is Estonia really forcing Russians, 25 % of population, to learn their disgusting mongoloid language ?
>>541031971>is Estonia really forcing Russians, 25 % of population, to learn their disgusting mongoloid language ?It's not about "learning language", people are being discriminated because of their ancestry, family names, not being "native estonian", etc.Basically - if you can hide well enough that you're Russian, you might get by, otherwise you're in trouble. Language is not enough.
>>541031971All russians should be forcefully be moved east of the ural mountains.
>i dont want to speak their language but i want to live thereBrown behavior, and reminder that memeflag = indian unless proven otherwise/Thread
>>541031971The same reason Russia forces their language on Romanian speakers in Transnistia.
>>541032197>All russians should be forcefully be moved east of the ural mountains.Yeah, that's Estonian governments official position. Pretty accurate. Official positions "Russians do not belong here, despite living for generations, 'good Russians' were killed by communists, and 'current Russians' are wrong kind of Russians - non native and should go back to Russia".This is official position.
>>541032262I wish this was true. Russians should never be allowed in Europe.
How did mongoloid become an insult lol
>>541032326>I wish this was true.Well, this is official position.I find it unfortunate, and somewhat misguided, you can be happy out that.I guess the war is already ongoing and it'll be decided on the front-lines, who's right who's wrong here.
Because North America is too mutted it became Europe's responsibility to demonstrate the reality of racial claims etc.Chimp-tier default behavior is the norm. Decades without anyone of note will destroy pretty much any nation/civilization.
>>541032361it will remain a mystery forever
>>541031971I lol'd
>>541032495Russian are colonial remnants. Either they adapt to local custom or they have their métropole at a 20 minute drive where they can be among their people.Having people living in your country learning your own language isn't oppression, it's basic decency.
>>541031971Don't like it? They know where the door is.
>>541031971Seeing as it’s the national language of the country YOU LIVE IN then learn it or fuck off to whatever countrys language you speak.Retarded Vatniks just can’t learn anything besides 4th grade education.
>>541032262These Russians are colonisers pushed there by the Soviets.Russia was the front leader of global decolonisation and now it's time to decolonise Russians.
>>541032661>Having people living in your country learning your own language isn't oppression, it's basic decency.It's not about language. Kids that go to Estonian schools get bullied mercilessly. It's about have SEGREGATED Russian schools, and then renaming to "Ukrainian Schools", and then keeping Russians kids there, educated by Russian teachers and forced to speak Estonian. It's that. It's not about "Welcoming Estonian society", it's about deportations, ghettos, gerry-mandering to the fucking extremes, statues and monuments removal, stripping of voting rights, etc.But I'm pretty sure this won't last for much longer.
>>541032757>These Russians are colonisers pushed there by the Soviets.>Russia was the front leader of global decolonisation and now it's time to decolonise Russians.Damn - spot on. I guess that's why they fight so ferociously.Everything is on the line. And you Panzers failed to take Kursk again, so, we'll see if this ends well for you THIS time, or you'll have some sense and elect AfD before it's too late.
>>541032763Idk what chink source you get your news from, but you are wrong.Schools are actually being desegregated (I oppose, segregation good). Russians being forced to learn in Estonian language environment.Source: my wife is a school teacher.
>>541031971Based stonians. It's the price russhits pay for trying to russify the country during Soviet occupation.
>>541032361Are you pretending to be retarded?
>>541032722You are literally Russians with a funny language. You don't even border anyone except Russians and Latvians — who are also somewhat Russian, but slightly less because they have other neighbors
>>541032763>What do you mean we are forced to learn the language of the country we live in in school?On other news, kid are stupid, do you support invading Estonia because little Ivan was bullied by Kristjan
>>541032816>but you are wrong.We'll see who's wrong, peeter. I think this is NOT ok what "Estonia" did, and it took RUSSIA to open our eyes.All those years living in Estonia we thought we're part of something. Instead that "something" ended up a ram against our own identity and against Russia.If you can explain to me how renaming "Vene Teater" helps defeats Putin maybe I'll listen, lol.But I doubt there's anything other than Delusional Rusophobia you have to offer.Yes, everything is on the line for us once again, and we'll stand till the end, whatever it takes, millions or tens of millions.And don't fucking tell me about non-segregated schools (source: MYSELF).
Estonia is the home of Estonians and all those ryssäniggers who got sent there can and must go back.
>>541032845Lmao you don't even know what you're talking about. Estonian isn't related to Russian in any way. It's not even related to any European language like Magyar, Finnish or Basque.
