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Gives you free will and the ability to craft your own destiny somehow is the bad guy.
Make it make sense
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>>541027500
Satan didn't give anyone anything. Fight me.
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>>541027500
Everything is a test with consequences. Choose wisely.
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>>541027588
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1 post by this evil cunt of an op
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If you believe in jc, you're going to burn in hell. Even for gentiles. It's idolatry
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>>541027614
Blasphemy is not an argument.
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>>541027500
Gross misinterpretation
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>>541027662
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My favorite Archetype.
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>>541027500
Hails to the homie
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>>541027500
The Greeks and Romans also thought Prometheus was bad which always seemed strange to me.
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>>541027594
>DRUMPF IS THE ANTICHRIST
Kill urself
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>>541027500
>Gives you free will and the ability to craft your own destiny
But not the ability to make the right choice every time. Free will isn't a good thing. We're forced to make a choice, and because we were denied knowledge we are destined to keep making wrong choices and suffer as a result. So basically we have no choice but to keep failing and keep suffering.
Before we had free will there was 0% chance of us suffering, with free will those chances jump up catastrophically. Why someone would deliberately ruin being's lives is beyond me.
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>>541027500
that's antisemitic goyim
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>>541027500
Extremely Jewish post.
Meme flag.
Smells like curry and shit.
They're sending their best.
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>>541027500
God gave you free will. Demons give you a lot of promises and then drag you to hell to rip your arms off forever
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>>541027500
>God grants freewill
>Sets out boundaries and consequences for violating them
>Satan deceives Eve about the consequences
Where did Satan grant freewill or self-determination again?
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>>541027936
I will end your suffering right now: stop being a whiny little faggot. I'm serious.
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>>541027500
> free will
How is this supposed to work in a world of cause and effect?
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>>541027925
You’ll burn in Hell, faggot
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>>541028010
>God gave you free will.
Whoever it was did us a bad favor. We suffer as a result of their action. Let me ask you two questions, anon:
If you love someone, do you protect them from suffering, or do you make them suffer?
If you hate someone, do you protect them from suffering or do you make them suffer?
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>>541028083
The antichrist will be widely and universally loved by all.
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>>541028122
By all retards
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>>541027500

Women have been given free will and the ability to craft their own destiny, and do you think anything good has resulted from the endeavor?
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>>541028010
You guys unironically believe this shit?
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>>541027500
He isn't. The demiurge had his chosen people peddle their bullshit that makes everyone worship him and call the one who tried to help us escape and remember what we are the adversary. You will still have Christians defend that trash book to death and will even go as far as accepting the kosher version of Christ that is completely wrong and not what he was teaching. Watch the npcs refute by talking about loving their millenia old jewish propaganda.
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>>541027500
His goal was to separate God's creation from God by installing free-will.
Free-will, however, is divine, and possibly unique to humans being the creation of Lucifer.
It takes into question whether or not Lucifers actions or even Gods happen on their own volition, or if they are forces with pre-set pathings.
Free-will may very well be more divine then even the grace of the angels when you think about it.
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>>541027500
Yahweh is the god of the Jews.
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>>541028258
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>>541028058
additionally a man can only will within predefined parameters
whether that be his own ignorance or an outside force binding him
therefore to call it "free will" is inaccurate
limited will at best
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>>541027500
>Make it make sense
Satan as he's described in popular Christian myth is more similar to Prometheus than any of his Biblical descriptions, which seem to be of a more Ahriman type character. The serpent in the garden being Lucifer is more of a retcon to tie the character into more of the book than something any writer actually thought about.

It actually speaks volumes on the character of Christianity as an anti-knowledge, anti-life, authoritarian religion. Prometheus has a similar arc in being a god (titan technically) who "falls" for the sin of giving man a gift; in Prometheus's case fire, in Satan/Lucifer's case knowledge. But in Greek myth, Prometheus is the good guy, and his sacrifice for the benefit of humanity is lauded.

However, Lucifer is hated in his religion, because Christianity hates knowledge and freedom. The serpent's gift, which in any normal mythology would be seen as a boon, is instead viewed as the original sin, because the Christian himself sees the freedom and the knowledge to choose on your own as inherently evil.

So obviously, the Christian feels that what would be inherently good is if nobody had freedom or knowledge to choose, and if they just did what they were told every time in eternal supplication; and only an evil snake would ruin that.

This is supposed to be the most based religion to fight the power with, by the way.
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Nobody wants to actually argue for their view? Telling.

>>541027588
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>>541027614
>Intellectual dishonest and misconstrued caricature
Lol. What chick are you trying to impress with this painfully predictable edgy atheist meme. Ever considered that its time to grow up?
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>>541028402
Nope and this is mental gymnastics at best. You have free will but not freedom of no consequences or freedom of full, unblinded knowledge. We live in a fallen world of sin, ignorance and corruption, get used to it.
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>>541028440
Pope Bob is sending assassins to silence you, with some nigger feet you can kiss as your last rite.
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>>541027500
Why do atheists always have the most literal interpretations of religion?
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>>541028010
This. Lucifer always offers temporary boons. The moment it comes time to pay back, you will be unable and you're his slave forever.

