>Brent oil is 87.00, pre-war was 67.00, not even close to 100>Can't sell oil on market due to Naval blockade>Cardboard Ayatollah>Even CNN has to admit you're losing control of the Strait>Gas station lines/rations>Food lines/rations>Iranian proxies losing : Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis"At the moment, however, the evidence is clear: The United States, patrolling the strait with its navy, is gaining ground – and Iran is losing much of its control of the critical waterway.More than 80% of vessel transits through the Strait of Hormuz over the past two weeks have taken the Omani route – a UN-authorized shipping channel that Iran vehemently opposes – according to Kpler, which tracks ships using transponders and satellite data."
>>541011571so you are saying the fifth fleet can dock at Bahrain
>>541011571>"At the moment, however, the evidence is clear: The United States, patrolling the strait with its navy, is gaining ground – and Iran is losing much of its control of the critical waterway.so how does this benefit the average American compared to the previous situation where you could just go through the strait?
>>541011571>>Brent oil is 87.00, pre-war was 67.00, not even close to 100The U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR)—the world’s largest emergency crude oil supply—has fallen to roughly 293 million barrels, its lowest level since 1982, following major drawdowns authorized to offset oil shocks from the conflict with Iran and disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz.
I hope all this copeposting is worth handing democrats the country for the next few decades.
>>541011571>>Can't sell oil on market due to Naval blockadeIranian state media and officials state that national crude production has been heavily maintained despite the maritime conflict. Official state updates note that loading operations successfully resumed at the western terminal of Kharg Island following brief disruptions caused by the regional geopolitical crisis.Rather than stopping transport, regional logistics entities and independent tracking data point to alternative, sovereign rerouting strategies:Sovereign Rerouting: Iran is bypassing regional blockades by expanding its maritime transport networks through the Caspian Sea and utilizing increased loading activity at the North Larak anchorage.Bilateral Trade Expansion: Joint logistics data shows that wet-cargo transport between Russia and Iran increased roughly 2.9 times over a 164-day span during the friction, rising to approximately 437,000 barrels.Strait of Hormuz Restrictions: Top Iranian negotiator Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf and state military commands issued official warnings that if external blockades continue, Tehran will exercise its strategic right to fully close the Strait of Hormuz to non-compliant commercial traffic, demanding that all active tankers follow strictly designated Iranian navigation protocols.
>>Even CNN has to admit you're losing control of the Strait>Even CNN>implying CNN isnt a dog of zion networkLol ok Boomer>>Gas station lines/rations>>Food lines/rationsOnly on Fox News lol>>Iranian proxies losing : Hamas, Hezbollah, HouthisSee above. Why are you always like this?
>>541012168>something is happening>Jews declare victory>it continues to happen>Jews declare victory again>it's still happening>Jews declare it's over and they won>it continues>Jews yet again claim victory>the thing that's happening continues to happen>someone clarifies that the thing is continuing to haopen and thus, by definition, Jews have not "won">Jews put on theatrical exaggerated performative display, slinging emotive insulting language around while brazenly declaring their victory yet again>the thing that's happening continues happening>Jews declare victory once again>the thing is still happening>Jews say they won and anyone who says they didnt is [insult] [Jewish enemy group]>the event which is transpiring yet again continues to transpireWhy are Jews and Jewraped goyslave shabbos goyim like this?You realize you cant employ chutzpah bloviation pressure against reality itself, right?It's wild to see these heebs and their MIGA BoomBoom jewraped goyslave shabbos golems out here acting like they legit think a combo of obviously-seething performative Jewish/BoomBoom bloviation and posturing will change reality - though I really suspect it's just an attempt at public perception manipulation, demoralization fodder for opponents and remoralization attempt for the insanely-small MIGA BoomBoom contingent, the apparant existence of the latter of which I earnestly believe is requiring ever-increasing levels of dead-internet kosher-jeet botspam to cover for an ever-deindling contingent of goyslaves sufficiently jewraped to buy this kosher rhetorical bullshit.
>>541011571Why crop it thus?
>>541011571>even CNNAn American kike propaganda outlet? You think they're pro Iran lamo?
>>541011571>Be Migger>Lose war to goat humpers
>>541011571Cute that you posted this here as soon as it showed up on CNN feeds.
>>541012372>More than 80% of vessel transits through the Strait of Hormuz over the past two weeks have taken the Omani route – a UN-authorized shipping channel that Iran vehemently opposes – according to Kpler, which tracks ships using transponders and satellite data.Skepticism regarding Kpler's data is a valid reaction to a highly complex information war. The current numbers reported by private tracking firms are at the center of a major public dispute between the U.S. government, independent analysts, and regional actors.The primary reasons behind the discrepancies—and why you are right to question the completeness of the data—stem from technical and political factors:The Discrepancy: Private Trackers vs. The U.S. GovernmentWhat Kpler Reports: Kpler's current data indicates that traffic through the Strait of Hormuz has plummeted to historic lows, recording a 5-day average of just 10 to 14 ship crossings per day (down from a pre-war average of 130).What the U.S. Claims: U.S. Energy Secretary Chris Wright publicly countered these figures, arguing that private businesses are heavily undercounting ships. The Trump administration claims total Arabian Gulf energy exports are actually averaging around 15 million barrels per day, insisting the U.S. Navy maintains "total control" over an open strait.
>help me I'm winning!
uh huh. two more weeks
>>541012691Suspicion is entirely accurate—the "80%" figure is highly misleading and presents a classic case of "lying with statistics" to serve a political narrative.A closer look at the actual data reported by CNN Business reveals that the network framed a massive collapse in shipping as a victory for the U.S. government.The Mathematical Trick Behind the "80%" ClaimThe claim that "80% of vessels are getting through the Omani route" relies on changing the baseline of the data:The Reality: Total traffic through the Strait of Hormuz has plummeted by roughly 80% to 95% since the conflict began. Instead of over 100 to 130 ships per day, independent data from Kpler and the BBC indicates the actual number of daily transits has hovered in the single digits or low teens.The Spin: The "80%" cited by CNN does not mean 80% of normal global shipping is successfully getting through. It means that out of the tiny, trickle of remaining ships daring to cross the strait, 80% are clinging to the U.S.-backed Omani corridor rather than the Iranian-designated route. CNN took a statistic about traffic distribution and presented it in headlines as a sign that "Iran has lost control," making an empty strait look like a functional, open waterway.