>>541032143>if you can hide well enough that you're Russiandelusional retard. you can't hide what you are, not in a million years. with rare exceptions we can tell just by looking at you. literally the only thing being asked of you is a functional command of the official language. everyone can tell you're russian and nobody is allowed to discriminate against you for it so long as you do the bare minimum of knowing how to communicate and not openly supporting a hostile foreign country.
>>541032845Mongoloid pidors will never be swedish.Stop larping as them.
>>541031971As they should. It’s Estonia, speak Estonian or get out.
Jewish thread
>>541031971Based and baltic pilled.If you dont like it fuck off back to Vladivostok or some shit.
>>541032958You seem realy upset. Why does being told you have to learn the language of the country you live in, get's your panties in such a twist?
>>541032958Russophobia is Russian agitprop to use Russian minorities as a pretext to invade or at least exert influence on past Russian holdings. You're a tool in Putin hands to destroy Estonia and you shouldn't be surprised Estonians aren't happy about it.
>>541032223So they taught them how to count
>>541032911>On other news, kid are stupid, do you support invading Estonia because little Ivan was bullied by KristjanI support a fair state without segregated schools where Russian kids are mercilessly bullied, alternative being - going to the "Russian" school (which has been renamed and forced to educate in Estonian, despite kids and teachers being Russian).I support a fair state without two tiered society, yes.
>>541032197There's one small problem. None of you beta cuck retards have the strength to do it. KWAB
Russians are grabbing all of their money out of banks, The suspect putin is going to nationalise all the money. -*collapses.
>nooo you can't make nigger muslims assimilate you must respect dey culchaWhen did /pol/ become leftist?
>>541033099Smooking Moscow makes them seek shelter though in Urals kek.
>>541031971I agree OP, I'm black and I refuse to learn French.
>>541033066>Why does being told you have to learn the language of the country you live in, get's your panties in such a twist?Because it's not about the language. What's asked of us is NOT to "learn Estonian", but instead to "forget Russian" and forget our identity.Learning Estonian was NEVER an issue.
>>541033086>forced to educate in Estonian, despite kids and teachers being RussianThere is nothing wrong about that and the fact that you don't realize it and consider it a form of oppression is telling. Estonia is an extremely small country that has to fight for it's own Identity. Not talking French is ground to being expelled in France and you'll be refused most public services if you refuse to learn it.
>>541031971Why do Russians hate themselves so much? Is it the same self-hatred we see among the whites?
>>541033076100 years ago all Russians were still illiterate retards
Any Russian minority is pretty much a threat to national security. They can literally be used as an alibi for Russia to invade.The exact same reason why ethnic germans were expelled from eastern Europe after 1945.
>>541032717This. Who on earth would want to live in Estonia instead of England.
>>541033142Only 50% of Russian in Estonia can speak Estonian (doesn't mean they actually speak it)
>>541033075>You're a tool in Putin hands to destroy EstoniaEstonia is a tool to destroy Russian identity, just like Ukraine is. They've been demolishing ANYTHING culturally Russian for the past 35 years.
>>541033148>Estonia is an extremely small country that has to fight for it's own Identity.Estonian identity did just fine for the past 350 years, despite being one state with Moscow or St Peresbourg.This is NOT about Estonian identity at all. That was NEVER under threat.
>>541032722I've seen plenty of Estonians abroad.They always choose russian-speaking guides instead of english-speaking. You won't fool us russian dog
>>541033159Good. The weak should fear the strong. Z and MAGA!
>>541032845> A mix of Finno-urgic, Baltic tribes and viking settlers up until 1200s> Teutonic clay until 1600s> Swedish clay until 1700> Russian clay until 1918> Independent until 1940> Soviet clay until 1990That's a rough outline. Estonia/Latvia are a mix of local peasants and german landowner class right up until 1940 when the mass purge/exodus of Baltic and Prussian Germans and Russians are flooded in en masse to replace the local population. It didn't work and now you have to go back. I'm sorry, but you just have to. Haha
>>541032722Everywhere in the EU, minority rights must be ensured. For exampe, there are 10k Italians living in Istria, their flags hang throughout the entire province, bilingual signs, there are schools, etc. Why don't you want to give that to the Russians? They let you go in peace in '91. Even better question: what outcome do you hope for one day when the Russians lose their nerve? There are 150 million of them and they have atomic bombs, you are a micro nation. And you are acting arrogantly. Well, they will literally wipe you out. It doesn't matter when, but at some point it will happen. You are drawing a target on your forehead for nothing.
