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If there is no grounded explanation for what is gained by atleast one group for pushing a conspiracy then it fails the first line of defense basic human evolution has given us and is immediately confirmed bullshit

So if you actually believe any consirpacy theories, state to me WHY
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>>540951745
WHY
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>>540951847
lol'd
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>>540951745
Flat earth is real prove it aint you cant
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDiYaPVwkgo
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>>540951745
I don't believe in evolution. Once you start looking closer, the myth that it is possible disappears.
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I also believe that yahweh, the "god" of the old testament, is actually satan.

Compare this image (OT) with the next (NT):
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More evidence
https://xenosarc.substack.com/p/yahweh-the-god-of-the-old-testament
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>>540952197
Midwit take
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>>540951745
>basic human evolution has given
NGMI
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>>540951930
Who gains anything from this expensive lie?
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>>540951745
There is a motive for pushing a conspiracy
If there is a group of people who trust you and are somewhat detached from other groups, then you can easily market and sell stuff to them
could be merch, could be access to your flat earth forums, could be antisphere pills
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>>540951897
Flat earth comes from the bible which uses the body as a metaphor for the cosmos. There ya go.
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>>540952479
That's ai slop and not biblical
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>>540951745
When the spinning ball-Earth is finally exposed worldwide for the 400+ year deception it was, Earth's entire population will suddenly be faced with the reality that every government, every space agency, university, secret society, religious organization, mainstream and alternative media outlet have ALL been duplicitous in propping up a monstrous manipulation to fleece and control the masses. The resulting mass mental exodus away from the control system is exactly what humanity needs. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these lying politicians, spokesmen, reporters and teachers suddenly change from being heralded voices of authority to being ridiculed, shunned and denounced as they deserve. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these governments, universities, media outlets and other entangled organizations which have long been hard at work weaving this multi-generational ball-Earth myth, suddenly and completely lose all credibility. Once the truth of our flat Earth gets out, so does the truth of these few elite families/societies who have kept this most important and fundamental reality from us for these hundreds of years! Essentially, once the flat Earth truth gets out, so does every other important truth by proxy, because this "mother-of-all-conspiracies" holds under its umbrella literally ALL of the other conspiracies, and exposes them.
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>>540952533
This is.
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>>540952469
Who else...
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>>540952070
you just don't understand it. there are retards who think evolution has purpose and an intelligence behind it and then there are white people with white brains who know it's just a game of chance and it's illogical to think that mutations can't sometimes give an advantage that makes them necessary.

the problem is you think evolution starts with a goal in mind and that's what makes you retarded. the smart, white germans left in the 50s, the ones that weren't exactly white/homo sapiens larp as germans and say retard shit between sexual deviation sessions
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>>540952533
It's all symbols. Words are translation of experience. You do know what is a map?
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It's been here longer than jesus
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Jesus just walks it into the flesh so we could learn to be nice to each other before we could learn to be nice to ourselves.
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It's always been inside. And outside. It's complicated but through darkness comes light. Scales all the way through.
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>>540952641
You should research the likelihood of getting functional proteins by random amino acid combination (yes, if evolution were true then the creation processes are random at least for orphan genes).

Evolution is an explanation that makes sense if you never bother looking deeper. But the details reveal it is not feasible. Otherwise you wouldn't need cope explanations like "punctuated equilibrium".
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>>540952469
NASA and Friends. Everyone who makes there "materials".
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>>540952641
>you think evolution starts with a goal in mind and that's what makes you retarded
Oh come on, there's a lot of reasons why that kraut is retarded
It's not fair to pick out any single one as the reason why
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>>540951745
yes
here it is
this is a depiction of your horizon
your mental capabilities are unable to comprehend three dimensional space
that is all
thank you for your attention to this matter
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>>540954349
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The moon is a reflection in the dome. It reflects the flat plane below.
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>>540951930
>science is a psyop
What the hell does this even mean? Science represents the observations of the natural world. Do your own eyes psyop you?
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Is that picture a depiction of what flat earth is supposed to look like? There's clearly a bottom that you can just dig down to. Also, let's pretend flat earth is true. Now what? Also God isn't real but neither is evolution. Now what? It's all horse hockey!
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Einstein himself said you can't prove the heliocentric model. It's all just belief. Look it up. You can't prove heliocentrism over geocentrism.
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>Einstein himself said you can't prove the heliocentric model
No he didn't
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> the motion of the Earth cannot be detected by any optical experiment
> cannot be detected by ANY optical experiment

So there you have it. All you people who refer to authority figures and "scientists" when you're claiming the earth is a spinning ball going around the sun. You cannot prove that. Nobody has as it cannot be done (because it's still).
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>>540952479
actually tons of civilizations all came to the same conclusion, that's why the ptolemy model reigned for 1600+ years, way longer than the globe model has existed by the way. not to mention that the globe model was schemed up by 5 freemasons (galileo, newton, copernicus, newton and euler) from the vatican church (the most corrupt organization in the world)

the reason ALL peasants and ALL kings believed they were on a flat motionless earth is because they were outside all the time at night with no light pollution, they could clearly see the stars and they were more in tune with the earth, which is our home that basically the average person today knows nothing about

how old were you when you found out that we have a star that never moves on earth? polaris, our north star?

how old were you when you were taught that the constellations have never changed over time? our stars never change, when you look up at the sky at night you're just looking at the center of a clock. its does one spin every 24 hours. the sun and moon are just lights in the sky to help you tell the time of day or time of night. the moon is clearly not a 3d rotating sphere in "outer space" but a cold plasma light that emits its own silver cold glow. the sun is hot and local, you can feel it because its right there. when the sun hides behind a cloud, its less warm, when its seeing you, its hot. because its right there, the sun is literally a hot ball of fire flying over your head that burns you if you get too close. its not 92 million miles away, its right there

anyway, basically there's no actual proof you're flying through infinite nothingness on a wobbling tilted space ball. you cant look through a telescope and find out what happened 14 billion years ago. they want you to think the universe exists because of a big bang where nothingness compressed and exploded into everything. they want you to be a godless ape that evolved from a slime, instead of knowing your true nature
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>>540952469
a man is nothing but his will, if he thinks he's just a random accident on a meaningless floating ball among trillions others, he has no will, if he realizes he's part of a realm and it belongs to him, and there are others to find and explore, now he has a will, a purpose.
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>First claim
Einstein himself said you can't prove the heliocentric model
>New claim
the motion of the Earth cannot be detected by any optical experiment

Also, nice job cutting off the end of the quote
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>>540952641
there is no evidence that one species can change from another. the purpose of selling the evolution lie is to try to trick people that all common life was not intelligently designed, but it evolved due to pure chaos and RNG and that our ancestor was basically a slime that kept mutating.

there is ZERO evidence that one species can change into another aka a squirrel that will develop gills to swim underwater or a fish that comes out of the ocean with lungs etc yet apparently that must have happened tons of times already because evolution is supposed to be happening around us 24/7

not to mention evolutionists are tied to darwinists and he was a freemason, its just another pointless lie

they want you to believe you evolved from an ape, that you're a monkey born to die for no reason. when in reality you were intelligently designed by a creator. random evolution would never just work that way

its like walking by a nicely built house and thinking "wow, the wind must have gone through some lumber and put this house here". the house obviously required a designer to put it there which you can marvel at and appreciate. the human body and this very creation is the same thing

evolutionism is basically just one of the many ways they encourage you to become nihilistic, godless, and agnostic/atheist
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>>540956952
The full quote here:
> Soon I came to the conclusion that our idea about the motion of the Earth with respect to the ether is incorrect, if we admit Michelson's null result as a fact. This was the first path which led me to the special theory of relativity. Since then I have come to believe that the motion of the Earth cannot be detected by any optical experiment, though the Earth is revolving around the Sun.

