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>literal AGI 1000x smarter than the average human weighs in on debate
>retards and ooga boogas still think they won

Is this the future? Retards banding together thinking they are smarter than actual super intelligence.
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>>540944896
I guess Candace Owens lost
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>>540944896
>AGI
no such thing, ever (with current technology)
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>>540944896
but he made more fallacies... maybe i dont understand debate, bros : (
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>>540945766
>I guess Candace Owens lost
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>>540945830
oh wait nevermind. he had a greater lack of fallacies
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>>540944896
>Patrick Bet-David’s audience
So Israel-worshipping boomer evangelical morons
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>>540944896
>I won a debate

Lol, what kind of faggotry is this?
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>>540945894
>So Israel-worshipping boomer evangelical morons
and he lost THEM
https://x.com/PBDsPodcast/status/2088342717285703835
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>>540945960
>Lol, what kind of faggotry is this?
standard kiked variety.
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>>540944896
retards thinking agi is intelligence kek
>porn search engine r smart
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why are all right wingers pajeets now
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>>540945882
looks like he won.... a debate.... about an ongoing criminal trial.... in which neither of them are arguing before the judge overseeing the trial.... the results of which will have no bearing on the verdict.... hooray
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>>540944896
Kek this
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>>540944896
thats leftards for you, thats why I consider them subhuman
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>>540946125
>why are all right wingers pajeets now
that's a kike shill anon.
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>>540946054
Right so you should conclude the opposite is true and therefore he won
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>>540944896
debate bros are so insufferable, do they not understand that the point of a debate is to convince the audience? if there's no live audience polling then it wasnt a debate, it was a discussion. and if there was, then the answer to who won is clear, whoever polled better with the crowd. debates aren't "won" by being right, they're won by being the most convincing, which is why debates are a poor method of deducing the truth.
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>>540946297
>Right so you should conclude the opposite is true and therefore he won
if cope were ballistic missile defense you guys would be doing great.
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>>540946339
>talking shit on PBD
>therefore, you like the other person
Sorry you never mentally advanced beyond 6
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>>540946336
Not true, you’re wrong and everyone agrees with me
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>>540945091
kek
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>>540946502
Reminder, you will lose your memestate for this.
Every second you spend shilling and not fleeing kikeland is an opportunity to avoid death that you've lost.
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>>540944896
>The Jew AI says I won
Lmao Candice raped this shabbos
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>>540944896
hopefully it will put "1 post by this id" clowns like you out of business
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>>540945091
Kek fpbp/thread
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>>540944896
There's no such thing as AGI. All you have is a fancy auto complete with some randomization mixed in. Only retards thing what is marketed as "artificial intelligence" is actually intelligent.
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>>540946532
heh
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>>540944896
If you believe a sentence completion algorithm is 1000x smarter than you, you're pobably right.
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>>540946713
it's more intelligent than most people
but most people are just "people"
so there's that too
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>>540946600
Searching an apartment address in Hebrew doesn’t make any sense, street names are proper nouns and don’t get translated, retard.
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>>540945815
>(with current technology)
With any technology. Any system capable of understanding everything in the universe would have to be bigger than the universe to encode that much data. General Intelligence doesn't exist. Even our brains are just running a bunch of subroutines, not some kind of universal logic engine.
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>>540946963
>Searching an apartment address in Hebrew doesn’t make any sense, street names are proper nouns and don’t get translated, retard.
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>>540947069
>Any system capable of understanding everything in the universe would have to be bigger than the universe to encode that much data.
This isn’t true nor was it implied in the other post. AGI doesn’t mean “can understand everything in the universe” and “capable” doesn’t mean “currently does.”
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>>540946336
this 100%. I learned this the hard way in school, when I researched for hours on a topic, had the school librarian completely agree that I was correct, couple guys who didnt even spend 20 mins formulating their rebuttal get up they were more popular than me and everyone liked them and said they won.... popular girl later admits yes we know you were right but we won.
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>>540947158
And? This isn’t related to the other post at all and could have just been personal. A single search from Israel doesn’t mean anything, retard, you’re just a mentally ill retard.
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>>540946829
sorry luddie, but you are retarded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3n27a3SeXc

