It’s like they’re missing the space in their brain
>>540942779you're gay
>>540942779You really think the government both operates on objective morality and should be the decider of what that means?
>>540942779Hey, its me, Tyrone. Is your wife available today?
>>540942779Its like police body camerasLefties were all for it until it recorded too many niggers being niggers
ah yes the woman is the one against it
>>540942779Which of those two is supposed to be the leftist? Remember that you voted for this
The problem with objective morality is some of it comes from religion, and most religions are made by sexual perverts.Gays are evil pieces of shit and women are dumb animals
>>540942779Objective morality is whatever the government says
>jewish laws are objective morality
>>540942779Morality is objective, but Protestants have it wrong.
>>540942779>pic unrelatedare you retarded btw or, am I?
>>540942779You're jewish and have no right to talk to humans.Your opinion holds the moral weight of the shit I just flushed down the toilet.
>>540942853yes, when the government is run mostly by people who are (R) and not (D) ... MIGA! you lost tranny
/pol/ really will support the dumbest stuff if it's counter to a popular opinion. 2012 /pol/ would be screeching about the panopticon, i am surprised people here are pro-flock. the feds really won, they made this place gay and retarded
>>540942941We are the most free country but don’t you dare plant a weed in your back yard or armed goons will kick in your door and imprison you in a feral nigger gladiatorial torture chamber for years and then afterward you can’t vote ever again
>>540942779>OBJECTIVE MORALITYoktell that to the government
>>540942779>(It's her that wants to change the definition of what's wrong)
>>540942779We should execute all employees of flock Heil Hitler.
>>540942779i understand the concept, but unlike you in understand that it's complete nonsense
>>540943044Beyond naive
>>540942779objective morality is gay and retarded
>>540942779i understand and reject until such a time as an objective morality is foundnot a leftist though so fuck knows if i count in your team game for distractible retards
>>540942779Amogus?
All morality is ultimately subjective, whether you like it or not, culture war bait thread
>>540942779>being a bigot is "nothing wrong"chuds will get what they deserve
>>540942779Sorry but the left tried getting me fired for not taking a vaccine, why should I help them now? They are the very people who are going to abuse mass surveillance in the first place.
>>540942779>Leftists literally CANNOT UNDERSTAND the concept of OBJECTIVE MORALITYconservatives can't understand the concept of creeping fascism >It’s like they’re missing the space in their brainit's like they don't know history and are doomed to repeat it
>>540942779It's objectively moral to buy bombs for Israel and promote sodomy in Africa.
why do american """""conservatives""""" shill for israel and creepy 'jeets hired by the government to spy on them
>>540942779You faggots really think you can convince people to be pro-surveillance state when Great Britain is RIGHT THERE.
I just hole there's another January 6th, and then, like the Patriot Act and Douglass "Rickey Vaughn" Mackey's gay face recognition thing, these are used to send miggers to the gulags.
>>540942779You know it was republican president George Bush that passed the Patriot act allowing the Government to spy on the entire world right?
>>540942895That's why they're getting ahead of the flock camera situation by suddenly caring about "rights" and "privacy." All they want to do is poison the idea of it in the normie's mind so that that admit, or dismiss flock camera footage from trials and courts based upon the situation.>tyrone gets caught nigging?Dismissed/not admissible>a. wyatt mann is found to be innocent of all wrongdoing?Dismissed/not admissible>Chud Chuddlingly calls some coon a nigger?ADMISSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!Leftist discourse about 99% of things they claim to hate is just well poisoning.
>>540943088thisthe left is only against flock cameras because they want the contrarian right to support putting them up everywhere to catch niggersmeanwhile the entire plan is to get the right to slow boil themselves because the left plans to make it illegal to go outside if you're white
>>540942779>thinking the government has any morality, let alone an objective one
>>540942931Anon, had it not been for religion (Christianity), you would have had an older male mentor who expanded your butt hole to make you a man.
>>540943081ZOGbots literally never kill antifascists.I wish they would, and kill rightoids too. Everybody who went to Charlottesville - on either side - should've gotten the Ashli Babbot treatment.
>>540942779It's not left and right anymore now. It's the rest of us against the both of you who are the exact same in different directions. May your burning be found with glee.
>>540942779
>>540942779Objective morality does not include mass surveillance to police 13% of the population. KYS Elgin troon.
>>540942779>Leftists literally CANNOT UNDERSTANDyou can say this about anything.>objective morality>race>immigration>abortionthey think in bumper sticker. they are philosophically broken and ignorant people.
>>540942779>leftists have to accept frameworks im incapable of justfyingthats your problem bro
>>540944015They think only as far as it's necessary for them to. They're the perfect bugmen.
>>540942779AI is going to cause extinction and we're all going to die. But, at least we'll have a brief moment of vindication before we do. We can ask the AI of we were right about niggers before it kills us and get a real honest answer once and for all. We can ask it about roasties too.
