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NAFOids say Russia is weak and incompetent but also say it's 5 minutes away from invading and taking on all of NATO?

What causes this?
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>>540961971
retarded russian choices
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>>540961971
>5 minutes away from invading and taking on all of NATO?
competence is not required for such an action.
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>>540961971
NATO also being weak and incompetent
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>>540962048
How so? Their choices make them look weak but militarily they are not?

>>540962101
Key word here "WEAK" an incompetent, weakness implies it can't take such a large action.
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>>540961971
Thry are afraid of jews
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>>540962221
Who is?
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>>540961971
Russia is weak. But the problem is that they have a mentally deranged leader who might unironically still attempt to invade, bomb and possibly even nuke other countries, even if it's just some desperate attempt to destroy as much as possible.
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>>540962145
So NATO is projecting it's current state?
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>>540961971
did you know in Cold War US fed USSR with grain when Russkies year after year had failed crops
they could starve them instead
Big Bad Scary Enemy is useful for domestic propaganda
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>>540962365
Sounds like you think that every country is ran by crazy women on anti depressants.
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>>540962365
Well if they are weak as you say then their invasion and bombing would also be weak, which shouldn't be a problem for big bad NATO now should it?

Also isn't calling someone with nukes "weak" contradictory? Maybe weak of will sure, but physically weak? I wouldn't say so.

>>540962618
>Big Bad Scary Enemy is useful for domestic propaganda
And to justify budgets, they also fed the Russians in the Cold War because both sides are controlled by Freemasons who united against Germany.

>>540962685
The EU technically is.
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>>540962890
>Well if they are weak as you say then their invasion and bombing would also be weak, which shouldn't be a problem for big bad NATO now should it?
It could be a problem in the sense that useless killings will happen, but it's not like Russia will actually be able to take anything meaningful in any country in EU. The threat of nukes is the only real thing they have, and is why the west hasn't just attempted to outright kill Putin.
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>>540961971
NATO is even less capable and competent somehow.
See the shitshow in Iran where people hail using all of your bombs on a school full of children as a tactical victory.
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>>540962365
>might unironically still attempt to invade, bomb and possibly even nuke other countries
how does helping Ukraine mitigate this?
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>>540963181
>how does helping Ukraine mitigate this?
Because Russia has exhausted most of their shit in Ukraine now, thus they are much weaker overall if they attempted to invade another country. Not to mention that morale among their soldiers would be in the fucking gutter if Putin announced that they would be sent to another open frontline in another country while they are still failing to take Ukraine.
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>>540963012
>It could be a problem in the sense that useless killings will happen
Since when has NATO been worried about useless killings? Did you even see what they did in Yugoslavia?

>The threat of nukes is the only real thing they have
Then i guess they really aren't weak now are they? To maintain an arsenal like that a country needs billions in funding, their economy might not be good but it's stable enough to maintain nukes.

Also i personally think the west hasn't gotten to Putin yet because they're all in the same club.

>>540963013
That school incident in Iran happened after they burned the Moloch statue, it was a sacrifice.
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>>540963342
>Since when has NATO been worried about useless killings? Did you even see what they did in Yugoslavia?
That shit was like 30 years ago. Things are much different today.
>Then i guess they really aren't weak now are they?
Nukes are scary, but the rest isn't that scary. It would be like trying to claim that North Korea isn't weak overall because they have nukes.
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>>540963341
>Because Russia has exhausted most of their shit in Ukraine now
War has evolved beyond raw numerical manpower and mechanized brigades, one man with a few drones can do much more damage than your usual tactics, so loosing soldiers doesn't mean to much now (as Ukraine has shown us).

They also gained combat experience more valuable than any form of training and are still gaining it, the West has no sustained combat experience with this type of hybrid fpv drone warfare which is why they refuse to put boots on the ground in Iran, read Proverbs 27:17.

As for morale they can always pull a false flag which riles up emotions, for a country with a deep history in communist propaganda psychology i don't think morale would be an issue, they are already used to being miserable.

>>540963615
>That shit was like 30 years ago, Things are much different today.
The Minab School says otherwise.

