Realistically what can Trumpstein do about this shit? I’m genuinely starting to believe he’s gonna have to nuke these niggas because I don’t see a way out of this
>>540931915without losses there is no way out
He has to build a big coalition and then invade them. But he can't do this so logically he's just going to give up again
>>540931915Surrender or send kids to die.That's it.
>>540931915Drumpf.
>>540931915he wont do shitall the rumors about nukes is the best he can do
>>540931915Why is it only ZOG who always threaten others to nuke them, when they lose a war out of incompetency?
>>540932007Nobody else is going to die for this.Even K*rds refused and told him to fuck off.So it will need American zogbots to go boots on the ground. And i think there's a 50:50 chance that he is actually going to do that.There only other option is to capitulate and acknowledge Iranian superiority over the region... and we know they can't do that
>>540931915We are selling a commodity, oil and LNG at markup. Also insurance and security fees. It hurts our competitors China, Russia and India. It hurts our enemy United Kingdom. We burn through old ordinance we couldn't sell to anyone because nobody wants old shitWhy would we ever stop this situation?
Trump had plenty of time to memory hole this loss. He could have changed the subject to trannies or whatever, but he seems uncharastically unable to cut his losses here and move on.
>>540932097He’s never going to capitulate and he can’t make a deal so he’s going have to invade or nuke them or something. This shit us been going on for like 5 months
To restore things closest to how they were before?Accept Iran's terms, then negotiate on the toll fee which they might actually forget about if Trump pays reparations. Of course, this won't happen.What actually might happen?Some more stupid bullshit no doubt, he can't lose face. A ground invasion means seeing drone videos of marines getting blown up by Iran and the second that happens his approval rating is in the toilet. In terms of nukes, nuke what? A lot of major targets have already been hit. But a nuke is also a big "they'll remember me for this" factor and Trump is all about doing that shit.
>>540932097That's probably going to happen at the end of his term along with some 9/11-style false flags so he can declare a state of emergency and prevent elections. By the the surveillance state apparatus will be in place and his jew-run, fascist police state will be complete. He wants to be like Putin and Kim 100%
Nothing. There is nothing he can do. Not even a nuclear attack will open the strait. Trump has to fucking die.
>>540932182You should be executed.
>>540931915>what can Trumpstein do about this shit
>>540932182>jews are getting richer this is a big win
>>540932097I don't think the kikes have a 2nd chance at this, unless they're willing to wait a few decades for the antisemitic dust to settle. Diaper Don is their best chance of getting total control of America. I don't think Israel can last even a few years without US support. They will try everything they can to secure unconditional support of Israel and they will need to start doing it very soon.
If Trump nukes Iran, Iran will still be launching stuff at passing ships.
>>540932182>Our enemy the United kingdomThe jeetstien alliance is the really enemy here
>>540932182There are miggers who truly believe this shill too that’s the sad part
We still have a navy right? Trump may have forgot about the navy because it seems like this should have been fixed in about a day
>>540933058He's too busy bitching about steam catapults and the location of carrier bridges
>>540933000>>540932362This is exactly how the enemy thinks. Why are you surprised? Now look at what keeps him going and attack it, and don't go for some random tranny or nigger on the street who doesn't know shit just to "own the libs"
>>540933058What combat vessel is going to do anything?
>>540933168The jews need to be exterminated everywhere on earth.
>>540931915not our problem90% of Iran's oil goes through therethey can't sell oil for cheap to China anymorethey can't sell drones to Russia anymoreit's better off closed
>>540931915USA has been absolutely defeated here. They've taken a massive L. Iran has asserted dominance. So far as I can tell tehre was never a plan either.Israel has done very well out of this, they've got their gollum to take a bite out of Iran, they've got to smash Hezbollah, they've pancaked the Gaza strip. In the western allies Israel has now identified who are the Hamas supporters too, so they can now fuck them over.