What happened was that the Michelson-Morley experiment proved that the earth is stationary. Einstein found this perculiar and "horrible" (his own word), and therefore invented the "theory of relativity" to have an explanation for why the Michelson-Morley experiment failed to prove movement.

But the theory of relativity was always just a theory and has never been proven. The simple explanation is the earth is flat and stationary, and the sun and moon and stars revolve around us.
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>always just a theory
You're just hitting all of the science retardation talking points, aren't you?
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>>540952469
its the adult version of santa clause. if NASA was able to pull off such a crazy hoax in front of the entire world, and then keep the lie in place for 60 years, what does that say about the control of information we receive? what does that say about the media, the scientific community, the educational community, and all the other institutions we depend on to tell us the truth? what does that say about the very nature of the world we live in?

expensive lie? what is "expensive"? they print money out of thin air. something that is "expensive" to you is meaningless to them, they create the money you compete for to survive. they just print it out of thin air.

its not about money, its about wasting YOUR money into a fake bullshit worldview that doesnt exist. NASA gets $70,000,000 every single day, week, month, year. i guarantee you that you, me, and everyone in this thread reading this doesnt have that net worth combined and wont for our entire lifetimes. and NASA gets it every single day. and thats a small amount of the money they are wasting. and its not just america. its all the countries. if your country has a centralized banking system, its owned by the bankers. the same freemasons that own the banks are the owns behind the space lie

you're seriously just not being creative enough. "why would evil villains want to be able to brainwash the entire world?" are you serious?

ill tell you the answer though - for one they tell you that you live on "google earth" when you dont, they could be hiding land from you, you have no idea what the shape of this realm truly is, the "pictures from space" come from lying governments and you cant independently verify them for yourself. so they could be hiding resources and land from us while making us compete

but most importantly they want you to think earth is just one "planet" among countless other "planets" and we are insignificant. its called the copernican principle from the freemason copernicus
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Hi /bant/ in advance
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>>540957246
How do yo uthink the "likelihood of the formation of life from inanimate matter" could be calculated? Where would the numbers come from? Has it occurred to you this is just talking out the ass?
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>>540957193
>nice job cutting off the end of the quote
I explain in my previous post. But this sentence at the end is just his subjective feeling/wish. It's like in those IQ studies on African countries where they all end with: "Even though there is a 30 IQ point discrepancy between Africans and Europeans, this has of course nothing to do with genetics but only socioeconomics."

That sentence (whether it's said in an IQ study or by Einstein talking about heliocentrism) means nothing.
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>>540957504
The jannies have been pretty good about cleaning up the horseshit recently, but this one is being let stay up for some reason
I figure it has to do with the maintenance this afternoon
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>>540955854
it seems pretty convincing but near australia there is a huge amount of missing land, perhaps you could argue it was flooded or something. but then that means it was once a map of this realm, but this place has since changed. i would be willing to consider that more seriously

the moon in my opinion is just part of the clock in the sky, it tells you the time of the month over a 28 day cycle. there are 13 lunar cycles within 1 solar cycle and then the seasons repeat. earth is on a cycle and telling you its time. the same stars spin over your head every single night. polaris is the motionless center of the clock (and the universe) and its above the motionless center of our flat earth. because you're obviously in an intelligently designed godly clock

and it also functions as a map already because if you know your relation relative to the motionless star polaris, you would know exactly where you are on this realm if you knew the time of night. and of course you always would know the time of the night if the moon was up, because this places clock is super intuitive. midday = sun above your head, mid night = moon above your head. everything else is just manmade bullshit to distance us from reality
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>if you know your relation relative to the motionless star polaris
Polaris is not motionless nor is it directly over the rotational pole
Polaris is also not visible from the Southern Hemisphere - on your pizza world, why is that?
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>>540957612
>mid night = moon above your head
Why are you talking about this when it is so clear you don't know about this?
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>>540957423
It's also about making people worship the sun, by making them think it's bigger than earth and that we are orbiting it. Sun worshipping is old school satanism. This in combo with mass scale child sacrifice (abortions) are the main ways they counter the Gods and lower their influence and power.
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>>540956952
>>540957341
nobody should even give a shit what einstein has to say, the germans were way more advanced than western physics and its because they rejected jewish einstein and his idea of relativity. by the way, he literally stole the framework of relativity from the lorentz equation which had an electrical background medium. ALL german scientists knew about electrical field theory and you can explain all things like "gravity" and why things go up/down using an electric background medium and its something we can prove and test. theres even a book called 100 german scientists against einstein you can read it for free online (its in german but its decently translated)

einstein was offered to be president of israel and he was just a jewish fraud, he was a known retard by the germans who kicked him out from the scientific community but unfortunately the jews own the educaitonal and scientific community as well as the media, so they have propagandized the world into thinking einstein and his relativity is some work of genius

nikola tesla could not stand einstein. in fact, he called him an old crank. he gave a scathing analysis of einstein's relativity theory, calling it "a magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles, and makes people blind to the underlying errors. the theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king." he said this in 1935

and tesla was an actual genius, you see the germans knew you could tap into the natural electricity of this place. you might not realize it but there's electricity all around you. just think of things like thunderstorms etc, why does electricity crash down on earth? the earth has an electric field and it is constantly giving off energy and needs to discharge it sometimes. its like a battery that has too much power to offer us and it needs to waste its extra charge into things like thunderstorms. but you could easily harness it for wireless free electricity. tesla knew this
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>>540957510
yeah i mean why do you even think something like abiogenesis is even possible? it exists as an idea in your mind. its never been demonstrated. the idea that life came from non-life in the first place is yet to be proven. it makes much more sense everything on earth was intelligently designed. earth is a place made for humans to thrive. the human body is an invention for our soul to pilot for a few decades. and everyone human needs to eat, so food grows out of the dirt for free. and every human needs to drink, so water falls from the sky for free. this place was clearly made for us. the idea that this all exists due to nothingness and RNG and change is literally just retarded at its face
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>>540957996
>all those words
>no answer to my question
A real man would just admit he has no clue how "likelihood of the formation of life from inanimate matter" could be calculated.
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>>540951745
How much mass do you need to get water to curve round a ball ?
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>intelligently designed
So intelligently designed that a giraffe's nerve goes from its brain, loops around the aorta, and then goes back to the larynx
Oh, and humans have the same nerve route
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>>540957715
yes of course, there is clearly a sun-god cult on earth and their symbolism is everywhere from the jesuits to the masons etc, all of course referencing lucifer "the light-bringer". even things like the statue of liberty are just blatant satan worship

the masons even openly admit it themselves that they worship satan. but honestly its more of a sex/fertility cult where they basically have enslaved humanity and they prey upon us. endless child sacrifice, endless human sacrifice (endless war etc). nonstop brainwashing, the corruption of children - any child exposed to a phone or an ipad or technology will be exposed to porn soon after. this is inevitable and intentionally designed to corrupt the youth and pervert society etc. technology is basically one big control tool and while it can be really useful, its unfortunately controlled by these same satanic forces
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>>540957908
>nobody should even give a shit what einstein has to say
I agree. I'm just using him as an example as globers and heliocentrists love referring to him or other (((famous scientists))) to claim their fantasy is real. None of them have any proof. Only appeal to authority. Now I'm showing them that even the most famous and influential authority in Western society actually doesn't say what they had come to believe he had said. And he actually admits you cannot prove or measure that the Earth or spinning or moving.
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>>540958061
it depends on the phase of the moon you are on, the moon is on its own 28 day cycle that you need to track independently from the sun cycle. they eventually coincide once every 28 days and re-sync after 13 lunar cycles

