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Day 1,639 – Daily assessment: understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research

▶Latest
>Ufa refinery struck again
>Fedorov calls for wartime elections
>Russia Copies Ukraine's Brave1, Launches Military Marketplace “Roy.Market” for Drones and Defense Equipment
>Russia Spends $65,000 to Maintain a Soldier Ukraine Eliminates for $3,032 – Mission Control
>In June, the Ukrainian Defense Forces inflicted approximately $5 in losses on Russian forces for every $1 spent on striking targets.
>Successful strikes on "Kamensky Plant" in Rostov region. Produces solid rocket fuel and various missile systems.
>russia’s key bank dismissed its chief economist who predicted russia’s defeat "in a war of attrition"
>Ukrainian drones struck the Wildberries logistics hub in Koledino, Moscow region (their biggest remaining hub with ~250k m2)
>Smaller Wildberries logistics hub in Domodedovo also hit
>Ukraine hit the Kamensky Combinat in Kamensk-Shakhtinsky, Rostov
>Ukraine hit a railway bridge in the Svitlodolynskyi district of Zaporizhia
>Spanish NATO pilot shot down a drone that had illegally violated Romanian airspace (the fourth such incident in the country this year)
>Ukraine hits key Samara Roscosmos facility with Flamingo missiles
>Ukrainian forces struck Russia's Savasleyka military airbase
>Ukrainian Defense Forces destroyed Syvash bridge near Chonhar

▶Telegram
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▶Intel
t.me/DeepStateUA
t.me/DroneBomber
t.me/Exilenova_Plus
odin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG (equipment explorer)
ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)
▶Maps
deepstatemap.live/en
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▶russian confirmed KIA
hochuvernut.com
200.zona.media/
poteru.net/en/
▶An illustrative article for understanding the "kill zone" in Ukraine's front lines
reuters.com/graphics/UKRAINE-CRISIS/KILL-ZONE/znpnojmknvl/
▶/uhg/-approved vidya
deepstatemap.live/arcade/
▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik)
TOURS 1-4: files.catbox.moe/19avc9.zip
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TZD btw
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Zeleboba has been real quiet since this banger dropped.
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>a-ah... Gospodin foreigner-sama...
>we'd like to give you an offer for some benzin, under the counter...
>we need it lots and will come back soon after too
>you have enough to fill us both up, right?
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>>541053575
You know that any russian mascot, or creature would immediately offer it's ass , not the other way around.
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>>541053575
BUKHANKA-CHAN, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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>>541053685
He isn't going to go against the constitution.
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bensina nyet
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Hello. I just want to emphasize what the international Jewish conspiracy is doing.

I don't know about you guys but I wouldn't want to live in a multicultural gay sexless nigger-infested shithole where it's ultra nightmare difficulty to get to fuck women of your own race and you have to walk on eggshells all the time. Total Slav Death will continue until the objectives are met. These are that Ukraine will not be russified but it will be joined to Russia as an equal partner.

Zelensky, Klitchko, Gordon, Feygin all know this, just that a certain number of dumb Slav nigger animals need to die first.

If you want to be gay, go fuck off to Canada, Europe, the USA, etc.

If you honestly think there is no jewish conspiracy, well you are wrong and believe me, jews are 10 steps ahead of you
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>>541053685
What's his endgame? Why now?
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>natural cofi and instant drinks for vending status?
I love the smell of freshly roasted coffee in the morning
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>>541053766
precious daughteru holes are hoholes now, please understand
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>hallo, have you heard about DA JOOOOOOOOS
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Did you guys read the book 200 years together? Well we're not done yet.

Anyway, explain to me why I should care about dumb slav nigger animals.

If niggers in the congo have a tribal war, should I care? So should I care if slav white niggers butcher eachother?

I mean I'm a humanist and shieet.

