Why don't Russians respect their dead? Pic is a civilian cemetary
Here is a russian military cemetary
A Chinese military cemetery
>>540950613>>540950644looks nice and peaceful, whats the issue?
>>540950613what is there to respect, person is dead, move on, retard, instead of masturbating and crying on the grave.
>>540950692It's overgrown with weeds and unmaintained. Also it has been so tightly packed that you couldn't maintain it even if you wanted to without stepping on the graves of other peoples dead relatives. A Finnish cemetery for comparison
>>540950766Here we respect our dead because we are better people.
>>540950766>It's overgrown with weedsyeah and it looks good.
>>540950613Looks pretty comfy. I would love for plants and flowers to be planted over me for people to enjoy when they visit. >>540950679Yawn. No seats, no creativity. Your just buried cattle like everyone else.
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>>540950875Russian cynicism
>>540950875>Mommy where's daddy? Which one is his? >Row 4, grave 13.
>>540950803Yeah, the cemeteries is where all the good Finns are at.
Because they are niggers
>>540950875>everyone has the same type of gravestone and burried like chinese bug people>>540950958personalized and customized, easy to recognize, one with nature.
>>540950972During the winter war and the continuation war we managed to get 90% of our dead back home through hard effort, whereas you either left them where they were or dumped them in mass graves like diseased animals.
>>540950875Here in germany your grave can last up to 20-30 years before someone else gets buried there. >>540950958This actually looks comfy, has soul if you will.>>540950966McMansion of Graves
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>>540950613Actually looks soulful
>>540951101We have similar customs for civilians, unless the relatives ask to extend the time. Those who died in the wars never have their graves disturbed. Pro Patria.
>>540950613That saddens me. How many men have given their lives to fill dishonored graves, to have weeds grow over them while the world continues to turn. Respect for the dead has been sacred as long as soldiers have existed, ancient Romans used to ensure the fallen even among their enemy were afforded an honorable burial where at all possible. They wanted the same treatment were they to fall in battle.
>>540950613why are you comparing a monument graveyard to a regular one?
>>540951853i m also sadden by the fact the finnoids never heard of monuments dedicated to the bloodiest conflict of our history
>>540953122the problem is we don't judge by some massive state propaganda. we judge by the actual small care by the very family of those dead people
so much disrespect ova here. 260k sqm graveyard is never enough for a illiterate finnoid
>>540953250>see rare flag>already have it
>>540950679Chinese hasn't fought a war in 70 years, who the fuck is buried in the military cemetery?
>>540953250>small carei guess its just never enough for some people
>>540950766Russia is 50 times the shithole you fled from pidor xDOh noes it has a forgotten cemetery
>>540950811There is nothing wrong with natural vegetation. I'd prefer my grave to be overgrown with wild plants, I think. Maybe the flowers will grow better because of my seeping corpse juice.
>>540953615bot or just genuinely retarded?lmao
>>540950766>>540950803>>540950875>This massive cemetery is not daily mowed even though it seems to be made of tightly packed concrete dividers (yet still tastefully decorated and maintained>this tiny memorial cemetery in the city churchyard is well maintainedthanks anon this is a great threat, i thanks to you i now know putler is bad
>>540953530again, you're ignoring or missing the point. the big political cemetery is cared for. but why is no one taking care of the small, personal cemetery for russian dead ? because the state can't use them for propaganda ?
>>540950613You respect the dead by finishing the mission. How many of these died for a cause that has since been walked back on, reversed, made pointless? The fancy graves are a trick so it's not so blindly obvious how many of them died pointlessly. Ask any one of them if they want the mission finished, the cause won, the sacrifice worth it or a fancy grave and they'll choose the first every time. And yet it's always back peddling, wasted lives, pointless sacrifices, the fancy graves are sweetener on the wasted lives they hold.
>>540952921>>540953122>>540953336This is much better than what you bother to do for the 95% of your dead, yet it still feels cheap and tacky. The monuments seem like they are glorifying the war instead of respecting the memory of the fallen. More so these graves are for the lucky few that you bothered to bring back from the front, probably some relatives of the elite political class that are afforded special treatment due to their connections. The rest are forgotten in fields of weeds and mud even in your own graveyards.
>>540953869>why is no one taking care of the small, personal cemetery for russian deadthey dont because finnoid posted a bumfuck nowhere graveyard from chuvashia? Or because he posted a newly erected one in outskirts of the city and decided it would be ok to compare it to a political one?>because the state can't use them for propaganda ? Cherrypicking photos to make a dumb point doesnt magically prove it right.