>>541012853Conflicting Reports on the GroundIndependent regional data actively contradicts the idea that the Omani corridor is a bustling success story:The Route is Empty: Reports from regional monitoring groups like WANA and maritime data from MarineTraffic have noted that the Omani corridor frequently drops to zero to three ships per day following IRGC threats and targeting.The U.S. Government Paradox: Ironically, while CNN uses Kpler's data to bolster the narrative of U.S. naval dominance, the Trump administration itself has criticized private tracking firms. Energy Secretary Chris Wright argued that private trackers are heavily undercounting ships because major Gulf nations are running "dark" shadow transits with transponders off to evade Iranian attacks.
>>541012887CNN Senior Business Reporter David Goldman is Jewish, as evidenced by his academic background, but there is no public evidence or record regarding his personal political stances on Israel.Editorial Context & Key InformationBackground: According to his official CNN profile, Goldman holds a joint bachelor's degree from Columbia University and the Jewish Theological Seminary, a prominent Jewish institution in New York.Political Stance: Goldman covers global markets, energy, and corporate strategy rather than Middle Eastern politics or diplomacy. He does not have a public record of advocacy, statements, or commentary regarding support for Israel or any specific geopolitical factions.Corporate Reporting: In his current coverage—including his August 18, 2026 piece on CNN Business regarding the Strait of Hormuz—his reporting heavily relies on aggregating statements from oil analysts (such as Andy Lipow) and tracking firms like Kpler.
>>541011571It was around 59.00 prewar, not 67.00. Trump 2.0 has been an utter disaster for our country.
Fine OP fine.Too bad USA doesn't border Iran, the invasion on US territory would be violent and bloody.So instead we'll just have to attack the next best thing (israel).
>>541012372>trust me goy, Iran is finished!!
>>541011571Diesel status?Jet fuel status?>doubled in price
>>541013032lol how has that worked out for you so far, i mean, its been L after L for you mudkikes since that oct 7th tantrum you threw
>>541013244See>>541012266Jews have completely lost the narrative.Your seething venom has no power, your boldfaced lies now just act as further evidence driving people toward the inevitable outcome of another massive wave of global pogroms.You vile goblins are losing. And thats a very good thing.
>how has that worked out for you so far, i mean>what do young people/gen z/alpha, especially young white people/ think about israel?Young Americans (Gen Z and the emerging Generation Alpha) are significantly more critical of Israel and more sympathetic toward Palestinians than any older generation.Polling from major institutions highlights a historic generational divide on this topic. While the shift away from Israel is true across all racial demographics under 30, young white Americans remain slightly more sympathetic to Israel compared to their Black, Hispanic, and Asian peers, though they are still far less supportive of Israel than older white Americans.The Generational DivideData indicates that the gap in opinion between older and younger Americans on Israel is larger than the age gap on almost any other major political issue, including abortion or climate change.Skepticism of Israel: National tracking polls, such as the Yale Youth Poll, show a massive 56-point generational swing. While Baby Boomers lean heavily pro-Israel, Gen Z respondents view the country negatively by a net -22 points.Sympathy for Palestine: Polling from NBC News and the New York Times shows that roughly three-quarters of Gen Z express more sympathy for Palestinians than for Israelis.Views on Israeli Policy: Unlike older demographics who largely support U.S. aid, a strong majority of Gen Z and Millennial voters support placing restrictions on U.S. military aid to Israel.Perception of Zionism: According to the Yale Polling project, young voters under 30 are more likely to define Zionism negatively (associated with racism or apartheid) than as a legitimate movement for Jewish self-determination. Only 30% of young adults believe Israel should exist explicitly as a Jewish state.
>>541013471The Specific Age/Race Trend (Last 3–6 Months)The "Collapse" Phenomenon: Historically, young minority voters leaned further away from Israel due to domestic social justice parallels. However, recent crosstabs indicate that minority youth sentiment has remained relatively flat or slightly cynical, whereas young white adults have completely collapsed in their support.>young white adults have completely collapsed in their support.>>young white adults have completely collapsed in their support.Out-Pacing Minority Youth: In recent polling tracking opposition to Israel's military actions and U.S. aid packages, young white independents and college-educated white youth register net-unfavorable views of the Israeli government that exceed the unfavorable margins found among young Black and Hispanic demographics.The Institutional Shift: This is why university-level polling (like the Harvard Youth Poll) shows such stark numbers. The campus protests and heavy anti-Israel sentiment over the last several months have been heavily concentrated among white, college-educated Gen Z lines, driving their specific demographic numbers past the baseline of minority youth.>>541013244>how has that worked out for you so farConclusion: When you isolate the demographic cross-section by age, young white Americans are currently expressing the sharpest anti-Israel sentiment, outstripping the rest of their generation.>El Oh El
>>541011571This is Iraq 1991-2003 all over again. Most /pol/tards are still babies and don't have a grasp of how meticulous the Bush administration basically suffocated the Saddam regime to death, not allowing them to export oil which crushed their economy, not allowing them to fly over their territory, denying them access to their ports, etc. The same suffocating principle which crushed Iraq and allowed a quick and easy invasion is being applied to Iran.
>>541013354>jewsboy are you off by a mile but lets pretend im 77 jews in a robot nigger suit made of spic rivets...what does that change at all for you? you seethe you tantrum you get spanked rinse repeat...stop larping little faggot mud colort skin is no excuse to act a nigger. faggot.
>>541013621You should enlist btw
>>541012003The market will quickly find a solution to the oil problem because it's not like oil is something that's hard to produce. Actually it's way too easy to produce and we have OPEC because of it. Shortages are always temporary (can be resolved from weeks to month) unless Iran can basically destroy every oil facility nearby but they're impotent as hell so it's not happening.