I am just stating the facts
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What are they dying for ?
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>>541053783
She's looking for benzin, would you sponsor her?
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>>541054196
>Anyway, explain to me why I should care about dumb slav nigger animals.
Well you're in a thread about a slav war you fucking retarded faggot.
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>>541053731
Should be asanagi instead
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BRITISH DRONES ARE HAILING FIRE UPON MOSCOW WITHOUT DECLARING WAR BTW LOL YOU GUYS FUCKED UP
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>>541053575
>Refill, huh?
They do be like that
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>>541054196
Yeah, cool story. Now go make a thread asking for the political implications of X and fuck off to it.
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>>541054239
>What are they dying for ?
nuthing
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uh oh... nippon watch out!
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entire generation of russians are face down and dead upon the ground of ukraine lmao
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>>541054464
they'll never leave japan once they experience the toilets with water jets aimed at their bunghole
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>>541053575

the joke is that hohol pigs are losing to her
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>>541054398
I could refill her.
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>>541054464
I wish they'd fucking try. r*ssia would end overnight, crushed by the weight (and suffocated by the smell) of global weebs.
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>>541053685
Full support, the earlier Zeleboba and his kike crew get the boot the better for Ukraine
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>>541054464
>WHAT COULD BE WORSE THAN THIS FRONT?
>I KNOW, TWO FRONTS!
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>>541054777
knowing russian incompetence their navy would get sunk just 5 minutes after leaving vladivostok
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>>541054239
Femboy cock
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>>541054239
ridding the world of homophobia
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>>541054239
may he find in hell the feminine penis he died for
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>>541054242
your wish is gonna get the thread nuked
I take no responsibility for these lewds
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>>541053575

When will the uraine stop coping?
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>>541055566
meant for >>541054335
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>>541055637
>>541055282
>>541055140
>>541054974
>>541054464
>>541054239
>>541054126

Trannies,

I have always said that being associated with ukraine would bring us all great shame and ruin.

Look at what ukraine has done to us now:

>Operation Forrest Gump: Anti-corruption raid heaps pressure on Zelenskyy
https://www.politico.eu/article/volodymyr-zelenskyy-fires-top-aide-after-anti-corruption-investigators-search-office-iryna-mudra/

>The investigation, dubbed Operation Forrest Gump, alleges the group laundered around 150 million Ukrainian hryvnia, equivalent to roughly $3 million, through state-owned Sense Bank to fund bail for former Energy Minister German Galushchenko, a key figure in last year’s $100 million Midas corruption scandal.
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>>541054196
You clearly care given you just wrote an essay you unbelievable faggot
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>two million cubed cumrades: I sleep

>Alfa NTR: I seethe profusely

pidors should never have been given internet
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>>541055918

It was an anti corruption investigation called Forrest Gump.

Somehow you're the only retard left standing.
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just so pidaras can have a post about something and someone they can't give two shits about
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>>541056001
Nigger are you lost? This is UHG pointing out even Russia hates you!
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Yeah, we know, actually investigating corruption and dealing with it without having scapegoats suffer tragic window-related accidents is a foreign concept to pidors.
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>>541056046
Trusted monke this is the result
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Why are /uhg/k/rannies so fucking gay?
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gulagshills in terminal seethe mode
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>>541054239
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>>541056103
He is russian but you're still right
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>>541056186
>HIVille is trad because we don't call it gay because were retarded

K
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>Why are /uhg/k/rannies so fucking gay?
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>>541056253
jfc
he's gonna end up like him innhe
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>>541054958
Bold of you to assume their ships make it even out of the harbor.
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>>541056368
Aktually that's not gay cumrag you see when the earth was in its cooling phase

