The Camp Mystic Disaster (in which 30 innocent Christian girls were killed by flooding) would seem to indicate that God is either not real, or is outright malevolent
>>541026205>Free will isn't allowed to existYou already tried that bergstein
>>541026266How is a flood free will?
>>541026266...they chose to have a flood?
>>541026205God is Satan in disguise Earth is Hell
>>541026205>brown eyesGod is great.
>>541026266The free will to… drown in a flood God caused?
>>541026205also, God's supposed chosen people not having their country and being forced to live like gypsies and foreigners in their host country for 2 millennium
>>541026205there is no God and the entire notion of religion is the greatest hoax ever committed upon mankind
>>541026343Albino kike
>>541026205This thread would seem to indicate you’re simple.
>>541026325They voted for it, faggot. Stfu simp
>>541026205it indicates to me that the USA simultaneously has shitty flood warning and shitty flood protection(/civil service reaction) measures in that area.but quite a few people noted that was also the case elsewhere and i decided to trust them on it so really probably it's the case in many places.as for god... well it depends on how you describe god. is it a sentient being or a machine that automatically does everything? e.g. to begin with do you expect god(s) to act predictably in line with some policy and every time?
>>541026341This.
The jews cloudseeded the skies above them. Ritual murder.
>>541026205>muh athiesm cult is better!Lol. Go find your missing link shit for brains.
>>541026205nature isnt evil
>>541026394Jeet
>>541026463God could nevertheless have prevented the subsequent flooding, or saved his followers
>>541026205God is Jewish, that's why in order to build the strongest body you have to kill other things and eat them.
>>541026205Atheists are retarded and illogical.>>541026370There is a God and religion is the greatest achievement of mankind.Atheism is false.Christianity is true.
>>541026502There is no equality in Nature therefore equality is Evil.
>>541026205God doesnt care. Thats it. Thats the answer. Atheists btfo
>build on flood plain>blame the Bible for getting washed away in a period of high rain
>>541026598lol, unintentionally funny imagery. its literally god having a period, don't build on the discharge zones
>>541026525So?We really need to bring back formal logic, which atheists removed from the school curriculum to dumb people down to their level.
>>541026325you couldve chosen not to be evil. not much of a reader?
>>541026533You ever notice in order for a galaxy to become stronger it has to eat other galaxies?
>>541026525They were using flying iron chariots there was nothing God could do.
>>541026205>Could God have created a universe with free-will but without evil?How can free-will exist if you can't be evil? Epicuro is a hack.
>>541026629So why didn’t He?
>>541026205>"They will never admit that their God kills people who make him angry. I am so smart"Yes, God has killed people that incurs His wrath. What of it?
if god was real, the jews wouldn't need to scam and lie their way into getting their own land that their god supposedly promised them
>>541026783nta but why would he? Your life doesn't mean anything to god, only the shape of your soul.
>>541026816A God who has the ability to prevent evil and does nothing is evil. A God who cannot is not all powerful and therefore no god at all, at least not one worth worshipping
>>541026266Free will is a core concept of Judaism retarded shabbos goy
>>541026205The problem with Epicuro is that he conveniently ignores logic, despite trying to present his argument in a logic manner. If freewill exists, then God "can't" prevent evil because that would logically invalidade the very concept of freewill. That's like saying that if God can't make it so that 2+2=5 instead of 4, then he isn't omnipotent either. It also ignores pretty much everything else related to the divine, after-life, etc as well as human life itself. The whole argument basically bothers down to "I'm not happy at the moment so God doesn't exist". He is as smart as a 3 year old.
>>541026895why didn't god stop the holocaust or the october 7 massacre ?
>>541026205>>541026341What do we have to fear then?
>Anything bad that befalls you is the punishment of God>Anyone who dies before adulthood is entered into eternal paradise>For anything anyone suffers an equivalent remission of sins is givenI won't argue, and these are the cold hard facts. 1ptid
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>>541026876I am not Christian.You are the one who ascribes value to life.Not "god".Your premise is flawed.
