this confuses and enrages /pol/
>>540989624yea, because you injected the jewish form of itwhat part of synagogue of satan did you not fucking understand?
>>540989624I've always felt drawn to collective and public values. I love sitting in a public library, in a public square, having the freedom to record and speak in public. The tension of the vast majority of capital-producing private property is very anti-human.
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>>540989624But it is not. People voluntarily share the resources only within close family groups. You aren't saying that the whole human population across the globe should be no more than a couple of millions and it should comprise only a handful of families, are you?
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>>540989624Communism ONLY works when everybody knows everybody. Ancient human tribes did NOT have a central government that took from one village to give to another village. Completely and totally dishonest.
>>540989883>>540989982
>>540989624>return to stone age; CommunismI don't think this really conveys the message they think it does.
>>540989624>they're all the same colourThis enrages the lefties
>>540989624Prove it, faggot. Communism didn't exist until Engels and Marx developed the theory based on what they observed of businesses of their days. They played a logic line that hasn't worked in practice, ever. The closest was literally the NDSAP in Germany in the 1930's and 1940's, but that was called fascism since property ownership was allowed. The idea of possession is what is the root motivation of capitalism. In order for it to work, everyone needs access, not the perception of it.
>>540989624why is everyone in the image the same race?
>>540989624Extrapolate that to a giant nation of million and you only get despair. We know this. It's not even an argument. You child minds only see what you choose. You cling to ancient dogma and mulled over, deployed, and murdered ideas and still act like they're useful. They are as useful as you are. That is to say not useful at all. If all you can do is go backward then you are dead and may as well just die.
>>540989624If OPs tried as hard to make good threads as they do to find matches on Grindr, this site would be so much better.
>>540989624Let's see how long the best provider stuck with it.
>>540989624>claims communism>shows high trust tribalismyeah
>>540989624Leftoids confusing communialism with communism. In caveman society, if the cavemen saw someone brown on their land, they would fucking club them to death as an invader on tribal territory. Resource sharing would never happen.Is that what you want?
>>540989624Crapitalism hypersped technological development
>>540989624I'm a socialist at homeI'm a conservative in city politicsI'm a libertarian in state politicsI'm an anarco-capitalist in national politics
>>540989624The Bible depicts natural human inclinations as being so violent and evil that we needed to literally wipe the slate clean with an arc of pure humans to survive and restart the world again. So anyways Hitler said they were animals and-
>>540989624We also attacked other tribes, wiped out all the males, and took all the women as sex slaves back then.
>>540989624truthChristianity and Capitalism ruined humanity
>>540989957Tribalism is our natural state which is how most of the world lived up until hart-cellar. Small towns were basically tribes and now they're being intentionally destroyed with destruction of small industry and shitskin resettlement into them
>>540989624That is not communism lol.Have you ever looked at a single communist country?
>>540990617>Bibleall fake garbage and completely falsemaking human nature default "sinful" is the entire reason why you all hate yourselves
Communism - failSocialism - failClassical and neo liberalism - failSocial liberalism - failConservatism - failCapitalism - failFeudalism - failSlavery - failMonarchism - failFascism/Nazism - failWelfareism - failTheocracy - failWhat do we try now?What comes next?
>>540990822Clanism*You moron
>>540989624>50000 years ago human society already had gulags, torture prisons, political police, forced labor and mass starvationNot really, buddy.
>>540989624>natural functioning tribal family of a dozen people>it's like muh heckin' Marxism! Let's apply it to millionsFucking kill yourself
>>540989624we were also extremely racist and murderously suspicious of outsiders and anyone who looked slightly different from our little group of 150. Based.
>>540989624>shared food, raised children together.yeah, that's just a normal family, retard. notice the presence of a father, and the lack of niggers and trannies.
>Jebel Sahaba>Talheim>Schletz-Asparn>Nataruk>Aurignacian cave paintingsIts almost like war is part of our species.
>>540989624Well that's retarded.
>>540989624>muh gulagI swear to god, Jews promote communism so that boomers with chapped lips and a prolapse full of jewish cum could point at it after being fucked daily by capitalism
Tribalism isn't the same as communism. Would you describe a traditional family as a "small communist society"?These people are retards, their shitty ideology always leads to dictatorship, ALWAYS. It literally can't do anything else, as society where every decision has to go trough a vote is too inefficient and giving a single person power with only one party in control, is a tale we've seen the result of too many times.
>>540989624Communism is an international version of socialism. People who practice localized versions of “communism” while fight external threats would be closer to national socialism or more accurate tribalism. Niggerkikefaggot.
>>540989624Slavery came before communism
In Grundrisse Marx explicitly differentiates between a "primitive communal" mode of production that had not yet developed productive forces, and post-capitalist communism. OP is disingenuous faggot.Marx is wrong for a whole host of other reasons.