>>540932182>we are killing our own reserve currency>we are winning
>>540932182>The sound of me punching myself in the balls is hurting the ears of my enemies, so I'm winning
>>540932310>>540931915a nuke is a sure way for USA to forever become pariah state, is abandoned by everyone, loses it's reserve currency in a day and becomes Mexico level poor
>>540931915He'll have to capitulate. There's no political will for the massive invasion and occupation and game of whackamole like Iraq on steroids that would be necessary to restore Freedom of Navigation in the strait, besides which even that wouldn't prevent the destruction of the gulf oil infrastructure.Read Zeihan. The post WW2 world order is in the process of collapsing, and the US is no longer the sole global superpower. It's debatable whether or not we're even a superpower at all anymore. More like a nuclear power, but on Russia's level. Russia got stymied by fucking Ukrainian drones, USA got stymied by Iranian drones.The USA has been revealed as a paper tiger, and Taiwan will probably be the next domino to fall. We might be able to get Cuba, but only because it's so close and they're so weak. Even controlling all of South America is probably too much for a demoralized USA now.
>>540933265Well, the ever declining SPR (Strategic Petroleum Rerserve) is a problem that needs to be dealt with in the coming months. So that might bite you in the ass.
>>540933555He'll never capitulate, it will only end when someone kills him.
>>540933523Oh totally agree, a fucking stupid idea, everybodys talking about it, some are saying maybe the stupidiest idea ever.
>>540932097if it was up to him zog goys would be in iran a long time ago
>>540933890that's why it needs to be repeated oftenglowniggers are reading this site, (((they))) must be aware (((they))) won't get away with it
>>540933802He's not going to have a choice. Democrats will impeach and he might even get removed by the Senate (two thirds majority including like 15 republicans) because of his fuck up with Israel/Iran and the entire war being basically illegal in the first place. Plus the massive corruption and all the other problems with this administration. Oh and failing to release all the epstein files as ordered by congress.The next congress will probably be sworn in, let funding lapse asap, and then spend all its time on impeachment investigations until he's gone. Vance may or may not stay, depending if there's evidence he also committed any crimes. But if he stays he'll probably be ordered to withdraw from the Iran struggle outright.Alternatively Republicans barely hold onto their slim majority until someone dies or resigns, and then the above happens. If not that, then we continue the charade until 2028 at which point a democrat wins the WH with all 50 states + DC.And while all this goes on, Iran does in fact control the strait because they can sink ships trying to pass through without permission and the USA cannot stop them.
>>540934133Trump won't be impeached and USA won't go through political crisis in a time when American Empire is facing collapseyou'll simply be sent to die D Day style
>>540933555>We might be able to get CubaWhat do you even need Cuba for? So Trump's friends can build hotels?
>>540931915Either give into Iran's demands and leave the region, or he'll have to escalate into a ground war that cannot be won. There's no way out without losing. The threat/TACO cycle of market pumping will lose its magic on the retarded stock market/jew fantasy land, and the GOP will eat shit in the midterms. And the Hormuz will still be an issue.
>>540931915Theoretically, a few nuclear strikes could widen the strait so that it is no longer a choke point.
Trump is like the real superman who saved isreal and gods children from a million satanic missiles.
>>540933265Iran has brainbroke you into supporting Ukraineweak-willed faggot
>>540931915Why would nuking it give him a way out?America would have used nukes in a war they chose to start. Not a good look for world history.America would become a pariah state, with no allies. A fitting end, perhaps.
>>540932182>https://www.defenseone.com/business/2026/08/artillery-plant-made-nothing/415443/?oref=d1-featured-river-top>The Army gave General Dynamics $533M to build an artillery plant that produced nothing Burning through old ordinance is fine if you actually manage to replenish stocks.
>>540931915shid and fard and gum and posd on drud sojal
>>540934525They could not. And what? You're going to start dropping nukes right next to Dubai?
>>540931915> I don’t see a way out of thisHow about just stop supporting israel?
>>540931915>We have to use a nuke on Iran!>To make sure they don't get a nuke, because then they might use it!Somehow I doubt that will be an easy sell, especially when it'd be like kicking the hornet's nest just as you're running out of interceptors.
>>540931915Knock out the Bandar Abbas desalination plant and watch a few million Iranians die of thirst. The IRGC will secure the remaining water and civilians will have to start throwing bricks at the guys with guns.
>>540934616You are a NPC
>>540931915Stop with all this human rights malarkey and show these cowardly leftists what an actual genocide looks like.