>>541033142>Learning Estonian was NEVER an issue.Then why cry about it then? The official language of Estonia is estonian - you wanna live in Estonia, then learn fucking estonian. >but we lived here for generationsAnd in all that time you failed to educate your children on the language of your host nation. What, you think you deserve special treatment?
>>541033159>The exact same reason why ethnic germans were expelled from eastern Europe after 1945.Yeah, Germans lost a war, though.You might say that "Russians lost the Cold War", but the reality is that many people believe that cold war was on Communism, and many Russians actually SUPPORTED it. So, that felt a bit like betrayal, to know that Russians lost Cold War, while many were actually fighting FOR those independent states.
>>541033253>troll retard casually forgetting the opression and supression of estonian culture under almost every occupationIf you're gonna bait at least make it believable
>>541033309>The official language of Estonia is estonian - you wanna live in Estonia, then learn fucking estonian.Wait till you're gonna learn turkish and praise Allah
>>541033196Russian identity is alive and well 30km from where you live. You are the remnant of Russian colonial presence. This was oppression and trying to go back on that is not only normal but supported by UN charter. If Russian had been expelled like we were out of Africa, you wouldn't have to deal with these problems and now you want to impose your cultural identity to countries that were oppressed for decades by your own. The only reason why you complain is because someone in Russia with a political agenda told you it was unjust. It isn't. Sorry.
>>54103197125% of Estonia belongs to Russia.
>>541033309>Then why cry about it then?I'm talking about two-tiered society, about segregated schools, about different kind of passports for "real" estonians and for folks like be, despite both being citizens, about erasing Russian culture.It's NOT and never WAS about fucking Estonian language. Stalnukhin, the guy who was Russian but super PRO estonian language, publishing books and dictionaries and teaching Russians how to speak Estonian all the way BACK to Soviet times - he was effectively kick out of politics. Because they do NOT want "Russians who can speak Estonians", it's NOT about fucking langauge. They want "NO RUSSIANS", they would prefer person with ZERO estonian who's NOT Russian over a Russian with some Estonian. THAT is the fucking point
>>541032143why dont they do the progressive bs thats in the west saying left siders of the wing war are anti racists and if you wanna be a good guy you gotta be left wing
>>541033374Jeets probably believe this. If you jeetify a country enough it belongs to India.
>>541033291Istria wasn't colonized post WW2 to ensure control over the territory. It was already half italian when Italy got it. If anything, your current control over it is the result of protecting minority rights.
>>541033326>If you're gonna bait at least make it believablehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonian_Song_FestivalWhat are you talking about exactly, may I ask!? Education in Estonian continued THROUGHOUT, cultural stuff continued THROUGHOUT.I'm not saying there were NO issues at all, but definitely not even close to what's being done to Russians in Estonia TODAY!
>>541031971The rusnigger occupation of Estonia is saddening
>>541033470Italians were a minority there even during Mussolini's time, and our control now is the result of our victory in WW2. Estonia did not have to fight for independence, they got the state from Russia with the stroke of a pen, and they behave like arrogant idiots. It's amazing to me that they don't see that it's leading them to hell.
>>541032958the estonian position is similar to the canadian government's position. in canada we are taught that blood is eternal and you are born into ONE NATION and that is your land for eternity and any nation you move to will never be yours even after 5000 years. this is the basis of the aboriginal land claim ideology. so if canada found out that russians were being deported out of estonia they'd support it because russia belongs to russia and nobody else and estonia belongs to estonians and nobody else.
>>541033369>If Russian had been expelled like we were out of AfricaMany Russians in Estonia were voting FOR Estonias independence, a lot of them did, promises were made that all will get equal rights and citizenship.So, if you want to compare to "French in Africa", then it's more like expelling French from Belgium, or Germans from Switzerland. this is NOT remote colony, with is BORDERING state with a lot of overlapping, and historically overlapping identities and population. Ukraine is even BETTER example, but Estonian is the same!
>>541033157Lutherans are superior even under rusnigger occupation
>>541033075so are your minorities in france tools of their homelands to destroy france? probably true honestly.
>>541033514https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Estonian_sentimenthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification
>>541033142jews taught us that you can resist this for thousands of years by saying that attempting to annihilate your identity is racism.
>>541031971>giving their inferiors the gift of education and freedom from oppressionthey just be thanking them on bended knee
>>541033686Seriously?! is there "Druzhba Street" in Estonia? There was some "communisation of Estonia", there's "Soprus Street", but fuck sake - even the article you've posted, that's about Belarus, WTF?! and That "anti-estonian sentiment"? that's from which time...You are a retard who clearly has NO idea what he's talking about, doubt you've been to Estonia for any extended period of time.
