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But if you use it, you go to hell. Make it make sense!
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Don't use your freewill for butt sex. Simple as
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>>541033614
>free will means choices
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>>541033574
its man made. we know this, because its retarded, pre-history logic.

But if everyone stopped believing, America would be china. so I don't really care.
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>>541033574
>made jews
>made jeets
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free will isn't real. The electrical signals in your brain fire before you 'think' or 'do' whatever the fuck you intend to.
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>>541033677
what a disaster. he's such a fuck up
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>>541033574
He didn't give us free will.
Fucking snake did that.
Humans were just fucking, eating, and naming stuff. We were robots given a command. Fuck, eat, and name stuff.
Snake showed up an introduced a virus that the robots accepted because they weren't programmed to reject orders from other users but the admin.
Robots put on clothes.
Admin shows up and sees the robots wearing clothes which makes the less efficient at fucking, one of the three main protocols. Finds out malicious actors introduced a bug in the system.

My guess is that the robots were part of an assignment (universe) and it was too late to start from scratch, so a bunch of parameters were introduced to try and disguise the bugs. Project was turned in, graded, then just shoved in a garage full of junk.
The universe makes a lot of sense when you realize that not only is it a simulation, but a cram session produced simulation that would have barely earned a passing grade.
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>>541033574
intent is measured.
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>>541033574
Can someone explain why it was OK to create Adam and Eve in such a way that they failed to make the right choice, but it's not OK to create them in such a way that they wouldn't have failed?
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>>541033574
So if I use my free will and serve God I will go to hell, that's what you deranged and low-IQ atheist ape is trying to sell us?
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>>541034168
>OK to create them in such a way that they wouldn't have failed?
How would that be free will? Explain that logically.
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>>541033574
>Make it make sense!
Okay. There's nature consisting of all kinds of natural phenomena with little to no degree of agency just doing their thing as part of the whole like planets orbiting the sun and not just deciding to wander off into space and make a mess of themselves and the total order of things.

But somehow a part of nature became aware of itself and became aware of good and evil. That part decided to give God the middle finger and not fuck women in their pretty pink pussy and make beautiful aryan children.

Instead, this self-aware and aware of good and evil natural phenomenon, we will call henceforth OP, decided to fuck other men in the ass against better knowing so civilization collapsed and that's what we call hell for not listening to God.

Does it make sense now?
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>>541034168
Because he likes creating people that he knows will go to hell, one of the perks of being omniscient
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>>541033574
>Jesus died for our sins
Then I will sin to make sure his sacrifice does not go to waste
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>>541033650
Apathy is death. Thus, you are a zombie and of no consequence.
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Technically people don’t have freewill because special needs / retarded people exist
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>>541033574
Actions and consequences.
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>>541034247
How can creating them in such a way that they failed be free will? Why is one OK but the other one not? Is it free will only if they fail?
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>>541033574
If you become a bottom boy long enough, you will earn a place in heaven! :^)
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>>541034416
god is a liar
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>>541034438
They were not destined to fail.
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Christians : it’s for freewill
>God makes special Ed people
>Adam and Eve got tricked which is not freewill or they had freewill before eating the fruit

Christian’s : ummmmm all that matters is the relationship with God and getting to heaven, Hebrews 3-
>God favors others who don’t have freewill

Christians : STOP MAKING ME THINK >:(

K
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>>541034503
Lie about what?
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>>541033574
Free will was granted to us when eve bit the fruit of knowledge. Lucifer gave us free will. Otherwise everyone would just obey god.
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>>541034526
>got tricked which is not freewill
Surely you have a double-digit IQ, atheist animal.
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>>541034526
All that matter is Power. You, being, a weakling, has nothing to do with God.