>It would be like trying to claim that North Korea isn't weak overall because they have nukes.
North Korea and Russia have national unity while the West doesn't, this is because we've spent the last 80 years condemning Nationalism as "le ebil Fascism", the average Nork may be weak compared to the average European but they have that WW2 Japanese level of fanaticism which will make things bloody.
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>>540962365
>they have a mentally deranged leader
Even if you disagree with the Russian policies and their view that Ukraine in NATO is an existential threat Putin is infinitely more rational than any person in power in the West. Some hardliner could have already launched strikes into European NATO countries, if anything Putin is considered by many Russians to be too soft and moderate with the Europeans
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Make Konigsberg great again!
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>>540964295
they are retarded. The main war is going on in the air defence. Ukraine is sending thousands of drones and rockets per week. They are designed by the best the whole NATO. Only 1.5% drones manage to get through and hit the targets, and only civilian like fucking wilberies. All new rockets are intercepted. This success rate is going lower and lower and the costs of AD for Russia. It is pretty much 1 to 1 cost now to defend against hohols with new cheap stuff and layered AD through the country. The recent American Bumblebees with AI were a thing only for less then a few months. Russia adapts faster than NATO invents new shit and at an increasing rate. Basically the Russian hit rate constantly increasing and Ukrainian decreasing. Which means the longer it is going the worse will be the consequences for the coalition of the willies.
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>>540964433
>Russia doesn't the capability let alone the will to take over all of Ukraine let alone invade the Baltics or the Poland
They have the nuclear capacity to steamroll everyone but not the will to use it.

>It's also better to focus on an external threat in order to unite the continent rather than to focus on internal issues.
Yeah i noticed that to, their strategy is to kill the population before they notice the shitstorm they created.
>picrel

>The Germans are already discussing openly that traitor states that vote wrong in state elections are not to be trusted with the decision-making processes and they're speedrunning more powers for the intel agencies.
Inner fragmentation is a very bad sign, but it could also be an operation egineered by the agencies to gain more national control, i think western glowies envy the fact that the eastern glowies get to have more say and direct control over their countries.

>>540964597
>Putin is infinitely more rational than any person in power in the West.
He is waging a hybrid war, i don't want to pull up the 5d chess meme but i think he know's what he's doing to an extent, the current Eurocrat seething tells me things aren't going their way.

>>540964689
Define great.
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>>540964824
>The main war is going on in the air defence.
America always likes to boast about their air superiority so this development might shake them slightly.

>Russia adapts faster than NATO invents new shit and at an increasing rate.
This is the scary part (Proverbs 27:17), they also do it on a much lower budget than NATO.

NATO is bottlenecked by the Military Industrial Complex, a good example was the whole Javelin and Himars situations with Ukraine, and notice how you no longer see as much "Saint Javelin" spam as before.

>coalition of the willies.
At this rate they could become the coalition of the kneeling.
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>>540965358
America tried and depleted their AD in week, yes. And hohols are sending sarms ans rockets non stop. Just as much as could be supplied by 52 countries. Still there are less and less significant hits on any military targets. Also Rassvet satellites are getting deployed and already operational like for one hour per day, not much of them so far. Starlink jamming becomes more effective. If you don’t take into account all the soldiers that are dying meanwhile this is quite good developments in russian military, they would never do all this shit in peaceful time without pressure. Shoigu was just doing fake military parades for a decade with all the investments, that is why they failed so embarrassingly at the beginning.
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>>540962407
NATO is powerful enough so much that it don't need to desperate help xoxols to win the war :)
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>>540961971
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>>540966528
>Still there are less and less significant hits on any military targets.
Their strikes are more for PR purposes than tactical, they made a big smoke cloud in Moscow and think they are winning, however they fail to learn the golden rule.
>picrel

>That is why they failed so embarrassingly at the beginning.
The parades inflated their ego and they forgot the golden rule just like the Ukranians did.
>picre again.

>>540966579
They always use the hands of others to do their dirty work, very cowardly but modern warfare is no longer about honor.

>>540966690
Their Project Mockingbird media campaign is in full effect to this day.
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>>540961971
European Chauvinism at this point requires an immense amount of delusion. Anything is believable once in this state.
'White Supremacy' is essentially the same and will be utilized in similar ways to manage the decline.
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>>540966993
All nations are Chauvinist to an extent, but America and NATO's Chauvinism is more obnoxious and belligerent in particular, they act like a Redditor on the world stage.

>'White Supremacy' is essentially the same and will be utilized in similar ways to manage the decline.
Read the picrel here >>540964849
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Fucking hell, zignog shills are going all out the last couple of days; will this shillstorm stop russia burning though ? Or boost the Russian economy maybe ? Do they think they won't be mobilized if they post more dogshit than usual ? Hard to know what the rationale is here, what with it being russians, ie totally fucking retarded - perhaps one of you fucking fags could explain tho ?
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>>540961971
>What causes this?
Mass psychosis

Anyone who thinks Russia has a more successful mass manipulation of the psyche of plebs , than the West does, is simply---
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>>540967315
>0 counter-argumens
>hurrr you're le shill durrr
That is ad hominem fallacy saar, you should also resume your date with the roastie.