so yeah i know what you mean i mean sometimes the sun and moon are near eachother at the same time but the moon is on its own cycle. after the moon has passed you head 28 * 13 times, the sun cycle / seasons will repeat
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>>540958264
>it depends on the phase of the moon
If you knew that, why did you claim midnight = moon directly overhead? It's obvious you did not know and now you've looked it up.
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>>540958179
"the sun is at rest and the earth moves" or "the sun moves and the earth is at rest" would simply mean two different conventions concerning two different coordinate systems - albert einstein, einstein and infeld, the evolution of physics, 1938 ED P. 248

we know that the difference between a heliocentric theory and a geocentric theory is one of relative motion only, and that such a difference has no physical signifiance - astronomer fred hoyle (astronomy and cosmology - a modern course (san francisco: W.H. Freeman & co, 1975) P. 416

(thats the guy who coined the term "big bang lol")

"so which is real, the ptolemaic or copernican system? although it is not uncommon for people to say that copernicus proved ptolemy wrong, that is not true... one can use either picture as a model of the universe, for our observations of the heavens can be explained by assuming either the earth OR the sun to be at rest - stephen hawking 2008

basically all physics agrees that the ptolemaic model and the heliocentric model are equivalent. which is very important information that most people dont understand.

yea yea i know its aislop im just saying this is openly know and even the mainstream agrees with me. YOU CAN STILL ASSUME EARTH IS COMPLETELY MOTIONLESS AND DOES NOT MOVE and accurately know the day/night times, seasons, when the next eclipses are gonna be, precisely when the seasons will change, etc. THE SKY DOES THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER. the ptolemaic model was used for 1600+ years because its so intuitive and obvious
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>>540958369
no its just that i meant every time the moon is overhead is mid-mooncycle, either way you are zooming in way too much on 1 tiny detail instead of trying to even remotely address anything else i said lol. the moon is obviously a light in the sky, a cold light by the way, provably and measurably
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>>540958369
>It's obvious you did not know and now you've looked it up.
I swear, one common theme among flat earthers is that they have never looked up at the sky, ever
He probably also thinks the sun is directly overhead when he lives outside the tropics

Also, he refuses to answer your question about the probability space of abiogenesis
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>>540951745
Flat earth is not a conspiracy...Think crimes only, then you will be on the right track to what a conspiracy means..
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>>540958477
>the moon is obviously a light in the sky, a cold light by the way, provably and measurably
Great!
Let's see those measurements!
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>>540958502
lol its by looking at the sky that every peasant to king could easily intuit for themselves that they are on the motionless center of the universe and the sky doesn't change over time. thats how they knew this place is special

and abiogenesis is a concept yet to be proven similar to dark matter and dark energy which makes up 96% of the known universe in your made up heliocentric model btw lol
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>>540958568
i literally showed you how you can measure the temperature of the moon, the webm shows it clearly. anywhere the moon shines is colder, and anything thats hiding from the moon is warmer. its the opposite of the sun, the moon is not reflecting sunlight like the heliocentric model teaches, because sunlight is hot. the moon is a cold plasma light. you are asking for "meaurements" and expecting i can go up there with a ruler, but what i mean is temperature measurements. the moon is not a 3d sphere orb floating in "outer space". why dont YOU show me YOUR independent evidence of that?
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>>540958120
Water isn't curving, its not a singular object its many little bits of water that all are being pulled to the centre and coming to rest at the lowest point they can
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>>540958502
I begin to suspect he puts on an act for amusement's sake
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>>540958707
exactly, and another core principle of water is that it always seeks to find its own level.. water line are always flat - in a bathtub, waterbottle, lake and even when we look out into the ocean. our oceans are clearly secured within a container with a flat water line we can see for ourselves
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>how you can measure the temperature of the moon
You showed that dirt between trees has a different temperature than dirt near a tree trunk, where there would be a root structure that would hold heat differently
As usual, the flat earther takes bad measurements without accounting for confounding variables, and then draws incorrect conclusions from them
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>>540958823
no
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>>540958884
lol its something you can easily test for yourself tonight if you have a laser temp thermometer that you would use for a barbecue etc. moonlight is obviously cold, there's nothing to even discuss if you've gone out to measure it. you can feel it on your skin too, you're more warm in moonshade
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Sure looks like the same proportions of the ship are visible at different zooms
First Law of Flerf: Flerf citations always contradict the flerf’s claim. No exceptions
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You have to believe my space fantasies waaaaa!
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>water line are always flat
Explain tides
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>>540958403
Great quotes. Thanks for sharing your wisdom in this thread. Those who are open minded enough will see the truth eventually.

> YOU CAN STILL ASSUME EARTH IS COMPLETELY MOTIONLESS AND DOES NOT MOVE
This is the most important point to realize because all the glober objections stem from a POV of where all "settled science" regarding the earth stars and space (and whatever else related to it, like airplane travel and navigation systems) needs "spinning ball science" to work. They don't. In fact they all work just as well or better on a stationary flat plane. NASA themselves have all their engineers assume a stationary earth, as per internal documents.
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>>540958823
Simple diagram of globe + gravity pulling water to its surface for your consideration
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>>540959007
>Sure looks like the same proportions of the ship are visible at different zooms
Also, zooming has never "brought back" a ship that has disappeared bottom-up
Here is a video that shows the proportion of each ship remains the same as the camera zooms in
No amount of zoom will let you see the bottom of the ship - it's simple geometry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSMRhTPMSfk
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>>540959055
the bottom of the ocean is flat too and earth is essentially "breathing", water gets absorbed deep at the bottom of the ocean and it gets redistributed up the roots of plants deep in the earth. this is how things like waterfalls and trees never run out of water and life can be guaranteed here on this intelligently designed realm

the heliocentric explanation of the tides and "tidal locking" is pure fanfic and retarded and yet to be proven. tides ONLY affect oceans but not lakes or bathtubs or water bottles? ok bro lol
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>>540959123
cool jpeg bro what evidence do you have that the ground under your feet curves across any distance though?
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>>540952469
Glowniggers trot it out to poison the well every time the public gets close to a real conspiracy.
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>>540959140
yea duh i mean if there's a 5 foot wave between you on the ship you are not gonna see the bottom 5 feet of the ship, the important detail is that the ship is supposed to have sailed beyond the PHYSICAL HORIZON OF EARTH at 3 miles away from a viewer at a 6ft elevation - this is the rate earth MUST CONSISTENTLY CURVE AT in order to be a 3959 mile radius sphere (which is required in their math for allegedly having gone to space lol)