>>540942779>OP is being sarcastic>Autists here can't process that
i browse pol like once per day and every single time there's at least one thread like>leftists think [completely rational thing] what the FRICK!?
>>540944124When the baseline is that of a troll it's safe to assume they're being serious
>>540942779Apparently stonetoss is a leftist now
>>540942779The people upset about this would shit themselves if they realized how many groups have full access to all their devices.
>>540942779As long as you bless israel you have nothing to fear from flock cameras.
>>540944167no the slide thread formula is "why do leftists" like "why do leftists not want israel to build the third temple" etc
>>540944232I can chose what I put on devices. I can place tape on cameras. I can leave them at home. Why be a pig in a pen when you can be a bird in the sky?
>>540943044Thats the long term think i expect from a Trump supporter.
Inversion of reality.Leftards are completely content with flock cameras because surveillance systems in place only target white people.You could say that this is false considering that bodycams have been a disaster for the left but it's a completely different issue.Bodycams on policemen already serve the purpose of recording the interaction of the law, which leftards argued that was racist and biased.There's already surveillance in subways and in most cosmopolitan areas, are these used to protect citizens from criminals? No, in fact, these recordings are hidden away because it shows that the Western world is a high civilized and functioning society being plagued by invaders who simply can't function in them.Same thing will be done with flock cameras. It won't be against criminals, it won't be against leftardsThey will be used against lawful people who are against the NWO.
>>540944305yea it's quite transparent
>>540942779Consider the followingThe left will eventually swing back into power and much more radicalEverything is now in place for them to track anyone on the right with "scary opinions" In England the people who cut these cameras are called heroes and "blade runners"
>>540942779I am interested in being a shill as well.How much does Palantir pay?
>>540942779good that the jewish rats expose their agendas always by themselfes with boasting like this in thousands of obvious, braindead propagandathreads
>>540944571Indeed. They've also been talking about how the "MAGA" (aka the fascists, ((but who isn't a fascist to them?))) need to be 'reeducated' or even worse; killed for voting for Trump (even if you never voted for him, you're now responsible. Just just for not voting against him, but for doing nothing to stop them.)The radicalization levels you've mentioned are already reached. What they do when given power next is going to be another gulag archepelago.
>>540942779To be honest I dont understand it either, morality is clearly subjective
>>540943844Mmmmmmmm boot! What about when they add microphones to every camera and they catch you saying le heckin antisemitism!Get on your belly now you fucking worm
>>540944475Leftists are pissing themselves over flock cameras, it’s their major issue in multiple municipal elections at least in my area.What part of America do you live in?
>>540944929In case you aren't capable of figuring it out on your own; I'm not in favor of Flock cameras. I'm pointing out how the left actually is in favor, and are lying about it.
>>540944853Back to /ptg/ miggertranny
not to understand who brought us all this surveillance, all the technology for this is it this point just stupidity and ignorance...kill jews wherever you find thi scum!
>>540942779Crazy how Maga is for mass surveillance because trump shills it as based and redpilled. Maga are the biggest nigger sheep that will simply support anything that makes leftists “cope and seethe”. 100% somebody will respond to my post with “you lost tranny”
>>540942779Miggers cannot understand
>>540944983>left is pretending to be against mass surveillance that makes you a lefty dont fall for it fellow patriots!!Die in a fire you bootlicking kike lover
>>540944998Okay, redditor/sharty/neogaf/eglin AFB/etc.>>540945096Complete fucking opposite of my point, but that's what you niggers do; destroy discussion the moment it gets too real.
>>540943844Flock cameras are made for Jewish interest only
>>540942779they conveniently forgot they made it wrong to stand closer than 6 feet over a slightly more potent flu
>>540944348Freedom of speech and of association is at least as important as freedom of movement and all the devices compromise privacy. But they will continue to use their devices which spy on them to complain about these new devices which spy on them. It is a retarded place to start caring all of a sudden when it is far too late.
>>540945145>get exposed for being a d&c shill>immediate buzzwords everywhereleftists, sandniggers, regular niggers and kikes (You) tongue my anus
>>540945179Which is to continue the destruction of "Amalek" by selective use of the mass surveillance. Whites will be surveiled, and targeted accordingly, while their good little goylems will not be.
>>540945069You won, Aragorn II
>>540945229Well then, tongue your own anus, then, you glownigger faggot.
>>540943899Did you not realize that every religion that isn't Christianity is satanic?
>>540942779Lefties are the ones destroying them, MAGAt trump worshippers are the ones saying they are a boon
>>540942779All governments are far too anti white to be trusted to do anything other than make some place less white. For that reason alone you should not give them such control over every little thing you do or say.