>>541033824I don't need to be in Estonia to see that you're a tool for Russian nationalism and you're more than happy to oblige. My articles are also about Estonia, you can make a basic Ctrl+f. The anti Estonian sentiment is from 2007 and pretty much explain how we landed in current situation. The only reason you believe you are oppressed is because people in Russia believe the independence of Estonia is an accident that need to be corrected the same way they are correcting it in Ukraine. If your brain can't link these information, I can't help you.
>>541031971why shouldn't they learn language of they country they reside in? how is that any different from Mexicans hopping the border and refusing to speak English after 20 years of residing in America?>b-but they iz heckin basado russians and shieetthey carry AIDS statistics in whole country and drag down literacy rates. they aren't exactly paragons of virtue you are trying to portray them as.
>>541033159This. They regularly publish 1000 page reports where they cry about human rights, fascism and whatever: https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/reports/2116571/
>>541032197Why not just to move Estonians, they are causing the most troubles?
>>541031971Maybe im just retarded, but why do so many Europeans specifically hate Russia?I mean... with Ukraine, Belarus and Russia, aren't they all three just eastern slavs? I mean for poles... Swedes and Balts i can understand, especially the Baltic states but... isn't it weird?
>>541035108Because it's an ever expanding multicultural globalist empire.
>>541033075He's a vatnigger that lives in Thailand.Basically one of the people that fled the country so they wouldn't be drafted but is still RUSSIA NUMBA 1 and refuses to go back.
>>541035321That explains the people on its border well enough- but why do western Europeans feel that way too? Like, Finland has Bobrikov in its memory- but why the French?
>>541032143being such a patriotic russian, shouldn't you be in russia. or better yet on the frontline where you can achieve a russians highest goal in life: to get blow up by a FPV drone for the motherland and my gore folder
>>541035402by your reasoning the west coast states shouldn't have cared about 9/11.
>>541035499That's not really the same thing... given the west coast states, are part of the same nation as new york. Im not even saying i think its wrong- i just don't really get it is all.
>>541032495>Well, this is official position.Then how come I have several Russian coworkers working in Europe?
>>541031971They should actually open concentration camps for russians
>>541035568why isn't it the same thing? every state has it's own flag, it's own political system, it's own supreme court, ect.people care because the consider the other to a part of the "us" and if someone attacks one of "us" he then they feel attacked.nearly all Europeans consider other Europeans be part of the same "us". I'm friends with a Pole at work, I've friends in Funland and the Czech republic.why wouldn't I care?
>>541031971Heh, they should come here, because we don't do that in Germany.Even after living 40+ years in Germany, Turks don't speak German. Their first generation offspring also barely speaks. And if they do, they mix it with their own Turkish words and slang. Come to Germany, we love multiculturalism.
>>541035714Id say its specifically different between the united states and Europe, because the individual states aside occasional jokes etc, aren't- and dont genuinely function as independent countries with centuries- even millenia of independent culture and development. You guys at least have.. or should have the underlying fact of 'this EU thing is gay, so we're gonna go back to governing ourselves' And yeah you personally have a reason to feel that way- for the same reason I do to an extent care about Canada... like, ive got friends from Ontario, suffering the presence of jeets- or, me im suffering the presence of niggers and subhumans all over the place here. I'll even extend some genuine love for the wider Anglosphere for purely cultural reasons... love i simply wouldn't extend to Europe as a whole, you know?
Looks like historically, Russians didn't really belong in Estonia. Time to honor history.And it also looks like OP is lying about 25%. It's 20% now
>>541035714I just realized im basically just restating what you're saying essentially.
>>541033463Yes only jeets do that, Hitler was a Jeet for doing sudatenland.
>>541035402Napoleon attacked Russian Empire and lost
>>541035402You are very wrong if you think the French had any problem with Russian's before the invasion of Ukraine. Pro Russian stance was mainstream in the right and even some people to the left were seeing them as useful partners. It's really the invasion and all pro Russian forces in France looking like retards after week of saying it was propaganda and Russia would never invade that left room for Russian ""hate"" to rise. Russia burned the bridges with EU, not the opposite
>>541031971Estonia is EstoniaEstonia is not a colony of RussiaIf russians in Estonia are not happy they can go back to Russia where there is plenty of space for them
>>541035664whats the french grievance with russians?
>>541031971>is Estonia really forcing Russians, 25 % of population, to learn their disgusting mongoloid language ?NoSnowniggers could easily move to their motherlandOr thailand
Eponia was better when it was under Teutonic rule. Ow it's just a gay region of godless snowniggers like Latvia.