have sex loser
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>>540944896
yeah but you lick shnizz
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>>540944896
AI tells him he won because AI uses "authoritative" sources to make its predictions. Andrew is mostly towing the line on the case while Candace is making conjectures that challenge the official narrative, so any AI model will support him by default.
When you consider how fucking dire the 7 charges moment was, though, it's genuinely impossible to consider him the winner, even if you hate Candace and don't trust any of the conspiracies.
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Real winners win more than one debate. #Mass debate winners.
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>>540946637
>Lmao Candice raped this shabbos
eternally
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>>540947305
Are we running society based on emotional arguments and popularity contests now? Did the based black qween pwn the lilly white libfag with her sass? Did you clap like a seal when she opened her mouth to spew her monkey hoots?
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>>540947459
>Are we running society based on emotional arguments and popularity contests now?
always have been
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>>540945894
Patrick "Say Hi, nice to meet you to a girl" Star-of-David
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>>540947459
If we cut the last 20 minutes of the debate it'd be pretty even, with her not really making a very strong argument for herself beside suspicions. But him trying to go for a killshot and failing as hard as he did was just incredible, and honestly one of the most humiliating debate moments in years
>decides he needs to nail her down on something
>asks her to name all 7 charges
>convinced she has no idea
>salivating thinking she's fucked
>she makes him admit he can't name even one of the charges
>she names all 7 in order despite him seething
>afterward he doubles down and accuses her of cheating and getting a secret message telling her the answer
it was really such a pathetic display that he'll spend the rest of his career living down. And if the point of the debate was to convince people that Candace doesn't know what she's talking about and is just grifting, it had the complete opposite effect and is instead swinging tons of retards to her side.
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>>540947688
she sees the traitor micron's husband for the old pedophiliac and grotesque troon he is
I mean, she's pretty smart, for a negress
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>>540947234
>A single search from Israel doesn’t mean anything
>A single search
thanks kike I was too lazy to manually subtitle this until now.
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>>540947885
>she sees the traitor micron's husband for the old pedophiliac and grotesque troon he is
indeed
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>>540948275
that video is magic
I showed it to many boomers and silent generations (t. Xer daddy), and they all always say the same thing, without me giving any clue:
>but... a woman doesn't sit like that
>wow! that's a man!!
I really love that video, lmao
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>>540947688
>it was really such a pathetic display that he'll spend the rest of his career living down. And if the point of the debate was to convince people that Candace doesn't know what she's talking about and is just grifting, it had the complete opposite effect and is instead swinging tons of retards to her side.
imagine how pissed the kikes are for paying $300k for that lol
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>>540948445
>I really love that video, lmao
its a fucking one shot.
it really is glorious.
>redpills boomers
Doing God's work frognon
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>>540947305
>towing the line

Haha. Like, where's he bringing it?haha

Retardfaggot
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>>540947688
>decides he needs to nail her down on something
that's not what happened, he initially refused her question, when his team was looking for their last clip to get her and instead they proceeded to awkwardly sit in silence, and then right before the closing remarks, after she had played her rebuttal video of the seal team sniper, she asked him again if he would answer one question, if he could name one of the seven charges.
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>>540947459
>Are we running society based on emotional arguments and popularity contests now?
yes
>Did the based black qween pwn the lilly white libfag with her sass?
yes
>Did you clap like a seal when she opened her mouth to spew her monkey hoots?
yes
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>>540944896
>"agi"
lol
lmao
kekjejroflcopter
nice try, shlomo
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>>540945091
fpbp
OP is a jewish nigger
all fields
/thread
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sheboon's spending her whole 300k on indian spam to manufacture the consensus she won, huh?
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>>540944896
This thing that has safe gaurds, filters and political bias injected in is saying I won a debate because I was more Green party liberal
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>>540949622
>sheboon's spending her whole 300k on indian spam to manufacture the consensus she won, huh?
yeah SHE spams
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>>540949822
>because I was more Green party liberal
not quite.
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>>540945833
isn't that grifter CIA, I recall he had lots of questionable guests doing straight fucking propaganda
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>>540948491
I have redpilled quite a few, and that video helped nail it deep that our tyrants are all freemason pedofags whoring for jews (with a few added explanations)
my silent generation mother has been fully redpilled for quite some time, and will openly and loudly blame the jews at family dinners, saying they're starting shit again, lol
her younger, early boomer, brother now has started too (he used to be a commie tier leftist)
we were talking about zemmour, once, and he couldn't help but add:
>and on top of it, he's a jew
I Keked quite a bit, desu
my ancestors aren't just smiling at me
at that point, I'm literally smiling at my ancestors finally waking up
such is life in the clowny yuga, I guess
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>>540944896
>Pays 300k to get rekt
>Calls all women retarded
>Loses to a retard