Hey wait a minute that sounds like usury!
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OH MY GOD GIVE IT A FUCKING REST HOLY SHIT EVEN /POL/ IN ITS WORSE FORM STILL LAUGHS AT AND HATES YOU SATANIST PIECES OF SHIT FUCK OFF YOU FAGS HAVE SPENT LITERALLY YEARS SHILLING YOUR GAY JEWISH FAGGOT
FUCK YOUR JEWISH FAIRYTALE
FUCK YOU
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>>541029136
no shit retard the idea of satan goes back thousands of years. Maybe even began with Ahriman/Angra Mainyu or earlier.
>Jewish fairytale
Nothing jews came up with was original. 100% of their mythos is stolen from various other cultures and patched together to be beneficial to them, not done by belief or faith.
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> subversive jewish nonsense
fuck off kike
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>>541027588
He gave you Knowledge where Yahweh wanted you dumb and blind.
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>>541029045
You’re Yahweh’s slave and somehow you think he isnt deceiving you lol. Just you wait.
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>>541027614
I unironically believe this meme has transcended reality to such a level that it's truly the pinnacle of human argumentative power against the existence of god. It's so good man. There is absolutely nothing that can be said. If you open this image you stop believing in god automatically.
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>>541029835
Good
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>>541027902
Yes nigger, every single civilization that didn't have God worshipped demons.
And yes we believe it because it'a fucking true.
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>>541029835
>god doesn't exist because he doesn't answer to prayers
really? you needed a retarded meme for that?
dude did you know the child of the pharaoh was a child too? and he died?
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>>541027500
>Find a shotgun when you're existentially 2 years old
>look at me I'm a big boy
Ego is going to take you down. Many such cases.
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>>541029301
No he didn't.
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>>541027500
I have free will to do what I want but I choose to oscillate.
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>>541027500
why did he do that?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdfReE0qds&pp=0gcJCRMMAYcqIYzv&ra=m
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>>541027500
God only asked Lucifer to bend over before his ultimate creation, Man. But, instead of acquiescing, he got so butthurt like a little bitch that he defiantly challenged God and got cast out from Heaven. He's been mad and blaming mankind ever since.
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>>541027500
That's Jesus.. you Faggot.//. +Christ+ gave us the way to Craft our own Destiny Through Love. We still don't owe anyone, no Soul has to be $ouled. and Love is the Ultimate Freedom with positive Karma Value.. Love is the Law.
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>>541032010
Suffering is not love.
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>>541027500
satan is derived from God, in the order of things he is beneath Him. If you are after the Truth and no inferior substitutes, you would have to be deceived or apathetic to take satan over God.
Also, parallel your argument to capitalism and get your answer.
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>>541027588
>the serpent said to the woman, 'You will not die; your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.'
Genesis 3:4-5

>the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.
Genesis 3:22

At the very least he gave context
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>>541032399
Is someone preventing God from getting rid of Satan?
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>>541032519
>He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.
So it was not OK to prevent Adam and Eve from eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, but it's OK to prevent them from eating from the tree of life? What about their free will?
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>>541032531
According to extended christian lore, Satan already got kicked out for rebelling but evidently that doesn't stop him from simply slithering back in
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>>541032621
>What about their free will?
How do you have Free Will without being able to tell beneficial from deleterious?
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>>541027500
We should cancel United Nations!

It is Useless organization!

Also believe in GOD is mental illness!
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>>541032777
Holy digits
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Has anybody ever really understood the celebrated story that stands at the beginning of the Bible, concerning God’s deadly panic over science? The old God, entirely “spirit”, a high priest through and through, and wholly perfect, is wandering in a leisurely fashion round his garden; but he is bored. Against boredom even the gods themselves struggle in vain. What does he do? He invents man, man is entertaining… But, behold, even man begins to be bored. God’s compassion for the only form of misery that is peculiar to all paradises, exceeds all bounds: so forthwith he creates yet other animals. God’s first mistake: man did not think animals entertaining, – he dominated them, he did not even wish to be an “animal”. Consequently God created woman. And boredom did indeed cease from that moment, but many other things ceased as well! Woman was God’s second mistake. – “Woman in her innermost nature is a serpent” – every priest knows this: “all evil came into the world through woman,” – every priest knows this too. “Consequently science also comes from woman”… Only through woman did man learn to taste of the tree of knowledge. – What had happened?
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>>541032863
Panic had seized the old God. Man himself had been his greatest mistake, he had created a rival for himself, science makes you equal to God, – it is all up with priests and gods when man becomes scientific! – Moral: science is the most prohibited thing of all, it alone, is forbidden. Science is the first, the germ of all sins, the original sin.
How can one guard against science? For ages this was his principal problem. Reply: man must be kicked out of paradise! Happiness, leisure leads to thinking, all thoughts are bad thoughts… Man must not think. – And God invents distress, death, any misery, old age, above all disease, all employed in the struggle with science! Trouble prevents man from thinking… And notwithstanding all these precautions! Oh, horror! The work of science towers aloft, it storms heaven itself, – what’s to be done? – The God invents war; he separates the nations, and contrives to make men destroy each other mutually (- the priests have always been in need of war…). War, among other things, is a great disturber of science! – Incredible! Knowledge nevertheless increases. – So the old God arrives at this final decision: “Man has become scientific, there is no help for it, he must be drowned!”…
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>>541027852
Indeed, Bröther, indeed
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>>541027936
>Before we had free will there was 0% chance of us suffering

