If this were the Iraq war, the US would have taken Tehran 5 months ago. What went so terribly, terribly wrong with the USA?
Had the US invaded Ukraine like Russia did, progress would have been stalled and end up as a blunder. Hohols have 0 self preservation and the US is notorious for not commiting to long high attrition wars for no reason. The first 2 weeks would have resulted in a full scale withdrawal and retreat. How Russia is keeping up against NATO is a military feat that will be studied for decades, especially since the age of FPV drones. The US is would be in a worse off situation than Russia.
Bush was Commander in Chief and had a supremely competent and utterly ruthless VP and SecDef and the Marine Corps was at full strength, all male combatants, so they just sent those animals into Fallujah and in 3 days the city fell.
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>>540949601army of white men out for revenge vs army of chicanos trying to get college money.
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the Iraq war was planned as a full scale invasion from the start. Iran wasn't supposed to be a prolonged conflict because Trump bought the garbage CIA report that a popular uprising against the regime was imminent and all they had to do was take out the Irani leadership to kick off a revolution. It's blatantly obvious there was never a plan beyond limited air strikes to cripple Iran's military capabilities, and the US expected Iran to run out of steam in a few weeks tops.There was no uprising, and while Iran is rendered pretty impotent right now by the attacks the US did against it, they're not showing any sign of imminent collapse and have shifted to a long-term siege mindset that the US is being very slow to adopt because Trump and his cronies still believe they can end it with one really good negotiation session.
>>540949924Russia throws away over a million men to hold onto bombed out villages and empty fields in eastern Ukraine, and you think this is a military feat? In a manner of speaking, yes, the military disaster of Russia's invasion of Ukraine will be studied for a long time.
>>540950360the IRGC will accept nothing short of complete american surrender. if the iranian president tries to sneakily do a deal behind their back they'll just coup him and keep drone striking any american aligned asset in the region forever
>>540949601Americans had land access from Iraq's neighbors.Iraq was a ruin both militarily and economically.A quarter of Iraqi army deserted, more than half could have been considered as a militia.Iraq is extremely flat.Iraq did not control a strait vital to world trade.Iranian military command is competent and the soldiers and population are well motivated.Iran has allies in the region.American population and army have no will to fight this war.No one but the most adamant American and Israeli vassals support this war.Iran has Russian, Chinese and probably Nork support.
>>540950360>while Iran is rendered pretty impotent right now by the attacks the US did against itAny source for this statement that isn't Donald Trump or one of his lackeys?
>>540949601>What went so terribly, terribly wrong with the USA?We went from having evil but effective bastards in power like Cheney and Rumsfeld who'd put the fear of God into the enemy (and even citizens at home) to yes men like Vance and Hegseth whose only purpose is to do whatever Trump tells them. Theres also 0 will to actually fight this war, whereas if you even questioned OIF you were labeled a terrorist and cancelled. Also the fact that Trump got so used to Americans worshipping every single thing he did, he thought starting a Middle Eastern war would get him the same cheers as 6 years of incompetency.
>>540949601Iraq was a tenth world shithole, a fake nation run by an incompetent dictator and with no backing nor industrial capacity. You can't compare it with Ukraine or Iran.
>>540949601there's no ground invasion, obviouslynot that it would go well, but we can't "win" if there's no tanks rolling through tehranthe real thing that went wrong was the failed color revolutions in january. trump's jew advisers told him that those revolutions would oust the government and change the regime in a few weeks, but that was a giant lie because we saw how many millions of people came out for the late ayatollah's funeral. So now there is basically no hope of winning militarily because there are no ground invasion forces (either Iranian dissidents or American GIs) who are willing to go die for jews. I guess the next winning move is to blockade/close the strait for so long that Iran is unable to sell its oil and it dies from hyperinflation, but America can't even keep one (1) aircraft carrier in the gulf without a soft mutiny.
>>540949601Iraq occupation was also like 20 years of anti-insurgency. No one wants that again.
>>540949601Iran is a serious country
>>540949601It took 12 years of airstrikes against Iraq before the main invasion took place. OP, a fag and a sandnigger, seems to be under the illusion that Iran will get a different treatment than what happened to Iraq.
>>540952247Sunni niggers will kick out mutts out of their shitholes long before they become a decade long punching bag for Iranian missiles, you stupid kike
>>540949601We're fat and lazy and comfortable on our iPhones and so have no immediately palpable interest in divesting the Jews.
>>540949601Iraq is flat and easy accessible
>>540949601usa committed to ground operation in iraq. in iran, usa is choking iran out through methodology. i cant honestly believe you think the country that is stun locked and unable to make offensives according to their original doctrine is having advantage
>>540949601> What went so terribly, terribly wrong with the USA?All of the White Americans who used to care and made this place competitive have been replaced and erased. We’re a freight train barreling to South African demographics and economics in less than 10 years
>>540950025This. And the fact that Iraq is mostly flat as fuck in the south.
>>540952247> It took 12 years of airstrikes against Iraq before the main invasion took place.What? Are you trying to say globohomo conducted airstrikes on Iraq between 91 and 03? No they didn’t.
>>540950532Muh based Islam !!!!!