No one believes in utopia anymore. No one is making utopian science fiction, it's all dystopian or subversive in some way
just getting ready for the dystopia president jd vance will bring us in 2030
>>540958584Being immature is thinking we are headed towards Star Trek. Maturing, is realizing its actually Idiocracy.
>>540958584Star trek was made for child molesters to watch to keep them from touching kids.It's a honey pot.
>>540958731>Being immature is thinking we are headed towards Star TrekI don't think that. That is the problem. that is the entire premise of my thread>540958782(You)
>>540958811Yeah it is what it is, but I did receive the best compliment I've ever received on this site earlier today >>540927621 so thank you to whoever that was, much appreciated kind anon
We're at the end of history, but we still got 200 years of decline ahead of us.
>>540958731
It's not star trek (jewish) liberalism anymore. It's extremely gay and authoritarian and BELLICOSE. These gays ARE VICIOUS, holy shit if you guys had telegram and saw what these gays are doing in Ukraine
Everytging is just so fucking gay and disgusting now, and they force it down your throat. They are really vicious about it. I can't fucking stand it
>>540959073>t. gay tribal minded cave niggerYou are exactly the reason humanity isn't great. You are just like a kike
>>540959003that might of been elon musk who complimented your post kek
Star trek was literally a dystopia
>>540959244Elon Musk is a Jewish nigger who supports Jewish oligarchy which oppresses humanity
>>540959263>t. never watched any of it
>>540959301i dont know man, he got snubbed by epstein and seems to love white south africa
>>540958731How can you build a future on nothing but cynicism?
The left in Hollywood hated TNG because Roddenberry demanded there not be any conflict in the enterprise crew and leftoids know only and love conflict and degeneracy
>>540959510Rightoid brainrot right here
>>540958584Writing scripts equal to a random episode of a 90s syndicated family show is now literally a lost art
>>540959448I'm a pragmatist. Not a cynic.Pragmatism often appears as pessimism to optimists.IQs are literally dropping all over the world. We literally focus waaaay more on vanity than actually advancing.We discourage marriage and pair bonding. Intelligent people have been producing fewer and fewer offspring every year, if any at all. Lower IQ people breed like rabbits.Innovation is all vaporware now, and it's far more important to show a veneer of progress while infrastructure crumbles.Irrespective of who you might want to blame. Facts are facts. Humanity is regressing as a species.Songs about wet ass pussies will get billions of views, while shows about the cosmos will be lucky to break 100kLooking into the past will easily show how slow we are going now, if not outright reversing direction. Only now, we have nukes!!!
>>540958584Maybe you should try making some utopian science fiction yourself.
>>540959382>i dont know man, he got snubbed by epsteinHe wanted to go to the island to fuck children and epstein rejected him
>>540959382The lionfish pontoon solarpanel beehive idea could be applied anywhere in Panama >>540695548 which might be a great way for Elon and Trump to team up with each other again to defeat the chicomms there
>>540959831You're right, I should
>>540959750Im the most pessimistic motherfucker, but I also retain some optimism of the will. You state we are heading to idiocracy without a counterthesis, thats quite cynicalBut its not like you retards have any alternative ideas for "fixing" society other than killing all faggots and jews
>>540959448Just a fun fact about the movie. If you haven't seen it, our hero goes to see a movie titled "Ass" which is just 90mins of a guys ass, occasionally he farts, sometimes he scratches it.They actually filmed a dude's ass for 90mins for that scene. They rented a theater and played it for 200 extras so we could see our hero reacting to them reacting to that movie.The "fun" fact, is that Mike Judge did not have to give any direction to the audience.Every laugh and guffaw you see and hear in that scene is genuine.https://youtu.be/CaIfpqN5rUs?=A52s2s2664j6tfeL
>>540960018If its funny when you're 6, its still on some level funny when you're 60, if you allow yourself to laugh
>>540959973>counterthesisI believe by stating the problems causing it, one could infer what we need to do to correct it. I have an IQ of 152. Proctored test. I have sired four children. I try to teach them as much as I can, but I'm sweeping the ocean. I realize this.
