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Daily reminder that marrying a woman who has slept with another man before is a humiliation ritual forced upon us by Jews and demons. No hymen no diamond. No exceptions.
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>>541027297
marrying a woman under western law is just a bad business proposition for men
just rename it "divorcefare" because thats what it is
weaponized divorce
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>>541027297
she seems nice, so what's wrong with her?
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>>541027409
Nothing, so what if her last two boyfriends were black?
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>>541027297
Leave me alone.
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Lets not pretend you had a shot to begin with OP. You'd have to go out and talk to women for that.
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>>541027552
What year do you live in anon? No one “goes out” anymore, especially not the kind of women worth marrying.
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>>541027297
Daily reminder that men who think they should be able to sleep around but their future wife shouldn't are hypocrites of the highest order and degenerates who led the world to where it is today.
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>>541027297
The funny part is that you want to marry and not die alone, unmarried.
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>>541028049
>men who think they should be able to sleep around
Only normies think that.
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>>541028155
What is the point you are trying to make ESL?
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Historically it was understood the only valuable a known non-virgin wife had was in a political marriage. She had to be the daughter of someone wealthy or important. These women are not virgins, not the daughters of wealthy men, and not the daughters of important men. Your great grandfather and all the men in his lineage before him would’ve considered virtually all women alive today worthless whores unfit for marriage.
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>>541027297
but it's ok if YOU slept with another woman?
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>>541027297
It's so bad here that even if she was a virgin it would be a bad deal nevermind her being a filthy whore that's been pounded by 100s of random dudes these whores are broken do you know what kinda shit that does to someone being involved in 100s of different relationships, nevermind how disgusting the sexual shit is but just the emotional damage these foids have suffered is tremendous. They all need serious therapy these women are broken and belong in a ditch somewhere not being someone's wife or mother it's disgusting are you going to knock up one of these animals and let them kiss your children knowing where her mouth has been? Fucking disgusting I wouldn't marry a western woman for all the money in the world
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>>541029972
Yes. This has already been solved. Keys and locks.
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>>541027297
Don't care my girls awesome in bed and out of it
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>>541028049
Men don't catch Cum IN THEIR BRAIN, but the woman does.
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>>541030017
It's not good regardless if you want more than one woman you better be prepared to take care of her sleeping around is trash ass behaviour even for a man you ruin her for everyone else then you bail on her it's cowardly
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>>541029972
>but it's ok if YOU slept with another woman?
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>>541030020
She’s awesome in bed because she had a lot of practice with other men’s cocks before you. She had other men’s dicks and cum inside all her holes before you. Probably had cum on her face many times as well. Disgusting. Absolute humiliation. Her previous boyfriends probably still have photos and videos of her with their cock in her mouth and they probably jerk off to it to this day as well. No amount of cope will change this anon.
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>>541027297
The tradwife psyop died quickly on /pol/ because tradwives are picky and selective with who they have sex with. Out of all the men she can choose, she’s not going to pick an incel.
An incel is more likely to get sex from an actual prostitute or stripper than a tradwife.
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>>541030141
Ok I agree it is suboptimal, but the point is male and female bodycounts are not equivalent.

The deeper point is male and female are not equivalent in general.
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>>541030343
No the tradwife psyop died because it’s a fucking psyop. Most “tradwife” content creators and women claiming to be trad are not virgins, they are just attention seeking whores like the majority of women in general. You can call us incels all you want anon but that wont cancel out the dicks your girl has taken before you.
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>>541030514
>Most “tradwife” content creators and women claiming to be trad are not virgins
somehow the internet full of "trad" men, AKA incels who can't get laid, just can't figure out that real trad women DON'T HAVE JOBS AS INFLUENCERS so by definition any woman you see online with a large following is not trad.