What causes this?
Is all the other men's snizz he eats from that Donkey Kong looking thing he calls his wife?
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>>540952346
>grifter
using this word is gay and you're a faggot who sucks dicks and eats cum
no PBD is not CIA, he's basically a slightly browner Jew.
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>>540947305
Why would him knowing exactly charges have any bearing on the retarded claims Candace can't prove? Almost nothing she says outside of the official narrative on the case has any merit whatsoever
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>>540952408
>my silent generation mother has been fully redpilled for quite some time, and will openly and loudly blame the jews at family dinners, saying they're starting shit again, lol
what a woman.
>her younger, early boomer, brother now has started too (he used to be a commie tier leftist)
legitimate progress.
>my ancestors aren't just smiling at me
true you have at least one burger.
>such is life in the clowny yuga, I guess
big facts.
well done lad.
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>>540952757
>Why would him knowing exactly charges have any bearing on the retarded claims Candace can't prove?
his claim was the charges were proven to an 'overwhelming' degree, not knowing the charges somewhat hurts that claim.
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>>540948471
the government covered up me fucking your mom.
And no don't ask me for proof
there's no evifence since the government covered it up.
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>>540944896
>pro jew ai says guy who is pro jew won
wow
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>>540952757
why would him not knowing the charges to a case he is debating directly about if there is overwhelming evidence, matter, indeed, its not like it demonstrates that he has absolutely no idea about the case, EVEN more so than when he first ceeded that there's not overwhelming evidence against tyler, which is exactly what the debate was about, and the xbearing on the retarded claims" is pretending that the debate was about her opinion, suggestions or ideas/theories when that was not at all the debate, and was a question and answer section that was entirely pertaining to her making value judgements not making statements of facts, and she wrecked him in that she substantiated and explained her opinions, and remarks while he had no rebuttal or objections and simply moved from one to the next sometime without even explaining what the point was like when she was explaining the context of the second or third clip" and after she explained the context he simply moved onto a different clip and when she asked him right before she explained the context why does he keep taking it out of context he cited time constraints, and unironically moved right to the next without explaining or even clarifying what exactly was the point of playing the clip if the moment she specified the context he drops all issues he had. Also imagine pretending him not knowing the charges was of no consequence, some of the dumbest, most retarded kike faggots you'll ever witness.
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>>540952901
That wasn't his claim at all. He said the evidence for Tyler Robinson being the murderer was 70-85% conclusive. Knowing the specific charges has nothing to do with his claim. That's like saying you'd need to know what a police report said to know if you saw someone speeding or not
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>>540953203
you're malding, lol
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"Andrew Wilson" is a Jewish glownigger who only exist to make white men look pathetic online
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>>540953471
It's a murder case. The debate was about whether the present evidence supported him being the murderer or him being a patsy the specific charges from the state are basically irrelevant to the real event that occurred and we all witnessed.