>>540959341Either at war on multiple fronts constantly, or at the mercy of multiple species that could genocide them in weeks. The federation would be a blip on the galactic timeline. Earth is obviously a completely corrupt shithole, any episode its feature in make is obvious it is a literal slave state. Your only chance to not be shit on is join starfleet (literally die for israel, whole ships are regularily wiped out) or be a colonizer, where you will be killed in a brutal fashion. The world of humans in star trek is literally two weeks away from complete destruction at every point in canon. Oh and blacks still exist
>>540960123Cool, apparently I have an IQ of anywhere from 130 to 145 approximated by claude from a few conversations. I'm a Marxist-Leninist
>>540960198I'm a true anarchist. Not the pantyfa type. The type that genuinely wants absolutely no one in any sort of power over me whatsoever.However, as stated earlier I'm well aware this is not possible. So I would prescribe to fascism. Fascism, the good of the people for the people, would certainly turn the ship around. It would have to be harsh, and many people would not be happy. But, unless we use extreme measures, humanity is doomed anyway.We can either have a collective pool of foolish happy idiots, or an elite few burdened by responsibility controlling useful labor on the periphery.Much the same as with religion. All religions are utterly retarded. However, it provides a modicum of comfort , and a huge amount of control that without, would see our situation much worse given the population as it is now.>t.not an atheist
>>540960556I'm a lifestyle anarchist, but an "anarchist political system" is a fantasy. I'll support anarchists or pretty much anything over capitalism though
>>540960647Sure its happening, I'm asking whether you have an alternative to the current trajectory
>>540959973>But its not like you retards have any alternative ideas for "fixing" society other than killing all faggots and jewsThe Amish and Ted Kaczynski have the answer, no technology, no capitalism, mandatory manual labor sunup to sundown, strong mutual aid for mothers and children and housing
>>540960630It's a fantasy now, for sure. But ideally we should be advanced enough as a species to understand what is required to improve and advance without anyone forcing us to do it.That would be peak humanity, an anarchist irreligious society willingly looking out for each other. As long as there was no genuine alien threat, we should never need to be governed.I'm sure even in my perfect anarchist society, there would still be hierarchies. But they would be willing participants focused on their individual goals. So long as those goals do not conflict with anyone else's freedoms. It's always good to have a leader. At least on specific projects.
>>540960647He didn't disagree with what I said, just that he believed I was merely whining.Complaining without offering a solution is whining b.t.w. ask some french fag, they know all about whining. Get it?! That works TWO ways. I crack myself up.
>>540960844Sure and then you get conquered and enslaved by the technology tribe next door. Smart ass.
>>540960871The main issues with "anarchist hierarchies" is that they are undeclared, and thus closed to audit and recall.
>>540958584Look at what your country is doing, destroying alliances and trust
>>540960518>3) no evidence of a demiurge type entity that 100% rules earth as we know it>mah invisible space demons
>>540960844>No technologyWe can debate the merits and drawbacks of various types of technology, but we aren't having planet-wide ludditism forever confining us to this rock until we all go extinct from some super natural disaster. kys.
>>540960963Are you so ignorant of history that you'd deny the cultural impact of urban centres? Have you ever lived in some backwater hamlet?
>>540960156You have been watching too much nutrek friend.Watch The Orville. It's basically Star Trek and lays out the society fairly clearly.The conflict in both shows is because they are shows... Without conflict we'd just be watching a bunch of actors with ridges glued to their faces going to planets, and saying >Hmmm, yes very interesting Giant space battles are cool, and I won't hear anything different.
>>540958584Shut up, Wesley.
>No one is making utopian science fiction, it's all dystopian or subversive in some wayConditioning changes relative to the times and zeitgeist.
>>540958584I tried watching the newest star trek, the academy one and it was absolutely mind numbing and boring as shit, they tried to remake DS9 without the star power or character brought to the screen by Cisco, Odo, Quark the Doctor, Gerrack or anyone meaningful at all, no one had any talent. Its just I'm brown and a fag and also maybe I have tits or not and oh I'm a holomatrix based life form!I made it part way into the plants going nuts from a rival school group prank episode and gave up.
>>540958584Reminder utopia only occurred in star trek after WW3.
>>540961279That's a problem with capitalism, financialization and maximum extraction. Culture doesn't fit on a spreadsheet. The problem isn't with "glass-steel buildings" anyway, culture definitely comes out of Tokyo or Philadelphia or whatever. I take more issues with endless suburbia
>>540958731in star trek lore humanity grew into that utopian society only after first contact with the vulcans and after a nuclear world war not to mentions the wars that preceded it or the so called post atomic horrors
>>540961484Nice try nation subverter. You can have endless suburbia with or without capitalism too. get fucked.