>>541011926implying you'd still have free passage after iran achieved untouchable north korea status
>>541013803Looks like they have achieved that status and it is now only the israeli loyalists who are blockading anything
>>541012168>hamas isn't disarmingyou are here>here's how hamas can rearm at any time
>>541013733Already did my duty. I don't like how Trump is tarnishing the NATO alliance but it doesn't change the fact that the Iranian regime is a net negative for the world and should be taken out.
>>541012853thanks gemini
>>541013621China and Russia have their back they are not gonna run out of shit
>>541014028No and kys
>>541011571>Number of ships going through drops 90%>Of the tiny amount still going through a majority sneaks it with the help of us navy>Iran has lost control of the strait goys! Pay no attention to overall traffic being deadSo when does ship traffic return to prewar levels? You realize how pathetic the trickle coming through the strait rn makes the us navy look right?
>>541014087>China and Russia have their backKek
>>541012034You underestimate the attention span of the American people as well as just how much the two parties differ.Bush was a fucking disaster and embarrassment. People felt hopeful with Obama but he continued the endless wars in such a shitty way that people turned to Trump. No matter who is in control, the money will keep flowing to Israel.
Does President Trump realize that Iran and North Korea are besties?
>>541013910no, that would require equipment to produce highly enriched uranium, which has been destroyed. or the ability to re-acquire that equipment, which they can't because we can return and destroy it again with total impunity.or it would need a conventional shield like the ability to shoot 100+ missile swarms overwhelming conventional defenses - which they had for two days in march until we destroyed that capability too. in b4 you confuse harassing the gulf states with the kind of capability I'm actually referring to.if we hadn't acted when we did, they would have crossed that last threshold, and it would have become a lot more costly to intervene in the missile program. we would lose ships. we still can't totally write off that possibility which is why we're not done and your use of the past tense is premature.
>>541011571https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYtu1GEc-nA
>>541011571>80% of ships bypass Iran's routeCare to share with the class what the total number of ships transiting the strait is?
>>541013803>noooo iran can't have nukes only we can have themeven pakistan has nukes, it does not effect the average american at all
>>541013621Im old enough to remember. I said it before. And anyone who thinks "boots on the ground" wont happen, are PROBABLY wrong. and if you think the dems will stop this, better think again. the DEMS have never seen a war they didnt like. Congress has never seen a war it didnt like. Tell me the war congress DIDNT fund? All that matters to them is who gets the juicy juicy trillion dollar contracts. Right now the dems are getting nothing, because they have no control. and all a win in the midterms means is the republicans have to cut the dems in on the deal .... then the dems will be 100% behind it. the dems didnt stop Iraq, they didnt stop afghanistan.and the build up to the invasion of Iraq took YEARS. it occured over multiple administrations. this is just getting started. it will be 2030 when the US invades Iran. this stuff takes YEARS of planning. the news media has to manufacture consent, the american people require brainwashing!! and anyone who thinks "hurr durr, iran is mountainzzs, its impozzible, hurr" ... youre a fucking drooling retard. afhanistan is all mountains too, and its LANDLOCKED. the american military is IMPOSSIBLE to stop without nuclear weapons. its a slow rollin mahine that devours everything in its path. they kill, bribe, and fuck everything they encounter. it wont end. I remember Iraq, and saddam and his "million man army" .... "it will be the mother of all battles" ... over in 11 days. the Americans CRUSHED him. like a tin can in a garbage compactor. This isnt the end. its not even the beginning of the end. It may be the end of the beginning. this will be winding down in 2040!What we are witnessing isnt the American military machine getting going. Its just the starter motor being turned on. TLDR: You aint seen nothing yet.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cia_v4vxfE&list=RD4cia_v4vxfE&start_radio=1
>>541014087>China and Russia have their back they are not gonna run out of shitahahhahhaaa .... thats great. ahahhahaa
>>541014847It's not 2003. If we believe ZOG then Russia has lost 2 MILLION men in flat as fuck Ukraine. Boomer retards might be in favor of ZOG war now but that will change when people send them FPV footage of their grandchildren getting blown up.
>>541012372By David Goldman
>>541012853>The Spin: The "80%" cited by CNN does not mean 80% of normal global shipping is successfully getting through. It means that out of the tiny, trickle of remaining ships daring to cross the strait, 80% are clinging to the U.S.-backed Omani corridor rather than the Iranian-designated route. CNN took a statistic about traffic distribution and presented it in headlines as a sign that "Iran has lost control," making an empty strait look like a functional, open waterway.i'm so tired of these kikes
>>541014176>You realize how pathetic the trickle coming through the strait rnyou mean the 14 million BPD leavin SAall the people who make this ridiculous claim. I dont need to prove anything. I dont need a single source. I can ignore everything anyone says about the topic.there is only ONE piece of information that matters AT ALL ... the price.87$ per barrelthat says it all. nothing else matters. everything else is smoke and mirrors.so can blather on endlessly about it. you can quote trump, cnn, the us navy, soem opec offical ... BLAH BLAH BLAH ... the iranians say this, the us says that .... they are all lying.whats the price per barrel? thats not a lie, thats the price... it tells the whole story.the Iranians say that they cause an economic collapse, hasnt happened. doesnt look like its gonna happen. if they could do it, why havent they done it.
>>541014333holy cope lmaoThe Epstein coalition literally ran out of air defense and had to call a time out. We're on the 58th "peace deal" announcement from Donnie, and the strait is still closed. Oil isn't skyrocketing yet because the SPR is being depleted to keep prices somewhat stable. That, however, can only be done for so long until you either stop or the caverns collapse.