>>540991247>Communism is an international version of socialism.Technically "communism" is an utopian idea that was never even close to become real. It's imagined as a class-less society without and crime and conflict where everyone is happy and free. According to Marx there will always be a phase of socalist dictatorship after the revolution and before it then - somehow miraculously - transforms into communism. What, of course, never happend in reality.
>>540989730Least mentally ill anti-communist
>>540989735I like passive aggressive acts of vandalism against public property. Anything from petty theft (stealing a book or a pen from a library), to graffiti, to taking shit in between the bookshelves, and jerking off and leaving cum behind in the books is fine by me. Public spaces are always trash, and they're trash for a reason.
>>540989624Why doesnt it ever work then op?
>>540989624Progress is human nature and Communism is a step back.
>>540989624So if I want to go back to shitting outside, dying from a tiny cut, and women looking and smelling like a hairy man, I should advocate for Communism?
>>540991492Stealing a book from the library is the most nigger behavior ever.
>>540989624They were small homogenous communities with strict behavioral controls. People depended on each other not for food or shelter but for defense.
>>540991492>and they're trash for a reason.Because people like you are cumming all over the place? Go be a nigger somewhere else.
>>540989624aka: "I really really love communism but I would never ever ever ever move to a communist nation."
>>540989624>egalitarian80% guys in the tribe didn’t have kids because the 20%er chads made them useful slaves There is nothing “egalitarian” about nature at all lol
In theory all systems work but the problem always is the corrupt (((elites)))
>>540991932You're thinking of early agrarian societiesAnd they likely quickly flew out of control and were the reason why enforced monogamy became a thing
All tribal societies are warlike, patriarchal, spiritual and hierarchical. Fascism is a much closer approximatiin of the natural humanstate. Communism is the perfect antitehsis to the human way. Averything commhnists want is something that humans intuitively reject. This is why it has to hide behind a million political fronts which try to spread communism by fooling and manipulating people. The perfect triumph of communism means perfect destruction of all human ambition. As humanity naturally works against it, it can never be achieved.
>>540990868>What do we try now?That's not how shit works. Ideologies don't rise and fall because someone wants to "try them". It's changing material conditions.
>>540990896They definitely had mass starvation and forced labor, and you can't have gulags or prisons because they couldn't build shit. They also had mass slaughter, total genocide, and lots and lots of rape.>>540992025The disgusting proles don't behave either.
>>540989624It's not human nature. Communists are subhuman.
>>540989624>Egalitarian cooperative communitiesNearly 100% of the male population had killed. Nearly 100% of the female population had been raped. Incest was commonplace. Life was nasty, brutish, and short. Karl's delusions about "Pre Class society" (Itself a delusion, lobsters have classes, and strict hierarchy, it predates even man.) are just that, and in his gay book make claims about societies we knew at the time had very rigid organized societies, forts, military histories, nations, slavery, and all of the other signifies of late tribal societies. Capitalism is inherent to not just human nature, but the nature of a central nervous system. The moment we start seeing brains across every genus we start seeing hierarchical behavior. We don't even have to look at creatures with such advanced social stratification as ants, or wolves to begin seeing this. Crabs, and Prawns don't share. Crabs that are smaller than their peers can be given SSRIs to cheer them up. This shit is so deeply engraved in our biology that it cannot be removed. You will always have the big dog.
>>540989624But they lived in tribal units with warlord strongmen as the leadersThe default human form of government is the same as a pirate ship. Results-based dictator with a chance of violent mutiny.
>>540992025In theory all jewish systems are inherently unworkable and can neber succeed in this world because they are tailormade to destroy this world, and because they are all cheap knockoffs of kaballah which do not even TRY to identify real political issues and provide real political solutions. Communism literally does not have a political theory to back it up, it's a larp with no real meaning behind it, a mere shadowplay.
>>540992025Sure, but some systems, like capitalism, empower the corrupt elites and other systems don't.
>>540989624Anyone who thinks there wasn’t a class structure even during the cavemen is beyond retarded There will always be a hierarchy
>>540989624Literally every single ancient civilization has a class system with literal slaves at the bottom though. Communists are fucking retarded. Kek.
>>540992119>They also had mass slaughter, total genocide, and lots and lots of rape.Is this now and argument pro or con communism? lol
>no electricity>one drumstick for 5 peopleThe only inaccurate thing is the man in charge sharing
Leaving aside the utterly bullshit version of pre-historic peoples, communism isn't people sharing shit, it's an ideology predicated on an exorable dialectical movement towards the dictatorship of the 19th century factory-worker-class.
>>540989624then, so is tribalism.
>tribalism = communismHow can these people be this dumb?
