>I CANT REFUELand they cant even complain about itwhat happened?
proofs?
>>541050650>and they cant even complain about itno russians in thread
>>541050650it's common knowledge that every oil refinery in russia was completely destroyed by getting hit with a single 5 kg drone (source: zelenskyiv)
>>541050552>it was real in my mind
there was a short period of retarded panic buying like with covid toilet paper but now its almost completely solved
Russia moved to the more advanced donkey cart technology, the lack of fuel just made them stronger.
If Russia has no fuel how are they exporting a million barrels/day?
>>541050552I can't refuel, either.>2,25€/L for E95 petrol
>>541050552What happens this winter when there’s no fuel from Russia or from the gulf? Asking for a friend
>>541050552Let's see Ukraine's fuel pumps.Oh wait
>>541052871No. There were shortages until they released the strategic reserve, which has now run out and there are now shortages again.
>>541053216>graph show how exports have collapsed>as you can see everything is fine
>>541050552>I CANT REFUELDont they make the fuel?I havent been following the war, did their wells go dry or get blowd up?
>>5410532161930s Russia exported the little cereal stock they had in the middle of a giant famine just to not lose face to the outside world.
>>541053529Ukraine took out their refineries. Russia the gas station is now importing fuel. (Nowhere near enough)
>>541053216>If I'm dying, how come I'm still breathing?
>>541053415Canada and the US make a fucking killing selling our oil globally :DLay the pipe and get drillin, boys. We set the price Muhahaha
>>541050552lol oil it's at 2.3€/L I know you kikes let goyim deal with the real life but come on, we deserve better shills.
>>541052749
>>541053583Oh shit. That..Thats fucking wild. Wasnt russia supplying most of the EU? Am I high? Was it natural gas and not oil/fuel?Doesnt that mean chinas pretty much cut off if irans fucked, pools closed, russias fucked??
>>541053692There's plenty oil. They just can't turn it into anything useful.
Mariverse seething over Odessa being shutdown
>>541053721Ahhh I gotchu. Thats still fucking nuts though.
>>541053692Russia is huge and has Siberian oil and gas deposits with pipelines going directly to China. Trump’s little fiasco in the Middle East has made Russia and China the de facto suppliers of crude oil to the Far East. Europe can suck it.
>>541053767Fucked around. Finding out.
>>541053793>and China the de facto suppliers of crude oilI was under the impression they imported like 90% of their oil? I thought that was the whole point of taking out iran, it was to start choking them off for whenever WW3 kicks off.
>>541054015Russia supplies about 18% of China's oil imports.
>>541054015Im a retard. I just got that you meant they resell russian oil to bypass sanctions and shit.
>>541054015They do import most of their oil, but they’re not really using much of it: they’re building dozens of nuclear plants and pushing cheap electric cars. They also have an overland supply route for that oil from Russia and a bunch of refinery capacity. Honestly they seem like the biggest winners from the whole Ukraine/Iran thing.
>>541053767It's a problem because oil extraction has to be running continuously. It is a nightmare to close a significant part of it then restarting, but you can't extract the usual gorillonz if the refining capacity doesn't follow. >Wasnt russia supplying most of the EU? Before 2022, a good part, mostly for Germany though. Since then oil imports are minimal by sanctions. >>541054015They are a big importer and they consume domestically their production, but they can short sanctions. India did the same until recently.
>government controlled russian newspaper>"another wave of a fuel crysis">/chug/ jeetoid>"there is no panic, it's all solved!"HAHAHAHA
>>541054279India is now taking russian oil, refining it and selling it back to them as gasoline for twice the commercial rate. Funny shit.
>>541053338Except the average salary in Finland is 4 times higher than the average Russian salary ya dumb shit. If we apply the Gini coefficient then it's even shittier.
>>541054195>They also have an overland supply route for that oil from Russia and a bunch of refinery capacity.I know they had that one super pipeline being built that was supposed to take until 2030 or something but they kicked that into overdrive. 100% they have tons of other ones but that new pipeline was supposed to be massive.>Honestly they seem like the biggest winners from the whole Ukraine/Iran thing.Yeah. Getting them to totally diversify their imports before WW3 seems like a bad idea. idk though, im just some dude but it seems like itd be easier to fuck a country over if they only have 3 or 4 main partners and you can take those out quickly as opposed to a billion smaller partners who equal out to the same amounts of shit traded/imported.>Russia supplies about 18% of China's oil imports.I would have assumed they would have been way higher just because they're touching. I guess thats probably a fucking insane amount of oil though.