>>541011571Kpler posted on X yesterday that crossing have dropped to 3 per day, compared to 150 per day before the war.https://x.com/Kpler/status/2089306298487562343
>>541011571Uh oh sand niggers wishing and praying to their moon god, raising flags and posting AI video clips doesn't actually do anything tangible
>>541014028>Already did my dutyShitposting isnt a real duty. Get drafted, NATO. (No action, talk only)
>>541014847>the american military is IMPOSSIBLE to stop without nuclear weapons. its a slow rollin mahine that devours everything in its path. they kill, bribe, and fuck everything they encounter. it wont end.Fucking retard, its not 2003 any longer. The FPV drone threat will fucking obliterate us just like it does in Ukraine. We fucking jobbed to landmines in Iraq, now that they fly directly into your face makes it far harder and the lurker tactics where the drones just idle in a field until a convoy comes means we'd be dealing with dozens if not hundreds of these fuckers flying into our shitty armored columns. You don't need to utterly destroy a vehicle, blowing the driver side wheel out of an MRAP is good enough to force the crew to abandon the vehicle. Do enough of this to a column of vehicles and the whole fucking brigade is stuck in the middle of nowhere getting chopped up by more and more drones.
>>541015088people said the same stupid shit back then too. they said saddam was undefeatable. they said afghanistan was impossible. they said the US would sustain MILLIONS of casualties. they claimed saddam had chemical weapons, and biological weapons. didnt fuckin change a thing. the US military will INVENT new ways to defeat drones if thats what it takes,in fact a new war in Iran is the perfect place for them to TEST all thier new drone technoloy. its the US who will be droning the shit out of the Iranians!!!! they will have drone planes, drone spies, drone tanks ... they will probably have ROBOTS attack Iran. wont suprise me if the US develops "drone birds" to attack Iran. you think the iranians have a monopoly on drones??? I can already see it coming ... drone ships, drone boats, drone subs, a fucking drone ARMY and it will have american flags all over it. drone planes, drone trains, drone tanks, drone helicopters You just dont fucking get it do you? The American military has the ability to TAX THE WORLD ... thats the petrodollar .... so they dont care how much money they spend. If they cant bribe it or fuck it, they blow it up! they dont care. they will go into iran throwin PALLETS of cash around ... they build military bases that literally have car dealerships operatin in them, complete with mcdonalds, KFC, and fucking motorbike dealerships! They pay 400$ for a case of WATER!!!DRONE ARMY???? on which side? You think the Iranians are going to stand to that. youre fucking crazy.
>>541013200So, this is the power of AUKUS we, Ziggers and the Chinese are supposed to seethe about? You shit on your ally instead of standing by his side?
>>541014587pakistan behaves>>541015279this is what the IRGC actually believes
>>541011571Straight status? OPs sexual orientation, that is. We all know the pools still closedDue to A I D S
>>541015858Really. You seem to think only the Iranians can build drones. Who do you think can build more drones ... the Iranians or the US? Like I said above .... you aint seen nothin yet. They gonna drone the everlovin shyte out of the fuckin irannys. Your right that there will be a million and one drones flyin over Iran ... but they wont be fuckin Iranny drones. they will playing "yankee doodle dandee" as they come down from the skies!every fuckin IRGC member is going to get a american drone straight up his fucking ass pipe!
>>541016254>pakistan behavesyes because you dont bomb their country you will find that when you start bombing pakistan they will get mad as well
>>541016004>they said the US would sustain MILLIONS of casualtiesExcept in 2026 we have direct evidence that we will sustain heavy casualties, unlike 2003. I'm starting to think I'm actually talking to Pete Hegseth himself with how delusional you are.Explain to me exactly what wunderwaffen is going to keep US soldiers from getting gibbed by fiberoptic fpv drones and I will concede defeat and donate $10 to Isreal.
But haven't you seen drumpf in a catering cart AI slop and LEGO ai slop meme videos?!?! Iran is winning Inshallah!
>>541016620nigger we bombed pakistan from 2004 to 2018, they're basically our best friends in the region along with vietnam and japanget some perspective
>>541011571>80% of 10 ships per day cross>120-150 crossed every day before the war
>>541011571brent is 91
>>541016724>Except in 2026 we have direct evidence that we will sustain heavy casualties,gonna need a source on that achmed>exactly what wunderwaffen is going to keep US soldiers from getting gibbedthe same wonderwaffen you keep claimin the Iranians have exclusive access too
>>541016934>nigger we bombed pakistan from 2004 to 2018yes you helped their government take out some rural retardslittle different from the whole iran situation dont you think?
>>541017895>you helped their government take out some rural retardsmountain insurgency>little different from the whole iran situation dont you think?no, the IRGC is also basically a mountain insurgencythe similarities don't end therethe taliban was also a major influence in the pakistani government back in 2004
>>541018059>the IRGC is also basically a mountain insurgencyand they have been in power for decades, unlike the rural retards you helped Pakistan get rid off
>>541018362they also speak persian instead of urduwhat's your point? I explained how the situation is much more similar than you originally thought. 20 minutes ago you didn't know that we bombed pakistan for 14 years, you thought that was a barrier to friendship instead of an established road to friendship like with japan and vietnam. your opinions are shit.
>>541011571We wouldn’t be playing catchup if it wasn’t for Zion don in first place. You’re praising solutions for a fabricated issue
>>541017654You are a fucking idiot. The source is Ukraine.>Iranians have exclusive access toI never claimed there wouldn't be horrific casualties on Iran's side. You are very dishonest.
>>541018651you dont even understand the difference between a insurgency and a actual government, but my main point was that this war against iran did not benefit the US population at all
>>541019360I already covered thisthe taliban was also a major influence in the pakistani government back in 2004it's funny you telling me I don't understsand things when you didn't even know the basic facts of us bombing our way into pakistan's hearts while eliminating the taliban's influence over their civilian government so effectively that you assumed it was a mountain insurgency the whole time
>>541019360>did not benefit the US population at allsee >>541013803
>>541011571Nooo they’re winning because posting memes from a bunker!
>>541019803>implying the taliban influence in pakistan in 2004 is just like the IRGC influence is in Irannot even close>>541019829yes the straight of hormuz would be more open even if Iran did get nukesso how did this war benefit the average american?
