Tucker Carlson has hosted a bunch of RO advocates, dozens in fact.I don't know why their going for that bullshit when Catholicism exists but anyway, maybe I'm not the only one.
even doe pope is a freemasonic faggot and vatican has disgusting satan alluring architecture and shit
Any modern white person "discovering" Christianity is a golem and a cuck
>>540950303any modern White person who is a christian is a golem and cuck
>>540950171In the USA, for every catholic convert, 8 cradle catholics leave. The growth of Catholicism is entirely South American immigration (which is driven by catholic charities). Protestantism has gone from over 70% amongst boomers to 22% for gen z and is ideologically captured by dispensationalism (pissrael support) so its rapidly dying. Orthodoxy keeps many of the traditions of catholic church without being subject to the pope and therefore Rome and Europe so there is an attempt to save American christianity by promoting orthodoxy but they only make up 1% of the population so it wont work. The future is religious nones who have never set foot in a church (61% of gen z and ~75% gen a)
>>540950171The Orthodox worship the literal shape-shifting demon Emperor Justinian as a Saint.Disgusting.
>>540950171It's been a trend on the "reactionary right" to go join a "based church" because the one you would've grown up with was cucked in some way. It's typical of people that spend too much time on the internet, that they think that the Orthodox church must somehow be more based because they saw a few clips online. Terminally online retards have found out the hard way when they actually join a church that they're not actually based you'll get expelled for starting to mouth off /pol/ type talking points. And these are the guys that actually went and joined the church in person.The other kind, and this is the most dominant kind, is just retarded fucking zoomers slapping shit on their bio. They "identify" with the church in the same way a woke retards do. It's just virtue signalling. It ultimately doesn't matter because they would've been larping as "trad cath" before this. Without an actual community, formal membership to a church it's just bullshit.The reality on the group (and not online) is that it really depends at the local level whether your church is based or not. And that's where people should be focusing anyway, not just cosplaying online.
>>540950171Russians happen to be orthodox christians. Orthodoxy isn't Russian as it were. Our oldest churches are Greek, Palestinian, Ethiopian etc. Are you a member of the American military? Are you paid to post here?
>>540950171As far as I know the Orthodox are not rabidly anti-European and male. The Catholic Church just hired a jewish lady to be in charge of editing the Bible for the goyim. It’s so cringe it’s unreal
>>540950303And anyone denying Jesus Is the Christ is themselves antichrist
>>540950171The pope is a cuck. Your only options are either sedevacantist Catholic or Eastern Orthodox. But sedevacantists are probably age 65 on average, so if you want a fertile wife, Orthodoxy is the obvious choice.
>>540950753We need a new religion for the Volk. All this sandnigger bullshit is just a backdoor for jewish demons to infiltrate white society.Race & Genetics are the only real things.
>>540950171This is just a response to the Catholic church going woke.
>>540951116All of these institutions have survived into modernity in name only. They're nothing like their original forms, even the Orthodox Church.
Catholocism -- Christianity, the empireHistorically the Catholic church would hold dominion over the various nation states of Europe like an ancient EU. The goal was, it seems, to recreate the Roman Empire using religion instead of metal. Upside: organizes people to one unifying causeDownside: top down organization responsible to leader. Often filled with corruption.Orthodoxy -- Christianity as nationalismThe church is subordinated to a national government and works as a somewhat independent arm of the state. There is a Greek orthodox church, a Russian, a Bulgarian....etc. Often the Orthodox church includes older arcane ideas that western christians moved past long ago. Upside: nationalistic, supporting national identityDownside: flexible metaphysical doctrines are often based less on the bible than on certain philisophical attitudes. Protestantism -- Christianity, the democracyPeople can believe whatever they want after reading the bible for themselves, and construct churches to reflect their beliefs. The sheer number of churches and depth of their disagreements leads to a chaotic constellation of different sects that ebb and flow against each other.Upside: personalized and democratized, you believe what feels right. Very American sentiments of competition, freedom, and individual beliefs.Downside: totally chaotic and disorganized, often very strange and hyperbolic cults can arise.
>>540950978Hitler himself said that the issue of the European religion (and its subversion) was better left until the problem of the Jews was dealt with. Which I think it's because rightly recognised that it was just a decisive subject.
>>540952021Right. That's probably correct. The entire desert trilogy appears to be reaching it's eclipse anyways, Revelation.