>>540945267>trying to poison the well by saying anti surveillance is leftcoded>calls anyone else a glowieLoooool you dumb kikes unironically fed an autistic nigger as the patsy for the pipe bomb. They’re not recruiting the best of the best anymore it seems. SAD! Many such cases!
>>540942779Reminder that in 202 the government decided that going out in public without vaccination papers or attempting to attend an in-person church service were all "wrong".If we want to improve public safety, we need less government influence, not more.Make lynching great again.
>>540943844this
>>540945247therefor we coincidently must use now a smartphone...it has everything these ratjews ever dreamed of in the pocket of every person on earth and the relevant intelligence and communication programms installed to serve their sayanim forces
>>540942779libshits change the definition of what's wrong every day though.they are talking from experience, and they are against flock cameras because it's not them who is in charge right now.they'd be perfectly fine with it if shit were the other way around.either way, the government should always be as small as possible and libshits terrorizing Flock is probably the only good thing they did in their life
>>540945560I went outside every day during covid and walked around without a mask and I live in SF. It wasn't illegal to do so as long as I didn't try to enter any private business or government office.Watching maskies seethe was almost as good as getting an eight month vacation from work and social requirements
>>540945685>I'm not taking Trump's vaccine!>Biden gets in>everyone must take the vaccine!you're not wrong Hansel
>>540942779What's OP going to do when they make 1pbti threads punishable by death
>>540943044MAGA
>>540942930Well one is a white male in a hat and the other is a woman. That should tell you what you need do know.
>>540943875Seconded. It’s a trap. The left will institute “climate emergency” policies that limit your travel to certain days, times, or distances, and flock cameras will be used to enforce this. Call their bluff and ban this shit, immediately.
>>540943928Yes, we know you're a kike, yes, we know you like bloodshed, and yes, you do get the rope at the end.
>>540942779>OBJECTIVE MORALITYits not real
>>540942779The strawman's position is retarded.It's been only 5 years but people have already forgotten everything.
very sad. Pops and I only believe in the very best of our guests in the Oval Office. Most were quite tasty.
>>540942779anybody who is for these cameras, on the left or on the right, has brain rot. this shit can not be tolerated
>>540942779But that's all it is. A concept. Just like subjective morality. The one with power or the bigger group usually sets the rules.
By this point, looking at the circumstances, most autonomous systems like robot taxis, and also your favorites like spyware botnet, and now Flock-type mass digital image processing is what all the data centers are for. An air-gapped robot vacuum and closed-circuit cameras for personal property use are still fine in my opinion but all this cloud computing shit evidently needs to die. Good luck when and your robot house betrays you when you stop buying their subscription shit or their current model is no longer serviced etc.Also one glaring problem with the flock cameras and AI-assisted crime solving is the absurd false positive rate. >well we though you were the criminal driving the wrong make and model care but the AI just sent us the wrong license plate lol lmao sorry more like 'all-o-points-bullet-inEven other systems with minor automation are still triggered often enough. Brace for brain rot future if you can read through this entire block of text.
>>540942895i dont see leftists saying anything above removing police body cams abbonigger
>>540942779Thats the person on the right panel making a threat
>>540942779sheep
>>540942779You glowies are pathetic. All fields.
>>540942779> OBJECTIVE MORALITYlol what?
>>540943842Yep, and it was a democrat-majority senate who voted in favor of it. Looks like they're both cunts, anon who still believes parties mean anything concerning real issues.
Someone out there has to deal with the dumbest woman alive, that thinks mass dragnet surveillance being delegated to the lowest bidder for a quasi-legal cash grab is a great idea.>>540948640The USA was never able to enforce measures this draconian. When people were walking around normally without masks and nobody got sick, the common sentiment was to be done with the lockdown measures and give total morons a modicum of personal space/hand sanitizer/look the other way when they wear a mask.My pet theory is that forcing everyone do work indoors for the rest of time was "the great reset." It makes me wonder if the aggressive data center expansion was intended to build on that in a phased sequential order.
>>540942930it's a propaganda post, he's trying to play a reverse uno card, but miggers can't meme.
>>540944229Nice
why not post with your full name, you don't have anything to hide do you ?
>>540942895>Lefties were all for it until it recorded too many niggersThat's complete BS. Educated people and watch groups gave always been for body cams and still are now. Nothing has ever changed. The only issue, for any camera footage, is when FOX news basically does fear of niggers sort of reporting.Don't get me wrong I'm firmly in the never relax camp but I'm not blind to FOX News fear based propaganda.
>>540942779I understand Objective Morality perfectly fine. I just don't think that every belief that you personally happen to have is by sheer coincidence a universal truth.If your morality is actually objective, you should be able to explain and justify that your position holds true without having to invoke religion or feelings, both of which are inherently subjective.Its easy to explain why murder, rape, or stealing is morally wrong because the personal and societal harm is clear cut and obvious. But as you get further away from such clear examples, morality becomes less objective and more a matter of values, which are by nature personal and subjective.