>>540989624>communism is human nature>communism is evil we've known that since the day the LORD created the universe in seven days, six-thousand years ago.Libcucks really thought they had something here lmao
>>540992265corruption in communist systems was so common, that it became a movie trope.
>>540989624Nigger, not even apes live like this. Fuck off.
>>540992503Oh shit, well if it was in the (((movies))) then it MUST be true
I will now vote for a sanpaku eyes openly anti-white woman/brown/boomer candidate who wants to take the stuff and earnings of middle class working people and redistribute them to someone else. They want to kill people like me and take my stuff, but they have awesome takes like "things should be free for everyone" and "capitalism has flaws". You have my vote.
>>540989624This would only work on a small scale with similar people. Not on nations with huge populations that are constantly importing browns by the millions.
>>540989624>being an entitled little shit that wants big daddy government to control them only to cry and play victim when corrupt daddy government fucks them overyup, that is very human.
>>540989624And the decisions we made included whose children to sacrifice and which out-group we wanted to kill and/or enslave.Checkmate.
Btw just because people living in communities up to maybe 200 people and having to share out of necessity, and looking after all the kids because there were no dna tests, doesn't mean people are going to voluntarily live like that nowadays and they have every right to kill you if you try to force it.
>>540990083You should edit it to make the man white, all the females of different ethnicities and the child to be a blue eyed mulatto.
>>540992721That sounds a lot like merican epstein fueled rampageism
>>540992306>argument pro or con communismIt's against the myth of the noble savage and kumbaya bullshit and whomever uses it. In this case it's an annoying commie.
>>540989624>There was no class society in the neolithic>There were no hunters, farmers, fishermen, warriors, toolmakers, wise women or medicine men, chieftains, and the chieftain's house guard/inner circle >There weren't members of the tribe more revered than the others for their skills and knowledge, and they didn't have a bigger pool of resources and protection as a resultCommunism relies on useless retards living in perpetual denial of their uselessness to function as an ideology kek
>>540989624Billions of dead due to communism prove this is false.
>>540992932It's more like your people's very early history, Germoid.
>>540992861Why?, homogeneous society best society.
>>540989624More like nigger nature
>>540989624What is stopping people from having a communist group where everyone is working for free? It should be all over the place since it's "human nature".
>>540989624I'm not angry.I'm not confused.I'm calm and rational and clear in my position on this matter.total commie deathno mercyno exceptions keep pushing for your little revolution, commie. you'll get more than you bargained for. and even if your side won and even if you survived the fighting you wouldn't survive the starvation. but even if you did, living in a commie hellhole would be a just and fitting punishment. but why wait? Why not move to a communist country today? why stay in this capitalist hellhole when there are several communist and socialist utopias around the world with thriving and diverse communities? it's because the destruction, misery, starvation, and death are precisely the entire point of the communist agenda even if those who espouse that agenda are too gullible and stupid to understand it.I say again:>total commie death>no mercy >no exceptions
ahahahano we killed the shit out of each other, you silly goofballethnography is one of the most useful sciences we've developed, and it emerged out of an understanding that people are extremely differentlook no further than jebel sahaba, dating all the way back to the pleistocene, it's a graveyard were 41 out of 61 individual remains were victims of war - several with projectile lesions and several with healed injuries that showed violence was commonplace. or nataruk, if you prefer, 10,000 years old AND african so it should satisfy your weird magic brown people fetish. a group of hunters were ambushed and died suddenly, and their corpses show projectile, blunt force, AND penetrative damagethere was also division of class by respect evidenced as early as 34,000 years ago by the tombs in sunghir, where some corpses are given extremely elaborate, solitary burials while others are given shabby mass graves, especially among richly furnished juvenile graves. some kids got expensive funerals, even 35,000 years ago! wow! and!ache, hadza, !kung, lamalera and meriam all show reproductive inequality as well, with hunters having more children than farmers, tailors, craftsmen, and the likeit's almost like personal property and in-group preference have always and will always be human nature and overcoming that nature requires literal divine intervention
>>540989624this ugly AI art meme is correct, but it's a nonsequitur on many levels>doesn't mean that if you remove capitalism, communism would be emergent>"before class society" = stone age>other stone behaviour: cannibalism, eternal tribal war, rape, disease, ignorance, parasites everywhere....>empirically, class behaviour still exists in communismalso because communism, like islam, tries to impose both politics, (empty jew) spirituality and economics at the same time it is difficult to just have economic communism.But the real highbrain take is to understand that communism was just a jewish takeover.Communism doesn't work and nobody is really interested in pursuing it because it's so shitty. What they use the spector of C. now is just for presenting this two pronged shitty zio sandwich.>you can have either communism or capitalism, goy!Collective thinking is rational, divinely sanctioned and based. But this doesn't mean to reach out to off the shelf solutions from the kosher deli.National Socialism is the way for White peoples.Sieg Heil.