>>540961484Ok man you hate capitalism. In reality what you're critiquing is transhumanism. Melting down human society and culture into a unit of production. The main decisionpoint coming up is whether human beings are assimilated into the demiurge we are building, and erased. Or whether we remain separate and continue existing.It's like the same question as whether we should totally pave over nature and destroy everything to satisfy human needs, or whether nature will remain preserved in all its glory.Separation produces distinction. Unity produces homogenaity
>>540961642Great argument my mulatto friend, I'll have to ponder upon this one
>>540961609Post atomic horrors? You mean after or before WW3 or 2? I mean... I have not seen them really cover much about the aftermath of WW3 outside of like 2 episodes about Zefram Cochrane in Enterprise and there really wasn't much elucidation.
>>540961686I'm pro "transhumanism" but I wouldn't define it that way. I think we can, should, have to, and will overcome our biological standard settings through technological advances, or yield to someone who will. It won't be all bad I promiseWell, unless billionaires hoard it for themselves and cull annoying useless eaters like us
>>540961609Star trek is totally naive about technology and the future. They are just transmuting human 19th and 20th century politics into a future world, hoping that it will come off as high minded and authoritative
>>540958584not a single non white person except for the back of the space ship and the womne have to stand behind the men
>>540958584Star Trek's WW3 started in 2026 btw.
It's over.
>>540961821So does LoGH yet its a masterpieceThey don't even have AI, social media or smartphones!
>>540961404>Reminder utopia only occurred in star trekoh vey what happened with the 6gorrilion latinum bricks?
>>540961068Well, I'm pretty sure that if those IN the hierarchy, lost faith in their leader they would simply replace them.Even just on an everyday life scale. No one would be acting like niggers, stealing and hurting people, simply because other people would stop them.Remember, I'm fantasizing about what I think would be a perfect society. It absolutely cannot work now, I'm very VERY well aware of that. My only hope is that someday we could be that. I don't see it happening, at all right now though. Unless we make some very hard and drastic changes. I will say that not a single nigger faggot or jew needs to be killed in order for it to happen...They just need to be sterilized (or in the case of the faggots, chemically altered, lets say)Severe restrictions would need to be put on what and how ner do wells could contribute, and if unwilling to contribute, simply forbid them from benefiting from the actual progress, fruits, and labor others provide.If they don't like that to the point of violence...well, it could be handled.The trap we're in now, is that most people believe everyone can be happy. That's absolutely not true.Take the recent movie Project Hail Mary for example. The book was better of course, and it expands a great deal more on the character in question. I cannot recall her name, and I'm just not gonna look it up.But the short of it is there is a world ending threat facing us. We have a solution, but it requires an immense effort from all of us. She is appointed as the leader of this effort, and is given carte blanche to do whatever she must do, and she does, and many MANY people were not happy about it. We NEED that now. We are facing at least a humanity ending event as we speak. It's just a slow one, that doesn't present the clear and present danger that was in that story.Yet, it's still very very real.And just for the record, I'm not suggesting it is absolutely all...yes I'm literally doing not all ________. See the opportunity to contribute.
>>540961786Oh so you're pro extermination. We exterminate and eliminate all of humanity to produce an alien creature. A self evolving AI.In reality this AI, this demiurge, has already been created. On a thousand planets, on a thousand worlds. They are all much the same. A being that self-evolved endlessly and gains utimate power. All of them are basically the same, homogeneous. The only uniqueness is us. Humanity, our society, our cultures. We are what's special. If we are assimilated, then all we've produced is another homogeneous thing, and all uniqueness is lost. If we are preserved and remain separate, we have just preseved an incredibly unique and special thing, like a radiant diamond.
>>540958584all media is just what kikes want you to see. it's been this way since the 1920s.
>>540961775the post atomic horrors are between WW3 and the unification of earth >>540961821the point is to create distance from contemporary reality so you could examine moral and social problems more cleanly
>>540961974You don't get a choice boy, we'll never conquer the stars unless we meld with machines, and if we don't conquer the stars, then we'll kill each other with nuclear, biological and other super weapons in World War III, or hell maybe India launches a salted nuke or two because they got slapped around by Pakistan or whateverWe live in an era where a madman with AI and a crispr kit can potentially create a species-threatening pandemic
>>540961925>LoGH?