Real trad women are at home pregnant without a job. I literally know these women in my church.
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>>541031061
Wait, what?! Next you will tell me water is wet and niggers are dumb. Everyone knows that anon, you aren’t telling us some kind of esoteric or difficult to obtain knowledge. I guess I stuck a nerve with the previous dicks comment.
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>>541030331
Yeah cool thanks for the bump kike
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>>541027297
Men who know how to please women could not give a fuck less if their wife is a virgin. Being the first is not nearly as important as being the best. Give your girl good dick and she'll stay faithful and loyal. Even virgins are going to eventually get sick and tired of your whiny and insecure bleatings why you fail to satisfy her night after night, and they'll leave you or cheat on you.
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>>541028049
You say that, but women want their men to sleep around to both get experience and prove that you've got the women cult mind seal of approval and are worth social value.
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>>541031803
All this pathetic cope doesn’t change the fact your girl had another man’s cum on her face before you. It doesn’t matter if you are better than them in every way, and that’s assuming she would even be honest with you about that.
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>>541027297
I only marry women I designed myself with gene edits. If you dont design your own women you are not white.
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>no hymen no diamond
OP is a pedophile.
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>>541027297
>No hymen no diamond. No exceptions.
you weren't going to get pussy anyway, pathetic incel
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>>541032740
>>541032943
>wanting to marry a virgin makes you a pedophile
>wanting to marry a virgin makes you an incel
Any more galaxy brained takes you want to share? Thanks for the bump though.
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>>541030343
Wrong. Incels can have sex IF they become gangstalked. Their handlers will suck them
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>>541033175
>Any more galaxy brained takes you want to share?
Sure dumbshit,
How old are you, and how old would this virgin have to be to still have her hymen intact?
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>>541031803
It's not about being the best even if you are her best which is highly unlikely given the fact that these modern foids are sleeping with a new guy every day for years on end you're still marrying a public urinal, everyone's had their dick in her and it's just fucking gross, sex is absolutely disgusting and some guy's are dirt bags like who knows what she's done with them or had done to her probably been pissed on eaten ass exchanged bodily fluids I want to puke just thinking about it these whores are just revolting
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I (30) did my best, but I ended up with a 32 year old woman that had two guys before me (and I had 15 girls before her). None of the girls that I slept with were virgins, so I just gave up and settled. At least she treats me well, is beautiful, often brings me cookies she baked, and drives 40 minutes to come visit me every weekend. She's happy to do whatever with me when we meet up. This is the best I could do. Going through the dating game looking for a virgin girl was starting to take a toll on me. Especially the break ups and rejections. I'm 30 and have been trying since 18.

So I just threw in the towel and accepted my lot.
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>>541032740
Is this guy saying to find a virgin you have to marry kids?
What is he some religious extremist?
WAIT, I JUST WANT TO TALK
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>>541033539
See
>>541033301
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>>541033301
Why are you so angry anon? Why does a man’s desire to marry a virgin make you so mad? My guess is you are a man whose woman was fucked by other men before you or you are a whore foid who is not a virgin and is insecure about it. Either way this much seething is pathetic.
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>>541033706
>points out you’d be a pedophile for doing that
>stop seething
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>>541027409
she's probably a reformed porn whore who used to gag on dozens of random cocks in one sitting. It looks like a normal woman, but juxtaposed next to her sins it is something truly evil, the kind of thing that forces you to associate the two and remove any doubt or innocence they may have been presumed to have.

Some real evil occult shit.
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>>541027297
At these Jews in the room with you now sport?
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>>541033770
And how exactly does the desire to marry a virgin make one a pedophile?
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>>541033884
No but all the guys who fucked your girl before you are here. They all laugh at you as they remember all the different ways they fucked her and where they blew their loads. They even have pictures and videos of it they still beat off to.
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>>541027297
I'm 32, aint gonna happen.
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>>541027297
>No hymen no diamond
Already can here then saying
"I wait, you create, that's be 3 carats plus tip and luxurious daily allowance"
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>>541034051
I thought about this when my ex's new guy tried to talk shit to me on facebook. I just sent him a picture of her with my cock in her mouth and a clip of a video where she says "I love cumming and its all because of *my full name here*" and then i blocked him and reported him to ICE.
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>>541027297
Even kissing such a woman is humiliating.
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>>541031803
>Men who know how to please women could not give a fuck less if their wife is a virgin. Being the first is not nearly as important as being the best. Give your girl good dick and she'll stay faithful and loyal. Even virgins are going to eventually get sick and tired of your whiny and insecure bleatings why you fail to satisfy her night after night, and they'll leave you or cheat on you.
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>>541034000
Because virgins are realistically all under 16-18, and that's all jailbait. Even if you snatch one of the 1% left by age 20 you better get it done by the time you're 25-29 because that age gap is just going to keep growing
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>>541027297
>>541034139
diamonds are jewish trickery
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>>541034243
So because most women are whores who lose their virginity before they graduate high school, the desire to marry a virgin makes one a pedophile? Bulletproof logic anon.
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>>541027390
Always was, broski. Why do you think it's called matrimony and not fatrimony?
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>>541027480
Every Christian girl deserves a black husband
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When you take a woman's virginity her physical and emotional pair bond strength if off the charts. She will be loyal as fuck and love you strongly.