>>540950303Atheism is a failed experiment. Society can't function on it.
>>540950171>Catholicism existsOnly sedevacantism. Novus Ordo is a protestant sect.
I'll just stick with Catholicism, unless I married a hot Ortho woman (Greek, Russian, Ukranian, Serbian, etc) but they're not that relgious anyway so it's not a big deal.
>>540950171He's literally on Russia's payroll, and so is Russian Orthodoxy. You don't go from 80 years of state atheism to having a state religion by accident.
>>540952350Atheism in modernity is just antichristinity. If you're Christian, make no mistake that so-called "Atheists" are your enemy.The Ancients were not atheists.
>>540950171What I like about Orthodoxy is that it has the tradition without that iIllegitimate tyrant known as the pope. Joining Russian Orthodoxy in particular can also be a political statement in support of Russia of course, not that I think you should mix politics and religion.
>>540950524Juridstictions do not matter for lay people.You're not a Romanian Orthodox or a Russian Orthodox in America, you can leave and go to any other Church, all that matters is your baptism.The efficacy of the service is the same everywhere.If someone says I'm in the ROCOR or w/e it's usually just to bait you.
>>540950795Ethiopians are not Eastern Orthodox.
It’s what happens when you let women and faggots become ministers. I’m looking at you Lutherans.
>>540950171>I don't know whyAmericans are lost
Thank goodness my bullshit detection is honed to a tee and I don't listen to Tuckers obvious propaganda bullshit with his lying scheming glowie guests. I can even tell when Matt Walsh is spreading contrarian bullshit to push towards the same goal as the left, and he's usually on point.
>>540950171in theory, orthodoxy is closest to what the apostles did
>>540950303t. Rabbi Shmuley Goldstein
>>540950171between the 1970's divorce laws that removed fathers from childrens lives and the 1980's satanic panic that got sex ed out of kindergarten, probably every single xir got raped. thats important to understanding how xirs feel nothing, as richard dawkins put it, he didnt think the experience of getting harry pottered by the boarding school dumbledore affected his life or ideas or really mattered at all. thats the damage of raping children, they learn to not care about anything and be atheists
>>540950753>when they actually join a church that they're not actually basedright. churches are 100% cucked and all pastors need bricks thown at them. name one sermon ever against women kidnapping children in the divorce in order to let them be molested
>>540953879Tucker Carlson is fairly based and he has israel skeptic viewpoints. Anyone who just hates him is a globohomo jew for sure
>>540950171>I don't know why their going for that bullshit when Catholicism exists but anyway, maybe I'm not the only one.I dont' know about mutts, but there are (very) few here too, and they're pretty much all born protestatns (not even mainline Anglicans, the true low church protestants). Basically people that were raised in evengelical environment (either zionist or pornouns) and found it too goofy, but they have too much family history of being afraid of the papists under the bed, and feel more at home in the anti-intellectual climate of RO larp. The potential for nationalist or ethnic bent can also increase the larp for a certain "based" crowd, not understanding that their larp churches is also fine with having niggers in it, they are just fewer of those in whatever ortthodox shithole they romanticise. So basically chuds that can't deal with the nu-testantism denomination of their parents but will still rant about the whore-of-babylon hysteria and hope their larp will be "trad", trad meaning orthodox women having twice the abortion rates of the original nutestant chruches they come from.
>>540952443>You don't go from 80 years of state atheism to having a state religion by accidentits simple(1) in the russian empire, orthodoxy is the state religion(2) in the russian federal soviet socialist republic, marxism is the state religion(3) in the russian federation, orthodoxy is the state religion
>>540950753>found out the hard way when they actually join a church that they're not actually basedwhat i keep warning everyone about. pastor bob here sexually identifies as jonah because he says abortion is bad mmkay and the tithing committee urges him to be more pastoral
>>540951632This is probably the worst summary I've ever seen
>>540950856>>540952350>>540954024Christianity says that it's ok for your daughter to marry a nigger. Your reward in the afterlife is to spend eternity as a minority amongst non-whites. Christianity is anti-white jewish garbage.
>>540950171the pipeline is:protestant > catholic > orthodox > islamthe caveat is between transition points they could go jew.