>>540953122I’m not speaking of gravetending of Russia, just those sad cases of warriors whose resting places have been allowed to fall into disrepair. It’s depressing to witness. I come from a longtime military family, so it’s something somewhat dear to me.
>>540953765Ok. Here is a pic of our largest cemetery, Honkanummi, which measures 76 hectares. I can also post a pic of the Malmi cemetery which is our largest by populationOutside of the Kremlin, the best that Russia does for their own is worse than the worst that we do for our own. This should tell you something about the nature of these people.
>>540953952no its just that you are cretin that tries to prove a retarded point to fit your worldview. Todays cope is:Russians don respect their deadoh wait? countless monuments over regular and mass graves across the country? Nah its ugly because i said so
>>540953881I'm not religious, but if I were I don't think that our fallen war heroes would not be grateful at us honoring their memory and sacrifices by maintaining their graves instead of dumping them in fields like garbage never to even visit their graves.
>>540954458Malmi cemetery
>>540954486Why are they in mass graves? You outnumbered us 3 to 1 in the wars and had much better equipment and much more supplies, yet we still managed to get 90% of our own back here to their individual graves.It's not that you didn't have the ability to do this yourself but that you chose not to. That speaks about the values and the mentality of your people along with how cynically you now treat them. It's very strange when one looks at your rhetoric. If one were to only listen to you then you would be the most trad, moral and righteous people on the planet yet your actions do not reflect this. To your people it only matters what is said, what is the current party line.
>>540950613Wow you right, I am now convinced that blowing up wildberries warehouses is the winning strategy which will push back the Russian army out of all conquered territory and will ultimately destroy Russia and grant Ukraine victory, thanks
>>540955165Nothing to do with it, though Ukraine making ordinary russians pay for their actions forces them to reconsider them.I'm actually pessimistic about Ukraine winning the war because if Putin decides to enact a large scale mobilization of mobiks Ukraine simply doesn't have enough men to hold the lines, which could result in something like a repeat of operation Bagration. The only reason why he hasn't done this already is because he fears that it would result in mutinies and coups like we saw with wagnerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCGp5iw1CjU
>>540954886>Why are they in mass graves? You outnumbered us 3 to 1 in the wars and had much better equipment and much more supplies, yet we still managed to get 90% of our own back here to their individual graves.Counting whatever pocket army you had that only fought along the gulf of Finland and counting soviet casualties which involved millions upon millions of civilians and soldiers whom of which fought on a thousand wide km front ranging from Berlin to Moscow does certainly reflect the values uh-huh. You do know you sound retarded when you do this comparission? Even moreso when you project your one-sided view on top of it
Dead soldiers of the Russian empire and Soviet union are better taken care of having died here than in Russia!
>>540955593>Nothing to do with it, though ukraine making ordinary Russians pay for their actions forces them to reconsider them.this will literally never ever fucking happen you idiot jew niggernot everRussia isnt going to "end the war" or throw its hands up in the air and just leave because some faggot terror bombing london is fueling in Russiaits never going to happenyou nafo niggers are never going to make the Russian people 'revolt" against Putin because of anything happening in this warits imossibleits absolutely unreal you faggots think this is a possibility still
>>540955872This would be decent cope if you counted from 1941 onward yet you had the same mentality during the winter war. Back then you only had to contend with us and some scattered cells of Baltic and polish insurgents. You were best buddies with Hitler back then.
>>540955964>Russia isnt going to "end the war" or throw its hands up in the air and just leave because some faggot terror bombing london is fueling in Russiaits never going to happenThen so be it. From our perspective an imperialistic and powerful Russia will remain a constant threat so either they change their outlook or we continue attritioning them for perpetuity. It's much cheaper for us to give Ukraine money to blow them up than it is for us to develop our own ballistic missiles and other weapons to a point where they don't want to invade us. With Russian demographic being what they are we might as well perpetuate the war until they no longer have any young people to throw at us or at the Baltics or at Poland.
>>540956054>same mentality during the winter warah so it was a cope about that all along. Should ve fucking known kek. So your best bet is bring up the dead from 80 years ago because you still butthurt your nations of inbreds havent achieved anything besides cool looking pictures of the memorials to the fallen soldiers in the 100 years or so of independence?
>>540953430How do you think they feed their military?