>>541054388no. prices here are at least 3x the russian prices with all the taxes
>>541054523The new pipeline has been put on hold because China insist on Russia paying for it then providing oil at the same price russian refineries pay. (It's subsidised heavily)
>>541054523>I guess thats probably a fucking insane amount of oil thoughAbout 2 million barrels a day.
>>541054388Whatever, man. I still make 13€/h and have to live with the costs of everything here.
>>541054385>Ivans spend decades hyping their eurasiatism and their love of their fellow jeets>Putin is now getting jeetscammed at the first sign of weakness
>>541054279>Before 2022, a good part, mostly for Germany though. Since then oil imports are minimal by sanctions.Holy shit. Ive been pretty much ignoring everything russia/ukraine related. I member people were saying the EU was going to freeze and what not but I didnt even realize it was that long ago. Makes sense though, if everyone thinks the ruskies are going to keep pushing west it doesn't make sense to keep bankrolling them.>India is now taking russian oil, refining it and selling it back to them as gasoline for twice the commercial rate.>Funny shit.Fuckers. I wonder whose side theyd be on for WW3? I know they keep having boarder shoving matches with the chinks on that one road connecting china and india. The shit eaters will probably stay neutral lol
>>541054346>fuel crisis so massive that the only evidence of it is an indescript article in an indescript newspaper published on an indescript date
>>541054809
>>541054610Like some random faggot like you knows whats going on with negotiations Its a gas pipeline, not oil, shit for brains.Russia already has one gas pipeline to Shang Hai supplying 300 million homes. This is for a second pipeline
>>541053692US took over Venezuela and sells oil to the EU, now.China has lost 80% of its oil imports between Venezual, Hormuz, and Russia. They still have some strategic reserves but some time next year their economy will collapse. They're trying to just do solar panels or something, don't expect much from them for the next decade.
>>541054610>The new pipeline has been put on hold because China insist on Russia paying for it then providing oil at the same price russian refineries pay.HAHA! They yellow jew strikes again.When trump was first putting tariffs on canada, everyone was smugly saying we'll just switch and trade all our shit with china then they slapped a 100% tariff on a ton of our stuff. Fuck the bugs.
>>541054809They are now selling easier to refine fuel.
>>541054809Which is going well.
>>541054879
>>541054895>don't expect much from them for the next decade.I honestly thought that was the entire point of taking out iran, venezuala (also they were cunts) and tieing up russia in ukraine. I like russia and russanons always make me laugh but china was trying to act like a big dick so they needed to get a pp slap. Uppity bugs need the big US boot lolOne of the things I fucking HATE about being canadian is the seething hatred for the US and unbridled dicksucking when it comes to the chinks. Fuck china, china sucks. Theyre fucking gay and need to fuck off back to their hive and stay in their lane.
>>541054900>One faggot lies>Another faggot pretends its realCan you name this oil pipeline to China?;
>>541050552Price of fuel per liter in Russia 0.70-1 euro, price of fuel per liter in Finland more than 2 euro per liter
>>541055055Yes. A GAS pipeline. Not fucking oil. Its a huge complex dead (like all pipelines) of course there are issues. These deals have 1000 page contracts
>>541055169>Can you name this oil pipeline to China?No but heres a brave search for you. I heard about it when you raped iran. They were trying to build it super fast because you thunderfucked one of their main oil guys.https://search.brave.com/search?q=china+big+pipeline+to+russia+being+built&conversation=09769fbe44b10fed6deb2a8151acc113ba7e
>>541055055Also>sources say!Nobody knows what terms are being discussed except China and Russia and they havent disclosed the sticking points.
>>541055241Russia can't afford to build any pipeline's so it's a moot point.
>>541055336So you get caught being a retard who thinks oil goes through gas pipelines and you get mad?
>>541055348Here is what Russia thinks of you. Shill.