>>540989624Modern genetic testing has fully rejected the "state of nature" argument. Prehistoric humans were vicious murderers and rapists. At least 20% of all males died from homicide in prehistoric societies; not counting "replacement" events such as that which occurred when Indo-Euro tribes conquered and "replaced" the locals in what is now Europe, or when Bantus overran the Pgymy tribes of tropical Africa. In both cases over 90% of gene lines in the locals were terminated, only female sex slaves survived to reproduce or a miniscule degenerated relic population in the case of the pygmy's. Genocide is the norm and not exception in prehistory.The natural state of humanity is absolute poverty and endless war. Everything we have today is a result of a hundred thousand years of rejecting the natural state and imposing our will on the world.
>>540993022So you evolved backwards?
>>540989624The male is at the top of the hierarchy there
It worked when societies were 10 people and they all had to contribute or else you get thrown to the wolves. They also had to fight other groups for resource rights and territory. When groups come together to form larger collectives, you need a better way to keep track of contribution, and that's capitalism.
>>540993410At least we evolved. Germans never stopped their civilization-wrecking behavior.
>>540989624Communism may not be human nature, but it is the christian thing to do>inb4 he who does not work shall not eatwho said you don't work for the common good under communism?
>>540989624The primitive human collectives you describe did not have taxation. In accordance to your own theories of what is natural, I demand that communists abolish all taxation.
>>540989624I would get behind communism if they actually where for the working class and not a bunch of literal faggots and troons bossed with queer Marxism and old school tankie would put a bullet in today’s communists brains.
>>540993359>Everything we have today is a result of a hundred thousand years of rejecting the natural state and imposing our will on the world.Yet the Epsteinclass is still abusing and sacrificing kids, they're still here too
>>540989624> communism will bring us back to the stone ageSeems about right.
>>540993598II never here commies talking about getting rid of taxes or ending the fed or irs…its always tax the rich which ends up hurting the middle class and lower classes. Why do commies love statism and taxes?
>>540993603>Implying the average member of the working class is a rural oil worker and not a retail worker or blue-haired barista with pronounsKek
>>540993757How are they going to run a civilization that’s all ready collapsing ?
>>540989624>want to live in squalor and shit like a caveman? Be socialistKek
>>540989624You've purposely confused communism with the nuclear family.Hang yourself.
>>540993706because taxing the rich is more realistic than the things you are talking about. at least for now.
>>540993706Fed and irs are the Peoples property then, problem is, when you hear planned economy, shut very loud fuck no!!!!!
>>540989624You have confused communism and community.
>>540993881The collapse is inevitable. There's not a single group of people on earth that can prevent it at this point.I'll tell you what though, I'd much rather take my chances and survive what's to come with a community of depressed queer socialists than deal with antisocial ruroid freaks.
>>540991492>Public spaces are always trash, and they're trash for a reason.
Why do redditors keep talking about punching nazis because they're violent but never tankies
>>540989624Those communities were homogeneous, shlomo.
>>540989624you gotta have everyone contributing not shaniqua with 8 babies and 8 baby daddies doing nothing but raising criminals
>>540989624>First of all the deathless gods made a golden race of mortal men who lived in the time of Saturn when he was reigning in heaven. And they lived like gods without sorrow of heart, remote and free from toil and grief: miserable age rested not on them; but with legs and arms never failing they made merry with feasting beyond the reach of all evils. When they died, it was as though they were overcome with sleep, and they had all good things; for the fruitful earth unforced bare them fruit abundantly and without stint. They dwelt in ease and peace upon their lands with many good things, rich in flocks and loved by the blessed gods.
>>540989624>gets ruled by hook nosed tribe leader
>>540994744Like now?
>>540989624If the world was one big family the murder rate would quadruple.
can I correct the retardeness in this thread? there was no fucking communism in the ancient world.if you had no force you got fucked int he ass. losing your stuff and also in the best case scenario get sold as slave.
>>540989624>1 post by this faggot
>>540989624okay grug, now go back to your cave
>>540989624If you think the best hunter or the tribal chieftain wouldn't rape your wife, kill you and get away with it just because he liked your sandals, you are retarded. I want to kill you and we have never met.
>>540989624>da joos browns blacks etc.Quintessential Europeanism. Still it can't derail the path.
>ctrl × f>"gom">0 resultsI am beyond disappointed.
>>540992221Marx rejected rousseauian ways of thinking of "primitive man" ... he had always accepted that humans have been in a classed system. Which was one of his main flaws in his logic, that humans didn't have classes for most of our history, we have tribes that squabbled or organized to resources and food. Human history is more about a dualism of cooperation than anything else...
>>540989624>what is trading between tribes? Yeah? Well they also had slavery, should we bring that back too because Unga Bunga did it?
