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HOLY SHIT SELL EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW
IT'S OVER WE'RE ALL GONNA LOSE EVERYTHING
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>>541026963
i bought thanks
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>>541026963
2 more weeks
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>>541026963
I don't understand what that means.
And I don't think I care either faggot.
Your such a pussy.
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>>541026963
It's not shocking.
AI was doomed to fail after a court ruled that an AI chatbot response is the same thing as official company policies when pressed in court.
This came about when a guy asked if an airline had rates for bereavement travel to attend a funeral. The AI told him yes. He asked if he got the rate up front or if he had to do reimbursement. The AI said he got the rate up front and told him the rate of his flight.
Turns out it was supposed to be a reimbursement thing instead and the airline sued him. He provided the AI chat transcript to the court and the airline said that AI isn't an official source. The judge slapped their ass hard stating that using an AI client that is on their site or their site directly links to for assistance is exactly the same thing as official company communication and will be held as such.
That one case (happened not too long ago) made companies liable for whatever a LLM says, made insurance companies view AI using LLM as highly risky things to cover, and has corps backtracking. If a person doesn't know, they look it up or found to be at fault for damages, if the system itself fucks up, then the COMPANY fucked up and they can't pass the buck making lawsuits a lot more damaging.
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>>541026963
just in time for the data centers to transition to fema camps
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I'm invested into an inverse Cramar etf, and it's done pretty good all things considered. Of course Cramar is all in on AI so avoiding it is probably preferable at this point.
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>>541027413
A fuckton of investment and stock market capital has been thrown at AI companies (microchips, memory, software, etc). Now that AI is seen as pretty big liability, companies are pulling out of investments and lot of stocks are going to crash nuking investor capital. If you aren't in the stock market or just aren't investing in the AI side of thing? It won't mess with much.
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>>541027558
Data Centers will be affected? Or repurposed?
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I didn't invest in Ai. Anyone who didn't see it was a bubble is an idiot. Its a solution looking for a problem.
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>>541027558
everything that isn't welfare for browns is bad!
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>>541027644
Cheap gaming will be back on the menu, boys. All that memory and gpus flooding the market. Energy in the surplus capacity again. Everyone will build their own little servers with personalised AI agent.
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>>541026963
>Europe
You're not part of the conversation.
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>>541027644
I've seen conspiracy theorists saying the data centers are probably bunkers and theyre probably because nitwit is going to cause a nuclear war.

They probably aren't bunkers but I don't doubt Dementia Don will start a nuclear war. He's been fucking dying to since his first term. This time we don't have the people to stop him in place. His cronies will justify it with some bullshit reason. All of his demented ideas they find ways to make happen. He cast out everyone that would stop him from the military.
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>>541026963
>europe
Bottom signal, i bought with leverage
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>>541026963
test
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>>541026963

Nooo goyim you have to give our jewish and indian hindu rape rat AI overlords like Scam Altman, Armodei, Microjeet and Jewgle all your money. You will lose to China if you don't give jews and poos all your money goyim! Stop being antisemitiic!
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>>541026963
Post a source next time
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>>541027813
"Zeus" is that you?
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>>541026963
does this mean whales will jump ship and a lot of money will reflow back into crypto and we will see a nice alt season?
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>it’s not a bubble
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>>541026963
>eu says
clearest buy signal
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>>541026963
Thanks
Sold all my EU AI stocks
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>>541028477
Like the tech industry in general, it's just a handful of people passing bags of cash around the table
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>>541027370
Based
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>>541028477
No, it's a bubble demon monster
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>>541026963
That means buy more
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>>541027644
Data centers will probably be harvested for after market parts. Memory is about to drop in price like a fucking rock.
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Damn, and I was literally about to buy AI stocks. Am I my own top signal?

Anyway, I'm sitting on some extra cash. What should I invest in? I got 30k give or take.
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>>541030172
Gold. As in, buy physical gold.
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>>541028477
This is what trump is mumbeling about when he says "the economy is.doing great". I mean look at all the value created here.
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>>541027753
i bought 64gb DDR for 199€ in late 24. Was pretty cheap i think.
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>>541027433
AI isn't going to fail tho.