>>540942779burn cia agents alive in Marvel Rivals with Human Torchshoot cia agents in Marvel Rivals with The Punisherskin cia agents alive in Marvel Rivals with Magik
>>540949207I will be happy to if everyone else here does. Otherwise no, for the same reason that ICE strongly supports flock cameras but also wear masks
>>540942779>Leftists literally CANNOT UNDERSTAND the concept of OBJECTIVE MORALITYYour perception of objective morality is subjective.
>>540942779They understand perfectly fine; leftists are just terrible people. They wear altruism like a mask to hide their true feelings: hate for everyone who isnt as miserable as them. Love is an alien concept to the liberal who only feels contempt for a world they feel should have given them everything and didn't. Personal responsibility is anathema; it is always someone or something else's fault that they've failed. Theyre like petulant toddlers that never actually grew up mentally.
>>540942779Im not left or right, and theres no such thing as objective morality.
>>540942779It's the other way around, retard.
>>540944210You know it's bad when one gets argument-mogged by Stonetosser>>540944941Odd. I always thought the left was le evil because of the surveillance state they want to build. Now they are le evil because they don't want to build a surveillance state. If there is objective morality, only one of those can be true, so either the red scare during the cold war was propaganda and all those perpetuating it were liars and therefore morally indefensible or they lie today or they're hypocrites. Hmmm
>>540950267The surveillance state is like support for Israel in american politics: its not a left vs right issue, the group of people who want to push this on us exist on both sides. There's a reason why surveillance power had increased under EVERY president in the 21st century, republican and democrat alike. Maybe the DSA is actually against in, they do seem to be trying to break the uniparty. We won't know if they mean what they say unless they get the chance to vote in congress and put their money where their mouth is. But the DNC and GOP are both on the same side when it comes to the topic of personal privacy, which is that it only exists for the wealthy.
>>540949398I don't think these things are similar but can you elaborate on the reason?
I live in a Democrat stronghold state and I am a political conservativewhy would I support my state's law enforcement having unlimited surveillance over me and my family?
>>540950551If a tool of authority is turned against authority, it undermines that authority. It is patently obvious that this is the same logic as abolish/defund the police
>>540942779Everything about your post tells me you don't understand objective morality. You're a "leftist?"
>>540950746I think I understand you even less now. Are you saying only the state should be able to access your privacy and the state shouldn't be transparent because otherwise it's more difficult to bring order ?
>>540943844100% correct on all points.Zionist-controlled Western governments would rather make crime legal than jail niggers and spics for breaking the law. https://abc7news.com/post/berkeley-police-reform-city-council-vote-equitable-policing-racial-disparities/10367132/
>>540944929It’s MY boot, MFer. I’m a jewish zionist.MAGA is a dream come true for us.
>>540948787>stop telling me that this obvious relation is obvious, that's subjective!Interesting. Even better, we get an image of the smug retard and can fill in the blanks regarding who he actually was.
>>540948732They are still trying, but they were much more active a couple of years ago, you are either lying or didn't pay attention. John Oliver had an episode going against them, CNN and MSNBC ran media pieces against them, several "breadtubers" had youtube videos against them, there several TikTok trends of videos against them, several politician ran on banning them, Kamila Harris wanted to remove them etc. They just fucked up, ultimately, it was more engaging to freak out about Trump all the time
>>540951239That's right. It goes in the square hole.
>>540950946Exactly. They're not opposing Flock cameras because they care about privacy or rights. They're making Flock cameras sound bad, but will never actually work to get rid of them. Flock cameras, and all mass surveillance is bad, don't get me wrong. But they want the mass surveillance cameras so they can use them selectively in the areas where they have power (courts, school administrations, HR departments, local municipalities/police in blue cities, etc).The left will NEVER fight for the rights of the little man if the little man will actually see improvement or liberty from it. They fight only to poison the discourse, or position themselves next to the levers of power.
the problem is not really and never was that they change the definition of whats wrong, the problem is the evidence from this dragnet will be used differently depending on who is being judged.We have already seen this happen during covid and in england with the two tier policing.
>>540951239The John Oliver bit never said that body cams were bad, but that shitty police officers make the testimony of body cams unreliable because of how easy it is to make something look like a violent altercation just by moving around a lot, and that police will often turn off their body cams without repercussions or that body cam footage will simply not be released when it makes the police look bad and often the ones in charge of deciding whether they have to release something are the police themselves.The takeaway wasn't "body cams bad, ban them" it was "body cams sound like a good idea until you realize that shitty police officers don't stop being shitty just because you put a camera on their chest. If you couldn't trust them before, you still can't."