but we are able to zoom in on ships that are 30+ mile away. the reason for your pic and the bottoms of the building being obscured is due to a massive difference in temperature from the air and the water level, causing high levels of refraction similar to my posted webm
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>>540951745
Why? Because I value truth far more than I value (((conformity of opinion))).
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>>540959174
I'm just trying to explain how water would curve on a globe with gravity. People use that as an argument against it ie "water can't curve" or whatever. But on a globe with gravity thats what would happen, so that by itself is not proff that its not possible. You get me?
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>>540951745
clearly you're suffering from cognitive dissonance if you went as far as creating this faggy thread. you don't see me making globie threads because I don't give a shit about globies since I know earth is flat. I'll wait on you to provide a single experiment that one can perform with common tools that will prove earth being a sphere. you won't, you can't, do a flip faggot after murdering your family first
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>>540959309
Prove gravity and how it can make water curve around a ball. If it's real then someone must've made an experiment proving it, right?
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>>540957704
>Polaris is not motionless nor is it directly over the rotational pole
>Polaris is also not visible from the Southern Hemisphere
prove these points, tranny. you can't. just because you claim to be a woman because you tuck your dick in doesn't mean you are a woman. now KYS
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>>540957715
found a jew. look at this fucking kike trying to claim Sun worship is Satanic when everyone knows Venus worship that kikes do is satanic. neck yourself, tranny, but murder your family first
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>>540959486
I'm not trying to prove it, I'm trying to explain that IF we were on a globe with gravity, thats how water would act. SO the argument of "water can't curve" is not useful. Individual particles of water will be acted upon individually, with the overall surface appearing to curve around the globe on the grand scale
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>>540955968
That's what people said while pushing man made climate change, transgenderism, and the vax. Unfortunately, it's obvious that people use the word science simply to silence any skepticism while lying to you.
You should expect this in everything that is supposed to be beyond reproof. If it's blindly trusted then it will be corrupted if it hasn't been already.
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>>540959631
how come you don't feel gravity standing next to a giant building or a mountain? how big of a mass one needs before gravity is detectable and affects nearby objects? why don't you ask your globie jewai those questions and repsond back. if any of this gravity bullshit was real you'd be able to walk up the skyscraper on the outside of the building like gecko can go up the walls
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>>540959631
If, perhaps, maybe... Until anyone has shown it happening it in the real world then it should not be considered. Anyone can make up a theory about anything. Who cares.
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>how come you don't feel gravity standing next to a giant building or a mountain
Because the difference is too small for a human to detect
The difference is measurable, though, and it has been repeated many times
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schiehallion_experiment#Repeat_experiments
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>>540959924
sure thing, tranny, how about that giant mountain every homo likes to climb, how come no gravity pull from mountani is felt at the peak or the base?
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>>540959793
The gravity of the whole earth is acting on you al the time, so the presence of a large building would not be any noticeable difference. Once again, I am not trying to prove anything here, just trying to simply explain the concepts
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>>540959924
Over 60% of experiments with statistically signifant results (which this experiment clearly did NOT have btw), cannot be replicated on a separate occasion. Just fyi. 0.003 degrees is not a real result that actually means anything.
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>how come no gravity pull from mountani is felt at the peak or the base
It changes, exactly as predicted by science
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>>540959746
So like the Bible?
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>>540960044
bwahahahahah imagine believing it. prove to me gravity exists. you can't! I can easily prove density exists or even static electricity
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>>540959918
IMAGINE a large globe with something called gravity, Its effect is to pull everyhting towards the center. Individual particles of water would move to the surface of the globe, and stay, there, creating a layer around the globe. IF the premise is true, then that IS for a fact how water would act. Its a simple inference.
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Where the fuck are the jannies today?
Did the downtime break their moderation tools or something?
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>>540960130
TRUST ME, BRO! here is a screenshot
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>>540960203
earth and moon and every other planet supposedly have gravity yet never pulled toward each other and just happen to maintain perfect orbit, meanwhile SCIENCE says that sun holds pluto in orbit but can't yank the moon away from earth, on top of that same SIENCE trannies tell us that moon is moving away from earth something like 2 inches per year. just pack it up trannies with your sceince, word lost all credibility because trannies overplayed it
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>>540960189
Let's not change the subject. The Bible isn't setting public policy.
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>>540960343
An orbit is only possible with gravity. The objects are moving relative to each other, without gravity the two objects would travel in straight lines. The objects pull each other towards each other constantly, while also "trying" to move away from each other in a straight line. In the right circumstances that leads to an orbit. In the "wrong" ie too fast or too small or whatever circumstances they will crash into each or fly apart
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>>540953714
>punctuated equilibrium
the absence of evidence IS the evidence (((we're))) looking for lol

>that makes sense if you never bother looking deeper
correct

i ran across a chemist on youtube recently named Dr James Tour
he has some air tight arguments and first hand observations regarding the chemical limitations of of strict darwinianism
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>>540960709
>An orbit is only possible with gravity.
prove it, faggot.
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>>540960709
explain 3body problem next and why doesn't the sun yank our moon? how exactly mercury able to be so close, so small and not be swallowed by the sun? I better hold my breath while you provide proof for your claims, better hurry or I might die from suffication
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>>540960750
Again not trying to prove anything, its inference. Objects will move only when something acts on them. If there were two obejcts flying through space in straight lines, they would continue in straight lines indefinitely unless there was some other force to change that.
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>>540951897
Nothing is naturally flat would the earth be?
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>>540960986
wow, did you hear it on PBS or from Nigger Tyson or from Nye the Scinese goy?
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>>540951897
You can't prove it's flat
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>>540961462
I'm just trying to simply explain the principles involved. Do you disagree with or not understand what I said so far?
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>>540960686
What is the justification for banning abortion?
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I'm pretty sure flat earthers just do it as a larp and because they think it's funny
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Daily reminder only jews spam flat earth in places they cant censor where people talk about their crimes so their media can call anyone talking about their crimes "flat earthers".
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>>540961813
actually you get banned for talking about it on /pol/ and soon enough this thread will be deleted and the op will be banned just like what happens to anyone who makes a flat earth thread
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>>540961576
yes you can in fact the horizon being flat is the default we all experience, the ONLY THING YOUVE EVER SEEN WITH YOUR OWN EYES is a flat horizon from the beach or from a plane, so what do you even mean by "you cant prove its flat" lol.. they taught us its a 3959 mile radius sphere but its provably not, that's the important part because they're firmly teaching that earth curves at this rate when it provably doesnt
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>>540961588
you're not trying shit, retard. all you're doing is regurgitating shit you heard by some kikes. I dare you to prove any of those things for yourself using experiments that are repeatable; you can't, tranny
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>>540961283
lol wtf does that even mean, they taught us earth is curving and the rate at which its curving is something you can test and falsify. "flat" is just a good descriptor for what it looks like considering the HORIZON is always a HORIZONTAL line that looks flat whether you're at a beach or looking out from a plane or watching high altitude balloon footage
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>>540951897
>YOU have to prove my fringe theory wrong
>I dont have to prove it's real, why would i do that??
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>>540960709
lol wtf is an "orbit" there are lights in the sky that spin above your head, there is no such thing as mass attracts mass they had to completely rework that entirely, you are doing something called reification where you say "of course gravity is real, thats how orbits work" but the concept of an orbit just pre-supposes gravity is real and thats why the lights in the sky are moving to begin with
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>>540962504
lol we literally see 30x too far, why dont YOU go test the mainstream model for yourself and see if its true that you can only see 3 miles from a 6ft elevation? go to a body of water near you and see how far you can see, in reality you can see like 30x farther than the globe model predicts. you could easily prove it for yourself but you would rather continue living in the delusion where you live on google earth because you trust the US government and what they show on the news
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>>540962455
You want me to prove Newton's laws of motion? I mean...
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>>540961611
What's your justification for changing the subject? If climate change and vaxxing and transgenderism were taken as a personal belief so that the nuts that believe it have to rally until they're blue in the face and they still only get their agenda heard in legislation where they're a sweeping majority we'd be a lot better off. Instead the politicians embellish climate change and it prevents them from doing necessary things to provide utilities while they also dictate changes to everyone's personal life. Clinate chamge is the lynchpin of agenda 2030 and if nobody believed it we wouldn't be at risk of having the population blindly giving up their privileges over a fake doomsday scenario.
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>>540951745
>"flat-earth"
1. Sea-level exists
2. Most of Earth's surface is sea
c. Most of Earth's surface is level

Ball earth convinces people the plantation is the only habitable place. It's a necessary illusion to keep people from chimping out, and getting in the way of actual progress.
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>>540962751
I can see you're one of them imported jeets or somali niggers due to your lack of basic comprehension
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The most influential flat Earth guy on the internet is a jew. The flat Earth model everyone seems to agree on originates from Hebrew cosmology. Nearly every single flat Earther claims "freemasons" or "jesuits" are at the center of the conspiracy. You have to be a shill or seriously retarded to not see through this shit, let alone entertain it on /pol/ of all places.

