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why do 4chan defenders of capitalism become agitated and evasive when you ask them "so, how much do you make a year"?
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>>540985784
Because anyone can lie you retarded fucker.
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>>540985854
someone prepared to lie would freely respond and not dodge the question.
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>>540985926
What kind of retarded fucking logic is that?
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>>540985979
how much do you make a year?
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>>540985784
capitalism allows you to isolate yourself from bad actors
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>>540985926
Communists are always prepared to lie.
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>>540986033
Did you know it's impolite to ask that?
How old are you ffs?
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>>540985979
more logical than 'people who lie always have to conjure up a lie then and there'
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>>540985784
i am working on building my own company. i make 0 dollars a year, but plan on making 5 mill in a years time. i will get bought out. gg nerds
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>>540986078
>Did you know it's impolite to ask that?
no this is just a lower middle class thing.
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>>540986115
what does the company do -- sorry, i mean aim to do?
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>>540986153
I notice you didnt mention your age.
What exactly do you base your assertion on?
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>>540986173
I've already made a PCIe and PCI card to do something cool (if i tell you what it does you can search for it and dox me, it's the only PCIe card with kernel driver to do what it can do, so no thanks)
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>>540986195
i turned 37 a few weeks ago.
>What exactly do you base your assertion on?
talking personal finances and money with my colleagues at work. discussing equity based compensation incentives with people who are higher up the ladder.
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>>540986269
>equity
Retard detected.
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>>540986223
what's the use case? industrial general purpose, test equipment, specialized instrument for laboratories, etc?
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The Capitalists were hiding the truth - people REALLY make too little to live.

In the last few months people started breaking the brainwashing dam and posting their paychecks on the internet - YT , tiktok.
Turns out they are right , you can't live on that paycheck.
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>>540986309
i don't understand what you're getting at. i also don't understand why someone who supports capitalism would reject the idea of equity compensation incentives.
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>>540986333
industrial and general purpose. retro people are freaking out about it
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>>540986058
The main concern with Capitalism is that it's only as trustworthy and moral as is imposed on it by outside regulation. Left to it's own devices, it will absolutely seek the most diabolical circumstances in search of Profit, just like water will seek it's lowest level. It cannot be effectively contained by the moral strength of individual men, the Corporate Structure deflects moral responsibility onto the company itself, which becomes like a pagan God, only seeking to "compete" and "beat last year's quarterly results".

The problem in this era is that Corporation has insinuated itself completely into the outside bodies meant to keep it controlled, it really has nothing to mitigate it's natural immorality.

tl;dr It's a great engine of Progress, but it has to be impartially supervised by Law.
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>>540986409
sounds cool. good luck. nice to see someone doing something with hardware instead of SaaS vibeslopped codetrannydom.
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>>540985784
capitalism is a marxist term, and owners of capital may have an income that varies wildly year-to-year. They might even lose tons of money some years. That being said, I personally make about $0/year.
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>>540986485
the middle woman in that video founded the company. another curious case of 4chan capitalists being outraged at a woman who created jobs, innovated, provided value, etc.
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>>540986474
thanks anon.
yeah, i taught myself EE so i could make it (already knew programming) because no one else said it was possible so i spent 2 years researching, building and developing hardware and kernel driver to make it work.
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>>540985784
It’s embarrassing to be poor as a man but you can still support the only real viable model. We all hate communism here cause we know it’s retarded.
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>>540986485
I work at a General Mills Nature Valley plant, it's about 20% women, and 95% of them have multiple children. And the few who don't are either lesbians or thirsty for a family.
I pull about 65k a year monitoring (outdated) equipment, with nice benefits living in a low cost corner of a Red State. My rent is $550 a month for a spacious 2 bedroom with a garage, I'm not looking to buy because I'm inheriting a 3 bedroom on a lake from my boomer parents (I am already on the Deed).
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>>540985784
Capitalism is bad.

>T $300k salesman
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>>540986458
This anon is CORRECT.
As soon as you make the game
>"whomever makes the most money wins".
As soon as 0 (ZERO) moral grounds or constraints are attached .
Then you are going to have the entire group of rich elites filled with killers, scammers, fraudsters , gangsters, mafia, jews, jeets and chinks.
>scammers
Because how do you make the largest amount of money?
When you stole a product.
When you scammed and it's a cheap chinks made junk.
Food example - when food quality is SO BAD that even bacteria doesn't eat it , so it stays on the shelf for months and years .
Planned obsolesce.
Largest margins - legal and illegal drugs, guns ,
etc.

Obviously none of the honest people can make the most money and compete in this game.
So, your entire rich elite is filled with this.
The only way to stop this is to have rules, regulations , laws, and constantly apply them.
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>>540985784
Do they? I've never noticed.
Besides, we're all anon here so any answer is what ever anon wants to give, not really any point in evasiveness, is there?
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>>540986740
Yum! Foods is a prime example of the corporate structure gone wrong. It's taken so many enjoyable restaurant chains and ruined them through a combination of penny-pinching, neglect and low standards, it only exists to collect franchising fees (rent).
The KFC here went from a great place to eat to an absolute dump that's generally empty, along with a couple of other Yum! franchises.

Even giants like Boeing are not immune to the caustic effects of corporate bean-counting.
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>>540986775
I've lurked on 4chan for ages, and I believe the rough average here is a 300k a year STEM graduate with a 9" penor.
It's like a message board for MIT alumni here.
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>>540985784
I could make zero a year and I'd still socialists to be round up and shot en mass
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>>540985784
azxc
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>>540986864
It's worse,
IN the 90-ies, the cigarette mafia bought a bunch of food companies,
then they moved their scientists over who made cigarettes more addictive.
And they told them to make food more addictive and make people buy it in larger quantities.
>why do you buy food in larger quantities?
>because, for instance, it is nutritionally poor, it has low vitamins and minerals, etc.
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>I think capitalism is the best idea
>How much do you make?
>See how that's relative I mean I must make a very large amount if I'm talking about capitalism!
So your hypothesis is only poor people like capitalism?.... Got to say you sound fucking retarded
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>>540987133
Late stage Capitalism sees Worker Compensation as the absolute worst thing on their cost pie-chart. It's the one thing that really upsets them. Materials are coming from other Capitalists, sometimes within their own umbrella. Energy, other heckin' gud boi Capitalist kangz. But they stare at all the inputs that deprive the heckin' based Shareholders of maximum profits, and they keep seeing Compensation, like an ugly stain on their perfect design.
The idea that well-compensated workers sharing in the benefits of productivity and efficiency seems alien and wrong somehow. That they'll be future customers buying the product to to fund further expansions.

No, since the Reagan Revolution, the sole and holy mission of the Corporation is to increase Shareholder returns every quarter, above and beyond any other reasonable concern.



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