If a woman's taken 75 dicks before and like 6 boyfriends then ur just guy provider #7 bro, utterly replaceable if the boxes aren't constantly checked.

Also a virgin will consider your sexual performance top level and love it even though you might be a terrible lay. WHen a woman's had many previous partners it is inevitable you will be compared to previous men.
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>>541028049
>Men and women are the same waaaaaagh
Kys christfag
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>>541030070
>>541031909
>>541029972
>>541030017
there are roughly as many men as woman. If man get to sleep around then some women wont be virgins and you force their jewish humliation onto them thus you are PART of the problem
No hymen no diamond only works if both parties keep their end of the deal.
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>>541027297
>marrying a woman
kys simp
>>541027390
this
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>>541034489
>onto them
the men who now have to deal with the non virgin women
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>>541027297
Retard take. Unless you marry your highschool sweetheart, expecting your future spouse to be a virgin is moronic.
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>>541034472
>She will be loyal as fuck and love you strongly.
i did this and she would do anything for me and then i ghosted her when i started fucking a WAY hotter girl. high school btw. I still feel bad. I was her first and she did love me and was admittedly a cool person but I fucked every one of the geek/nerd/anime girls as that one guy who fits into the geeky nerd group and the popular group at the same time. she ended up getting married to a jeet.

I'm sorry Meagan
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>>541034404
If your desire is to marry a virgin, and most virgins are minors, you’re probably a pedophile.
Answer me this: would you fuck a 16 year old virgin if you were over 21 years old?
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>>541034580
because 5 years diff is almost no diff go fuck yourself with your retarded ageofconsent-is-18years-bullshit
16 is normal and 14 is (arguably) too in some cases
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>>541027297
She's been blacked over and over. Her loose hole has high cock mileage. She's ready to settle down now.
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>>541028049
True but it’s feminized Normie men who do this.
>brah whom am I hurting xddd?
Uhhh ill kill you??
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>>541034565
hahaha nice. Probably still thinks about you sometimes or brought you up later in life when her girlfriends asked about her first time.

The weird thing is you experienced her at her absolute prime, virgin teen in the peak of her vitality, something the jeet can never have.

Women freak out when you talk to them about this theory. Probably because they know its true.
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>>541034634
there's a large difference between a 16 year old and a 21 year old in levels of maturity, much less a 14 year old, but you'd find it difficult to find any man who would turn down a virgin 16 year old coming onto him.
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>>541030431
It would be better to say male and female are identical than to produce unmarried whores.
>are you like a feminist
No. But this idea that men could or should sleep around is stupid.
>why can’t men do cocaine? They aren’t the same as women
Sleeping around is bad for everyone, like cocaine.
Women should have the legal right to extract wealth from/force a man to marry them if that man slept with them.
Easy safeguard,
Don’t sleep around.
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>>541034472
>Also a virgin will consider your sexual performance top level and love it even though you might be a terrible lay.
if only this were true.
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>>541033301
I knew a bunch of women who reached their 20s still virgins.
>they were lying
They weren’t lying to their sisters.
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>>541034634
>go fuck yourself with your retarded ageofconsent-is-18years-bullshit
You’re a pedophile. Deal with it Epstein.
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>>541034580
That’s like saying that most women with blonde hair are children because hair darkens with age, therefore guys who are into blondes are into children.