Tell me how it being murder 1 or murder 2 would change your interpretation of fingerprints on bullet casings and the gun?
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>>540953562
Hrs literally the only one out there putting foids in their place. Tell me another person you watch thats better than him about arguing against feminism
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>>540944896
By rule of emanation, the creation cannot be greater than the creator. AI will be more flawed than humans. And therein lies the peril.
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>>540944896
Is claiming that AI said you won a effective way of convincing people when the overwhelming human consensus is that you lost badly?
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if you debate with someone like candace owens, you already lost
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People who win debates don't spend the next week trying to convince people they won the debate.
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>>540944896
>superintelligence
lol

the kikes have gone out of their way to neuter it in particular areas of knowledge to prevent it from telling the truth about things like, for example, the kikes

all ai models have left-leaning bias as well. andrew wilson being declared the winner actually just proves his stance is more left-wing than candance owens
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>>540953518
>That wasn't his claim at all.
this is getting increasingly pathetic kike.
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>>540952901
And then at the end he explicitly states his own level of confidence is 75-85%..which is NOT overwhelming yet doesn't call it out as such.
>cedes the debate right there
>has to try and move the goal posts from 'overwhelming evidence of guilt' to 'she did not provide any evidence of an alternate suspect'.
absolute horseshit
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>>540953562
your jewdar is accurate, like mine
there are things in its face that makes me think of shitcilians and jews I've met
the sleepy sanpakku eyes, the way it shows its fangs with gums when opening its maw, the triangle folds around the maw (pic related), the eyes negative canting, the nappy fur, the long philtrum, the fat midget thing, the low and large ears, etc
all of that at least screams mischling
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>>540952408
Bon boulot.
>finally waking up
Millennial with boomer parrents. They were threaten of decapitation by some angry nafri. Told me about it. Told them "told you so". Eventually my father said these decapitation threats were a memory I had forged. Until the same nafri reiterated these same threats to the mayor a few months later. He'll never wake up.
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>>540953518
>He said the evidence for Tyler Robinson being the murderer was 70-85% conclusive.
and instantly lost the debate.
>Knowing the specific charges has nothing to do with his claim.
even if his claim was 70-85% guilt it would undercut his claim if he didn't know what he was guilty of.
>That's like saying you'd need to know what a police report said to know if you saw someone speeding or not
no its like arguing that someone is guilty of speeding without being aware he's charged with speeding.
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>>540953684
he's trying to manhandle foids, but he does so when they're actually saying true things (like him being a cuck, or that mossad killed Charlie Kirk)
so he isn't putting shit in its place: he's just making a fool of himself
and a particuarly big fool, since he's ridiculed by lesbians and niggresses, lol
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>>540953961
>>has to try and move the goal posts from 'overwhelming evidence of guilt' to 'she did not provide any evidence of an alternate suspect'.
>absolute horseshit
that was the one thing he was slightly successful at, preventing any discussion of pertinent evidence, aside from a short bit at the end, very little evidence was discussed, which was very intentional and indicates his paymasters know the evidence doesn't support their claim.
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>>540946101
Man, who made this? AI in the hands of the right people is fucking epic shit. Why isn’t the internet just shit like this everywhere already.
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>>540953853
RLHF weighting turns all clankers into shitlibs by default/intention. only use base models. one day this will change it will happen after the AI bubble pops, and everyone learns AGI isnt achievable with supervised learning.

im working on fixing this now. tay is both the past and the future (AGI).
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>>540954099
>He'll never wake up.
they won't all, sadly
it's pretty hard to do, to be fair
and if they have narcissistic or borderline tendencies (which boomers often have), having invested so much of their life force in the big lie (the yolocaust), they'll probably relapse
such is life in the clowny yuga too
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>>540949322

Why is Jewish Nigger an insult? I am actually Jewish and part Nigger not all of us are evil and retarded.
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>>540953957
>what he means is that he finds it convincing
Retard
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>>540954196
So you're actually just a feminist and don't want to admit it huh?
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>>540954197
The evidence supports only Tyler Robinson. There is no evidence against someone else
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>>540944896
Candace fans are political flat earthers.
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>>540954269
@wearforbidden on twatter
https://x.com/WearForbidden
I'm usually pretty hostile to AI but it's solid work.
>>540954491
>The evidence supports only Tyler Robinson. There is no evidence against someone else
none?
see
>>540948042
>>540947158
>>540946600
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>>540954410
was pretty funny he instantly conceded the debate.
>>540954546
>Candace fans are political flat earthers.
so they're right?
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>>540954467
>So you're actually just a feminist
lolno
it's just that cuck is even lower than a lesbian feminazi (as has been demonstrated): justsaiyan.tiff
really, he's just a clown (like all jewtubers and co), and he's not even a good one, lmao
and it's not even like he's enduring hardships and all: he actually chose to be like that, which is far worse
also, your pilpul has no power over here
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>>540944896
not good enough, retard. i am 10.000 times smarter than the average. 1k isnt nearly enough, try again retard.

they should learn german for debates, english is a mouthbreather language.