>>541026958God invented the universe and its rules, anon. And He can break them. According to the Bible He can make mountains skip like rams. He could make 2 + 2 add up to 5 if He wanted. He can defy logic. If He can’t, then no He is not all-powerful. At least not by the Christian definition.
>>541026205Or my explanation is that he just doesn't care. Why should a higher being care about passing lives such as ours? If we were 'made in his image' we should expect him to act like we would towards small insects.
>>541027086either your god isn't real or he is impotent OR he enjoys seeing jews get massacred and traumatized
>>541026205The entire Epicurean paradox is retarded because it assumes there is no value or benefit in suffering and struggle. Its a bait and switch trap to get you to focus on God's responsibility instead of the purpose behind it. No struggle, no growth bitches.
>>541026430>it indicates to me that the USA simultaneously has shitty flood warning and shitty flood protection(/civil service reaction) measures in that area.This should have been a wake call for how dependent we've become on technology and how stupid it's making us. The warning system consisted of sending out an alert on smartphones...in the middle of the night. No one thought to physically go over to the camp and use a bullhorn or something to warn the girls. They might have been saved if someone had just thought to use a low tech approach.
>>541026205>>541026266A Thiel-linked company was manipulating the weather in that very area when the flood happened. Bibi was also in the US when it happened. So the murder of these Christian girls was a sacrifice to the Jews.
>>541026205Yeah it has nothing to do with Trump cutting environmental programs for early warnings that could have prevented it
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>>541026987Reincarnation
>>541027246Ok so you are clearly retarded I was mocking the concept of free will but you were too retarded to realise that. Yes yhwh doesn't exist. Free will (especially the one which excuses all the genocide, rape, floods and other shit yhwh did) isn't real. Free will was made by christcuck and rabbi theologians to excuse the actions of god which are clearly not good and contradictory. yhwh literally says he created darkness
>>541026205The problem with the western idea of god is the idea he is involved in every single aspect of creation, that he has a grand plan BUT if you and a bunch of church biddies prayer warrior hard enough you can force his hand. The most logical interpretation of faith from Christians was the clockmaker/Diests. God made it, set it all in motion, and then took his hands off it after leaving some instructions.
>>541027364But what if I get reincarnated as a rich chad?
Or the news is fake and ritualistic in nature>Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012and God looks down disapprovingly, at the haughty, machiavellian drive of those who desire power.
>>541027473Don't worry, you won't.
>>541026205another poopjeet thread sponsored by Tel Aviv... >>>
>>541026205In your materialistic world view. It's probably why Americans invented prosperity gospel too.
>>541027340I’m faded
>>541026205>ChristianIt says CATHOLIC anon. Roman Catholics are apostate, they are not Christians. They are Luciferians.
The prime mover has a complex sense of humour
I don't understand why the owner of the camo had children's dorms in a flood plane to begin with. But it's so much worse than that. Not only did they build these dorms in a flood plane, they did so in a flood way. Which is.. the designated first place to handle flood waters. It's so unsettling to me how preventable this all was, and how easily the Texas rich people have forgiven the camp of their negligence and continued to send kids there.
>>541026302christkikes are retarded
>>541026559blow your head off jew
>>541026205The paradox wasn't created by Epicurus, and it doesn't apply to christian theology in the first place.Sorry, disgusting kike pajeet mudslime child fucking nigger faggot tranny monster.
>>541026205We're under minimal supervision. Sometimes shit happens. We're a free range creation. Even since a certain someone DID NOT LISTEN and thought SHE KNEW BETTER.>>541026302Mass recalls are painful but sometimes need to happen. Once every however many thousands of years isn't so bad.