>>540956366lmao you faggot absolute kike jew nigger nato cum rags are not in control of the escalation ladderyou have absolutely zero power to strong-arm Russias behavior, change it or shape it. you are not attritting Russia at all, and each day its production capacity and industrial capacity grows larger and larger, more distributed, hardened and elastic, while each day nato gets weaker, weaker and weaker in every imaginable way, by every imaginable metricevery single smug short-sighted attack you niggers perpetrate on behalf of london is another nail in the coffin your future now lives inRussia has lost virtually no one in the grand scheeme of things, and could prosecute this war untill your pissant pathetic nations collapse from your eu-cunt woman politics and immigration policyholy shit, the absolute insufferable smug delusion of your nafo nigger trash is unrealthe fact you think (you) control the escalation game is unreal, truly
>>540956575Why not just engage with the subject honestly instead of trying to derail it? I already gave ground Bulgarian or "Bulgarian" anon because I'm not subject to this football mentality where my side can't be wrong about anything and the other side has to be wrong about everything regardless of actual objective reality.
>>540950613Everything green will die in winter and get crushed by snow. I'm guessing there's zero maintenance needed.
>>540956800I'm genuinely interested in what makes you think this? How can Russia be in a stronger position than European NATO when only one side of this conflict is having it's infrastructure destroyed (aside from rare sabotage attacks such at with the Italian munitions plant)
>>540950613If Russians didn't respect their dead, you wouldn't do too much stress on dead Russians and the Kiev's regimes' inflated numbers when you talk to Russians. The real question why you never count and omit mentioning the Kiev's regime casualties as if those people never existed and their lives were nothing but disposable trash for TZD.
>>540956814>trying to derail ityou went from>>540950613>coping that Russia has no respect for their dead and dont tend their graveyardsto>>540953952>Russians do respect them but its all ugly and akshually not respectto>>540954886>Coping about the existence of the mass graves in ww2to>>540956054>coping about the winter war and Molotov-Ribbentrop pactbut yes its me derailing the topic here. Hey atleast not all finnish people are dumb like you are. God knows i had talked to few of them on my frequent trips to Helsinki.
>>540957093In your own words:>countless monuments over regular and mass graves across the country?>>Coping about the existence of the mass graves in ww2What is the point in trying to lie like this when it's so obvious? We don't care about vranyo here. We can say whatever we want even if it's not the "official truth" that is expected of us. You aren't even signalling to your own side since this is an "anonymous" forum
>>540956943Russian infrastructure is not being destroyed in any meaningful capacity period, which is why their ballistic missile and Drone attacks multiply by orders of magnitude while nato is in a hysterical scramble to cobble together even a few dozen air defense missiles that have essentially decade+ lead timesyoure fucking insane you nafo nigger"european nato" essentially doesnt exist, and what does 'exist' is on paper only.european nato has absolutely zero industry and wont have industry ever again, and even if it tried, its DECADES away from any meaningful productionthis idea you are inflicting actual damage on Russia is absurd as it is absolute horesshit.the moment any one of you nafo bitches started doing meaningful damage, zircons would start raining down Iran-style on your infrastructre, you would be fucking literally powerless to stop itnone of you have anything anymoreits all gone to ukraine where Russia vaporized it or israel, where Iran vaporized itits all goneall of iteverything you pathetic losers had was yanked out of your hands, sent somewhere else and turned to ashI truly hope Russia comes for you fuckers and teaches you the lessons you deserve so fucking hard its unreal>pic relatedall that 'garage sale junk' you didnt even want anyway.....best part is....all the shiny new nextgen+ stuff you were supposed to have to replace it never got made (not even the plans for it) and now youre in deep deep dogshit picking fights you have zero chance of winning :(
>>540950958this is a proper cemetery, what is the problem? Should they open a McDonalds there?
>>540957023The sad part about Ukraine is that they are actually very similar to you. Corruption and lies are rampant and high generals sacrifice their own with little thought because of ego and personal gain. Their cemeteries are just as shitty as your own. Yet at least they try to rise above this unlike you
>>540950613>Your mortal body is in the ground feeding it your now obsolete flesh for which there is no more purpose.>Nature claims the land and grows around you.>Your body is now part of the land and thereby your physical essence continues.>Your spirit and its immortal glorious body is now in the unending ever expanding heavens where you were before you were born and God willing with all those you lost in life.What's wrong with that? That's really nice having so much abundant life around the dead.