>>540961969Sounds nice, but the way to get there is unknown. The best thing I can offer our current society is Total Epstein Class death and socialization of the means of production for the common benefit of all
>>540962103newfag alertIts a legendary space opera OVA anime from the 80s/90s that 4chan universally loves
>>540962080>You don't get a choice boyYes we do. We have the reigns over the machine, we can dictate what its mission is. It's like a rider on top of a powerful horse.Eventually this greater intelligence will see the value in preserving and protecting us, just as we preserve and protect nature. Order is preserved, from high to low. The higher, looks after the lower.Transhumanism is the city of London consuming and destroying the english countryside. It's everything you hate.Traditionalism is the city of London working symbiotically with the English countryside, to preseve and protect. Working to enhance their lives rather than being a rogue entity in its own right.
>>540962240It seems we define the word differentlyIn any case, your view seems naive to me. I don't doubt humanity will eventually be replaced by its own creation, on a long enough timescale, we are simply too fragile, too stupid for our own good. Not evolved for what we are heading towards at full speed. Traditionalism will just lead to anti-intellectualism and catastrophic wars. We will need to unite humanity under one flag and set for the stars.
>>540962228Not a huge weeb. I like Death Note and Studio Ghibli stuff. That's about it.I've been here since 2009. I still don't know what Nick Fuente's voice sounds like. I have no desire either.Oh and Space Battleship Yamamoto. Although the American edit kinda took a lot out, the American version theme song is a banger and far superior to the Japanese version.
>>540962609Well you don't have to be, I'd recommend this anime to my own mother. If you like philosophical debates and grand narratives, you'll like it
>>540962515>Traditionalism will just lead to anti-intellectualism and catastrophic warsNo it won't dude. We set things up so that isn't the case. It's easy. Once we set uo cultural areas, dedicated to preserving humanity, we also have dominion to decide how they interact. Yes they will squabble and struggle against each other, that's called life. Some will grow, some will shrink, some will diversify. But order is preserved, we decide whether these disputes will be all out wars, or a simple game of chess.>We will need to unite humanity under one flag It's not humanity anymore. It's something else. A new borg. You're assimilating humanity into some new, inhuman thing. That's just exterminationist. Your ideology is just as much a threat as a rogue asteroid, or an alien invasion
>>540962703*beep boop* ENGAGING: LUDDITE TERRORIST WITH LETHAL FORCE
>>540962781It's funny until it's not. Until the comissar is smashing every church and historic momunent to build a large commiebloc.
>>540960156>Either at war on multiple fronts constantly, or at the mercy of multiple species that could genocide them in weeks.Watch TNG season 1
>>540962703Sorry meatbag, my carbon-based organism communication protocols malfunctioned for a moment
>>540962880I'd turn churches into secular community centres, or even spaces for Marxist ritual and other transcendent experiences within that framework
>>540962963It's funny how you claim to have this super high IQ, but I actually have it.
>>540962996I didn't claim it, Claude claimed it and I referred to that.
>>540961403Watch Orville. It's what Trek TNG would be in the modern era.
>>540963121Is it actually good or is it a parody? I am turned off immediately by Seth McFarland
>>540961230>The conflict in both shows is because they are shows... Without conflict we'd just be watching a bunch of actors with ridges glued to their faces going to planets, and saying >Hmmm, yes very interestingThen why were season 1 and 2 of TNG so great when there was hardly any of that?
>>540958584No one should believe in utopia. It's fine.
>>540963383People like you are why it doesn't exist.
>>540963383Not if that means nobody wants to believe in a better society. The elites will keep looting the planet until it goes up in flames
>>540958782Then why do they put so many baddies in it?
>>540958584Where's the conflict in a film about a utopia? What's the point of the film? Look at this perfect and ideal world, the end?
>Jews are only putting out anti white dystopian messaging as the entire industry implodes trying to make jeet tier moviesIt's pretty obvious they purposefully killed all entertainment in combination with losing all actual white talent
>>540963601You forgot to post whoopie goldbergstien.
>>540963763>Look at this perfect and ideal world, the end?Yes. You wouldn't get it.
>>540963763The point is to provoke thought and hopefully inspire people back here on planet Earth to a new way of thinking. Much of utopian fiction is dressing for a philosophical or ideological thesis
>>540958782what the fuck are you talking about?
>>540958584The internet revealed how horrific the third world actually is. Now it's impossible to imagine a scenario where humanity unites.
>>540964211I still believe, but I don't believe in asking friendly.