>>541054785By now oil and coal imports from Russia to the EU are essentially zero, and gas in sharp decline compared to 2022, only going through the Turkish pipes, with plan of total interruption by 2027. It took several years to secure other fossil sources and boost renewable energies but it's mostly done now. Planning depended on country, Germany was trailing to secure soruces but it's been largely done by 2025. I think France had already zero Russian oil imports in 2023. Some second world slav countries took longer. Turned out the EU didn't freeze (they would enjoy some freezing right now). China could absorb a lot of the demand as an alternative but there is so much even they could do, especially since their infrastructure was not made for it, Gulf petrol is of a higher quality (althoughrestricted for now with zionist intervention), and now Russia offers unrefined liquid rock.
>>541055380Another faggot mad becaused I exposed his retarded shit posting.Russia is currently building 13 nuclear reactors around the world. Pretty sure they can bolt piles together.So how did they complete the gas pipeline to Shang Hai in 2024?
> having gas prices THREE times higher than these inflated current prices in RussiaWhy don't you revolt and overthrow your government?
Bringing the thread back on topic.....The russians have no fuel. Because their refineries keep blowing up.
>>541055406>So you get caught being a retard who thinks oil goes through gas pipelines and you get mad??Why are you so upset lol Calm down, its all good. Its all going to be ok. I thought it was a mega oil pipeline but it could be gas. I honestly dont care that much. Holy.Im out of the loop on current events and based anons are filling me in. Feel free to join the conversation after you're done dilating and replaced your patch.
>>541055441>By now oil and coal imports from Russia to the EU are essentially zeroThe pipeline to Hungary and Slovokia is pumping at full speed faggot shill.You have donr nothing but lie the entire thread What exactly is your goal here?To look like a stupid faggot?
>>541055524We all get paid much more than poverty Russians. It's just not that big a deal.
>>541053216If you look closer at your graph, you will see that you're a fucking retard.
>>541055638
>>541055645> Much moreYeah, about twice more in England.
>>541055692He's not interested in the truth. Just throwing shade to confuse people. He spends all day, every day in /uhg/ shilling for Russia. He's a paid shill.
>>541055412Since you have done nothing but lie odds are you are the nafo troon shill
>>541055638You are one disingenuous faggot. As landlocked countries, Hungary and Slovokia got the authorisation to implement the European directives over an extended period (it's still being done, just slower, with max extensions of short contracts up to November 2027). I did not even bother mentioning them for how irrelevant they are in total European wealth and industry.
>>541055757No.
>>541055786Bore off you boring fucking bore
>>541052749but its ok to believe every american airbase is the ME was destroyed by the same drones.
>>541055441>By now oil and coal imports from Russia to the EU are essentially zero, and gas in sharp decline compared to 2022, only going through the Turkish pipes, with plan of total interruption by 2027That makes sense. Other than china, who does russia even sell oil/gas too now? I always assumed that was one of their main money makers.>Gulf petrol is of a higher qualityIt sucks but I guess thats one of the biggest problems with canadian oil. Its really shit quality and takes special plants to refine it into decent fuel. Only a few places in canada and the states can actually turn it into something useable. Its too bad the shitlibs got in with their green bullshit because we could have been supplying the EU (and the world) if we didnt fuck our oil industry and kneecap our shipping capabilities for like 20 years.Im pretty sure japan and europe would have been happy buying cheap canadian oil as opposed to russian oil. Canada could have been fucking awesome except we were total bullshit.. Im still mad lol
>>541050552Imagine losing to orcs with no gas?Pathetic
>>541055692So the graph doesnt say Russia is exporting a million barrels per day of refined products?Check your brain faggot shill
>>541055839> GrossAverage in Russia is over 130k now btw.
>>541055888The FP1 (Ukrainian) has a 120kg warhead. The shaheed/Geran (Iran/Russia) has 50kg.
>>541055956These flags should all be Russian flags lmao
>>541055835So you knew this and still chose to lie and say the EU gets no oil from Russia And you accuse me of disinfo
>>541053689>>541053583Not true in the slightest. A couple of close by refineries were damaged over the years, that's about it. The idea that Ukraine is deep striking all Russian major oil refineries is laughable. Russia has multiple layers of drone defense lines set up all around southern russia that's overwhelmingly efffective. For e.g. it was reported that the recent drone attack in Moscow was 1 drone out of over 1200 that made it thru. While mass drone attacks initially provided Ukraine an edge, these days they're not really the a threat at all and serve more for propaganda and demoralizing purposes than strategic.
>>541055839Fuck.. Canadas like the russia of the west.. Maybe thats why I like the ruskies so much. We have the same climate, same love of booze, same raped economies.. we're nearly the same, damnit! hahahExcept it took global sanctions to fuck russia and we just fucked ourselves. Grim.