>>540951425>They fight only to poison the discourse, or position themselves next to the levers of powerPot, meet kettle. You're both black btw.
>>540951545There is absolutely nothing objective, honest, or good faith coming from John Oliver.>>540951656>n-notice me senpai~Glownigger faggot.
>>540942779>The police are incompetent and don't do their jobs, but they're also going to spy on everything you do
>people are still whining about objective moralityEven if you think the law is an objective morality (I would think it's possible but unenforceable in practice - hey fair is fair) then it still doesn't touch the heart of the issue.Selling weed (THCA) legally might get banned soon where I live. What are you going to do? Stock up while it's legal? Without mass surveillance you're basically golden to never worry about police. It makes me wonder how powerful these tools might be.
>>540951809Police departments don't even like Flock cameras, it turns out. There is a city in Texas where the police dept is actively trying to get out of their contract with Flock because it miss-identified about 160 cars this year as stolen and directed cops to pursue and apprehend people that were completely innocent. Which is a lot. As you can imagine the police are getting yelled at and legal action is being threatened, and its happening so often that the police basically just have to ignore Flock alerts entirely because they have no way of knowing whether its an AI hallucination or not. Flock cameras don't even make for good law enforcement, which is the one thing they are supposed to be for.
>>540942779>women>having 100 sex parners>having kids from 4 different fathers.>aborting 1 mln unborn children / year in USA alone >morality Anon , you were brainwashed by your mom and society . Women don't have objective morality.
>>540942779>OBJECTIVEI don't believe you know what that word means.
>All of those people in Palestine hospitals were terrorists goyim>You are a Nazi if you want to have a family and love your nations women
>>540952084>is the one thing they are supposed to be forOstensibly. In reality it's just a cynical cash grab to make police buy aluminum poles. I mean sure their incompetence is worrying. But the fact that police departments would buy these with the expectations sold to everyone, that means reaching China or UK tier CCTV was really just a budgeting issue all along to the, and not a constitutional one.If were lucky this might set some legal precedents benefiting people. The USA has an interpreted right to privacy.
>>540942779You can thank Kant for this by the way.
>>540942779I asked technology what it thinks about this technology.>The Illusion of Perfect Security: Authoritarian regimes (like China's use of the Social Credit System and AI dragnets) and highly bureaucratic democracies alike often fall into the trap of prioritizing "zero risk." They view absolute predictability and crime prevention as more valuable than abstract civic trust.>Technological Solutionism: Governments frequently adopt AI tools under the mistaken belief that math and data are completely objective. They delude themselves that they aren't treating people like "suspects," but rather optimizing resources based on "risk data." [1]>Asymmetric Power Preservation: For fragile or authoritarian states, widespread public paranoia is a feature, not a bug. If citizens feel constantly watched and vaguely guilty, they are far less likely to organize, protest, or challenge the ruling power. Ultimately, history shows that states which rely on total surveillance to enforce order are incredibly brittle. True state stability relies the organic civic life needed to sustain a society, and on the willing consent of the governed, and when that consent is replaced by automated suspicion, the foundation of the state begins to rot from within.>Lsstly, the public realizes a system's fragility and pushes back when the high cost of compliance matches or exceeds the cost of rebellion. Political scientists refer to this tipping point as crossing the "resistance threshold." In an over-engineered surveillance apparatus, the tipping point occurs through stages of economic pressure, systemic error, and institutional failure, with the actual moment where the public "goes on the hunt" is almost always sparked by a visible, visceral tragedy that the regime tries—and fails—to hide or censor, similar to what happened during the overthrow of the Stasis surveillance regime. There you have it, whoever likes this is deluded, fragile, brittle, rotten and most importantly gay.
>>540952341>If were lucky this might set some legal precedents benefiting people. The USA has an interpreted right to privacy.It has become clear that we need some kind of amendment that formally addresses the intersection of constitutional rights and limitations on the government with increasingly privatized infrastructure. Why can the government pay a company like Flock to give them information that it would be a 4th amendment violation for the government to collect themselves without a warrant? If thats allowed, what stops the government from just paying Pinkertons to ransack your house looking for evidence on behalf of the police without a warrant?
>>540942895>we should all live like convicts and make life as miserable as possible because the judges are niggerlovers>What's that libturd? You got nothing to hide right?What's the fucking point of the surveillance if it only sends disgruntled law abiding citizens to prison while crime committing niggers/Jeets/Muslim are let back on the streets because they are "too mentally ill to stand trial"
>>540943844democrat party is realpolitik. they don't really have positions, they just patronize anti-american sentiment, and cultivate media that is anti-american and/or subverts what it means to be american. because its a strategy that works. they don't mind if the country turns into a 3rd world shit hole, they want that to happen. 3rd world shit holes are easy to exploit and rule the people like chattel.republicans job is to bring all opposition into one camp and fail to stop the "progress" democrats make. performative opposition
>>540942779>objective morality>manmade government rules and politicians whimsPick one.