>>540990481This exactly here. Commies jsut don't get it.
>>540992119Communists hate nothing more than the white working man.
>>540992221>the jew lied in his book designed to mislead gentileswho woulda thunk
>>540989730this.the jew ruined it. the jew is the #1 problem.
>>540995459But it was invented by a white man who wanted to empower the working white man
>>540992306>Is this now and argument pro or con communism? lolonly a jew would wonder about this
>>540989624>pre-agricultural revolution peoples experiencing constant resource scarcity were egalitarian Communists actually just should be shot, if only for being so historically and scientifically-illiterate.
>>540995583your like will be gutted like a fish and fed to the dogs alive when the blessed day of justice comes. in our lifetime.
>>540989624we literally wouldn't have survived the ice age without communist cooperation and then the weather got warmer so people started being cunts. Cooperation is our true nature
>>540989624At what point in this egalitarian cooperative community was one tribe made to give up all of its resources for a smelly nigger tribe that wants to kill it?
>>540989624>When humans were less evolved
>>540995723>it's modern to exploit each otherno it's just selfish and immoral
>>540989624>egalitarianGtfo with your jewish slop. Any community worth shit is a patriarch. Like the Amish.
>>540989624>"before class society">implying a giant monstrous and totalitarian genocidal government regime which starves and mass murders millions and prohibits free thought and expression and even simply describing the world around you or even making music etc comes more natural to humanity than the actual organically developed societies which developed in the thousands of years before some German shithead named Karl invented the commie mind viruskys OP and take out as many of your Chinese/Russian commanding officers with you while you're at it
>>540989624>>540995811Also this was/is family oriented. Not the anti-family, state-dictatorship of communism. Kys you vermin.
>>540995723>less evolved...cooperating with one another is less evolved? wut?
human nature is shit though
>>540995626Heh you got nothing
>>540989883>>540989982>>540990013Italians are literally jewish by genes
The concept of ownership exists in toddlers btw
Communism. So great that in over 100 years you can't even cite one example of it not being a corrupt failure.
how does putting greedy jews in charge equate to life before jewish finance thois that what you think communism is? no money? lol. read the fucking book. its only like 30 pages long. compete jewtopian fiction, but will probably appeal to jew worshippers, since putting jews in charge is so implicit to their belief system.
>>540995811Are you Indian? you write like one
>>540996014
I don't really know what to think about communismI guess that Marx theories are kinda based butI still don't feel good about it especially knowing what Soviet did to my countrySo yeah, also what OP posted would stick more to anarchoprimitivism then communism
>>540996014I think that honestly Vietnam is pretty chill
>>540996139Always stay loyal to your country. A Pole hating communism is understandable unlike faggot western kvetching from Ameriniggers, Shitalians and Potato niggers from Ireland who never had communism.
>>540996003In toddlers that wasn't raised by anyone it exists too? No offence just asking cuz it may been shown by their parents/culture to them as something obvious
Communism probably doesn't scale well. Ted K said something smart about this I bet
>>540996014wanna try it without the constant harassment from outside Capitalists? Cuba has been terrorized by the USA for decades and you all say "wow, look, socialism is le bad" when it's always been under sanctions or outright blockades like now
/pol/ mutts will defend a system that benefits Jews above anything else Average IQ here must be around 75
>>540989624You are correct, capitalism isn't natural. Prosperity and equal rights aren't natural as well. Poverty, death, and rule of the strong - those are natural.In cavemen times it was the strongest ones in the tribes who were making all decisions and fucking any women they wanted, at any time they wanted.If you were weak and disobey you got clubed and/or raped.It wasn't until money were invented when an individual could own something themselves. After all, you couldn't hide food as easily and long term as you could hide money (gold and silver back in the day) in a hole in a ground only you knew about. This is when individual no longer had to rely on the strong because the individual had a valuable information - the location of hidden money.You can thank the invention of money for your unnatural prosperity.
>Communism is human natureWho were those communities made up of? How many?
>>540996392I honestly have a feeling that OP would not survive 2 days in a natural commune
>>540996483>Communism is human nature, Capitalism is not natural>Look inside>OP just shows what family is like
I don't think communists have any right to appeal to nature when they had to forbid the study of genetics for their retarded ideology to make sense.
This is the biggest lie a communist has ever told. Communism is antithetical to human nature because we all want to benefit from the fruits of our own labor, communism turns everyone into a number on a spreadsheet, stripping them of their humanity. This is why it always fails. Any time some lying scum-fuck commie tells you anything you should beat the shit out of them and chase them out of town like you would a snake oil merchant.
>>540996561and then when families and tribes started agreeing to cooperate with each other, they bartered and traded... oh wait lol
>>540989624stealing from a capitalist?