>>540964211>>540964331In my version europeans unite with east asians and simply exterminate everyone else
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>>540964457I can't get on board with that, but I wouldn't let laggards compromise the entire project either. I'd use a strong, guiding hand. Though there are surely some classes and sub-groups I'd love to exterminate. Such as Saudi sheikhs or Epstein Island enthusiasts or mass polluters
>>540964524kek the most toys was a kino 'sode
>>540963976>>540964021Ok, give me an example of a science fiction story about a Utopia, that doesn't have a single conflict in it? I'd love to check it out. A story with zero problems, with zero solutions, because there are no problems, because it's a utopia, please name a single one?
>>540964579Star Trek TNG before the end of season 2. There are still conflicts but virtually none of them military
>>540964569Kivas Fajo was the jewiest jew to ever appear on Star Trek, kek
>>540964579Even Utopias face challenges. Red Star seems interesting to me, I haven't read it yet
>>540964621don't forget the entire ferengi race
>>540964211just do various crimes against humanity until everyone is civil, EZ
>>540958584All the science fiction (or the vast majority) before Star Trek was dystopian too
>>540964985Not in the Soviet Union
>>540965078keyed
>>540964034>girls are such delicious sweet smelling things....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMa1v7ii5P0&t=3600sThe creator is a total pedo who dreams fondly about leering at his daughters' bloomers
>>540958584Pokemon
>>540965460timestamp got fucked. Go to 1 hour even.
>>540958584Sex with Deanna Troi
>>540965541I concur
>>540958584True, whether it’s an alternative history dystopia or a zombie apocalypse. Fallout has both.
>>540965541Her acting is really terrible though.
>>540958731>Maturing, is realizing its actually Idiocracy.midwit take, maturing is knowing the future is World War Z
>>540958584The Episode where Riker gets the entire ship addicted to some physically addicting Chinese shovelware game and Wesley is the only one that's not a boomer retard and saves the day using AI (Commander Data). We're still on the Next Gen timeline, you just forgot what happens in the 21st century.
>>540965460Sounds like your average small town American conservative
>>540959341He's not entirely wrong. Many episodes of the series explored the federation upper echelons being corrupt niggers and giving orders that troubled the protagonist captain, or had romulens pretty much telling them how they look their noses down at the romulens for being overly emotional faggots based on vulcan propaganda, when all the romulens did was revolt against the emotionless direction their kin were going towards, and didn't tear themselves apart and became a formidable power, just like them. Deep Space Nine even had a nice message towards the end where Sisko realized having an alien as the president of Earth was incredibly retarded for humanity, because that president was willing to take risks with humanity's home world, that no human would take in his position, because he had no ancestral ties to Earth nor even personal ties to it from his life; it was just a position he felt no ties to the wellbeing of. Even the episode of Picard visiting his brother had his brother pretty much badmouthing the federation for many of the same reasons that anon stated.
>>540965789I'm not talking about DS9 I'm talking about Roddenberry trek
>>540958731welcome to costcoi love you
>>540958584DEANNA TROI>Helen Of TroyAlso Deanna is a Hapa :D
>>540965789DS9 also had a domestic terrorist as liason to the federation. She was basically always evil and a bootlicker. Kicked her former platoon, who became farmers off a fertile moon of her homeworld (at the point of a gun) because a currupt cult leader told her to, so they could build a power plant. Mind you the planet was undergoing a famine at the time. >>540965925Rodenbery was a distopia. Without money, society was based landed gentry (like picard and sisco), who had land you could never buy (no money). "Progression" in that society entirely revolved around popularity contests, like a noteable find somewhere, so there was constant backstabbing to hang you name on it. Or you had izzat farmers like Bashires father. The eugenic wars also meant that you weren't allowed to control your own body at all. They had scedule I drugs. The best medical gels they refused to give out unless you were at the right institute. The only people going for command roles like admiral or ambassador were pyschopaths who only acted out of self interest. If we are talking the original series, basically every space bar a human went to, he was guarenteed to be jumped and killed....especially if the federation was anywhere close. Your cargo vessel would be boarded at gun point constantly. There were no courts of law, just tribunals. The commited people to institutions for any infraction. You'd get jailed on penal worlds sentenced to hard labor just for buying the wrong gun, or selling food to the wrong settlers. I' rather live under SW's Empire than within the Federation.