>>541018932>The source is Ukraine. You think American troops are going to "zerg rush" into iran the way russians are going into Ukriane. No achmed, they will be sittin in air conditioned bunkers 500 miles from the front playin with drones on an Xbox, runnin fucking drones up some IRGC members ass pipe. how will they do this ... i dont know. but im sure they will. satellittes, microwaves. they will invent a way. they've got unlimited funding. they will figure it out. The americans will probably figure out a way to let Xbox players run drones in Iran!!!it will be a whole new game "Call of Mustafa" ... "Assassins Sneed" where American kids can fly a drone in Iran. they get 20 points for every IRGC member they blow up. Avalible on Xbox in 2029
>>541020169>not even closeunfortunately I can't take your word for it, since you didn't even know we bombed pakistan for 14 years, and you didn't know the taliban was an influential part of the government when we started>the straight of hormuz would be more open even if Iran did get nukesunrealisticthey've proven themselves pirates and scofflaws so it's pretty obvious how they would act
>>541020169>so how did this war benefit the average american?americans enjoy global hegemony because of petrodollar. the petrodollar is specifically based on the agreement that america keep the shipping lanes open ... they garantee global commerce.all americans benefit from this daily with low inflation and low cost goods. its also why america lost its manufacturin power, because it makes it cheaper to import goods then to work. they are the worlds policeman, and the world PAYS them to do it.
>>541020362>unrealistic>they've proven themselves pirates and scofflaws so it's pretty obvious how they would actunfortunately i can't take your word for it, since you dont seem to know the difference between the IRGC and the Taliban>>541020521yes, and these actions on Iran did the exact opposite that, it made a global shipping lane close
>>541016234ZOG is not my allyTrump ran on NO NEW WARS, he never would've won if he'd said this was his plan.
>>541021139>since you dont seem to know the difference between the IRGC and the Talibanthat's not a serious argumentyour bad faith is notedhere is what you couldn't rebut despite trying really hard for an hour:inaction would cost us more than action.you would not have free passage in the strait after iran achieved untouchable north korea status, as proven by their recent piratical behavior. therefore, everyone (not just americans) benefits from us making sure that doesn't happen.as usual, people who never had the ability to act (you) discount the cost of inaction.
>>541021357he said it during every rally"I will contain iran""iran can't have a nuclear weapon""I'm gonna bomb the shit out of them"you should have listened
>>541011571As long as Americans are suffering, and the President is cowering, and his people are poor and retarded, I am happy as clam. He may continue torturing and harming you stupid fat fucks as much as he wants it truly pleases me in his cowardice. Hahahaha
>>541021139>it made a global shipping lane close87$ a barrelthats the only number that matters. everything else is smoke and mirrors. Cnn says this, Iran says that, Trump says its open, mustafa says its closed .... none of that mattersbecause the whole debate is ended with a number ... the price per barrel .... whatever the balance sheet is, thats what it adds to. everythin else is just noise. 87$ per barrel is perfectly sustainible. now i know, youre next move is to tell me "well they cant sustain 87$ per barrel, they will run out of reserves" ... but thats hypothetical. thats a future possibility. so straight is open, straight is closed .... im not entering that debate, because it doesnt matter. all that matters is the price. the world doesnt care if the straight of hormuz is open or closed. the world cares about how much a barrel of oil costs. so you say the "straight is closed" ... OK ... So what? Who cares. Dont make a difference to me. im in Canada, other side of the world. In fact, it actually benefits me, because canada exports oil, and the higher prices are helping our economy.
>>541014333Found the redcoat who still can't admit we couldn't even win in Afghanistan
>>541022239that wasn't responsive to a single one of my arguments in that post.also, you're wrong. we blitzed afghanistan in a few weeks and occupied it for 20 years. saying we didn't win in afghanistan is like saying casesar didn't really conquer gaul because they're not roman any more.
>>541021388>you would not have free passage in the strait after iran achieved untouchable north korea statuseveryone had free passage already, now no one has free passage and it doesn't look like that will change anytime soon
>>541022695>>if we allowed X to happen, you'd not only lose free passage but the pirates doing it would be untouchable>but we already had free passagehow would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning, anon?
>>541022461lololol there it is. There is no point in arguing with a dedicated zog dog like you who confuses complete obedience to an israeli occupied fed with being a patriot.How predictable you types are that you all still can't admit we lost that war after 20 years
>>541022903>you all still can't admitwe blitzed afghanistan in a few weeks and occupied it for 20 years. saying we didn't win in afghanistan is like saying casesar didn't really conquer gaul because they're not roman any more.you had no rebuttal to this, you didn't even try, because it's true. you've been exposed, shill.
>>54101157180% of ships that actually transit the strait aren't using Iran's preferred route, but 90% of ships aren't transiting the strait at all. So only 8% of ships are defying Iran. Sounds like they're still in control.
>>541022891pirates? we have pirates now?just stop sucking israeli dick
>>541023347pathetichere is what you couldn't rebut despite trying really hard for an hour:inaction would cost us more than action.you would not have free passage in the strait after iran achieved untouchable north korea status, as proven by their recent piratical behavior. therefore, everyone (not just americans) benefits from us making sure that doesn't happen.as usual, people who never had the ability to act (you) discount the cost of inaction.
>>541011571Come on dude, I could have done better than that.Actually I do better than that every fucking day, why are they paying you?Hey D.O.W come knock on my door tonight at about 2am, I'll sit by the door and we'll talk though it like before no one has to see anyone. Just park on the shoulder of the interstate and walk across the back yard, there are no cameras there.
>>541012372>LISTEN GOY, WE ARE TAKING CONTROL BACK... WITH JUST ONE PUSH OR PERHAPS AN INVASION WE CAN HAVE CONTROL OF THE HORMUSSI BY HANNUKAH!
>>541023408*my door under the carport, don't go around the front, I do have a camera there but so long as you stay under the carport you'll be invisible.
>>541011571Iran is a flaccid cock, all this anti American stuff is just shitskins seething because brown people are getting btfo again for millionth time
>>541023393>piratical behaviorjust stop at this point
>>541011571i think there might be mass /pig/ suicides if they lose their only talking point
>>541023636>just stopoh, you want to hear it again?here is what you couldn't rebut despite trying really hard for FOUR HOURS:inaction would cost us more than action.you would not have free passage in the strait after iran achieved untouchable north korea status, as proven by their recent piratical behavior. therefore, everyone (not just americans) benefits from us making sure that doesn't happen.as usual, people who never had the ability to act (you) discount the cost of inaction.