God is not obliged to give you any Power
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Also
How can it not be OK to prevent Adam and Eve from eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, but it's OK to prevent them from eating from the tree of life? Was that not a violation of their free will?
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>>541034530
free will wasn't free. it comes with consequences. you just said it.
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>>541034563
>Christians : it’s for freewill
>God makes special Ed people
>Adam and Eve got tricked which is not freewill or they had freewill before eating the fruit

This is the part where you say all that matters is heaven and God now
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>>541033574
It's kind of like COVID
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>>541034590
As I said. Lie about what? God can see the future. Everything is already pre-destined.
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>surely you have double IQ atheist animal

Who said God was good or gave its name single IQ animal
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>>541034563
>Free will was granted to us when eve bit the fruit of knowledge. Lucifer gave us free will.
Bullshit. They eat from the fruit against the Will of God is clearly free Will. Satan tricked them to go against God and gain the ability to understand good and evil, but thus also the ability to sin. Something they and we are not capable of not doing, thus death etc in the world. Satan gave us nothing but death and decays.
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>>541034569
The fact that God had to manipulate them is very telling. They were entrapped. How can it be their fault that they were created with a flaw?
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>>541034621
dumbest christkike award winner
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>>541034598
What the fuck are you talking about relating to my post
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>>541034622
Nice reddit spacing faggot. Go back to /r/atheism, you are too stupid for basic logic.
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>>541033574

You have to choose to not be a dick
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Also if God gave me double IQ it means I don’t have freewill

Check

Fucking

Mate
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>>541033650
>if everyone stopped believing, America would be china.

Probably. Wish we could just settle on a rational western style Platonic metaphysic/Deism
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>>541034635
>God had to manipulate
What manipulation?
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>>541034631
Lucifer and Satan are not the same
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>>541034642
I'm the smartest being on this planet earth, and the chess champion of /pol/. I am destined to be a champion, you are all destined to lose to me.
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>>541034680
ok gook
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>>541034668
You idiot think that you don't have free will if your IQ is under 100? How did you make that deranged and false conclusion, atheist animal?
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>>541034658
My entire argument involves ethos pathos and logos. Ironic because the Bible is Reddit spaced

Check mate x 2
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>>541034705
My name is Michael.
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>>541034733
yes, the kid raping jew worshipper from Thailand
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>>541034675
How do you know? Show me.
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>>541034710
You’re kinda stupid


>>541034644
When Christian’s can’t accept that God made evil for no reason they go to freewill but retarded people exist so when that doesn’t work they go back to the reward of heaven and all that matters is God
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>>541034756
I'm a virgin, and I worship the Almighty God.
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>>541033574
>Gave you the free will to make this retarded fucking post
Congratulations faggot
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>>541034766
Well maybe if you the Bible you would know that. At no point does the Bible say that Lucifer or the opposer / Satan are the same character. Also in Genesis it’s the same with the serpent but there’s implications that they are the same as Satan considering later stories and Genesis hinting at Jesus Christ
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>>541034774
You worship yaweh. Only through the teachings of Jesus will you find actual salvation
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>>541034855
God Almighty is my salvation.
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>>541033574
>skydaddy makes you incapable of betrayal so there are no consequences or rewards, you just exist as an automaton
>SKYDADDY BAD REEEE!
>skydaddy makes you a free moral agent capable of Love or betrayal ; there are rewards or consequences
>SKYDADDY BAD REEEE!
Make it make sense.
>
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>>541034836
I didn't ask you and you only post low-IQ, irrational, incoherent atheist ape drivel.
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>>541034918
>>541034526
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>>541034925
You are stupid. He’s right.
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>>541034925
You’re actually mad I’m telling you the truth
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>>541034964
Then give me an answer to my question, faggot, and don't just hide behind his low-IQ drivel.
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>>541034946
English is not kind to you.
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Grim
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>>541035031
>English is not kind to you
>also green texted