>>540954507Bunch of retarded CRAP. Karl Marx is a german rich guy, who created a UTOPIA, Communist manifesto , for british mi6 glowies and german kings / glowniggers,when he lived in London. It's a UTOPIA that doesn't exist. British and german glowies used it to overthrow russian gov in 1917 red color revolution , foreign to russia . CIA and mi6 use this utopia to overthrow govs that they don't like. >Publication place United Kingdomhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Communist_Manifesto
>>540950753I've been to plenty of orthodox churches and even the Greek ones which tend to be more liberal all call out zionism and talk about perfidious jews
>>540950171This isn’t even close to new lol.
>>540951322Wrong. The orthodox church maintains the identical liturgy down to the vestments
>>540950292>pope is a freemasonic faggot and vatican has disgusting satan alluring architecture and shitthis. Catholics / Vatican jesuits are satanists. Their god is Yahweh / Satan.
>>540953889It IS what the apostles did
>>540950292Catholic church is an inependent entity. Hence the Vatican state. Russian Orthocucks are a retarded slave caste entirely subserviant to the Tsar and whatever warmongering niggadry he's currently engaged in. Orthodox priests are literally blessing weapons that then are used to kill other orthodox christians. They are not real christians and never will be. Total anthitesis to what Jesus preaches. Hell awaits them.
>>540954948That’s nonsense.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Believers
>>540955070The pope is a dictator for life btw.
>>540950171Catholics and Orthodox are more like than Catholics and Christians.Since Catholics (people, not the church) hate the jews just as much as the Orthodox hate the jews. Then they are friends.All the protestant religions are trash zionist cock suckers, including the mormons. fuck them all.
>>540955011I dont think the apostles chanted the anathemas of the ecumenical councils lol>>540955070dont forget the russian patriarch has a personal $4b net worth
>>540955011in the early days, from paul to eusebius, it was common to read a Bible book, or, the roman record of the trial of a martyr was a popular thing to read, or, someone could preach a sermon. there was a focus on study and praxis that is hard to find outside of marxist groups today
>>540954948the apostles didnt have "vestments"
>>540955127>schizmatic church that was anathematized in the 17th centuryLmao okay retard
>>540955070Russians UNDERSTAND that modern Vatican / Vatican jesuits / Freemasons ARE SATANISTS. And that's a yahweh / satan brainwashing tool / dark magic crap . For instance, every "catholic" "church" has a bleeding man on a cross, which is a dark magic woodoo doll. And babtism is another dark magic ritual, etc . So russians ACTUALLY KNOW who they are fighting - the satanists. Usually when you fight satanists, you need your own group who ACTUALLY UNDERSTANDS STUFF. Some people like you are just retarded, it shows.
Just become Lutheran (LCMS). We are the most based denomination. No saint worship, no Mary worship, no pope, no dispensationalism, we keep the divine liturgy, we believe in true body and blood at communion, we believe baptism saves, we believe in inerrancy of scripture.
>>540955207They chanted their current anathemas>>540955269Read acts
>>540950171The Church is filled head to toe with Zionists. The Orthodox actually hate Israel.
>>540952350The choice isn't between Christianity and atheism, it's between Christianity, which is Jew-worship, and Aryanism, which is the worship of our gods.
>>540955650they had exactly one anathema>But should we, or an angel from Heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
>>540954981>Catholics / Vatican jesuits are satanists. Their god is Yahweh / Satan.Yahweh isn't Satan. Yahweh is the manifestation of the Hebrews' will, or an overarching archetype which is representative of the Hebrews as a chief creator deity. 'Satan' is differentiated from Yahweh in the book of Job for instance, demarcating 'Satan' as a separate entity, or the 'Accuser.' Satan is the Accuser of the god of the Hebrews, Yahweh. They represent two entirely different forces if you read the Bible. This is why Pagans disregard all of this, and view Yahweh/Satan as a false dichotomy, and merely an imposed belief by Christendom. >>540955942>The choice isn't between Christianity and atheism, it's between Christianity, which is Jew-worship, and Aryanism, which is the worship of our gods.Christians think all Pagan gods are inherently evil by virtue of their theology, identifying them as Nephilim. Zeus, Cernunnos, Perun, and Veles for instance would all be considered Nephilim according to Christians because of their tribal significance exclusive to non-Israelite tribes. This is how the Orthodox interpret Pagan faiths as well. There can be no reconciliation between White Pagans and Christians until White Christians drop their self-hatred, and move on from the slave morality inoculated into them with Christianity, which tells them their own ancestors and heroes are inherently evil, while ignoring the sins of the Israelites against our own tribes.