By what retarded logic?
You can suffer without making choices.

Your child catches a deadly desease - where is the choice? Volcano erupts - where is he choice?
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>>541027500
Thank you lucifer, what a hero
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>>541033119
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>>541027500
He is a fictional character of a schizo feminist desertnigger tribe of course he is the bad guy because gave humanity sapience and the guy who keeps wiping out humanity over petty shit is the good guy.
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>>541033152
What a gigachad seriously
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>>541028188
My tomboy wife chose me so can't be all bad
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>>541033212
https://youtu.be/0UekqPic42c
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>>541027902
The fuck are you on about you uncultured nigger gods loathed Prometheus people revered him as a benefacto when throughout his tricky and mischievous nature
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>>541032698
What does this ha e to do with my question? Read it again. How is preventing them from eating from the second tree not a violation of their free will?
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>>541032698
>How do you have Free Will without being able to tell beneficial from deleterious?
Can you not feel good in isolation? Do you need to eat shit to know that chocolate tastes good? No you don't.
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>>541032630
Getting rid of him completely. Eliminating him, killing him, deleting him from existence.
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>>541033629
If Satan makes Free Will possible by enabling Knowledge of "Good" and "Evil", why would Jahweh the Demiurge care about violating it, when He clearly never intended for it in the first place, hmm?
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>>541027500

> Gives you free will

That was God, actually.
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>>541033672
You can't make free choices if you can't tell harm from benefit

simple as
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>>541033874
Why not? What is not free if there's only good choices available? You're still free to choose, are you not?
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>>541027500
>muh jewbook gobbeldygook comic villian
fuck off christkike
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>>541029301
knowledge of what? Now everyone is blind to their own spirit. How'd that work out you stupid atheist who tries to champion the bad guy in a fairy tale you dont even believe in. Fuck off you dishonest piece of shit. Get raped in hell cock sucker
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>>541033743
It's a simple question. Can you answer it? Should i repeat it?
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>>541033911
As free to choose as a deer is to cross the road or not
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>>541033984
I already answered it, but Alas! You're a dimwit
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>>541027500
Satan is a liar. Everything he promised Eve was something they had already. You will be like God? They were immortal and sinless. Hidden knowledge? They took walks with God in the Garden. Any questions? Just ask Him. They followed Satan and lost those things.
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>>541033976
>knowledge of what?
Good and Evil: ~>>541032519
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>>541034104
>Oh, yeah, Rex, you want to live innawoods?
>Fool that you are! For my Master still takes me for walks in the Park! I bet you feel stupid rn
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>>541034178
You forgot the guaranteed destruction. Adam was the Master over everything until he listened to Satan.
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>>541034322
>B-but what about Death?
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>>541034010
No you haven't. I will ask again.
S
How can it not be OK to prevent Adam and Eve from eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, but it's OK to prevent them from eating from the tree of life? Why do you say it's not free will if they would have been prevented from eating from the first tree, but it is free will when they were prevented from esting from the other tree? Double standards much?
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>>541034528
>>541033743
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>>541034104
>And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Seems we did not already have what you're claiming we had, as according to jewish lore, it was only through eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge that humans became "like Gods"
Before this, we were not "like Gods"
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>choose to be a faget
>omg why God make me faget
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>>541027500
You're thinking like a jew which is why you're finding Satan so appealing...mental kike
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>>541034839
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>>541034528
They actually weren't prohibited from eating from the tree of life until after they had eaten from the tree of knowledge.
If you read the story, it's very clear that the jew God says that there is only one tree that they can't eat from. Not two. It's only after they're evicted from Eden that the jew God sets a cheribum to guard the tree of life.
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>>541034879
He's also scared of them
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>>541027500
It seems you've started... two threads...
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>cheribum
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>>541034775
They were like God in the Knowledge of good and evil, but now they were mortal.
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>>541027500
The bible is satanic.
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