countries, well, good luck then.
>>540938776>Masonic elements inside Serbia didwho conviniently had ties to the serbian military>We were not gonna become your puppet state without a fightFair enough but dont act surprised.>How did we start it if you were the one that declared warRefer back to 1st. Shooting the archduke is a good fucking reason. >that did not have incentives to start it.wanted bosnia>How would your precious Austria-Hungary or a Serbian submission stop this fate?By not killing each other for a start. Refer back to 1st.>Would KuK be protecting Serbia's demographics?did it ever harm them either? Croats and all the others survived just fine.>Then why are you hating on me if it doesn't matter?Because we fought fucking for no reason and all that happened is the international bankers got more cash and closer to our annhilation.I am not saying we are superior. Im saying even if we have our own countries standing up together can be fucking useful. My country wont do shit due to its size now. Neither will yours. Now we are pawns
>>540938927>its super commendable, you took on a "empire" 10x your size in terms of population, >20x your economy and you pushed them backThen we've tried to nation build with other Balkaners and it mostly failed because Slavs and Serbs particularly around here cannot nation-build. But you cannot really nation-build with muslims, catholics, orthodox people influenced by Byzantium and the west. It's almost impossible. More like, western elites and masons cooked up Yugoslavia, but whatever, we went along with it.>>540938861I do not apologise. >>540938927>its super commendable, you took on a "empire" 10x your size in terms of population, >20x your economy and you pushed them backIt is commendable. I am just aware of the losses.More of these commendable feats and Serbs would be extinct.Too many Serbs died in 21st century. Almost nobody but us cares about our heroics.
>>540929850>>AH realizes diplomacy will never work and sends ultimatum>>serbia refuses the one point that would actually let AH verify their "investigation" (allowing AH investigators into serbia)So they sent an ultimatum which Serbia would never accept in full and the one point that would make Serbia subservient to Austria-Hungary was rejected?All other major powers conceded that these terms were acceptable, Serbia was willing for further negotiations but it was AH and more specifically von Hotzendorf that was screaming for war.Austria is the primary aggressor. Germany also shares the blame for condoning their retardation and that cannot be understated. Without German involvement Austria-Hungary would have imploded in under 6 months due to the failure of the campaign against Serbia and utter implosion of the Galician front.
>>540939066I don't really know what response you expect from me. Even if we are guilty of war, the fuck you expect from me or my ancestors? Submission?You went to protect honour of your archduke (the prettiest interpretation), we went to protect our country. The end.Croatia was also not under Magyar boot by the way. It made a huge difference. Magyars were causing too much trouble here.
My view of the world was never about crying that you declared war on us or some victimising or happiness that the war happened.Read better.
>>540939470>I don't really know what response you expect from me. My original question to you as it was yours to the german is: Was it worth it? Wanting that shitty piece of bosnia and thus assasinating the archduke? Was all the fucking fuss worth it?
>>540937703>the seed of Germanism.and just as retarded
>>540939063I don't care whether we are superior or not, by any objective measure the Chinese seem to be doing the best now. In my personal opinion mass media and American culture has erased anything I could point at on a national level and be proud of. My point is that it makes me sad people see this as a reason to not defend themselves
>>540937746You're islamified retard>>540937771Hear hear! Fyck the germoids