>>540962390
Do you really think the elites don't know about the Streisand effect? Of course they openly blabber about censoring flat Earth, in the UK they were blabbering about banning swords while migrants were stabbing people with kitchen knives. If a conspiracy theory has ever been referenced in mass media there's a 100% chance it's a red herring.
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>>540963274
What excatly are you asking?
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>>540963307
>If a conspiracy theory has ever been referenced in mass media there's a 100% chance it's a red herring.

this is retard thinking, if there was a conspiracy they NEVER talk about in the mainstream then obviously that would be suspicious. thats why when they bring up flat earth its always the flat earth actors like jeranism who are masons hired to make flat earth look retarded, they work for that jew weiss
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>>540963356
go back to my replies and compile a list of questions I posed then respond with tests you can perform with common tools that obviously faggots like newton had back in a day to repeat them and come to same conclusion. you can't, you won't because you're dumb tranny jeet or dumb tranny somali nigger
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>>540962505
Is that really where we're at? "There are lights in the sky that spin"

wow

>>540963790
nah you're a lost cause
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>>540963860
yup its as simple as that, what you see is what you get, the stars arent "billions of years ago" either lol
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>>540963307
ooh look, grasphin at straws by bringing up jews. I know your asshole is full of your boyfriend semen because you clearly didn't mention which jews hebrew belongs to. come back to me when you can explain what I mean when I say Ireland, you can't, you won't because you're a dumb jew tranny hiding behind meme flag trying to derail by pulling jew card
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>>540963860
suck on ben's chode, poo
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>>540963891
Well thats all the mysteries of the universe solved right here. There are lights in the sky that spin, and thats it. No more questions.
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I love how bright the Scandis are. Its why you are targeted over and over
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>>540957074
>actually tons of civilizations all came to the same conclusion
Until new technologies came along and changed it
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>>540964002
yup and the lights in the sky have never changed for your entire life, the same stars are in the same place at the same time every night -4 minutes and they never change relative to one another etc
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>>540964033
ummmm.. like what, a telescope? thats all galileo, euler, copernicus, kepler and newton had access to and they somehow "proved" earth was a flying space ball lol?
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>>540964070
>telescope
That's one

Now we can go up there and see for ourselves
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>>540964124
>Now we can go up there and see for ourselves

lol who is "we" because you and i have never gone and will never go, only 28 people have allegedly left low earth orbit and they were all apart of NASA

do you trust the US government? are they a good honest source of information in your opinion?
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>>540964049
There are actually a few of those "lights" that act a bit differently to the others.
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>>540964191
yup which we historically call planets aka wandering lights, but what is more important to focus on in my opinion is that the other 99.9% of stars never change over time and the same star charts from thousands of years ago are still accurate today, indicating the sky isnt changing over time
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>>540964165
>lol who is "we"
Anyone with a GoPro hooked up on a high-altitude weather balloon
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Does anyone else ponder the very nature of the universe? I feel like I am getting closer to understanding the fabric of reality while shit posting with grok
https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_d0c8f138-de03-487b-946c-397a8d9898af
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>>540964191
>There are actually a few of those "lights" that act a bit differently to the others.
prove it, jeet tranny
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>>540964244
which reveals a flat horizon that rises to eye level just like at every other elevation
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>the other 99.9% of stars never change over time
They literally do, and you can verify it yourself with a sub-$1k telescope
This is Barnard's Star, and pictures taken of it each year show motion relative to the background stars
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>>540964373
lol ok name some more beyond bernards star
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>>540964346
>which reveals a flat horizon
Nope.
https://youtu.be/3y0nHhFGXDo?is=SA1YfAeIbagqnJ91

Odd you don't show the video
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>horizon that rises to eye level
Yet another flat earth lie
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>flat horizon
Yet another flat earth lie
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>>540964416
lol or maybe youre a fucking retard and the go-pro is clearly providing the curvature lol

here's some actual footage from multiple sources:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDKfJROVHJE

nt though kid
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>name some more beyond bernards star
Polaris
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>>540964420
>here's some ui jpegs over pictures
wow so cool proof
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>>540964446
wow is that another video game ui over a jpeg thats so real proof that the horizon doesnt rise to eye level which is the only thing any human being has ever experienced looking out of a plane etc
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>>540964460
Your video shows the curve lmao
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>>540964472
lol yeah the positions change if you measure on the same time each year, they are ticking by 1 degree like a clock but the constellations never change relative to eachother, the whole sky is one fixed block of constellations that NEVER change relative to one another
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>>540964502
lol no it doesn't unless its a tiny amouint while the camera is spinning which makes sense
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>>540964535
>lol no it doesn't
Sure does.
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>>540963226
Why are you this upset over the Bible?
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>>540964553
ok screenshot or timestamp in the video where you think its depicting a curved spherical earth
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>>540964299
The lights I'm referring to are the ones that we call "planets", some are observable in the night sky with the naked eye. They will be in observably different positions relative to the other lights which we call "stars"
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>>540964420
literally at eye level but tranny is too delusional and sees a woman in mirror reflection instead of pathetic man wearing his obese mother's mumu. at altitude shown by those tranny collage horizon should not even be in the image and would be at the bottom of each photo . but of course tranny like you are too trooned out to even understand that concept
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>>540964583
Between 5:30 and 5:50 does a good job.
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>>540964590
ooh wau, that's like totally not 0.0000000000001% of all lights in the sky which proves original point by another anon that 99.9% of lights in sky don't move. thanks for proving yet again that you're an imported sheeboon tranny
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>>540963428
The elites are very aware that the masses who despise them are willing take any narrative contradicting the official one as gospel, it's not far-fetched to think they would create a billion alternate narratives to make us unwittingly deify them. Flat Earth is particularly good for this because of its scope, if they could really deceive 99% of the world population about the very nature of the universe, they must be like an unstoppable god-like force who can only be trounced by staying inside and being a good little Christian until God punishes them, because the good guys always win in the end like a Marvel movie.
>masons hired to make flat earth look retarded
The arguments those guys use are indistinguishable from the shit /pol/ flat earthers say.
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>>540964460
It's also funny that comments are disabled on the video hahaha
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>>540964678
oh you mean where its clearly violently wobbling lol?
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>>540964709
But what do you think it proves that the other lights don't move? What point do you think is that making?
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The peak years of conspiracy were when everyone on this board thought they were fighting a satanic elite of child molesters by replacing them with a billionaire outsider who was going to arrest them all and then it turned out it was just some kind of insider power play to take over the party they had the least dirt on. We didn't even get the full picture until ten years of wondering why Hillary never got locked up, anyway all this other shit is just meant to keep you stupid and mistrustful of anything outside the cult so they can keep you under control
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>>540964738
Wobbling wouldn't matter bud lol. Because if it was truly flat, there wouldn't be a curve of a straight line
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>>540964760
it proves that earth is stationary and flat, retard! everything orbits around flat earth, dumb bokachod
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>>540964264
My unironic conclusion on the nature of the universe and life itself
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>>540964823
lol what the fuck are you talking about of course wobbling would affect the camera, the lens is literally moving as you take a pic
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>>540964836
The stars appearing to be In "fixed" positions proves the earth is flat?
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>>540964893
>of course wobbling would affect the camera
It's doesn't make a straight line curve, like your video.