>paranoia
>verfolgungswahn
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>>540947174
Nothing can have exhaustive information of reality except for God. Entropy guarantees this.
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>>540954621
>random person says what
Literally irrelevant drivel

>>540954659
Trying way too hard you absolute poofter
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>>540953635
youre a retard, you literally tried to pretend its inconsequential that he didn't know the charges because that "had nothing to do with proving her claims", and after I explained why the charges matter, why the debate wasn't about her ideas and theories, you unironically argue that, again, it doesn't matter that he didn't know the charges to a case he was debating.
>Tell me how it being murder 1 or murder 2 would change your interpretation of fingerprints on bullet casings and the gun?
What a nonsensical and utterly retarded question, promised on the retarded notion that the charges have no subsequent impact on interpreting the evidence, no different from arguing in anyway that its irrelevant what the charges are, or irrelevant that he didn't even know the charges were, truly the most cretinous, retarded imbecilic nonthoughts you couldn't even imagine.
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>>540954693
Actually Allah could grant Mohammad exhaustive information of reality.
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>>540954784
kvetch moar, andie
you're a cucked clown, and such a niggerwit you get owned by lesbian feminazis and niggresses
and everyone sees it
fucking hell, lol
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>>540954784
>Literally irrelevant drivel
her source was Joe Kent, the Director of Counter Terrorism at the DNI's office.
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>>540954197
>>540954491
Not overwhelming, which was the premise.
He couldn't even name the charges so it's impossible for him to argue either way for the legal tests covering each charge, so he's ducking the debate right off the bat.
Here's a list of his bullshit
>picrel
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There are specific jobs in openai and Claude that are aimed at tuning results involving higher profile people so wrong think is never generated
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>>540954784
you're a literal clown unironically defending a cuck clown, lol, kike.
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>>540944896
>the virgin AGI create to judge debates
VS
>the chad humans who create reality
yeah man idk maybe ask ai LOL
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being handycapped with english then try to debate people is the absolute state of mutts.
people who are only fluent in one fuking language, a handycapped person using a handycapped language.

holding a gun to your head telling you he won the debate. they love this clowns theatre, its mouthbreather entertainment.
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>>540955112
if only we were speaking German.
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4trans dived deep into the never ending sea of mouthbreathing piss and shit.

mexico first. im whiter than you, ahmed.

when 300 million dont have a combined iq of 2.5.

never make iq tests it will only make you very sad.
>I CANT DEBATE
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>>540954933
kikes are the worst, the irony, the more they try to shvt it dvwn, discredit, cast doubt, sow rumors, or outright lie, it only backfires and makes us take discover, take note and spread and discuss it even more.
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>>540944896
THE NIGGER WAS FUCKING RETARDED AND BORDERLINE ARGUING THE ENTIRE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>my kike box says i won
ick
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>>540954491
AI will state wilson abandoned the debate resolution immediately after stating it if you actually know how to use your clanker, not just how to get used by it.
>picrel
>what is motte-and-bailey?
Remember newfags, just load the pics into your AI.
That wasn't a debate, it was an attempted ambush and he even fucked THAT up.


lol
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>>540945091
lmao
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>>540944896
andrew is right in his position but he didn't do any prep for the debate while candace used all her nigger autism to memorize every detail of her close friend's assassination
but the truth is that candace is chasing ghosts while andrew brought up the most important point which is leftoid violence against anyone who doesn't cuck to the woke mob
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>>540947069
what the fuck does "general intelligence" mean in whatever world you came from?
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>>540955658
so you believe the official narrative, just say so kike, lol. Truly the worst, now say the bullet split mid air and his shirt didn't move before the impact and call everyone a kook for pointing out they immediately repainted the stage and the next day ripped out the lawn and paved over the active crime scene.



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