>will this shillstorm stop russia burning though?
PR smoke cloud strikes aren't that tactical but k.

>Or boost the Russian economy maybe ?
You pay rent to Blackrock and can't afford a home lmao.

>Do they think they won't be mobilized if they post more dogshit than usual?
Cool, when do you sign up to help Ukraine?

>Hard to know what the rationale is here
I can ask the same about the West.

>>540967404
The west just stole Communist Psychology tactics, an example is the glowies here calling everyone close to the truth Schizo, which is straight from the Communist playbook of calling dissidents Schizo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union
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>>540967618
Also, read up on Edward Bernays and his use of 50% of the population (women) to do as he pleases Of course it's easily extrapolated to government, as the 50% still applies. Ipso facto, you can control any "democratic" government. Convince powers that be they're acting in self liberation, and you can pretty much do anything

i.e. convince women they're breaking their shackles and you can make them do whatever israel decides.
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NAFO troons support literal Nazis in Ukraine
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>>540962151
>feigning ignorance
Yeah, russians really did train the filth column here. That kosher argument style really shines.
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>>540961971
Both. As weak and pathetic russia is, europe is ten times weaker and more pathetic.
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>>540968058
Edward Bernays is quite the redpill, it also doesn't help most of the EU Government is Women (the the demographic most susceptible to propaganda)

>>540968110
Kosher nazis.

>>540968115
>doesn't answer the question
And stop projecting your stolen commie tactics there, it's usually the lefties who pretend not to understand, i asked a genuine question.

>>540968194
Tough words from a memeflag, if both Europe and Russia are weak then who is stronk? U.S boots on the ground in Iran when?
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>>540964597
>Europe should thank Putin for not murder-suiciding the entire continent
Wow
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>>540968284
>Europe should thank Putin for not murder-suiciding the entire continent
Unironically yes, that is more of a Kosher tactic reserved for the West's greatest ally.
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>>540968270
>U.S boots on the ground in Iran when?
Never
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>>540968458
Das rite, because they know damn well that they will become an example like Russia in Ukraine, Americans like to talk shit because the've never fought an fpv drone war like this.
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>>540968284
https://www.businessinsider.com/we-followed-a-drone-from-uk-factory-to-ukraine-frontline-2026-8
https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-begins-using-uk-drones-to-strike-targets-deep-within-russia-times-reports/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/uk-drones-russia-ukraine-strikes-b3034594.html
it's moving that way. If Ukraine becomes simply a launch platform into Russia for drones manufactured in Europe sooner or later they'll hit back at the source.
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>>540968619
The russians have always been more lenient of europe but i also don't want to stop europe, let their hubris do the work lmao, let the Eurocrats poke the bear and learn.
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>>540962151
You clearly don't understand how this works. Weakness is what makes actors do stupid/desperate things. The weaker your position, the bolder strategy is needed to shake up things. Take Japan for example. They attacked Pearl Harbor out of desperation. They always knew they could never win against US in any prolonged military capacity. But the oil embargo was fucking up their Asian expansion capacity so they hoped that knocking out US Pacific fleet would make them sue for peace or make some deal, and buy them some time. And as we know, the gamble didn't work out. Like, at all.
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>>540961971
Niggers are subhuman retards but that doesn't stop them from attempting to break in to your house. You would be a fool to not invest in proper door locks and shotguns.
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>>540969030
Is bundling like this really effective? I don't have much communication with full botted individuals so I'm not sure.
Ironically, the akshual lessons from history become invisible with this sort of strategy. Oh well so swell.
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>>540969030
>Weakness is what makes actors do stupid/desperate things.
What Putin is doing isn't stupid or desperate from a geopolitical standpoint, he has been fighting in Ukraine since 2014 and only recently decided to up the antics because the West overstepped their lines with Chutzpah.

>The weaker your position, the bolder strategy is needed to shake up things.
Is that why Ukraine did the recent PR Smoke Cloud strikes in Moscow?

>And as we know, the gamble didn't work out, Like, at all.
Russia isn't a small island populated by grain fed bugs.

>>540969099
Weakness and incompetence implies they either don't have the strength/know how for that and if they do you could stop them easily, so if they are so subhuman why the 2 narratives? NATO boots on the ground when?
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>>540969099
>Niggers are subhuman retards
uuug, edgy.
>18k oot alaik'inen



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