>>540957283>here is me trying to derail it again!>i m so free and smart unlike this russkiy vranyo!goldfish memory at this point. Seething at Russia really does cause brain damage
>>540957399This is hard to read with you being so overtly emotional, but can you at least admit that the US has pretty much ceased their support for Ukraine as of the past year?If we are so weak, and with Ukraine thus being completely reliant on us to stay existing, then how can they still exist after 5 years of war?
they don't even respect each other while alive, Why would you expect them to do it in their death?They are not human, don't try to give human traits to beasts
>>540957540You just said that you like taking it up the ass. Why play these games when honest argument would be more interesting and fun, even if we disagree and hate each other?
>>540950972damn
>>540957550>but can you at least admit that the US has pretty much ceased their support for ukraine as of the past year?no, untill the satellite intelligence gets shut completely off like it was before feb 22 or after zelensky's white house debacle, then all meaningful US support is exactly the same as its always beenwithout this satellite intelligence, ukraine is routed instantaneously as was proven on Feb22 and March 2025>>540957550>If we are so weak, and with Ukraine thus being completely reliant on us to stay existing, then how can they still exist after 5 years of war?a 45+ nation coalition threw the combined GDP of europe at ukraine for 5 years (and counting) and 50+ years of nato acquisitions, of which are nearly totally gone now for real by the state of ukraines air defensethe funniest part is now ukraine, fighting this totally lost forlorn war they have absolutely no hope in hell of winning, will harp, scream, threaten and strong arm you pussies for the dead-last hold out arms you have left for yourselveslmao, watching ukraine nigger fuck poland, finland and probably germany for the last patriot missiles on continental europe is going to be hilariousand in the end, nothing will ever be enough for ukraine, and they will (like the nigger dog they are) turn on all of you in the very end for not giving them (insert whatever they are demanding) instantaneously and without lip, the first time they asked, which caused them to *lose* in the endlmao, by the time this war is over, mark my words, ukraine will be blaming each and everyone of you euro niggers for this war and its consequences and like the niggers ukraine is, all the handouts it got will be completely forgotten because in whatever instant-moment ukraine is in at that time, will be the past-present-and-future all at once, and nothing you did in the past for it will countcant wait to watch it all happen either
>>540957607I would respect them more if they weren't so disingenuous. It's like honesty and openness are completely foreign to their culture and when someone else "falls" to them they see it as vulnerability, a naive lapse to be frowned upon.I suppose we Finns hate them so much because we see honesty as the highest virtue. When one suffers from honesty we see this as something to be proud of instead of this india thing where saving face means everything
>>540957718>like taking it up the assbut enough about you nafo faggot troon
>>540957896>I suppose we Finns hate them so much because we see honesty as the highest virtue.^webm related, lmao literally (YOU)
>>540957893>no, untill the satellite intelligence gets shut completely off like it was before feb 22 or after zelensky's white house debacle, then all meaningful US support is exactly the same as its always beenwithout this satellite intelligence, ukraine is routed instantaneously as was proven on Feb22 and March 2025What about our own sar spy satellites that we gave for Ukraine to use against Russia? Do you think the US is the only country with this tech?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm17N81fIeM>a 45+ nation coalition threw the combined GDP of europe at ukraine for 5 years (and counting) and 50+ years of nato acquisitions, of which are nearly totally gone now for real by the state of ukraines air defenseYou pretend as if EU-NATO didn't practically disarm itself after the USSR fell. In Finland we were buying dutch MLRSs for pennies along with plenty of other equipment back then and in the 00s.And like I said I believe that Ukraine might very well lose this if Russia mobilizes. If they don't then the current stalemate might very well continue for 5 more years. Ukraine and Russia would suffer from it greatly and it would probably destroy both of them.
They have tables and chairs to drink to their health and hang out
>>540958006Yes those are the Israelis, your greatest allies. I'd imagine that if you weren't their dog our soldiers would have shot that jew
>>540957934>nafo faggot troonWhy do you say this when it's Russia and the US army that have problems with sodomy? The US army even has (or had) tranny generals
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>>540950766>31 out of 76 posts by this IDYou're gonna get deported lol
>>540950613that actually looks pretty cool. i'd rather be buried there than in some sanitized well-maintained *lawn*
>>540953430Hmm that's a good point. China is going to have to have a really big and successful war soon if they want to truly upgrade to world superpower status. As it stands now they do parades and try and act tough but their whole military is untested in real world warfare.