>>541021862It's 91.8 right now why is everyone saying 87
>>541021422>"I'm gonna bomb the shit out of Iran"Gunna need a citation on that one big fella
>>541023199Notice how you don't even try to refute your ultimate loyalty to israel above all.Redcoats will never be patriots
>>541013621Saddam wasn't blowing up US bases and sinking US ships. Stupid fucking leaf.
>>541023753so you are saying this war is clearly benificial for the american people?
>>541023393John you are the pirates
>>541023946notice how you don't even try to refute my argument.we blitzed afghanistan in a few weeks and occupied it for 20 years. saying we didn't win in afghanistan is like saying casesar didn't really conquer gaul because they're not roman any more.you had no rebuttal to this, you didn't even try, because it's true. you've been exposed, shill.>>541023987yespeople who couldn't act even if they wanted to always discount the cost of inaction
>>541023546>gay mutt worships cockColor me surprised pikachuface
>>541023408>>541023503wtf
>>541011571So...................Trump was right, again?
>>541024046You lost the war in Afghanistan, you can't win the war against Iran, and you'll never be a patriot. You've got nothing but cope posting on /pol/ lolRedcoats are adorable
>>541023992protecting transit passage like we've done for two centuries isn't piracy, it's counter-piracy.iran's actions are piratical, shooting at and capturing commercial vessels that should legally enjoy the customary right of transit passage. those rights apply even in iran's territorial waters, and unlike other norms like safe passage, they can't be legally abrogated even in wartime.there's simply no argument to be had here. 134 countries agreed with our legal position that iran is breaking the law (UNSC 2817).
>>541024213I proved otherwise, and you had no rebuttal.we blitzed afghanistan in a few weeks and occupied it for 20 years. saying we didn't win in afghanistan is like saying casesar didn't really conquer gaul because they're not roman any more.you had no rebuttal to this, you didn't even try, because it's true. you've been exposed, shill.
>>541024227You're not protecting passage you are actively hindering it for purely israeli political reasons.You are the pirates now, loyalist
>>541011571The reason why oil is below $100 a barrel is because the US is draining its SPR to help make up for the supply deficit, without that oil would be $15 a barrel more expensive
>>541024253Iranian patriots are killing israeli mercenaries and you can't even admit we lost in Afghanistan after 20 years.It'd be sad if it wasn't so adorable
>>541014587Why just ignore his main point like that? are you disingenuous, or retarded ?What about Pakistan? What about France?Those countries aren't the danger to us that is represented by Nuclear armed Iran.Since that's what we as a country are concerned about, that will shape our foreign policy. Not whatever whataboutisms you post in this thread.
>>541024280incorrect, see >>541024227
>>541024046>saying we didn't win in afghanistan is like saying casesar didn't really conquer gaul because they're not roman any more.A more apt classical comparison would be hannibal barca in the first punic war. You can win every battle and still lose the war if your enemies simply outlast you.Caesar could at least claim vercingetorix surrendered. Mullah Omar died of old age.
>>541024332>you can't even admitbecause I proved otherwise, and you had no rebuttal.we blitzed afghanistan in a few weeks and occupied it for 20 years. saying we didn't win in afghanistan is like saying casesar didn't really conquer gaul because they're not roman any more.you had no rebuttal to this, you didn't even try, because it's true. you've been exposed, shill.
>>541011571Thought I was the only one who saw this today. Crazy that even CNN is admitting defeat.
>>541024384*second Punic war
>>541024470See above. You can't even win this argument yet you think we're going to win against Iran
>>541024046>people who couldn't act even if they wanted to always discount the cost of inactionso now they did act, and the straight of hormuz is shut down, and the cost is pretty highmaybe not messing with the trade lanes would be better for everyone
>>541024381Loyalists to israel, like you, will never be patriots
>>541024470The US objectively lost the war in Afghanistan, you failed to meet your objective which was to permanently remove the Taliban from power, only an American who think wars are won based on k/d thinks the US won, as Clausewitz said, war is politics by other means
>>541024381>legally legally legallyTell me migger, what does international law say on the legality of randomly deciding to assassinate the leaders of a sovereign nation one day?
>>541024384hannibal didn't take rome, we took kabulso that's less apt in my viewvercingetorix's surrender was not the end of gaulish resistanceso that's more aptnow do you really think hannibal could have stayed in italia indefinitely, but for the negative sentiment surrounding <100 casualties a year? no, he was physically kicked out of italia before the war ended, he had no choice.I don't think it's more apt, I think it's a stretch.
>>541011571Nothing will happen
>>541024523>You can't even win this argumentprojection, since you had no rebuttal.we blitzed afghanistan in a few weeks and occupied it for 20 years. saying we didn't win in afghanistan is like saying casesar didn't really conquer gaul because they're not roman any more.you had no rebuttal to this, you didn't even try, because it's true. you've been exposed, shill.>>541024558more projectionyour only point (which you can't defend) is some basic bitch demoralizationyou act like a shill and you post shill posts>>541024581caesar failed to integrate gaul into the eternal roman reich, what's the difference? seriously? I've never received a good faith response to this and I never will. just strawmen like k/d which I never mentioned in 20 fucking posts.
>>541017148there's lies, damned lies, and statistics
>>541024685When you think about it, your entire military service has been dedicated to killing actual patriots at the behest of israel.That's why you zog dogs are the worst, you're the kind who would OORAH your way to killing patriots here as well as long as the fed told you.
>>541024644>what does international law say about strawman strawman strawmanyou have to be 18 to post here
>>541024825oddly specific projectionsorry about your PTSD but you don't have to act like a shill
>>541024883As an actual patriot I'm not a fan of redcoats like yourself
>>541011571>Even CNNYou say that as if CNN isn't basically american/israeli state media
>>541024792Gaul submitted to Rome and became its vassal you spastic, it paid tribute, its soldiers fought for Rome in its auxiliary, it submitted to Roman Law
>>541024253>we blitzed afghanistan in a few weeks and occupied it for 20 years.But what did your country get from it?