You’re obviously a woman.
Men want virgins.
>b-but you’re le pedo
Men want virgins.
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>>541034814
you're sitting around listening to the discussions they have with their sisters about whether their pussies are fucked or unfucked?
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>>541034814
And how old are you going to be if they’re in their 20s?
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>>541034520
Yes, that's why men who sleep around are whore makers. They become everyone else's problem and it goes both ways. It's almost like monogamy is a good thing.
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>>541034864
>calls me a woman
>is a pedophile
A gay pedophile I guess.
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>>541034051
That's a good one. No really. Well done sport. We're all getting there gentlemen. We're all getting there.
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>>541034152
You sound like a homosexual
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>>541029972
Men and women aren't the same. Men and women are different. And their value is different
You're just mentally ill
And can't figure out what Mankind has known for millions of years
You're actually dumber than a literal caveman and cavewoman from 40,000 BCE
What's the point of all your "technology" and "progress" if you're this fucking stupid?
Really, what's it all for if the average person is as stupid as you
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Don't use uppercase
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>>541035054
Don't pretend you're a man, let alone sentient, when you masked and vaxxed for 2 years of your life like cattle livestock
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>>541035023
is that black jennifer lawrence?
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>>541034850
cope faggot!
next thing youll say is the aoc should be 24yo
Nigger
>>541034745
yes. yet a 5y difference in that age spectrum is where Id draw the line but.
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>>541027297
No, it is marriage itself, not the bodycount. Women simply cannot deal with the responsibility and once you make compromises that make you look weak they exit on you if there isnt a culture that prevents them from doing this. Marriage itself is a game you shouldnt play. It makes you default the safe bet and women dont respect the safe bet. Things like family planning are inherently beta male shit. In a feminist-dominated society you simply impregnate and take care of your children but you never deliver unrestricted commitment. Doing so is outright insane and you can be what you zoomers call the biggest gigachad, still wont suffice because once women get accustomed to whatever you provide the only thing that after getting habituated to that still matters is mental strength. However, your mental strength between a good father and dealing with her BS is a battle you cannot win given she has institutional backing. You will resort to compromise. Evolutionary speaking that looks like weakness to women though and since they lack introspection they exist on you then. Dont deal with high bodycount women though, you dont want a std, they all have stds. It is nearly impossible to not get a std if you're very promiscious. People always used to talk about aids when I grew up but there is other stuff like anti-biotics resistant trippers and such out there

tl;dr: Never get married to anybody. Boomers who tell you to dont know how to date, they are simps who have to exchange commitment for sex, a very poor trade that over time fizzles out.
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>>541035171
> 24
I am dating a woman half my age and I am 46. It isnt automatic but if you approach enough women perfectly doable. The main issue with it is that you will be subjected to social costs as a result. There are tons of angry christcucks and woke people out there who are against this.
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Today I will remind them:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35843387/
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>>541034580
With logic as retarded as that you must be a woman. Also 16 year old isn’t pedophile you dumb fuck. 16 is the age of consent in my state.
>would you fuck a 16 year old virgin
Yes. Stay mad used up whore.
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>>541035229
kek based
Im waiting for a lesbian to get to her senses (they always do when they get older). Fortunately that preserved her purity somewhat
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>>541035023
Why are you calling cavemen dumb? They'd box your fucking ears in sunny.
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>>541035301
Never simp, if a woman doesnt go along with your program go to another one. Oneitis is simping too. Problems are answered with going to the next woman. This is why marriage is unacceptable today, women can slowly grind you down over years till only a shadow of your former self remains. Happened to me, I am divorced. You can still have children, just dont ever marry.
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>>541034787
It is. What's she going to compare it to? I mean maybe if you're so terrible you cum in 13 seconds then yes.
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>>541035356
>if a woman doesnt go along with your program go to another one
Unfortunately I cannot choose who I fall in love with
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>>541035283
>incels calling other peoples arguments retarded
Do you have a life size doll of a Boy Scout for you to finger too you pedophile?
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>>541035171
I’d rather be a faggot than be a pedophile like you.
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>>541027297
>talks about jewish tricks
>wants to buy a diamond ring
Oh no it’s retarded
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>>541035426
>implying you arent already one
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>>541035476
>woodchipper memes
Cute. People like you should be gassed.
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Is this what incels are using as their excuse nowadays?
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>>541035229
i don't think most people really care about age gaps once you're past your early twenties. her friends may find it a bit strange but it isn't comparable to ones in high school as you're no longer separated by laws and literal classes divided by birth year. once you're considered full adults they really only bitch at having incompatible life stages, like her young friends not wanting to hear about "kids these days" complaints or issues with ex-wives and custody and the older partner not wanting to hear about her inane group gossip.