>>541056030>FP1 (Ukrainian) has a 120kg warheadIf you don't have any fuel. For long range it's also about 59 kg.
>>541055997And razor blades are widely available and the chocolate ration has increased. Eh Winston?
>>5410561541984 was about England, Gaylord.
>>541050552>what happened?The Russian gas industry is centrally planned with state ownership of the means of production, price controls, and rationing, there are shortages whenever there is a spike in demand because it's impossible to engage in rational economic calculation without the price mechanism and private ownership of the means of production. While Ukrainian drone strikes can't be helping the situation, Russia experiences gas shortages pretty much every summer during the travel season. They then blame small private gas stations for hoarding and price gouging, which makes the problem worse instead of better, since hoarding and price gouging are really just prudent saving and raising prices to accurately reflect supply and demand respectively. Russia tried to become capitalist after the fall of the Soviet Union, but the Friedmanite Chicago school economists who they invited over to get help with becoming capitalist were pretty much commies themselves.
>>541056115>1 drone out of over 1200For long range drones like that, im assuming their closer to unguided rockets or something? You preload their targets and let them rip or is their a guy actually controlling it?I know on the front lines they have the ones with spools of fiber optic cables so they cant be hacked but how do the long range ones not get hacked?>1 out of 1200or is that what happened?
>>541056096>pre war EU oil imports: 27% Russian>mid 2026 EU oil improts: 2% RussianAlright it only decreased to 2% of all imports into the EU by mid 2026, instead of 0%, which will only be reached next year. I've been found out!
>>541056248> state ownershipAbout 70 percent for natural gas industries and 40 percent for liquid oil.
>>541056115Here is a map of all strikes on Russia. The furthest refinery hit was Omsk. About 2500km from Ukraine. All these strikes are HEAVILY documented with video evidence so you can fuck right off with your cope.
>>541055868Why are you a lying 23 post faggot?Why are you tracking my ip adress?Why do you accuse people who state plain facts of being shills?Only a sick faggot like you can spend 18 hours a day spreading kike propaganda with zero shame
>>541056381Bore off you boring fucking bore
>>541054878Looks like the Costco lines. People waiting for the SPR discounted gas.
>>541050552Complaining in Russia can ruin your life. The only pro-peace party got barred from the election, and they were under FSB control, even the controlled opposition is dangerous right now to the Kremlin.
>>541054878> 80 cents a literHow long would the lines be to such station on the EU?
>>541056630You are such a retard, honest.
>>541056654Now tell us how much it was before.
The russian shills are coming!
>>54105676670 cents.
>>541056332Eat shit faggot shill. Looks like 10% from this graph.Oh, and who buys the most Russian gas?You are one sick faggot
>>541056824> Posted hoholsBut the neds and chavs are exactly the same too.
I'm done here. It's pointless arguing with these cretins. They will just go on, and on and on... The oxcart of shit coupled with the firehose of falsehoods. Russia, the gas station with no gas. The superpower with no tanks, no APCS, no black sea fleet and no air defence....Coping and seething on a Mongolian basket weaving forum trying to convince a bunch of artists they are strong. Laughable people. They're worse than fucking jeets. Later losers.
>>541056841In 2024 it was 55c.
>>541056311>For long range drones like that, im assuming their closer to unguided rockets or something? You preload their targets and let them rip or is their a guy actually controlling it?In military terminology guidance doesn't just mean manual human guidance, an unguided rocket is one that just ignites the engine and follows whatever path Newton commands. Most long range drones, be they Russian or Ukrainian, are guided by GPS, inertial navigation systems, and things like that. They mostly do not have a human remote controlling them like the FPV drones on the front.>I know on the front lines they have the ones with spools of fiber optic cables so they cant be hackedIt isn't hacking they are worried about. All modern communications use encryption that cannot practically be decrypted, and in order to hack the control signal they'd first need to decrypt it to find out what it contains. The reason fiber optics are used is to prevent them from being jammed. Jamming can be thought of as overwhelming the control signal with much "louder" signals so the drone cannot "hear" the controller.>>541056340>About 70 percent for natural gas industries and 40 percent for liquid oil.I reread my post and realized I phrased what I said poorly. I am aware that the market is not completely state owned. The problem is that there is any state ownership at all. Even if the state just had stock in the companies this would distort the price mechanism and lead to inefficient use of resources. The greater degree of state ownership, the harder it becomes to engage in rational economic calculations.