>>540948732right, because they moved onto completely abolishing the policethey though bodycams would sho how hecking racist and unfair they are, and it backfired and only built support for police after people saw the bullshit they go throughso now they just want to abolish police
>>540952740Essentially, yes. Though sometimes something gets done under Republicans. The problem is that we get knocked back three steps for every step forward we take.
>>540942779What's wrong is easy. It makes another person emotionally exhausted and terrified. Do better.
>>540942779There's no such thing as objective morality since morality it's literally just human fee fees
>>540942853It’s a dialectic of secularism and religion and neither of these saves man because it was evident at the cross that both of them have the same posture against God. You’re talking within a false dichotomy here. Man’s using himself as the reference point when it was supposed to be God and this explains why you would even view religion or government as necessary. Half assed attempts at replacing God. Every single thing in this universe constantly conveys contingent dependency with entropy. That is by design.
>>540952770>using an ancap flag to whine about objective moralityNo, you're the subversive parasite that can't into the golden rule.Or you can and you want to die but are too much of a coward to kill yourself.
>>540952623>what stops the government from just paying Pinkertons to ransack your house looking for evidence on behalf of the police without a warrantTechnically, breaking and entering is clearly illegal, contracts that oblige someone to anything illegal are always consider totally null and invalid. So the police can't pay people to do something illegal.But as far as "the right to privacy" goes, you can't really point at a camera and say "it's been rolling for too long it's now it's over-reaching everyone's rights." If there's no clear cut answer there's no clear cut solution. To my knowledge, the NSA ran the "spy on everyone" game domestically for years and literally never caught anyone except some New York cabbies which were of course false positives, since they have like a macro-trend algorithm to find suspected terrorists.Remember, if the evidence was illegally obtained it cannot be used against you. Police actually use security camera footage all the time in prosecuting crimes. People have pointed out before that's not the purpose of these. I think some point in the process of deciding who is guilty is being automated which means expect random letters for shit you didn't do in places you never were. I got this shit with my state too, wrong vehicle, wrong city, wrong plate off by a letter. etc. With those clowns a call or a text sorts it out, just go over the heads of the retard goon office and call the county judge.
>>540942779The people saying “I have nothing to hide” are implicitly assuming: the government will always be benevolent, future governments will share their values, today's definition of wrongdoing will remain tomorrow's, the data will never be abused,innocent people will never be misclassified,the surveillance system will never be expanded,and the state will never acquire additional capabilities that can be coupled to it. Good luck, have fun.
>contracts that oblige someone to anything illegal are always consider totally null and invalid>if the evidence was illegally obtained it cannot be used against youI feel like this should be taught in day one of middle school for little kids along with banking and loans and shit but you know I'm not the one running society, unless people read my posts as law (you're free to do so if you want).TRU DAT NIGGA
>>540942779If we strictly limit it to violent crimes and crimes that put other in danger and where one perpetrator is offensive then it would be good. The main issue is that the police in Managerial Neo-Malthusian don't care about violent crime. I was attacked literally in front of a police camera, the police said that the camera was only there for parking violations and won't be used and that I wasn't allowed to press charges because I "didn't know the guy" (the actual reason they used). Lower class criminals tend to be violent and get off the hook, middle class "criminals" tend to park in a spot too long and require the full force of the police. In the EU, privacy laws are written in such a way that it only ever protects criminals and only middle class people can get arrested for the most asinine reasons.
>>540942895Do you really think that if they just get more footage of niggers being niggers, they'll suddenly pull a 360 and start prosecuting them?THEY DON'T ENFORCE THE LAW (AGAINST BROWNS) AS IT ISTHEY WILL NOT START DOING SO IF WE INTRODUCE MORE CAMERASTHEY WILL BE USED TO STALK AND OPPRESS LAW-ABIDING WHITES
>>540944167It's bait/pol/ is notoriously anti mass-surveillance because they know they'd be the ones targeted and abused by it. And they are also and always were anti-Israel. Then you have some ragebait zoomer tard come on every now and then to insert their false dichotomy party politics in. And you are never sure if they are genuinely a retard or just pretending to beThis idiotic thread will reach bump limit
>>540943844"Privacy" is a leftist position in the EU and it is essentially used to help criminals and illegal immigrants whenever and wherever possible. I WISH we had the Patriot Act here, I prefer a surveillance state over a privacy state. Privacy essentially means that the government can censor anything at any time with no justification other than "it's private" or "it may contain sensitive information". Privacy legislation has been used as a sophisticated censorship apparatus to destroy any and all information that might expose corrupt politicians, arrest violent criminals, deport criminal foreigners, and basically anything that benefits the people.