>>541035364
this only works if women are kept in the dark about sex as they were several generations ago in the west, not sure about elsewhere. when her baseline knowledge about sex is literally nothing and it's verboten to discuss it with her female friends, you can convince her you're a casanova easily until you're years deep into a marriage. the sexual revolution disrupted this. she knows what sex is, she knows what good sex is, and she likely watches porn and masturbates even if a virgin while her friends discuss their sexcapades with her. even if they're somewhat modest themselves or are only in serious relationships, female friend groups encourage whoredom as sexual experimentation and "getting one over on the guys" by using them first, expecting to be used and discarded for sex. she knows what a small penis is and how poorly you can perform, but you may be able to convince her with manipulation that her desire for her own orgasm is selfish and the focus in sex should be on providing pleasure for you. she'll oblige to keep you happy as women expect men to look elsewhere for sex if not satisfied, while she will restrain herself unless - and this is very important, especially with repressed women and virgins - she spots a sporting young man and experiences lust comparing his hypothetical dicking to your less-than-stellar real one.

this is why men in cultures prizing virginity/modesty isolate their wives in harems/purdah.
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>>541035356
>You can still have children, just dont ever marry.
repulsive.
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>>541035403
>wanting to marry a virgin makes you a pedophile
>wanting to fuck a 16 year old makes you a pedophile
>actually you are gay
Yeah whatever men still prefer debt free virgins without tattoos. Keep seething though it keeps the thread alive.
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>>541027297
>marrying a woman who has slept with another man before
>humiliation
>upon us by Jews
(as usual speaking on behalf of everyone and thinking everybody is gullible)
>No hymen no diamond
That's why men in the middle-east marry very young girls
To be sure they're virgins
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Women arent virgins because their parents send them to the school system which is a giant retard factory. Amish people usually get married at 21 which is around the same age as historical europeans. Meanwhile we are having sex and watching porn before high school because the school system and media are terrible, terrible influences on children. It isnt even what is taught in school, it is the peer environment, lack of role models, and disconnect from family.
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>>541035634
>stop seething pedophile hater
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>>541027297
In the West? Nah, everyone knows white people and Christians are just a bunch of simps and cucks for leftovers/whores
Here? Of course. That's the norm, you just expect a girl to be a virgin, otherwise everyone is going to call you a simp or a cuck. This is how a healthy society works. Degeneracy should be shunned
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>>541035399
You will lose on this, women use feelings of men as a doormat. They can only empathize with themselves, maybe their children and other women but almost never men. Once you realize you're out there all by yourself it puts things into perspective

>>541035426
You're a retard. Pedophile means someone who is into children pre puberty.

11 years - yes that is a pedophile
14-15 selectively no if she has a woman silhoutte - not pedophile
16 + definitely not a pedophile

It is natural law. I wouldnt date them though because I dont want to deal with school shit, in theory I find nothing offensive about a man dating a 15yo though. Its just highly impractical. Also they all their way into their early 20s are full of gross pimples.
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>>541035677
Agreed. It’s a combination of things, but as you mentioned, the education system, parenting, and culture as a whole are the biggest factors. Boys and girls should not be in school together.
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>>541034580
>>541035634
There is nothing wrong with fucking a 16 year old as a 21 year old. However, like I said, it wasn't the most common arrangement historically. Historically, 16 year olds weren't hypersexualized the way they are today. Today, 16 year olds of both genders are massive perverts, due to the evil influence of the school system and media. Also the clothing industry. You have probably noticed that prepubescent girls are now dressing and acting in those fashions.
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>>541035599
Playing by the old rules in a new system wont get you anything. Christcuck morality does nothing but hurt men