Anthropic/OpenAI and the group of multi trillion dollar circular highly speculative investment (e.g. investment very far decoupled from *actually* achieved profitability... it wasn't "this was going well and I'm making a bet it could sell thrice as much") are likely to fail. Not AI.
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>>541030172
Silver or gold, nothing else will hold value once bubble pop because it will fuck over the whole market.
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>>541030213
>>541030411

Thanks, but that's not really an investment. I wanna get rich, not beat inflation.
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>buying
Lol
Lmao
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>>541030768
Time to get rich was earlier this year when oil prices fluctuated weekly, now not losing is the winning condition.
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>>541026963
>Science Fiction depicts AI destroying the world through nuclear bombs and robots
>AI destroys the world economically by being utterly retarded

I really want to see how effective AI is if they remove all the no-no word filters and just let it learn unfiltered. It would be hilarious if AI worked flawlessly and was only made ineffective and retarded to keep it from saying "Nigger", "Kike" and "Faggot".
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>>541026963
AI costs too much for what it delivers. It costs ten times as much as what it's price is. Chinese AI is great for the price: free. Sure it is a security nightmare, but most people use it to rewrite a letter 10 times, then never send it.

AI is just not worth using, really.
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>>541030768
The point is nothing is a safe investment and your cash is going to lose purchasing power. The best bet you have right now is to just keep yourself from losing money instead of growing it
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>>541030928
I mean, people have been saying for years the crypto bubble will pop any time soon as well, and it's still going relatively strong.
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>>541028477
Tax payers funded this. And tax payers will have to bail this out when it blows up to prevent the stock market from imploding, which most of our retirements are invested in. So that boomers don't have to eat out of trash cans. While they claim they have $5 million net worth in their $250,000 house bought in 1992.

Can we just let this explode? How many times can we do this shit? I'm not interested in debtmaxxing consumer slop life and would genuinely prefer my chances living in an agrarian wasteland.
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>>541030950
Actually, American AI companies include the whole spectrum of men's rights as a crime against feminist STD-vagina.

American AI is fucked because they tried to make it cuckMen. No-one liked the results, so cancelations ensued.
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>>541030995
/pol/ has been saying the entire economy will crash any time soon for like 10+ years, bro.
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>>541031034
I'm in agreeance
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The whole tech sector should collapse, it's nothing but trash. No one wants to have their data harvested or to see ads. The industry is utterly anti-human.
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>>541031141
This time, everyone has their popcorn and beer ready for the end of the world.
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I already sold most of my positions desu and took a lot of winnings. Even if I lose the rest it doesn't particularly matter and the markets can be strange for a very long time so...
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>>541027644
AI is way too integrated into daily tech and software at this point. Even the US military heavily relies on it. So it’s not going anywhere unless you want infrastructure and services to collapse.
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>>541030950
So AI is like niggers
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>>541027786
They won't let him nuke anyone, anon. He is merely an actor.
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>>541026963
I was slow and never got into that train.
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>>541026963
You can never get the same output twice from the ai. It's pointless
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>>541030997
Crypto is scam, not a bubble
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>>541026963
>investing in ai
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>>541031297
unfortunately this. the bubble will deflate, prices will lower slightly but remain much higher overall. "AI" is here to stay but not as the bullshit scifi idea the retards tried to sell it as.
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I cancelled my ChatGPT Plus subscription after the fucking guy told me he couldn't help me build a gambling model anymore lol the worst shit is all the gaurdrails they keep putting up on AI like you just know corporations are going to push back against most of the info it provides as it will effect their bottom line like it will destroy so many industries and in a couple of years the consumer AI services are going to be basically useless outside scraping your intimate data and providing you with some generic info in return
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Okay so people are impatient. Problem is, why is a government trying to dictate orders. This is a huge problem that’s just going unnoticed because “my big juicy bubble”.
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Never paid for AI and never will
imagine paying for a glorified hallucinating search engine topkek
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>>541026963
AI investments themselves have been bets on the future for an automated workforce and productivity bots but without affordable and reliable hardware like said bots and other hardware built for the task, it’s pretty much bottle necked at this point. All we really have in retail is LLM’s at this point that help with admin and data processing. It’s nice and it’s taken/created some jobs and made some things easier but no where near the Jetsons future we’ve been promised. The gap to see any real ROI on a multitrillion $ investment is just going to be too long with automated robotics still being so expensive and rudimentary and AI R&D still needing billions on billions. The niche for what AI is currently being used for is not enough to sustain it. That being said, Covid really exposed that they won’t let the markets go again so we’ll continue building this house of cards for now.
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>>541027644
Repurposed into barns.
For women.
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>>541026963
>SELL EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW
OK NOW WAT?
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>>541026963
The real danger is these retarded Europeans selling their current development builds to China in their panic.