>>541024847Very jewish of you to pretend you didn't launch an obvious illegal war before crying about illegal piracy.
>>541024925ok shill>>541024955>Gaul submitted to Rome and became its vassal you spastic, it paid tribute, its soldiers fought for Rome in its auxiliary, it submitted to Roman Lawdo you remember when we controlled afghanistan for 23 years and tens of thousands of afghans fought for us and the whole country submitted to our laws and norms?>>541025021nothingit was a dumb war, probably some kind of blood sacrifice for shady glowniggers like him >>541024925
>>541025160>obvious illegal warthat's not what the State Department's lawyers saiddo you have an argument besides "uh it's obvious"
>>541025214>the glownigger is the one not sucking israels dick and refusing to acknowledge the realities that we lost a war we spent 20 years onAdorable
>>541024685Hannibal was not physically kicked out. He left after his allied forces were crushed. Much like the US did when the taliban took the the country back from ANA in a week.Caesar invaded gaul to subjugate it's people and when the Romans left 6 centuries later the descendants of the gauls were unrecognizable.The US invaded to explicitly destroy the taliban and when they left the taliban were in power again. To compare the two only accentuate how badly the US lost.
>>541025285>ummm akshually it's legal for us to just assasinate whoever we want whenever we wantYou seemed very knowledgeable about international law regarding piracy before, what does the international law say about assassinating sovereign leaders?
Australia has enough resources to fuel the human race for the next thousand years. Yet, because of American occupation we are not allowed to sell any of it.
I want to thank this loyalist for being such a textbook redcoat. There's a reason I bring up the loss in Afghanistan because there is no greater sign of a federal loyalist than the refusal to admit they lost a war
>>541025299> refusing to acknowledge the realitiesepic projectionnotice how you don't even try to refute my argument.we blitzed afghanistan in a few weeks and occupied it for 20 years. saying we didn't win in afghanistan is like saying casesar didn't really conquer gaul because they're not roman any more.you had no rebuttal to this, you didn't even try, because it's true. you've been exposed, shill.
>>541025353>his forces were crushed>the US got icked out by 50 casualties a yearyou see why I think it's a stretch>>541025358permissible if the leader in question has a military rolethat's almost all of them including ourswhat did you think the answer would be?>>541025644buckbroken shill is doubleposting now kek
>>541025921>five eyes loyalist doesn't know what double posting is
>>541025961you posted your non-argument twicereminder that we blitzed afghanistan in a few weeks and occupied it for 20 years. saying we didn't win in afghanistan is like saying casesar didn't really conquer gaul because they're not roman any more.you had no rebuttal to this, you didn't even try, because it's true. you've been exposed, shill.
>>541025921>it's legal under international law to just kill other country's military leaders whenever you wantAre you sure migger-kun?That doesn't sound quite right....
>>541011702>>541011926We're saying that Iran is less capable of obtaining nuclear weapons now than they were before Trump took office
>>541011571CNN only admitted this because they couldn't fuck with kpler maritime traffic data. And believe me they tried.
>>541025214>do you remember when we controlled afghanistan for 23 years and tens of thousands of afghans fought for us and the whole country submitted to our laws and norms?That literally never happened you fucking delusional cunt, that's why as soon as the US left the few areas it occupied the Taliban immediately took back over, it was so rapid that the US was unprepared and had to hurry people out of its embassy and fly people off of private plans the US hired to rescue people, all caught on camera
>Tr-hump, Tr-hump>all that junk in my Trumping hump>My sexy little Trumping humpThe straight of homo’s isn’t very important.Least of all to America who presumably want to sell American oil. We forced it open last time that the Irangutangs chimped out very easily with just special forces. Its all very strange and confusing. President Trumphalumpha turned a clear and swift win into a long term forehead slapping exercise. Why?>that just be how it do. Sheeeiiite! Pic: fact: there is no sugar at all in the Norktopian diet. Zero. Or so they say. Explain Big Kimbofatty then. Is he just where it all went?
>>541024792We didn't win in Afghanistan, fucking idiot. Try reading a book and lay off the ai.
>>541026008>just>whenever you wantnot what I said, kike>>541026082>That literally never happenedwe controlled afghanistan for 23 yearstens of thousands of afghans fought for usthe whole country submitted to our laws and normsthese are the three comparisons you made and they're all true>you fucking delusional cuntepic projectionchoose another insult and it won't be so obvious next time
>>541025921>misquoting me to avoid responding to my argumentI accept your concession.
>>541026082There was no rush to leave. It was all fake news if YOU remember, which they admitted to. They never said why they faked it. Smack dealing related probably.
>>541026223where's your argument?we blitzed afghanistan in a few weeks and occupied it for 20 years. saying we didn't win in afghanistan is like saying casesar didn't really conquer gaul because they're not roman any more.you had no rebuttal to this, you didn't even try, because it's true.
>>541026251I never misquoted you, hopefully you're just retarded and not lying.hannibal's forces were crushed, as you said.that's why, despite having divine kingly power, hannibal was forced to leave italia.compariong that a republic getting icked out 50 casualties a year is a stretch.you had no response to that, which sounds like a concession to me.>I accept your concession.interesting choice of projection
>>541026247Ah so under what conditions does international say that it is "permissable"?Will you tell us or is it a secret?
>>541026031
>>541011926>so how does this benefit the average amercanKeeps the petrodollar strong and fucks the BRICS basket currency and allows America to control the world reserve currency for another 10-15 years.The benefit is hidden because it stops something bad from happening. (de-dollarization) which would cause serious pain to Americans. The average normie cant into reserve currency so they are blind to this.
>>541011571>>Gas station lines/rationscan u show them?