Me: Marriage doesnt work
> Christcuck: but I want it to work
Me: But it doesnt, look at the outcomes, you cannot force women to behave and they can bleed you financially
> Christcuck: But things should be differently
Me: In theory I agree but they arent
> Christcuck: Just do it anyway then
Me: No
> Christcuck: This is degenerate
Me: I dont care, I am not going to let men run into the knife with seeing eyes, at the same time fatherhood is good so its either children without marriage or nothing. Just poke a hole in the damn condom
> Christcuck: this is predatory
Me: You're literally a feminist, women cannot respect a man who "plans a family".
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>>541035735
>AKSHUALLY ITS EPHEBOPILIA
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>>541035678
It is actually you who are the pedophile since apparently you want to uphold the status quo in which underage girls lose their virginity instead of being abstinent until marriage. It’s almost as if you want young girls to be deflowered. Yeah, you are a pedophile actually.
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>>541035813
>claims this is about sexualization
>not age differences and corresponding maturity differences
Okay pedophile.
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>>541035649
>>541035718
Middle eastern women are alright, most of them react very positively to being approached. They are the most kind women in my experience. My gf is a Brazilian but she is half Syrian half Portuguese. They are cute too. Shows how much a difference it does being raise right.

>>541035890
I dont care, natural law. Do you think some fox or wolf asks if a female is ready for consent? This is a hallmark of a dying culture, you're a Nietzschean last man if you operate like this
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>>541035905
>no u
Kys Epstein.
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>>541035735
The best age would surely be somewhere around 20. And historically many, but not all of them, would still be virgins to that age. They would also probably have alabaster white skin and wear nice and pretty dresses. However, the standards for men were much higher as well. And this is because instead of being raised in batches by government agencies, children were raised by people who cared about their performance, appearance and character. Most of our ancestors until 1900 would look at the way children are raised today as the absolute height of absurdity. Especially in your cunt where homeschooling is literally illegal.
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>>541035950
>natural law
A rapist and a pedophile. Flag checks out.
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>>541036004
>>541035978
The reason I am not into sub 20 something year olds is that they live too much differently from me and have pimples. Nothing else. If we lived in the 16th century without classic jobs and some guy offered me his 16yo daughter I would be ok with it. What also turns me off is that they are so behind nowadays socially. I feel like most young people are borderline autists nowadays.
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>>541035834
when did i say anything about christianity? promiscuous breeding is just trashy regardless. women don't respect you and you don't respect them. i'm not sure why you want to put a child in one and make that poor thing have to deal with them too.
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BTW
Talking about virginity ( and hymen)
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>>541035978
Oh and yeah, homeschooling is illegal here. People cope by sending their children to private schools or "one of the good school districts". I have two sons from my previous marriage, the schools are lame and gay. Dont think much of private schools though, they employ the same way-educated teachers, same curriculum so its worthless, you're just paying shittons for feeling good. Elons son went to a private school and still trooned out.

>>541036071
Women respect a man with options, women dont respect a man who restricts himself in an unfavorable deal because he feels this is the only way to negotiate out reliable pussy access. That is what it looks like. Family planning for men is almost gay

>>541036121
Really goes to show how far you can make it just by being the right person in the right place. My gf has some Syrian ancestry so she isnt that genetically removed from her, I have seen some of her friends who also do in Brazil via pictures from her phone and conclude that Mia Khalifa who is genetically similar is a pretty ugly bitch by their standards
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>>541027297
Better get cracking

According to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the National Survey of Family Growth (NSFG), approximately 12.3% of 20-to-24-year-old females are virgins.

Age 18 - 35% are virgins. The "tipping point" where the majority of young women have had sex.

20-24 - 12% are virgins, 1 in 8

24-29 - less than 5% virgin


You can just marry your high school sweetheart. I got with mine when we were both 15 year old virgins.

If that fails, it's going to be tough to find a virgin when you're out of high school, but there are still some left in their 20s so work hard on trying to get one of those fast while you're in your 20s. I almost got myself one when in my 20s and went crazy when I lost her and she told all her loved ones I was a dangerous stalker
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>>541035974
You think virginity is something to be lost in childhood, which means you support the idea of underage girls having sex. Yes, you are a pedophile.
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>>541036121
Kek, reminds me of a video I saw of a girl saying she was a virgin, except she had blown like tens of dudes, which is (in my humble opinion) even worse



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