>>541057025Well shit. Thanks for answering my questions.>>541056882Last time I checked up on the war, you guys fucking raped a ukranian soviet era bunker that they were using as a ammo dump(manufactory?) with a hypersonic missile. Have you guys unleashed anything else that wild like a crazy new type of drone?More recently I seen you guys were testing special helicopter cannon ammo to shoot drones down and it seemed to work really well.Hey, on the front lines are guys still using drones attached to fiber optics or has everyone moved on to something else?
>>541057025
>>541056851>Oh, and who buys the most Russian gas?I said oil, not gas, which is indeed around 10% as of now (it was 45% in 2021), and the planning for full stop has only been agreed last month (up to late 2027). I specifically mentioned this about gas in my previous posts. You can also see the full stop on coal (which was 50% of imports in 2021 and 0% today). >Looks like 10% from this graph.Ok it was simply a case of American education. You cannot read graphs let alone interpret data. Russian share of oil improts is pic related.
They import leftover diesel and gasoline through Belarus, Kazakhstan, India and China. /pol/ is not Reddit, don’t bring nafoid slop here, faggot.
>>541057268>They mostly do not have a human remote controlling them like the FPV drones on the front.Ahhh I gotchu. I was trying to search around but im pretty raped right now lol>It isn't hacking they are worried about>Jamming can be thought of as overwhelming the control signal with much "louder" signals so the drone cannot "hear" the controller.That makes sense then. Like you were saying, that sounds way easier than/actually possible instead of some type of remote take over whatever.
>>541050552Going back to ukranny status pidor xD
>>54105707555 roubles, at 80 rubles per dollar or something.
>>541057484So gas is not fuel?How are you going to bankrupt Russia when you are thier biggest gas buyer?You are faggot paid to spread a narrative
>>541050552There is no gas. I can't fill up my car.
>>541056654>126 and 122 roublesUpdate the bot's manual. It's 1.25 euros.
>>541057840I specifically split them from teh start, and the total and proportion of gas is also declining fast. Total imports of fuel form Russia has declined by >90% (in values, mixing coal, oil, gas) since the war started, with clear and short roadmap to 100% by the end of next year. You are pretending to act surprised it hasn't reached 100% yet.
>>541057025>29 postsyou mentally ill lame dogyou are done trulywhy did you stop posting images of chihuahas, what happened
>>541057346>Have you guys unleashed anything else that wild like a crazy new type of drone?The Russians have been using jet powered Gerans lately, which aren't that crazy but are a big step up in capabilities. It also implies that they can make jet engines in huge quantities pretty cheaply.>More recently I seen you guys were testing special helicopter cannon ammo to shoot drones downI read an interesting article a while back about Russian helicopters being linked up with the larger IADS and mounted with just absolute fuckloads of MANPADS. It's more expensive than firing the cannon, but it's cheaper than other kinds of missile and with IADS integration they can see everything the radars on the ground and on planes see, and the Verba MANPADS is able to receive data from the IADS. I remember seeing an article about how a Russian helicopter shot down an absolutely huge number of drones in a single night with that configuration. I can't find the article anymore because the website I read it on has an absolutely dogshit search function.>>541057564>that sounds way easier than/actually possible instead of some type of remote take over whatever.There are a few instances where drones were remotely forced to land, so it might have happened. Like the Iranians seem to have done it with an American drone like a decade ago, although given the incompetence the US military tends to display, that drone may not have even had standard consumer grade encryption running on its control signal. Another way they can be forced to land albeit less gently is to screw with their ability to figure out what their altitude is using electronic warfare systems. There might be other methods and specific side channel attacks for different kinds of drones too, so hacking isn't totally off the table, but it will only ever be a niche thing.