>>540931915Iran isn’t relinquishing control of hormuz unless some economic concessions are made, but they would probably make more money if they just taxed everyone passing through. Trumpenstein just doesn’t have the cards, even if he cucks he basically has no leverage
Nuclear weapons won't force Lloyds of London to insure ships. All they will do is martyr a bunch of Shia Muslims.
>>540931915all trump needs to do is say "no" to israels demandsthis doesnt happen so the dying of nonjews continues
>>540931915He can use nuclear bombs to carve out a channel through that triangle of a land, bypassing the strait.
>>540931915Genuine question pasta niggerWhat do you think using nuclear warheads would accomplish that conventional missiles couldnt? How have you not realized over the past 70 years of the American empire that you cant just bomb a nation into submission(even with spicy bombs)Guns on corners is the only way, and then once you leave you just lose at a later date. Its why they still have soldiers in Japan and Germany
>>540932097I'm sure he wants to but all the army/marine generals knows its suicide and so do the admirals. Air force generals seem OK with but air force is some sort of weird cult within the US military that runs on a combination of adrenalin and procurement crack. I'm convinced that the combination of amazing firepower and a relatively tiny risk of getting blown up does something to the brains of military pilots similar to cocaine. Navy people also have huge budgets but being at the mercy of the elements forces you to maintain more of a connection to reality, and ground troops know they're meat popsicles.My guess is that enough army/marine generals have indicated that they'll resign rather than feed their troops into a meat grinder to paralyze Hegseth.
>>540931915what do you mean, trump already reopened the strait
>>540934133The Democrats won't impeach him because they are also controlled by Israel. The only way this is ends is if someone kills him.
>>540932349>That's probably going to happen at the end of his termTrump's problem is that the strategic oil reserve in the US bottoms out around the end of the year which will send the price of diesel up by another 50-75% and freak out US markets in the space of a few weeks. Food inflation in the US has gone way up since the war started, like I am paying 40% more for fresh fish than I did a year ago and the same is true for many other goods. This is the biggest reason the Republicans are going to suffer at the mid term elections rather than moral outrage about the war itself. If fuel prices are 2-3x higher at the end of the year than they were in 2025 the economy will shit the bed iin a big way.
>>540933265Will someone buy this poor idiot a map
>>540935777checked>What do you think using nuclear warheads would accomplish that conventional missiles couldnt?See >>540935636
>>540936679>doesn't know the difference between the fallout of an airbust vs ground detonation Ngmi
>>540933377>>540933555checked>>540934206>there will be no political crisis in the US because the government is going to do something that would cause a political crisislolwut
>>540933555>He'll have to capitulate.Yes, but howHe can't just say 'well we achieved our objectives, great job me' because the Iranians can just bomb a US base again any time, and if he tries to just let it fade pissrael can force his hand like they did back in February. I don't think he has any plan besides insisting that we already won and hoping nothing happens from day to day.
>>540935777>pastaniggerhe's actually a potato nigger
>>540936782Well, i didn't have warheads in mind, but there is use for nuclear bombs.
He's going to order a D-Day style invasion.
>>540934133The GOP's best hope is to get rid of Trump (natural or artficial death, or even impeachment), let Vance 'discover'' serious abuses of power and spend the rest of the term semi-cooperating with democrats and saying they're cleaning things up, suffer in the 2028 election and then act like they never supported him. Obviously this is 100x easier if he's dead.
>>540931915Nuking Israel would solve this. Permanently.
>>540934352I think Rubio wants to be appointed governor-for-life and be The Man Who Rebuilt Cuba.
>>540932007he won't give up because then he loses whatever the boomer version of izzat is
>>540931915>Realistically what can Trumpstein do about this shit?options are:>nuke (lol)>invade (no political will, will also be very very costly)>walk away
>>540931915he wont do shit because he cant do shit
>>540936805>Iranians can just bomb a US base again any timehaven't the us evacuated most of their bases in the region already? pretty sure they did that pretty early as they were taking losses
>>540932097>There only other option is to capitulate and acknowledge Iranian superiority over the regionNo, the other option is turning this into another "forever war" that lasts for enough years until he leaves the presidency. Then it becomes someone else's problem. Welcome to democracy.
>>540931915Honest question, what will 'nuking' them do that will help?I don't think he has enough, and if he does everyone dies, most very slowly.