Unless he's using a fisheye lense
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>>540964903
yes, dumb retard! explain to me how all stars look the same when earth rotates, wobbles, spins around sun which too has orbit of it's own which is part of galaxy that too rotates and spins abount some other thing. like I said, dumb sheeboon streetshitting tranny, you lack brain wrinkles to understand such concepts
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>>540964935
youre a dumb retard go wiggle your phone in front of your flat table and take a pic
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>>540965069
What kind of lenses is he using and why are the comments disabled?
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>>540965038
>explain to me how all stars look the same when earth rotates, wobbles, spins around sun which too has orbit of it's own
Stars look the same because they are extremely far away, making our planet's movement too small to change their shapes in the sky.
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>>540965105
its multiple footage from multiple go-pros, no idea its not my video, go figure it out
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>>540965142
>Stars look the same because they are extremely far away
according to who? who measured their distances and how can you verify it for yourself?
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>>540965038

I'm just not following that logic, because there isn't any. There's no connection there at all. The lights in the sky appearing to spin could mean that the earth is stationary and the sky is spinning, but it could also be that the lights are stationary and the earth is spinning. It would look the same either way. But I don't think you can infer anything about the shape of the earth from the obsrevation that the lights in the sky are spinning
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>>540965105
It's not even his video, he stole it from another dishonest flat earther who cropped the original and stretched it out
Here is a legit video with a rectilinear lens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QsEPEhq5yk
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>>540965105
These same people bitch about censorship lol
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>>540965234
lol the camera is spinning fast thats why it clearly goes from convex, to flat, to concave, and back
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>>540965142
can you prove it, prove to me they are far away and how far away, you can't tranny
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>>540965157
>no idea
Of course not lol

>>540965176
>according to who?
Reality
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>who measured their distances and how can you verify it for yourself?
I love how the flerf insists that we do our own measurements and calculations, but links videos he doesn't even know the source of
I would expect nothing less from a disingenuous retard though
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>>540965376
what does that mean? how have you evaluated the distance to the stars for yourself or verified it in any way?
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>>540965205
I'm yet to see a single verifiable proof from you, streetshitter that earth is a globe, I'm getting bored and rather go sniff cockroach I just stomped
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>>540965389
ok except the only point of my videos is to show you observations of a flat horizon that rises to eye level from multiple sources at high elevation, i dont use it to make claims on distances and measurements because i understand its purely optical, meanwhile YOUR model assumes that you can measure how far away the stars are based on just looking at them. and YOU cant and have NEVER verified any of those numbers for yourself
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>>540965234
>he stole it from another dishonest flat earther who cropped the original and stretched it out
I'm not surprised. These people are always extremely dishonest
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>>540965346
>can you prove it
I don't need too
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>>540965346
>>540965398
have you guys ever heard of "parallax"? Its an effect you can observe by holding a finger to your face and closing each eye in turn. You'll see that the finger appears to be displaced in your view, ie it seems to appear to be in a different position deleding on which eye you are looking at it from. You need to understand this before we can proceeed any further.
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>>540965398
>what does that mean?
It means what it means duder
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>>540965523
*depending on which eye
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>>540965523
lol yeah its like you are literally proving you can have parallax from a motionless position.. just like how the stellar parallax can be explained from a motionless earth

parallax AND stellar abberation can be explained from the perspective of a flat motionless earth, its not proof that is unique to a globe at all
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>>540965549
how have you evaluated the distance to the stars for yourself or verified it in any way?
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>>540965605
In this case we are not talking about globes or motion, but distances to the lights in the sky
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>>540965613
Why are you asking me questions that you, yourself haven't done?
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>>540965666
because you are the one relying on external sources when you haven't done the measurements for yourself, im not
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>>540965704
>you are the one relying on external sources
I've sent a go pro up in a ballon. Guess what? There's a curve bud.
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>>540965770
ok show me what it saw lol
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>you are the one relying on external sources when you haven't done the measurements for yourself
Imagine being so retarded that you think solipsism is true
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>>540965795
I did. See
>>540964416
Lol
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>>540965804
??????????????? what the fuck are you even talking about what does what i said have to do with solipsism, im just saying you cant use observations to get accurate distances to the lights in the sky, you cant do it, i cant do it, so why would you assume galileo and newton and kepler can do it? retard
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>ok show me what it saw lol
Why should he?
You'll just reject it or deflect to another retarded talking point
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>>540965804
Yeah these dummies accuse others of what they do or don't do in this case
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>>540965795
>>540964416
ok and i very clearly demonstrated that the lens was imparting curvature considering even the ground looks curved >>540964460 retard
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>>540965605
I am suprised that faggot didn't bring up atmospheric refraction.. that's their favorite go-to to explain everything on a globe
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>>540965874
>i very clearly demonstrated
No you didn't. Lol
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>>540965899
yes i did when i literally took a screenshot from the video you linked
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>>540962421
Good job proving it's flat. Please provide a real life image of the whole flat earth. How can you believe it's flat without any proof
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>>540965995
nobody has ever left this realm and nobody is able to show you a picture of what its like from outside, thats a delusion. flat is just a description for what we see. whats more important is that EARTH IS PROVABLY not a 3959 mile radius sphere which is what NASA, neil degrasse tyson, all schools etc teach
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>>540965945
>yes i did
Nope.

Your video is debunked bud https://youtu.be/S_6lDn7qIEc?is=Gnew1wFi4eUmHk3P
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>>540965995
>Please provide a real life image of the whole flat earth
Also, make sure that when you provide that image of the flat earth, that it's one you took yourself
Because if you can't do the measurements yourself, it means you're just relying on external sources

That's the standard of evidence that he's committed himself to
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>>540966064
>hat EARTH IS PROVABLY not a 3959 mile radius sphere
The Earth is provably not a perfect 3,959-mile radius sphere because its rotation causes it to bulge at the equator and flatten at the poles, making it an oblate spheroid
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>>540966064
Prove it then, using an experiment you did yourself and one that I could reproduce
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>EARTH IS PROVABLY not a 3959 mile radius sphere
Ok, prove it
And make sure you're not relying on external sources if you haven't done the measurements for yourself
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>>540957074
>The Ptolemy model
This assumed a stationary, spherical earth at the center of the universe. Even Greeks 2000 years ago understood the Earth wasn't flat.
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>>540965995
>>540966084
Kek
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>>540966110
>making it an oblate spheroid