I became a Traditional Catholic after Russian Orthodox Christianity denounced White nationalism several years back.
>>540950171the catholic community and most catholics are complete trash, the clergy seems ok except for the gay ones that rape kids and then try to cover up for each other.
>>540950171>going for that bullshit when Catholicism existsRussian Orthodox is catholic, just not in full communion with the pope. It's the Byzantine Rite, while you're thinking of the Latin Rite.
>>540950795You don’t hear many people talking about trad Ethiopian orthodox here.
>>540956593How do you square this with the pope kissing the ass of refugees and condemning antisemitism?
>>540950171Who? Youtube Podcasters? You rarely ever see orthodox Christians. They also never are evangelizing like a Christian should. They sit in their fancy churches like Catholics. Probably like children too like Catholics.
>>540955592the difference between luther and elizabeth young, and wycliffe and tyndale, is that luther refused to argue about communion. everyone who reads Jn 6 knows what the Lord meant
It’s a mixture of factors.- 80% of American culture is seething about being dragged to evangelical church on Sunday morning by their parents/grandparents.- scrupulosity (religious OCD). People desperate to find the “One True Church”.- people looking for tradwives fall for the orthocunny meme.In addition it has a lot of the key features necessary for a great LARP.- An instant sense of identity (we are le one true church, 2000 years of “unchanged” tradition, Church of the “7 councils”, Church of “theosis”, etc.)- A clear in and out group (they can make blind assertions that anyone not in communion with them and their priest/bishop isn’t a real Christian).- A sense of superiority (you are smart, the other Christians are dumb and need more gnosis. Obscure theological jargon to learn, digest, and repeat so you can laugh at people who don’t understand it.)- A unique aesthetic (Palamites are very visual. Look at the monk with the wizard robe and beard, check out the new icon I got off Amazon; this is so much cooler than my grandparents’ boring Christianity.)- A near-endless well of historical texts that allows you to throw citations at your opposition, while never actually having to read any of those texts.However most of these people aren’t actually Eastern “Orthodox”. They are aligned with the liturgical aesthetic, but the moment they butt up against the actually serious theological positions of the Palamites they will start adding in “ummmm well acktchuallys”.Also OP is a 1PBTID so ALL FIELDS
>>540950171>"why are they converting to Orthodoxy!?">"Catholicism is infallible!"Meanwhile.
>>540950171It's not really surprising.Protestantism and other American forms of Christianity are completely ridiculous especially in recent years, with everything becoming even more politicized., and of the two Orthodoxy is ideologically closer to them than Catholicism so it resonates more with people. Catholicism has always had a hard time in the New World because it implied Rome’s direct authority over them, which is strange, to say the least. Orthodoxy is much simpler in this regard and does not have such a rigid structure.
>>540950171orthodox christianity is just vanilla or real christianitycatholicism is christianity + papal worshipprotestantism is just pure dogshit that developed as an out of control reaction to catholic degeneracypeople who convert to orthodoxy are more like people who finally figure out christianity or who drop the unnecessary BS
>>540961694What’s wrong with loving our heckin wholesome 100 Jewish allies?
>>540961729>Orthodoxy is much simpler in this regard and does not have such a rigid structure.Anon, I…
>>540961746>catholicism is christianity + papal worship>orthodox christianity is just vanilla or real christianityis anyone going to tell him about mandatory iconopop worship?
>>540950753>it really depends at the local level whether your church is based or not.Almost every modern church is effectively ultramontanistic. Maybe not to the Pope, but to some central political authority, usually foreign, these days a foreign government. Your local church is no more independent or based than your local McDonalds.
>>540959468As a Traditional Catholic I think the Pope and everything since the Second Vatican Council is illegitimate.
>>540961844In Orthodox Christianity Jesus is considered the head of the Church rather than the Pope. It's a big difference
>>540962075>rather than the PopeI think it’s dishonest to argue Catholics believe that the Pope and not Christ is head of the church.Additionally I was more referring to how rigid the hierarchy historically (and arguably still is). Caesaropapism has been a massive issue throughout the history of the Palamite churches and their ecclesiological views of the “One True Church” is arguably even more rigid than Catholicism. Just look at the Confession of Dositheus (1672)
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