>>540996626private corporations never turn people into numbers on a spreadsheet lol, next you'll say monopolies are somehow communism
>>540990822Communists would be retarded enough to believe all those shitskins they imported would see them as part of their tribe, because they backstabbed their own tribe to let the shitskins in.
>>540996628Laugh out loud!
>>540996750Shuck and jive and squirm all you want, faggot, communism is antithetical to humanity itself. Kill yourself you perfidious faggot.
>>540996228I haven't looked at a study or anything but I imagine it would. I don't think that observations made by young parents on how attached really young children get with items they interact with would be as universal if that wasn't true. Moreover, while evolving, "communities" as op put it (or tribes) would be often in conflict with one another over sparse resources, so the ones that would survive were the ones that could acquire and defend their resources the best. Meaning that if anything, ownership was a good instinct
>>540996786lol, you mad?
MARX WAS A FAT LAZY NECKBEARD FAGGOT KIKEEVERY ASPECT OF COMMUNISM IS JEWISHFUNNY HOW THE GAZA FAGGOT BRIGADE ISN'T IN THIS THREADBUT WE ALL KNOW YOUR FAGGOT KREMLIN KIKE COCKSUCKERS ARE HERE
>>540989624It works (sorta) for Families.It doesn't work for a mix-of Niggers - Jews - Faggots and Rape-Spawn?
>>540989624>Racism is human natureBefore classicism (which is a misnomer, even apes have classes) mankind guarded their territory and things from other tribes while taking slaves from those other tribes or being enslaved in order to consolidate more territory. Eventually, this led to the biggest tribes forming massive societies that are impossible to break away from.
>>540989624How is this any different than paying taxes and having services provided?Even in commie countries everyone was looking out for themselves. But I'm always told that wasn't true communism.
>>540996786So gay LOL JK
>>540989624>work and share with your close kin group, build lasting advantages for your family and genetic lineage>work and give away your money to basedboys in government places so they can import more niggersThese things are not the same. Every form of government that doesn't specifically cater to its constituents but caters to imaginary others needs to be eradicated and its proponents publicly gutted.
>>540996628I know right kek
>>540996870It's sad that there would be no study about it propably cuz of moral reasons (that are resonable we can't give children trauma just to say something that is not so imprortant)
>>540989624It was anarcho-fascist national socialism not kikemunism
>>540989624>human nature>made by a fucking jew LolLmao even
this confuses and enrages no one
>>540989624That's communitarianism, not communism. >Communitarianism is a social and political philosophy that emphasizes the importance of community in shaping personal identity, moral values, and public life. It argues that human beings are fundamentally social creatures rather than isolated individuals, and it balances personal rights with civic responsibilities for the common good.>Core Ideas>Social identity: A person's character and goals are shaped by family, culture, and local groups.>The common good: Society should prioritize shared values and collective well-being over unchecked individual desires.>Rights and duties: Every individual right comes with a matching duty to support the community. Communitarianism heavily embraces decentralization, viewing the centralized bureaucratic state with deep skepticism because it tends to turn citizens into passive consumers and erode local social bonds. Instead, state power is restricted to make room for, protect, and empower local communities.
>>540997349Thank you bro
>>540997290kek such a study would indeed be retarded
>>540997624Nothing bro, that has been historically our traditional social and political structure from ancient times until today, and fuck communism, socialism, capitalism and everything else for always trying to poison it.
>>540989624ancient humans were murderous savages like niggers, no one is buying this nigger shit
>>540989624Rape murder pillaging animalistic behaviour is also "human nature"(((communism))) is the default jewish political system
>>540989624Where it unravels is bix noods demanding communism with White families. Multiracial communism will always remain something beyond the reach of the redditor. National Socialism having your own race run your own people is the only way. The nigger, the pajeet, and the jew will always seethe at this truth.
>>540989624Unrolls a cartoon of cavemen to show you when communism worked
>>540989624>why don't the goyim have the same familial bonds with complete ethnic, tribal and cultural strangers?The greateat feeling in the world is knowing that communist governments can never surrender their absolute power because people like me will immediately work to dismantle it. As a reault they have to maintain a totalitarian vicegrip that ends up killing communists by the millions. Even if I am unable to prevent this rot from taking root I still take comfort knowing I will meet my spiritual brothers in the afterlife and we will congratulate eachother on causing hundreds of millions of communists to kill themselves via purges, starvation and paranoia; forcing our enemies to denounce their life's work as a failure and "not real communism" :^)
>>540989624before class society, humans killed strangers, especially niggers on sighttolerance isn't natural --- it is imposed
>>540989730>>540989735>>540989883>>540989957>>540989983the problem isnt communism or capitlismits democracy90% of people shouldnt be anywhere near a voting boothdemocracy gives them the delusiona that they can vote for every stupid shit that comes into their moronic heads
>>540989624because it's labled communism but the description is of communalismsee the former is a political theory involving large state planning and macroeconomicsand the latter is what any cooperative humans make before there's enough of them to need tribalism or another tech to manage the disputes
>>540999468you mean the communism that is constantly sabotaged by outside capitalist influence? that communism?