>>541028721... why. why doesn't it apply to Christian theology? I'm legit curious at this point
>>541028786not only are christkikes retarded, they're massive liars too
>>541027268honestly: whatever probably works. helicopters and cars with loudspeakers, sirens, whatever. and the people tasked with warning about the flood also should just have the simple instructions what way to go / what place to evacuate to minimize risks
>not only are christkikes retarded, they're massive liars too
>>541027251>because it assumes there is no value or benefit in suffering and struggle.It ruins everything. There is nothing good about suffering. It's all just excuses to get people hurt.There is no reason to get people hurt, ever.
All the residents had to do was spend some money for a warning system, it's one of the only legitimate uses of tax payer dollars, but instead that money probably went to Israel somehow.
>>541028778>We're under minimal supervision /thread; kikes on suicide watch
The possible answers to the 5th question are all strawmen lmao
>>541026205Village atheists still cannot comprehend that they are talking about what they decided someone else believes in.>>541026876>A God that doesn't do what I want is evilNo self-awareness, as typical.
>>541029382>There is no reason to get people hurt, ever.It's pretty simple:If an action you are about to do will result in somebody, you or anyone else, in pain or suffering, then it is not the right action to do. Another, better action, such that it does not result in someone, you or anyone else, in pain or suffering, should be found and done. Only such actions should be done. No action that results in somebody in pain or suffering, can be called good. Only such actions that don't result in pain and suffering can be called good. God would fail this.
>>541026205god was punishing sinful texans for their materialistic hubris. these kids and their families deserved it
>create household in the Sims>leave free will and weather on>walk away from computer>Sim tried to grill hot dogs indoors during rain and burned down the house with no survivors>this means you, their creator, are either not real or outright malevolent
>>541026525It's like everyone in this thread is totally clueless about God and what people believe about him>>541026266We for free will guy here, he's probably thinking about how we were created in a free world with both good and bad things happening freely. Christ himself said God lets it rain on the just and unjust alikeIf we had a clockmaker God that programmed everything, then we would basically be robots Well can't he just take out all the bad stuff? Without bad stuff we wouldn't even know what good is. We would have no context for itAlso in Christ's great homily, he says God "sends rain on the just and the unjust" (Matthew 5:45 in the Sermon on the Mount). AI added:Jesus uses it to show that God loves everyone. God gives good things like sun and rain to all people, whether they do right or wrong, which goes with Love Your Enemies: Jesus tells us to love our enemiesCommon Grace: God gives basic life needs to everyone. He does not stop the sun or rain from helping bad people.Bad things and good things happen to all humans. Being a good person does not mean life will have zero stormsThis also goes hand in hand with Buddhist thought
>>541026205what a waste of 2 perfectly acceptable loli's
>>541026205no, its just a matter of scale, and of clarity.most people have this label "god"and they have assigned a definition to him, what he should do, how he should be, what he does with his god powers.that definition is the problem. that doesn't exist.look at some of god's actions.to make "woman" god put adam to sleep (anesthesia) removed a rib (surgery) and used that to make a mate (cloning)regretted mankind, and his creation- and flooded it all. a city displease him- glassed it. also another one. just because.god designed niggers and jews. just because.he took bets with satan about how much someone who loves him could be made to suffer. for amusement. (job)gods actions were never those of a perfect being the way people like to think of him these days.nature is cruel, life is not fair, god made us as shitty as we are because thats god. hes very real, and not at all the way that people like to pretend he is.just try to be grateful because the reality is terrifying beyond comprehension and he made us unable to understand it, unable to look at his face, unable to hear his voice, without any guidance or direction.lots of PEOPLE tell you "god's" guidance and direction but its not god telling us anything at all.why make things like this? why make us this way? why make niggers and jews and parasite nightmares? its not that GOD does not exist, its that he doesn't match the label assigned to him by man.god's actions were never perfect to the senses of man.
>>541032435>regretted mankindHow can you regret making something when you knew what would happen before you even did it?
>>541026205catholic aren't Christians.