>>541026413if the leader in question has a military roleI already told you this and you dishonestly changed it into "whenever you want," remember?>is it a secret?why do you post like such a faggot? I've answered all of your questions directlyit's permissible if the leader in question has a military rolethat's almost all of them including ours
>>541026469don't forget the breakeven price on north american shale was $60-$80forbes and others ran articles in 2025 saying it would have to stay in the ground forever because OPEC was flooding the market too muchthat's three birds with one stone
>>541026515>miggers in charge of readingYeah so like I said last post, you believe it is legal under international law to assassinate other country's military leaders whenever you want?Sounds like a misinterpretation to me migger-kun.
>>541011571>America is winning for realises this time I've heard it all before from ukries winning for the 3001st time this special military operation
>>541026031How? These dude are building hypersonic manoeuvring missiles in bunkers and ballistic missiles are more complex than an A bomb.
>>541026574>international lawBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAGood one cunt, that's a great joke
>>541026284The Taliban ruled before and after we fucked around, we practically begged them to stop attacking us and we had a disorderly withdrawal where they seized billions and billions in military hardware. We never conquered Afghanistan, we never pacified it, all we were able accomplish was to educate a hand full of women in the capital, who are now all dead or enslaved.
>>541026699Migger kun is the one crying about the legality of Iran's piracy, follow the links before you reply retard.
>>541011571
>>541026396You quite literally did. Can you point to the post where I typed "his forces were crushed">hannibal's forces were crushed, as you said.Except I never said that. >that's why, despite having divine kingly power,Schizo or ESL, call it.
>>541026731kek false, colored by effeminate subjective descriptors. begged them to stop attacking is false, failed to conquer is false...this is bricsnigger cope
>>541026736There is no "international law" ya fucking muppet.Strength determines who can do what.Weak pussies cry about rules and laws.Strong countries like USA, China, and Russia do whatever the fuck the want cause no one can stop them."International Law" is a pacifier for weak baby countries to suck on while they cry themselves to sleep.
>>541026866Did you literally pay them to not attack your convoys?
>>541026887Wow cool story, tell it to the migger who first brought up international law ITT you retard.
>>541026900no they were paid for development a side effect is they considered it a bribe as a cope.
>>541011926If it benefits the jews its worth it.
>>541026900>literallyfuck off back to plebbit nigger faggot
>>541026944>N-N-NO THAT WAS FOR "DEVELOPMENT"AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAALOOK AT HIM COPE
>>541026981stay mad but your teen girl story time is just that, bricsnigger cope.
>>541026979>noOOoOoOo YOU CAN'T USE THAT WORD IT'S AGAINST THE RULES!!!! ADMIN BAN THIS POSTER RIGHT NOW PLEASE!!!yesh righto buddy
>>541027003Perhaps you were paying them to "develop" into the type of people who wouldn't attack convoys?
>>541027041the money was for wells and roads and schools, if they took it as a bribe to excuse their cowardice i dont begrudge them, attacking a convoy almost always ended badly for them.
>>541027072What would happen to this "well money" if they attacked your convoys?Do you think perhaps it would be stopped?
>>541026680they arent building shit while standing in line lol they cant even show up to work lel
>>541012853Thanks gork.
>>541027117depends on if it could be linked to the person to whom it was given.
>>541011571>Omani routeanyone care to paint that for me?pretty sure its still hormussy
>>541026031Pure cope. China and North Korea are closer than ever to getting a nuke, untraced, into Iranian hands.
>>541026574>whenever you want?he did it againI've been consistent, it's permissible if the leader in question has a military roleyou're a low effort shill>>541026846here >>541025353I demand more effort
>>541026469all this shit is cope for trumpensteins retarded base who can't admit he is a kike slave so they resort to chest beating about "american empire" shit. he invaded cause israel fuckin told him to.
>>541024350iran only is a "Danger to you" because the jews that own your country forced american politicians to slap away every normalization effort and ensure that the country kept being run by hardliners and even then they had to be constantly provoked before they did anything. get the jewish cock out of your mouth
>>541014847Nukes are more plausible than a land invasion.The American military is half white at best these days. White men are disenfranchised and this is obviously a war for jews. Its not going to happen. Civil War in the US is more likely than a land invasion of Iran.
>>541027380>links to a post where I didn't say anything he quoted me sayingYou ought to demand more effort from your english teacher, Pajeet. Especially when it comes to reading comprehension.
>>541027380>migger getting confused between "whenever" and "whoever"Yes yes I already agreed that he's a military leader, so WHEN is it permissable under international law to kill another country's military leaders?Any time you feel like it?
>>541012372>David GoldmanYou can't make this shit up
>>5410275967/10 pedantryif you were a true pedant you'd demand me contend with the word "allies"then we could circlejerk about whether how carthaage was a feudal empire and almost all of its forces were technically "allied" in the modern sense.but you're not a real pedant, you're a poser with no argument and I'd be everything you're all those things you've accused me of>ESL pajeet schizotell me more about yourself, loser
>>541020521>all americans benefit from this daily with low inflation and low cost goods. its also why america lost its manufacturin power, because it makes it cheaper to import goods then to work.Yet I still work and the price of everything has increased exponentially for the past 10 years, but especially in the past 3-5.
>>541027657excpet you did do it again, it being posting a weak strawmandon't care that it's a different strawmanI never said you could do it wheneveryou liedbe more subtle, this isn't fun
>>541027797So when can you do it?It's the big secret you've been dancing around for 20 posts.
>>541027842>So when can you do it?during wartimehere, I'll save us two postswartime is defined very broadly under international law and isn't the same as a country "declaring war" under its own domestic lawsI can't believe you beat around the bush like a faggot for so long just for that
>>541027974Ah so when are you allowed to do a "wartime"?Any time you feel like it?
>>54102797441 posts by this idYou ain't saving anyone posts, spaz.
>>541027703>Admits to misquoting me to avoid my argument in my original postI accept your concession. >and I'd be everything you are all those things you have accused me of1/10 english, incomprehensible. Tell your teacher to focus on sentence structure as well.
>>541011571>More than 80% of vessel transits through the Strait of Hormuz over the past two weeks have taken the Omani routelol wut? The war has been ongoing for months. Why the fuck weren't they simply doing that the whole time?