>>541054933Which is already destroying car engines lol
>>541055701>Didn't happen it's already fixed we never needed it
>541056381>Why are you tracking my ip adress?Schizophrenia is basically required to unironically support russia lol
>>541058697>Verba MANPADSIm trying to search this stuff up lol 9K333 Verba is what pops up and those specs sound fucking nuts.>It's more expensive than firing the cannon, but it's cheaper than other kinds of missileI always figured if it keeps your dudes from getting blown up then its worth the cost. Even thinking about it purely from a numbers perspective, 1 fully trained soldier has to be worth an insane amount of money, more than any missile outside a nuke or something crazy.>linked up with the larger IADSSee thats fucking wild. I bet radar's gotten fucking crazy these days trying to track tiny dollerstore drones.Is overwhelming radar pretty much the only way to bypass it these days (other than just turning it off like you guys did with venezuela) or is stuff getting so small and fast its getting hard to track?> There are a few instances where drones were remotely forced to land, so it might have happened.> Like the Iranians seem to have done it with an American drone like a decade agoI can totally understand with one of the big ones that just floats around for hours/days/whatever waiting to nuke a target or survey an area. I figured there was some crazy AI or whatever to hack those small drones too and thats why they switched to fiber optic but like I was saying, I havent really been following anything and ive gone full retard hahaFuck anon, thanks for updating me. Normally I ask dumb questions and just get called a gorillanigger haha
>>541059516>Im trying to search this stuff up lol 9K333 Verba is what pops up and those specs sound fucking nuts.If you're interested in Russian air defenses the best book on the topic is "Defending Putin's Empire, Russia's Air Defense System" by Mihajlo Mihajlovic. It goes into incredible detail on the topic while remaining accessible to the average reader.>I always figured if it keeps your dudes from getting blown up then its worth the cost.It's still important to economize, we live in a world of finite resources after all.>Is overwhelming radar pretty much the only way to bypass it these daysNo, there is jamming, stealth, finding gaps in radar coverage, outmaneuvering attempts to intercept after being detected, things like that.>I havent really been following anything and ive gone full retard hahaI stopped following the Russo-Ukraine war for a few years too, the NAFO retards were just so annoying it was frustrating to have any sort of conversation about the war at all. I think that's the point behind them.>Normally I ask dumb questions and just get called a gorillanigger hahaI ask dumb questions all the time. If you aren't certain it's a lot better to check in case the answer is different than you thought.
>>541060016>If you're interested in Russian air defensesI am.>"Defending Putin's Empire, Russia's Air Defense System" by Mihajlo Mihajlovic.Based. You're the fucking man, anon.>the NAFO retards were just so annoyingThey killed it for me too. I immediately leant russia because ukraine came up with fake and gay shit like the ghost and old men 360 no scoping russian jets out of the sky, then all the nafo fags acted like bitchy fags. At least the russian shills are funny, informative and chill. Like, I take everything with a grain of salt but I take russian shill reporting to be more accurate than western shit.Also, russias propagandas way more hilarious.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BeFDUpo5nI
>>541060375>Defending Putin's Empire, Russia's Air Defense System" by Mihajlo Mihajlovicbought the ebook from jewgle. Im going to tie into it now.You fucking rock, man!Thanks again
>>541053216Jesus fuck you are stupid, please emigrate to Ziggerville so we can raise American IQ average a million points
>still losing to russia that has "no" gas anymorekek
>>541060375>They killed it for me too. I immediately leant russia because ukraine came up with fake and gay shit like the ghost and old men 360 no scoping russian jets out of the sky, then all the nafo fags acted like bitchy fags.I was neutral, I liked Ukrainians for making STALKER and I liked Russians for all sorts of reasons (Tula ammo for instance). But I would get banned from /k/ just for talking about the war seriously or even trying to sound pro-Ukraine because they didn't even want people who were just pro-Ukraine, you had to be so fucking unhinged about it that you'd claim the Ukrainian MOD were Russian shills for only saying they killed every single living Russian, since the NAFO line was that Ukrainian supermen had killed every Russian, North Korean, and African who had ever lived twice over or something.>>541060749>bought the ebook from jewgleYou know libgen is a thing right?
>>541053415Europe will freeze to death this winter.
>>541060867Notvan arguement nafo troon.Can you read a graph tranny faggot shill?If Russia has no fuel how are they exporting 1 million barrels a day of it?Its a simply question
>>541055638stupid glavset shill; I hope you get mobilized, sent to the front, and greased by a 50 buck drone piloted by a chick with blue hair.
>>541055173>Russian and Finnish wages are the same
The problem is that once Russia collapses it will be bought up by China. Ideally this war stops as soon as possible, by Russia retreating and giving up all territory including Crimea, and then the west uniting and protect Ukraine AND Russia, from China. The only nations that win on this war is China and India.