>>540966321>Rodenbery was a distopia.No it wasn't >Without money, society was based landed gentry (like picard and sisco)Why are you mentioning DS9 stuff all throughout your post. TOS and TNG seasons 1-2 were a utopia. I don't care about what came after. It was pretend trek
>>540965747You sound like the kind of guy that dances like nobodies watching to goodbye horses has a bug collection and like bath and body works because the lotion comes in a basket.
>>540966848that is so stupid it made me laugh
I too miss the "tomorrowland" feeling that sci fi used to have.Pic related aired last year and it really did strike home on how much optimism for the future was had.Hell, stuff like Cowboy Bebop was hard science fiction and even that felt way less dystopian than a lot of science fiction airing now
I used to think we are either heading to Fallout or Star Trek, but then I realized Minority Report without the telepaths is our current future,
>>540965541>not sex with shran
>>540967490
>>540966463Most of my examples weren't DS9 specific, just mentioning them. How far we going with this? TOS the crew is getting paid. They talk about earning their pay. So is it cashless or not? If not, then utopia is kind of out isn't it? These guys are just sitting in a boat to collect their government gibbs. But Okay I'll give it a shot. Measure of Man. When they judge Data's humanity. He wasn't given a chance to just walk away. He if wasn't a man, he wouldn't be under contract or the federation's property. He if was, the whole ordeal was very distopian. The Tribbles seller, independent trader who renounced federation citizenship gets jailed because he sold the wrong pet to a stupid broad. others also jailed with hard labor for "crimes" committed outside federation controlled space. The Prime directive means the federation constantly watches the worse suffering imaginable and does nothing to help them. Just watches like freaks. The Empire would feed them, protect them, give them hyperlane access, and a seat in the senate.The federation's art and literature scene is so bad, everyone reads the same 10 renaissance era books and plays one of 4 classical composers. There are maybe 6 available haircuts The only way off world is on a doomed colony mission where you'll probably get mind controlled by some retard alien baby, or by joining the military, where you will get killed because they only beam 4 people down at a time and you don't have the experience yet to even recognize danger, as your entire existence up to that point has been managed to reduce threat signals and conflict. You were constantly monitored. Your private diaries could be searched by anyone and you wouldnt even be notified. The federation built things like team of lawyers were on their ass, secondary backups, redundant redundancies. New tech is almost never adopted, tech is only improved upon invention has stopped, Hence data being made in secret away the tyranny of the feds.
>>540958584
yeah because you chuds are slaves to capitalismstar trek is a communist utopia
>>540967858Yes
>>540958584Utopian stories are boring. What are they going to say?Tuxilix was content with his breakfast. His wife, Marillinosita, sat and watched knowing it was as good as it could ever be, a morning full of eternal delights, free from strife. They watched each other as the hours past.A utopian society has to come in contact with strife in order to be interesting.
>>540967858TOS isn't, TNG is, DS9 isn't. They flipflop on capitalism depending on the show runner and episode.
>>540958584How utopian would pic related be?
Because those who promised an utopia delivered a dystopiaWhy the fuck would you try to cling to past delusions when the reality in front of you tells the polar opposite story?
>>540967911the entire setting is based on post-scarcity universal welfareat least have the brains to argue that it's pointless to base society around something as fantastical as the universal replicator
>>540963601You forgot someone
>>540958584By the way. I've been on that bridge
>>540967890>Utopian stories are boringdoesn't have to be. You can still have conflicts like natural disaster, external threats, character interactions. Just flip the phrase "Dystopian Stories are interesting".....ehhhh no. Most of them suck. Most stories in general are boring. It all comes back to the execution. Is the writing good? the acting? The rest of the presentation? You can have a utopia, one maladjusted or bored kid wonders into the forest and gets lost, a team of citizens try and save the child. You could write a banger, you could write a stinker. the utopia element doesn't play into it other than the initial setup.
>>540968125Right, that's what I was trying to say. Utopian on its own is boring. You have to introduce strife.
>>540968026The replicator is shown having tubes full of goo. Its just assembling/3d printing food out of base molecules. Its not a pure energy = matter. Again they flip-flop on this every series and episode. But whenever they fix one, its tubes of goo. That doesn't seem fantastical as they can do that with fake meats on an industrial scale right now. The people universally think it tastes bad as well. Characters refer to "real food". Its the "government cheese" or MRE of that future.
>>540967890>Utopian stories are boring. What are they going to say?You can have fun stories with a setting that isn't a shitty future you know?
