Australia is often the guinea of of globalist policies and cited as proof to Americans as an example of a "new system" that works well, there's some things i think Americans might be interested to know.Starting with Australia's ATF
The ATF, from our point of view, is like a neiche tax office for interstate excise controls which militarised itself into an illegal federal marshal. Rather then collect tax they started imposing defacto bans on legal goods and services, rather then suing business they imposed criminal charges, rather then report to federal police they started conducting paramilitary operations at state level. Obviously this didn't work out for America, so both pro and anti gun groups ask questions about other counties administrative arrangements.
>>540966670so theyre holy templars? better call the inquisition
I thank the dogs Canada's enforcement on the F part is so laid back and lazy a gun ban here is just a blip that nobody cares about
Australia's tax works very different to America's so our tax departments are set up differently. Our reserve bank is fully state owned, and actually holds reserves, but our federal mint and Gold exchange are privately owned. And our federal revenue is my mostly governed by the ATO which is like our IRS. Very few taxes are not managed by the ATO, most being either geographic state levies, or national trade levies.This means firearms taxes are all basically split between federal liscence, and state levies. So we DO NOT HAVE a specific firearms enforcement agency. And this creates the interesting situation where state and federal police are both legally empowered to carry out firearms related arrests. In practice this is dictated by how scared they are of whoevers gun they're trying to steal.
Distribution backgroundThere are a lot of lies spread about this, exploiting how our licences and statistics are different. In the US the general ownership rate is heavily skewed by gun collectors, who might easily own a hundred guns. Only a fool would equate that to a hundred gun owners. And due to the ease of obtaining a firearms liscence many Americans maintain one who don't actually own a gun. Notably pensioners. Average age of acquisition being 25, but average age of liscencee being 55. So in the US a huge number of pensioners are liecenced but don't shoot, may not own a gun, probably couldn't actually use a gun if they have one, or couldn't remember where they put their gun. And ownership is also heavily skewed by region and rurality, after we take out individuals who own more then 15 guns we get a general distribution.In Australia it's punitivly difficult to maintain a liscence, specifically to discourage elderly people retaining moot liscences while physically losing their guns. Collecting guns being essentially banned, your looking at middle aged Australians in rural areas owning about 2 guns.But this means the general ownership rate is curiously similar, if we seperate collectors/hoarders, and inactive/senile owners. And in some contexts that's important.
>>540967773We don't really have a firearms license in America. A few states have some weird laws but for instance nobody I know who owns a gun has a license to own it, nor could they even get one because no such thing exists where they live.
>australia's ATFmore like the GAYtf
>>540967925You guys liscence the gun itself as a kind of taxable commodity, like a vodka bottle, simply because someone must pay excise on it they all have to be serialised, and thus the IRS ends up as your federal firearm regulator, and they palm it off to the ATF as a kind of militarised tax collector. The issue of state/ federal tax took precedence in the US over enforcement considerations.
>>540966225>guinea of ofHaha, you fucked it.
>>540968960Well you said >And due to the ease of obtaining a firearms liscence many Americans maintain one who don't actually own a gun.and that doesn't really make any sense with what you're saying now. Like if you want to say that the gun itself is a license to own it then sure I guess but I have no idea you'd maintain that license without owning a gun. It's just nonsense.
Trafficking Trafficking here is very different to in the US, because there are sort of three reasons a gun is trafficked and the profile of traffickers is very different. A. You have an unregistered gun owned by a registered owner, as a licence violation. So an old rifle which just doesn't happen to be on the list, or wasn't previously registered, so carrying more about faking statistics then their jobs the regulators refuse to swap someone for, or exempt. They have a 100% seizure policy. Nothing is grandfathered. On paper you face 8 years in prison, so bent are they on reducing the number of guns in the country.B. You have modified weapons, almost always a stolen gun that's been sawn off. C. AOW. if this category seems laughably broad, oh boy. You're going to hear some shit. The trafficking we don't have is straw sales, not a thing, doesn't happen, the rest of the world really can't fathom why someone can walk into a Walmart, buy a gun, sell it privately in the Walmart car park to some other random person, who can then just drive it to a drug house and make a $50 doing this over and over, so a nigger can shoot aimlessly at some other nigger and throw the gun in a storm drain every week. That's a very specific kind of crime nobody outside the US has, which to us, is sponsored by Walmart.
>>540969235This goes back to the tradition of bending statistics, refusing to collect statistics, deliberately false comparisons.In Australia you have to have to hold a personal licence to own a gun, so our ownership is basically licenses+illegal owners. In the US is legal by default to own a gun so what you collect is registered gun sales, and that's it. Which tells us nothing and so often NRA membership is cited. Let me just put it out there that this is retarded and outside the US nobody gives this even momentary credibility. If what we are trying to measure is the number of Americans who own guns, we look at guns manufactured less export, less stockpile/registered sales, less unlawful disposals. This is because the US illegaly exports millions of guns every year, and for our purposes a Mexican gang banger is, or isn't, an American gun owner based on where they're standing.
What's does "guinea of of mean", mate?
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I'm happy to be the bigger man here and admit that I made a mistake.
Sigh. A filter.
What people like you don't understand is civil issues.
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