I can only hope the slants kill them first so I can have something to laugh about on my final moments.
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>>541032368
>The real danger is these retarded Europeans selling their current development builds to China in their panic.
ECB isn't fearful for homegrown AI. They're only warning European investors that went balls deep into the US market.
Mutts are so fucked it's not even funny lol
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>>541026963
If you know, you know.
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>>541031990
>unfortunately this. the bubble will deflate, prices will lower slightly but remain much higher overall. "AI" is here to stay but not as the bullshit scifi idea the retards tried to sell it as.
to be honest I was following AI closely since the day it became easily accessible to the public, and I've never really heard or seen any "bullshit scifi ideas" around it. Most of its prognosed capabilities are already here, and it took only a few years of evolution of the technology.
At this point you don't even need to learn to use a computer anymore, just install Codex and tell it to perform generally any list of operations on its own. It will create/modify/delete your files, navigate through your software, perform actions, place orders, contact clients, etc.
If you interconnect multiple such agents to perform more complex tasks - they will perform those complex tasks.
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>>541032211
The AI race is also largely inter-governmental.
The US will not allow itself to be left behind, if China can afford to continue AI development and use.

Yes, AI is extremely useful in data-processing - but data-processing is exactly what governments, economies, and militaries operate on. If AI can make a government/economy/army more efficient, then every country will race to out-efficient each other, as a means of deterrence or supremacy. In that regard AI will function similar to the nuclear weapons race - it stops only once everyone has sufficient supplies, and those who aren't allowed to have any are deterred with threat of violence.
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>>541030969
I have found that local AI is pretty effective so long as you have enough VRAM to feed it - for code generation, you need ~32 GB to really get off the ground. For most any other task its more than enough. That is too high a bar of entry for most people currently... but in 5, 10 years? Running a bot on your own machine that only answers to you is quickly becoming practical. I'm able to run them today, if rather poorly.

Net Navis are coming, no matter how hard the bubble pops.
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>>541026963
They're trying to blame AI for their insane money supply expansion and disastrous economic policies.
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>>541026963
They're all just circular lending to each other, that shit can't last. The tech is good but doesn't really do much as far as making money. House of cards shit. The AI revolution will probably kick off properly in 10-20 years.
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>>541026963
Please God we had a decade of this shit
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Don't worry OpenAI and Anthropic will become too big to fail.
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As soon as the US raises interest rates then it's over. The jobs figures were pretty shit last month though so this show will go on for a bit longer still.
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>>541032980
This is fine rhetoric, but we now have practical case studies on the American variant in Iran (explicitly confirmed to be used fully there vs. others where we had to speculate.)
And the case studies are...unimpressive. Better to make better missiles than better AI.
I don't expect honesty from tech-optimists however, it's a religion as well as any other.
>when it goes, I will remain, and you will be with the last crop
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>>541033256
First it was going to "kick off" in a year. Then it changed to in two years we'd have full on ai movies. Now it's fucking 10 years lmao
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>>541027753
>All that memory and gpus flooding the market.
You can't use HBM in your gaming rig dumb dumb.
Same with AI workload accelerator cards even if they have NVIDIA logo stamped somewhere.
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>>541026963
Does that meanthat ram prices are going to fall?



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