>>540999935then 90% of people are completely outside the state and should be treated as such but since you won't leave them alone you are expected to provide service
>>540999935Democracy isn't a centralised system, it's rooted in communitarianism, and those voters you speak of aren't really part of your community it seems. So the problem isn't democracy but what you made of it. >Greek communitarianism is a historical and political tradition. It emphasizes the self-reliant organization of society through local communities, assemblies, and collective decisions. It is a key element of Greek political thought, connecting ancient direct democracy with the self-government of modern times. It begins with the city-states and Athenian democracy with the participation of citizens in decision-making. Communities function as cells of survival, self-government, justice, and collective taxation. This tradition often clashes with the centralized Western-style state.
>>541000116Uhhhhh I don't think coca cola was demanding the KGB arrest and/or execute people for jokes.
>>540999935Weighted democracies (as in your vode influences most what you have expertise in it and novel and well explained positions get counted as more valuable) or pure algorithms as leaders are both better but near impossible to implement
Kek. I will sometimes point to the naturally occurring form of communism in the human (or any animal) family as the strongest argument against communism, because it is not incidental that everyone is related to everyone else. One cares and provides for HIS kids, not somebody else’s. One does not need a gun to his head to feed his kids. He has the natural incentive to do so cause his kids’ well-being and survival is in his interests. They are his progeny. The same thing scales to a small community - a collection of families, 1) because of the same affinity for every member, and 2) because your failure to contribute or pull your own weight will be noted by every other member. The tribe is small enough for everyone to note every other member’s position and contributions etc. but it doesn’t scale up infinitely. You can’t do the same with a county of 300+ million people. Communism doesn’t work because deep down, nobody gives a shit if some random person far from him genetically or socially lives or dies. So the gun to the head is mandatory. I absolutely require a gun to my head to pay my taxes, but if my entire world was a community of a couple hundred people, this gun wouldnt be necessary. Id pay and id feel good about paying.TLDR communism doesn’t work because nobody gives a fuck about other people too far removed genetically/socially. This can not be remedied because we are self-interest driven animals. The center of my universe is me, and the radius is small. I dont give a shit what happens outside its boundaries, certainly not enough of a shit to incur a substantial personal cost.
>>541000766Algorithms, even if they are always approximations (but for the sake of the argument let's assume they were perfect), will be tailored towards optimising resources based on risk data, and trick people into believing that absolute predictability is more valuable than abstract civic trust, and this will lead to a chilling effect.>A chilling effect is the phenomenon in which an individual, organization, or group is prevented from exercising their legal rights, leading to self-censorship in the form of the restraint of information sharing or the abstinence from certain activities. This self-censorship is driven by the fear of potential repercussions and harm if actions are taken.In the context of a soscity this will cause it to rot from within as it stops all the organic life needed to sustain it, i.e free speech, protests, association with groups, willing compliance and trust in official narratives.
>>540989624Fake.
>>540989624Imagine being retarded enough to believe this. Humans lived in tribal groups led by an alpha male whose word was law and they crushed your skull with a rock while you slept if you disrespected them. Fucking morons. I hate communists so much its unreal.
>>541001392If we assume that every political decision can have an optimal outcome, then the perfect algorithm would always make that decision. We could probably say that in pursuit of this optimum, some variability and some control towards the people would be given. Im not saying this is doable, but rather that it technically could exist
>>540989624>this is communism>posts tribalismWhat did he mean by this?
>>540989624That's before there were 8 billion people on the planet you stupid kike.
>>540989624That's not communism, that's a kin group.Thanks for pointing out we were all once 100% ethnically oriented.
>>540989624>implying grug didn't stack berry>implying f*males didn't come to grug and big berry stack once deer meat market collapsedgrug say fuck sharing tribe, they want grug berry that grug worked hard for
>>540989624I think it would be great if whites did a communism to their enemies. Am I wrong?
>>541002393Grug also kept a harem of five she-Grugs, let’s not forget that. If commies (women, usually), want to appeal to nature, they ought to be accurate about it. Not that they don’t want to live in harems - they do.
>>541002649One of the things that makes humans interesting is that harem-forming and pair-bonding behavior have both been observed in primitive groups.Normally for animals it's all one or the other.Humans are somewhat unique for our ability to do both.