lol ok cool quote from neil degrasse tyson but in all the alleged pics its very clearly quite spherical
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>>540951897
>Ships vanish into the horizon bottom first
>Start constellations change depending on your latitude/longitude
>Earth's shadow on moon during lunar eclipses is round
>Time zones exist
>Stars move counter-clockwise on northern hemisphere but clockwise on southern hemisphere
>If you place a 2 meter stick upright and measure where it's shadow is at EXACTLY noon, and then travel 70 miles north or south, the shadow will be different at exactly noon
>Foucault pendulum
>On flat earth you could see Mt. Everest from anywhere with a telescope
>Airplanes fly shortest possible distances, which on flat maps often looks curved because they account for curvature
>Day and night cycle, if sun really just floated above a disk-shaped earth, you could still somehow see or measure it during night time, and if it rotated around the disk disappearing beneath it, it'd be night/day everywhere at once
>coriolis effect
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>>540966141
I accept your concession
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>>540966126
lol the rate at which its curving (whe nits not) is secondary to the fact that its the motionless center of the universe. the fact that you can assume earth is the motionless center of the universe and model the day/night, eclipses, motions of the stars etc is amazing considering that would mean we were intelligently placed here by an intelligent designer that intentionally made everything spin around us, the only place where humans live, the most important and only place to exist - earth
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>>540966184
>whe nits not
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>>540965995
They never can because it’s not flat and they know that.
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>>540952197
>>540952223
>muh Jewish book
OK retard.
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>>540966146
Honestly, just the fact that the sun sets is enough to disprove a flat earth
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>>540966221
Same with eclipses
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>>540951745
This. Flat earth shit fails a very basic test: who is gaining from it, and what? Why would they dedicate so much time and energy to it? What is the human motivation for it? There is none.
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>>540958148
Oh, so it just randomly does that..?
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>>540951745
You really think flat-tard don't have an answer for that?
Did you even try to come up with an answer by yourself before asking it?
It's because if the world was flat it would mean our world can be empirically demonstrated to be a literal miracle and it would confirm the existence of a god creator capable of doing miracles. So their answer is "because they don't want you to believe in god".
You can say that's retarded and defeats the whole purpose of faith and yes that's correct they are retarded and don't understand the implications of it but it doesn't change the fact that this is the answer to that specific question.
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>>540966146
>>Ships vanish into the horizon bottom first
everything disappears from the bottom up, put your phone on the flat floor and record yoruself walking away from it
>>Start constellations change depending on your latitude/longitude
you cant see the whole sky from any 1 place on earth
>>Earth's shadow on moon during lunar eclipses is round
the moon being obscured doesnt mean its due to earths shadow, there's also a selenelion eclipse aka an impossible eclipse where both the moon and sun are above the horizon and one gets eclipsed while the other remains visible
>>Time zones exist
lol so what, you'd expect there to be 24 even timezones in the north and southern hemisphere if we did 1 revolution every 24 hours, but in fact its 19 in the northern hemi"sphere" and 32 in the southern hemi"sphere". timezones are manmade based on sunlight times
>>Stars move counter-clockwise on northern hemisphere but clockwise on southern hemisphere
this is perspective and you can observe it from a motionless position (look at attached webm)
>>If you place a 2 meter stick upright and measure where it's shadow is at EXACTLY noon, and then travel 70 miles north or south, the shadow will be different at exactly noon
this is expected with a local sun that isnt 92 million miles away
>>Foucault pendulum
have electric motors and are restarted every few days due to air resistance stopping them lol, if the earth moving under pendulums caused them to move there would never be a stationary pendulum
>>On flat earth you could see Mt. Everest from anywhere with a telescope
you cant see forever, light has to reach your eye
>>Airplanes fly shortest possible distances,
chartered routes the pilot doesnt choose
>>Sun day and night cycle
the suns light gets absorbed by the atmo"sphere" and its light doesnt reach your part of the earth when its halfway across the other side
>>coriolis effect
yet to be proven, earth doesnt spin under a bullet just like it doesnt spin under a hot air balloon
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>>540966204
when its not*, i had one space moved over, sorry it was such a difficult puzzle for you to solve
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>>540966320
I bet your skin is brown and you eat cow shit lol
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>>540966286
you're retarded
if you could lie about the shape of the earth you could lie about anything

they convinced you that you live on google earth and could easily hide land and resources from you
they steal $70,000,000 a day to operate NASA and provide you lying cartoons

and they have you convinced youre on one "planet" and there's a septillion other "planets" and youre just a meaningless speck of dust. saying "who would want to lie to the world to control everyones minds?" is like retardedly naive
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>>540966314
>you cant see forever, light has to reach your eye
You just debunked your self
>>540965176
>>Stars look the same because they are extremely far away
>according to who?
You, dumb ass dipshit
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>>540966350
okay i bet you're a jew with your veins full of demonblood which is why you defend the satanic god-hiding globe model so passionately
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>>540952070
Our DNA is both alive and intelligent.
This is how evolution can happen and why it's guided and informed by the environment.
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>>540966064
>nobody has ever left this realm and nobody is able to show you a picture of what its like from outside
what about that flight to the moon the other month? surely they have tons of footage that proves globe
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>>540966389
??? how does that debunk myself, that just means the stars arent far enough away that their light doesnt reach your eye retard, especially when you are looking up its through the thinnest layer of atmos and when youre looking out at the horizon towards the sun its the densest layer of the atmos, thats why the sun even disappears above the horizon sometimes
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>>540966466
yea actually no they just lied and they're able to make astronauts appear to float while on harnesses the same way they can make superman appear to float on harnesses
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>>540966414
You realize how big the planet is and that's a video from a very very small section of it.
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>>540966286
If you believe you live on a spinning water ball in a vacuum flying away from an explosion, you will believe in anything.
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>>540966118
lol, sheeboon tranny is so dumb that he is now arguing another globie retard
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>>540966466
theres even tons of issues with augmented reality glitching, no shadows on the rendered object etc
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>>540966414
>i bet you're a jew
>The rabbis of the Talmud believed that the world was flat, and that the sun revolved around the Earth every day
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>>540966309
Yeah a lil snowglobe world is a real epic miracle compared to a seemingly infinite universe and life that can adapt and change into countless forms. And no one is saying that a creator didn't do all of that either, science doesn't disprove god it just studies creation. A bunch of historical scientists were religious dudes. You just think very small thats all.
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>>540966520
It makes God seem very lazy lmao.
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The retard leaf has made 9 posts since he made the claim
>EARTH IS PROVABLY not a 3959 mile radius sphere
and 3 of us asked him for the proof

Just pointing out how absurdly dishonest you have to be to believe in a flat earth
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>>540966467
>??? how does that debunk myself
See
>>540965142
>Stars look the same because they are extremely far away
Lol, dude you are a massive clown shoe
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>>540966519
except it wasnt just the hebrews it was literally the greeks, the navajo, the babylonians, the meopotamians, the japanese, the persians, the vikings, the indians, the mayans, the incans, the hebrews, the origin australian, the chinese, the celtic, the chumash, the slavics, the africans, the sumerians, romans, the egyptians as well, trying to pretend its some jew invention is retarded and intellectually dishonest
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>>540966518
ooh, that glitching happened due to athmospheric refraction. and as for starstruck that was an honest mistake, a newly hired sheeboon tranny from UK messed up the filenames and posted an old photo
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>>540966314
Bro, you're dunkin' on these globetards.
Thank you for your service.
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>>540966568
lol i respond to people who respond to me retard, there's tons of evidence here for example we see too far, you can see across a 28.6 mile lake from 6 inches in elevation >>540962564
, try to explain how thats possible on a 3959 mile radius sphere curving at 8 inches per mile squared
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>>540966588
>it was literally the greeks
Sure was, Ancient Greeks proved the Earth was a sphere over 2,000 years ago
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>you can see across a 28.6 mile lake from 6 inches in elevation
Did you do that experiment yourself or verify it in any way?
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>>540963231
This argument is a clever word game that plays on two different meanings of the word "level"