Okay Satan
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>>541035016
I have no obligation to enlighten you, his answer is more than enough of a summary. I won’t spend the time on you.
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>>541035037
Only latently murderous pedos read Lost Children.
Burn that trash and find God.
Or burn in hell, your choice.
Next.
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>>541035072
>I have no obligation to enlighten you,
I never asked to be "enlightened" by an ignorant and unintelligent godless boomer like you. You made a factual claim with zero substantiation, and I asked you how you know that.
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>>541035143
classic rabbi levi jensen pilpul
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>>541034354
>Apathy is death. Thus, you are a zombie and of no consequence.
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>>541035159
Of course this thread was made Team Tel Aviv and their daily, deranged anti-Christian spam.
>rabbi levi jensen
What is it with you Jews and pathological lying? Why did you run away from my question to you? Give me your BEST and most "conclusive" evidence that I am Levi Jensen. Make me laugh, faggot. You stupid Jews larpling as atheists and pagancucks have spammed that lie for years now. In every thread I have been in. Do you have any idea how stupid and dishonest you guys look when you are doing that?
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>>541034855
Jesus claimed he was Yahweh. He said he was the one who spoke to Moses in the burning bush, and he said that heaven and earth would pass away before a single word of the Torah was taken out of effect

Trying to divorce Jesus from the OT is retarded
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Sodomite thread. Go back to Grindr, faggot.
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>>541033574
>God gives free will
Yes that’s right according to Genesis
>if you use it, you go to hell
Nope, not according to the Torah
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>>541034674
Indirect manipulation using the serpent as a tool.
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God is a nigger
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>>541034833
>Dies eaten by worms and never meets his god
Religion is cope for people who fear the truth
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>>541033574
If you use it wrong you disingenous faggot aka ACCOUNTABILITY.
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>>541033677
A plot with no evil opposition gets boring.
Why these two parasites havent gone extinct yet is beyond me.
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>>541036215
>If you use it wrong
Is it possible to use it right every time?
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>>541033574
She is a jealous 14 year old testing your love to her by catfishing you and telling you that you are free (you arent)
But remember she has no power over you or your soul unless you givr it to her by forming a covenant (baptism)
Gods gave no power unless we form covenants with them, this is why all gods offer a place to go to in return, "heaven" in case of the abrahamic godling
There is no hell, that was made up 400 years after the fact, only limbo which results in reincarnation, if you didnt bond with any of the gods (dont, its a scam)
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>>541036028
You don't understand the concept of manipulation. God does not control Satan. Without Satan you would be kvetching that they had no real choice as one strong power (God) dragged them in one direction with no opposing force (Satan), and that would be unfair, etc etc.
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>>541036440
>God does not control Satan.
He does, by creating him in a particular way Satan is being controlled. Satan could have been created in such a way that he wouldn't have rebelled, but God decided not to do that and instead created him in a way that he did rebel.
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>>541036440
>Without Satan you would be kvetching that they had no real choice as one strong power (God) dragged them in one direction with no opposing force (Satan), and that would be unfair, etc etc.
Would they suffer?
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>>541036096
>people who fear the truth
1. What truth do I "fear"?
2. What is your ethnicity?
3. What is your religious position?
4. If you are French and not a Jew, or a brown immigrant, what is going on in the pic, and what do you think of Freemasons and the Rothschilds?
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>>541033574
Just don't be evil. How hard can it be?
Can't even pretend to act like a human? That's your problem
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>>541036529
>>541036550
>He does, by creating him in a particular way Satan is being controlled.
Particular vs non-particular way makes him controlled? Makes zero logical sense
>Satan could have been created in such a way that he wouldn't have rebelled
Well THEN he would be controlled. You really don't understand this.
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>>541036215
Its bullshit if he hides the right answers in a religious book that's not even the most popular one
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>>541033574
Yaldabaoth
Hell doesn't exist, you just get recycled back here until you figure out how to escape
But you can't because muh heresy and blasphemy
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>>541036632
>Its bullshit
Oy vey not like that
> if he hides the right answers
Look and ye shall find, faggot!
>in a religious book
That's the manual, faggot!
Real life is the practice.
>that's not even the most popular one
Muh popularity, sheeple faggot!
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>>541033574
Creator creates beings
He wants the beings to choose Him
He doesnt want robots
Keep the ones that choose you
Throw the other ones away
Not difficult
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>>541037361
>He wants the beings to choose Him
So why make them feel bad if they choose him?
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>>541036631
>Well THEN he would be controlled.
Well, he was created in such a way that he rebeled, so he was still controlled.



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