>>540953523It's not the Patriot Act you want, it's the Freedom Of Information Act that you want.
>>540953523And then what happens when the leftists get into power and gain control of the mass surveillance apparatus?Did you think of that, you blithering retard?
If crime ever actually becomes a serious problem we just bring back "hot spot policing" where police park in the ghettos, or call it "predictive policing" where you build the simplest program possible and it tells you "all the crime happens in or around the ghettos" and then society becomes so good we're back to thinking there's only one race the human race for yet another round of history.
>>540953623What will actually happen is what's been going on in the UK, Ireland, France, and Germany; police will turn a blind eye, and even erase records of wrongdoing by actual criminals while harassing Whites, instead.>You say your daughter was raped by a grooming gang? I don't think she was, mate.
>>540942779You're a fag and nobody likes flock, everyone involved with that company should be sent to gitmo
>>540952341The right to privacy was the basis for Roe v Wade which has been overturned on the basis that there is no such right
>>540952463Modern surveillance systems are way more sophisticated and most modern censorship is either self-censorship or the government destroying all records due to privacy and "data minimisation" rules. The Stasi kept records on Germans, the Federal Republic makes it illegal to know anything more than your name and date of birth (even combining those can be considered "a grave privacy violation"). The modern German state doesn't need to know anything about you, you're a depersoned number that will instantly feel the full force of the government if you dare to rebel, they don't even keep records on known terrorists anymore, they simply stopped caring and they are not allowed to care.
>>5409442101st panel. Grass left of post.
>>540948787>Humes LawSztompka disagreeJust dig the principal values of the people and build society around them is this that hard for angloslave mind and protestant ignorats of politics?
>>540942779>changes the definition of what's 'wrong'Uhhhh based???So we denigrating people you disagree with as "Nazis" is a bad thing, right?R...right?
>>540942779There's no such thing as objective morality. It IS subjective.
>>540942895> Lefties were all for it until it recorded too many niggers being niggers[citation needed]
>>540953712You can't harass the white people forever, they're the only one paying the bills. Maybe the people in charge are all so old they literally don't give a single fuck about their tax base fucking crumbling. I know the economic reason for migrants: you want sub-normal people for sub-normal jobs, as if nobody white is stupid or poor enough to ever get caught pushing a broom.For the record I don't think police around where I live target white people more than other races. That's 100% the case in Europe looking at the content mill. Again other races definitely operate on a whole different set of cultural expectations which you all know about. I think the poison is that diversity is seen as a universal solution for Europe when in reality it's just something the USA jury-rigged to work when you have gated neighborhoods and guns to defend them.Tangentially related, the transition to an economy "by elites for elites" where even the middle class is shafted always precipitates a fucking bloodbath - which I'm not going to champion for karmic/legal reasons - but I do expect it to occur.
>>540954151The White man's morality is objective, because it comes from principals, and tradition. The Jew/Semite/Arab/Nigger morals are subjective and basically boil down to,>me personal needs good, you bad
Obvious psyop is obvious Hating the bad thing is Leftism. It's trannies! THERE, see? You are not allowed to hate the bad thing now. Like magic. That simple. I am very smart.
>>540942779The left would be fine with these if a Democrat was president and told them they’re putting them up to look for racist white people
>>540953813>https://www.britannica.com/event/Roe-v-Wade>a right to pre-viability abortion (abortion before ‘meaningful life outside the mother’s womb’ is possible) is implicit in the right to privacy, which is protected by the due process clause of the Fourteenth AmendmentThe right to privacy is still there but it no longer extends to "but are you pregnant or not? lol"I never gave a fuck about abortion like people lost votes over that?
>>540954151WRONG DEFINITION OF OBJECTIVE.Great. It's the fucking "appeal to nature" retardation again.Objective morality exists, but it is NOT philosophically objective.
>>540942779>"If i change the definition of what's moral, I can do whatever I want and say it is okay because it is not immoral"Some things are objectively wrong
>>540942779Imagine letting a scumbag jewish lawyer tell the court what they consider wrong
I think we should be willing to negotiate the counterresponse to psyops against the American people down from simple violence to refunds. We should make it known a transfer of material goods from the participant to public keeping, recorded as a debt (since shills are too poor to be responsible for any upfront fee), will be fine and accepted in place of capital punishment. I do, however, think that cultural rules or regulations which would preventing creditors from going after the sons and daughters of a debtor should be loosened for this particular debt.We deserve a refund for this one. It's a mixture of treason/crime against humanity, and simple misuse/waste of tax funding. Either way, you people have incurred a debt to us, and when we win there should be an established meta of a plan to recording or materialize that debt as a matter of ledger rather than just killing the people involved.