Meaning of Sea-Level: "Sea-level" is a measurement standard used to show elevation, not a flat tabletop surface
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>>540965770
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>>540966631
"proved" lol
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>>540966520
>muh passive-aggressive innuendo
There is nothing about our current understanding of the universe that requires a miracle, retard.
If our planet was the only that instead of being a sphere was some impossible flat realm that breaks all laws of physics then this would be a literal empirical proof of a miracle. Faith in a god would no longer be required.
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>>540951745
christianity is mithraic caesar worship remixed with near east dionysian cults
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>>540966736
Yup. Unlike you. Who's done literally nothing hahaha
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>>540961576
1 Chronicles 16:30
Genesis 1:6-7
Theres a quite a few
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>>540962421
>the horizon being flat is the default we all experience
Human eyes see a flat horizon because the Earth is too large for the human eye to perceive its curvature from ground level
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>>540966729
Flerfs are dishonest as fuck
They're as bad as sovereign citizens who think "understand" means "to stand under" and as long as they never say they "understand" the law, they can never be held liable for their actions
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>>540966751
Right I see so your argument is that the current understanding makes too much sense for it to be a miracle, you need actual magic to be true to prove god. and isn't the whole point of faith that you shouldn;t need proof anyway? In fact proof goes against faith. Why do you want to prove god exists you apostate shit
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>>540966757
Let me guess, you never even read the Bible or anything from any of the pagan myths you referenced, but you saw on reddit that this is the story?
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Arguing that "our eyes can't see a curve" is like an ant in a tree arguing that a forest doesn't exist. You are mentally like ants compared to the vastness of what we live in. I believe they just don't have the brains to conceive of things at scale.
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>>540966832
lol except if it was a 3959 mile radius sphere you would see head level drop by 8 inches at even 1 mile away from you, this doesnt happen in reality
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>>540966833
>Water settles on a curve of any kind
lol, fuckin kill yourself you kike rat
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>>540966921
D I V V S I S I S
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>>540951745
WHY NIGGER
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>>540967083
It does if that object has a force pulling everything to its centre. You can test this force exists by jumping off a tall building.
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>>540967148
lol seeing farther from a higher angle happens regarldess of a sphere or flat plane
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Flerfs can't explain how the Southern Cross can be visible for people in the South when they should be looking in different directions
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Flerfs cannot explain the 24-hour sun in Antarctica in December
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>>540967098
Taking that as a "no I didn't read them and I have no shame making assertions about them anyway".
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>>540967178
You juts can't conceive of things in 3D can you. Its a curve dropping away from you, thats what it would look like cause thats what it is. Its dropping below the horizon and then becoming visible again, thats a different effect than perspective.
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When flerfs try to do experiments, they end up proving the globe Earth
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Flerfs cannot explain how there can be a shadow cast on the bottom of clouds
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>>540966883
>why
Read the question the op is asking and my answer to it you baboon.
The incentive to lie is to hide the miracle that proves god. You haven't disagreed with this but you keep replying to me for whatever reason to say some dumb shit.
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>>540967137
Gravity is fake
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Sometimes flerfs try to do an experiment by riding a rocket a few thousand feet up
It works out very well for humanity, but not very well for them
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>>540951745
>Why
Because believing 0 of them is equally retarded as believing 100% of them
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>>540967376
Can I get a quick rundown on that webm?
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Thats why you get so mad lol, the most insults here have been from flerfers. Because you try to imagine a globe in your head and you just can't.

>>540967330
Proving god is against faith. You are supposed to beleive. Thats what faith is. So your reasoning is illogical.

>>540967331
prove it
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If I am on the equator and I followed a straight forward path would eventually return to where I started or will I run into an ice wall or even more ridiculous, be met by armed forces threatening to arrest me if I go any further?
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>>540967440
It was a flat earther (Mike Hughes) who wanted to do an amateur rocket launch to fly high enough to see that it was a disc
He was inside it, launched, but the parachute malfunctioned and he ended up just falling back to the ground in a wonderful demonstration of gravity
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>>540962504
>Fringe
Believed by all humans everywhere until retards a century ago is not fringe

Inb4 Galileo.
It was taught in UK and US schools as fact into the early 1900s. "Generally accepted since the Renaissance" is a Jewish artificial credibility gambit trying to make it seem like "people stopped believing it forever ago". This is false
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there is a pre-diluvian megastructure 20 miles southeast from union glacier camp; land bridges connected south ameriica antartica and africa pre flood
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>there is a pre-diluvian megastructure 20 miles southeast from union glacier camp
Evidence would be great
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>>540967500
ty anon
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Something else that boggles my mind if the Earth is flat and nothing moves how is the sun and moon in different positions at different times of the year basically what I'm getting at is at 5:00 p.m. The sun should be in the same spot at the same location same with the Moon at 10:00 pm the moon should be in the same position every day of the year
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>>540951745
>So if you actually believe any consirpacy theories, state to me WHY

When the data that has alternate explanations that can not be disregarded the original theory becomes invalid. Globe earth, germ theory, molecular theory, cell theory, virus theory, gravity, most of physics, all religion, evolution... and on and on....
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>>540957074
There's some sort of tech in phones that doesnt allow you to photo big moons at night properly you should check it out when you see a big moon and take a photo of it next to a size reference in the foreground or somewhere in frane
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>>540967522
>"Generally accepted since the Renaissance" is a Jewish artificial credibility gambit
It was generally accepted since Ancient Greece lol. Galileo was heliocentrism, not globe earth
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>>540967283
et dimitte nobis debita nostra, sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris

ἆρά γε γινώσκεις ἃ ἀναγινώσκεις;
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>>540967453
Tell that to the flat-tards not to me. You're repeating the point that I made in the initial post to refute the reasoning of my initial post? What peak retardation.
This is the answer to the op's question and it's undeniable. If you have a better answer, provide it. If you don't, eat my ASS.
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data mining thread
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>>540967058
>3959 mile
Like I said l
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>>540967706
no it does not, because the radius changes throughout the year
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>>540968230
The earth isn't flat bud
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>>540968230
>because the radius changes throughout the year
Can you address any of the questions here?
>>540967187
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>>540966730
>>540968273
use your eyes, bud. but you're allowed to believe what you want to believe, as am I.
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>>540968373
>use your eyes, bud
I have. I've seen the curve
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>>540968230
>the sun magically decides to start making bigger circles above the flat earth every 6 months
lol
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>>540968313
no, I cannot. I am not going to pretend that I know everything about flat earth, I just did 2 things in this thread.
1. show that gopro cameras can indeed make straight lines look curved/create a fisheye lens effect
2. answer an anon's question about the position of the sun throughout the year
I'm not here to convince anyone desu. but claiming gopros do not create curved lines is bullshit. and answering an anon's question about the position of the sun throughout the year was also not ment to change his mind. I was just answering his question.
again, you as well are allowed to believe what you want, as am I.
can you explain why we still haven't found any dark matter?
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>>540968626
>nothingness just magically decided to explode and created time, space and life
lmao
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>>540969092
A miracle..
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>>540951847
thank you for my daily kek
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>>540969187
again, you are allowed what you want to believe, as am I. just pointing out that both have questions that may not have a clear answer and may seem retarded
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>>540958148
sorry for yt short can't find original video
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UBTtsH8VEUY



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