>why we give grug so much food? we kill mammoth, all grug do is make bone necklace and pelt from mammoth skin. kill mammoth matter most. grug have no job in tribe if we not kill mammoth! we tribe job creators! all meat belong to us!>zug, we talk about this seven moons ago, you not remember? grug not kill mammoth, but grug make bone necklace, make tribe happy to have necklace, we use necklace to trade with other tribe, necklace bring luck to hunt. grug make pelt to keep tribe warm when ice season come. grug keep cave clean. we kill mammoth, but we no survive hunts without grug. grug can not do job with no food. and grug not eat much meat anyway. why zug need so much meat? zug no eat all meat anyway, if zug take all meat to cave corner, meat will stink in two moons and kill zug if eat!>meat is mine! grug job not meant for grown of tribe, grug job meant for tribe child until child ready to hunt! grug job easy! i make necklace myself!>zug, why you not make necklace if so easy?>it not matter! meat mine even if i not eat all! grug get no meat! he no hunt meat, he no eat meat! grug no hunt! grug not do real job! grug must starve! zug think grug must use shoe straps to pull him up!>pull up by shoe straps? have rock hit you in head, zug? you begin to sound like man from longnose tribe. you not remember what happen when we trade with longnose tribe?
>grug out on hunt with other men>grug see men with black skin>grug wonder why skin is black, does black skin man and his tribe not wash dirt off skin? is it clay like grug put on his skin to look good for mate?>grug ask hunt leader about black skin tribe>hunt leader seen many more moons than grug, he older and wiser>hunt leader say “Stay away from black skin tribe, we go hunt somewhere else”>grug curious, but listen to hunt leader because he older and wise>grug and hunt group kill big mammoth, enough to feed tribe for many moons>grug so happy>grug feel rock hit head. hurts!>grug see black skin tribe throwing rocks at grug and grug hunt group >grug offer meat to black skin man, black skin man take meat and say “Oonga boonga munga!”, put hand out wanting more>grug confused>black skin men start throwing rocks and yelling>grug hunt leader yell “Run!”>grug arrive back at tribe cave>grug so thirsty>grug go to river, start drinking, then notice black skin men doing poop and pee into water>grug spit out water>four moons later grug feel sick and almost die>now grug really confused >grug ask tribe elder about black skin tribe>tribe elder say “Grug, if see blacks must not relax. We move to new cave”>grug mad, but listen to elder>grug see black skin tribe move into grug tribe old cave>grug try to speak with black skin tribe but they throw rocks>grug now in new cave with tribe>grug see longnose man>longnose man no throw rocks, offer to trade>longnose man have many shiny rocks and shells, wear nice animal skins>grug tell elder about new longnose friend>elder eyes go wide, he yell at grug, say “NO, GRUG! No talk to longnose men! Never ever! We move again! Now!”>grug later see longnose man give shells and shiny stones to black skin tribe at old cave of grug. why black skin tribe no throw rocks at longnose man?>grug now confused, mad, tired, hungry>grug hate black skin tribe and longnose man so much
>>541002761Absolute proof of NAWALT? Are some girls… special?That must have something to do with the intensity and duration of infatuation, if it isn’t local constrains like food supply. I can’t keep a harem of 5 girls and produce 20 kids if I can only feed like 4 people.
>>540989624that's not communism.that's a despotism.i'm right, you're wrong, fight me.
>>540989624Communism works great if you're on Land of The Lost or Gilligan's Island, sure. A totally isolated environment with just a few people working towards a common goal probably works great as communism. In the real world, you have corruption, nepotism, greed, and ladder climbing people that make it a hellscape, and eventually introduce cool facets of communism like government sponsored genocides.
>>540989957>You aren't saying that the whole human population across the globe should be no more than a couple of millions and it should comprise only a handful of families, are you?Personally, I am.
>>540989624It doesn't scale. You are a failed experiment.
>>540989624Rape, slavery, and murder is also human nature.
>>540989624Lol. No.
>lefty/pol/ claims to be against AI>nonstop raiding of /pol/ with AI slop>1pbtid
>>540989624That is retarded. Hunter-gatherers were small group of average 30 family members. It's like saying that family is human nature. That shit doesn't scale to millions of strangers, like retard commies like to pretend against all practical evidence. The problem with nature is that losing 50% of kids is also human nature. That is why women can have so many kids and need contraception to avoid being swamped by 12 children.
>>540989624Say "I Died Ruled By Horny Goy Girls."
>>540989624You ignore the raiding and murdering of outgroups.
>>540989624Shut up jewboy. Fascism is human nature. That is the default system humanity always fall back on when shit goes bad. Man is not born good. There are only two incentives, love and fear.
>>540989624Human societies were orderly and hierarchical (aka fascistic) in nature before the post WW2 liberal world order was imposed. Fascism is natural, NOT your egalitarian “everyone is equal” jewish bullshit, you absolute reddddit-brained hook-nosed kike.
>>54100491780 IQ post