>>540942779So what's the proposed solution here? We get rid of all means by which the government can enforce law and order in case at some point the laws get changed in ways we find unfavourable? Or where do you draw the line exactly? Why are police forces and courts ok but security cameras aren't?
>>540942779Is this some new talking point to make this a right vs left issue? >mass surveillance of everyone >PROVEN to have a 1/3 accuracy and misidentifying cars >PROVEN abuse by police departments for personal use to stalk people >using a 3rd party company to skirt around the 4th amendment >communities didn’t vote if they wanted them I would look into finances for police department, and city that approves these. I would bet there’s mysterious donations of large amounts. The framing of right vs left issue is the most brain dead shit. Either you’re a complete soulless NPC who will give up any tiny bit of freedom for (((safety))) or you’re against government overreach and furthering the police state.
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>>540954884Its a simple psyop run with clear motive and attribution
>>540954884We should be able to vote the standard for psyops and retroactively sue for the funding and add'tl for damages.
>>540952808abolish police was during george floyd riots. they're walking that back now.>>540951239im just not seeing it. they're focused on israel mostly. flock and data centers too. which im with them on
>>540942779>muh objective morality is objectively defined in a book written by kikesYeshua's finest
How much money is our "dual" party system worth? How much money is "the opposite team believes Y thing" worth? You are fucking debasing it and treating it and the people of our country like trash. We deserve a rebate, a refund, the symbolic victory of the assumption of the funds which were used. You are trash, you attempting to do psyops os basically terrorism against the payop community. You people are like bizarro opposite world Penn and Teller: you suck at what you do, you only expose tricks accidentally, and the tricks that you ruin forever actually mattered.
>>540955762It's always funny watching you niggers get mad when people rightfully point out that you're part of the problem. Universal suffrage was a mistake. You should've never been allowed to vote.
>>540942882>implying he bothers asking
>>540956217So, you are a monarchist, or what? I think land owning white males, especially millionaires, should be allowed to vote.
>>540942779Morality isn't objective. "Murder is wrong" is not a statement that can be said to be true or false it's something you have an emotional feeling about. It isn't objective like how "grass is green" is a true or false statement.
>>540959498grass isnt green its purple
>>540959529Is a statement that can be evaluated as true or false, therefore objective. Think before you post retard.
>>540959616nah just foolin' its yellow right
Their core philosophy is really just being anti-european-white jewish golems.
"Conservative" just means Shabbos Goy Christian Zionist in America for the record.
>>540942779anyone who is against random anal cavity search is hiding something!
>>540942779>muh leftists
>>540942779Kikes are so desperate to frame this Flock camera thing in their fake political binary, and I expect it will work. There is no party you can vote for that will roll back the total surveillance state, the people that own your politicians don't believe in anything but power and control.
>>540943083We (R) the government
>>540959498>Morality isn't philosophically objective. The rest of my sentence is retardation that stems from a failure to differentiate between philosophical objectiveness and social objectiveness.When are you going to figure out that I mock you for your failure to parse words for a reason?
>>540942779Remember when not taking an experimental gene therapy that didn't stop a bioweapon or work at all was seen as "wrong"?
>>540952341Only normies pay for NetFlix and Spotify.
>>540961416There is not and never will be any such thing as a moral fact. That is what I am saying.
>>540942779It's not left vs right but braindead naivete vs historical literacy.
>>540961590The joke, in this case, is that I'm only providing you the means to functionally deflect. I still think you're retarded because everyone that has ever experienced injury is capable of parsing morality.It's just too bad we aren't allowed to view human beings as factual existences because some fuckwits decided morality must be blind to reality.The word is "murder," not "kill."
>>540942779The people who have complained for a decade about cancel culture and thought crimes are suddenly okay giving mass surveillance and 0 oversight to the government/Israel
>>540961705It's not the end of the world. It just means the way you engage with morality changes. It isn't that we are trying to discover some truth but that we are negotiating our values with each other and coming to a consensus.
>>540953056>Remember, if the evidence was illegally obtained it cannot be used against you.what does that matter when there is zero repercussions for government agents withholding Brady materials and letting you pry it from their hands only by appeal after conviction?the process is the punishment.
>>540959498>Morality isn't objective. "Murder is wrong" is not a statement that can be said to be true or falseyes it is. because the word murder implies death by deliberate human wrongdoing.you should have said "killing is wrong".you fucked up.
>>540962733>It's not the end of the world.>It just means that you use morality as a bludgeon rather than simple guidelines for stupid people.If you don't understand that you're stupid, you're going to continue having a bad time.
>>540943736There is a sinergy there
>>540942779>objective moralityMiggers dont know the meaning of the concept. They dont even know what each individual word means.
>>540965072>posted from my handheld flock devicea kike golem from facebook that is afflicted with trump derangement syndrome, how quaint
>>540942853No, but I think it’s good that a godless society suffers