So bet you feel stupid now huh
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>>541056001
499
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>>541056394
>haha, wouldn't it be funny if...
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it's gonna be ZOVer all August isnt it
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>>541056519
>...yeah, I know, I've got this crazy idea, hear me out...
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>Gayroyem Slava!
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>/k/osher nazis
How does 'Kyiv' do it?
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>mfw faggotixo
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someone got off the clock and is eager to spout all the spite he hasn't the balls to give to his ogroid golem of a boss
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>/k/osher nazis
Make it make sense
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holy fucking shit a giant spider is attacking the contact lines near Orikhiv
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>>541054239
mythical banan
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>halal from ireland
Make it make sense
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>/k/osher nazis
What's their secret?
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>try to threaten an island nation
>when you have no functional navy
Baka ziggers desu
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>>541053575
TZD
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seethe more Zigzogs
that is how you prove you are not afraid and RushB will win
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Why is it always subhumans and freaks who support the coup-ocratic 'Kyiv'?
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>>541053685
what this faggot trying to do
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this is the european dream ursula was talking about
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>>541056253
>Operation Forrest Gump

how do you endure the shame of your existence?
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+++BREAKING NEWS+++
Russian ships are being fitted with an assortment of improvised defenses against kamikaze drone attacks, including tires, sandbags, wooden planks, metal braziers and protective netting.
>https://nitter.net/NOELreports/status/2090091865357918288#m
+++BREAKING NEWS+++
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>>541056906
odd looking fella but there's something compelling about him. he has charisma.
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>>541056889
Facts leftist the ukraine supporters cannot deny and never do:

1. Gulaghomo is not real, while globohomo is very real and ukraine supporters fight for it
2. The Ukraine fights for trannies and gays
3. Groomers support the ukraine
4. Hundreds of thousands more faggots support the ukraine
5. The ukraine is losing, after 4 years they are 25 percent occupied with nothing to show for it
6. The ukraine has NEVER given back to the west (killing white people doesnt count)
7. The ukraine has always been a criminal state
8. Putin’s mom is not Jewish
9. Putin is not Jewish
10. Etymology is not proof, for low iq brainlets, that means a name doesn’t equal ancestry
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>Facts leftist the ukraine supporters cannot deny and never do:
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>>541057050
>including tires, sandbags, wooden planks, metal braziers and protective netting

They certainly are getting a lot to protect themselves with.

What is ukraine getting to protect themselves?

The Rat King just said that he need 5% of our stuff just to survive the winter.
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>>541057084
you are BROWN
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>west is where usuring schemer folk are from!

chutzpah lie of the century lmao
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>>541056385
If someone has it he accidentally posted a picture of himself reflected on a wine bottle. Seems like he's a cripple living off gibs, too pathetic for even the russian army. Well, up until now, that is.
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>>541057132
>Zooms in on the buttplug
In the business we call this foreshadowing
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>>541053685
Anglokikes on suicide watch
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>>541057052
R8 this handsome brownoid
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>>541057327
>>541057553
awful memes, dank quotient practically a flat zero
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Oh, the 'new irish' nigger is here. How quaint.
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1/2

Russia and North Korea are fighting together to forge a "new world order," Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov declared in a congratulatory telegram to his North Korean counterpart, Choe Son-hui, marking the 81st anniversary of Korea's liberation from Japanese occupation.

"Today, Moscow and Pyongyang stand united as a single front advocating the creation of a new, fair world order, based on the principles of multipolarity, genuine equality, and consideration of national interests," Lavrov wrote in the message.

Drawing a historical parallel, the Russian top diplomat noted that the 1945 victory over imperial Japan by Soviet forces and Korean patriots established a "tradition of combat comradeship". This bond, he claimed, is currently being demonstrated in a joint military operation to expel the "Armed Forces of Ukraine and foreign mercenaries" from Russia's Kursk region.

Lavrov’s remarks contextualize a rapidly expanding military and economic alliance between the two heavily sanctioned states. According to recent South Korean military intelligence assessments, Pyongyang has supplied the Russian military with over 12 million artillery shells and deployed approximately 13,000 troops to the Kursk region, where they have suffered an estimated 2,300 casualties. Furthermore, Bloomberg Economics estimates that North Korea has earned over $14 billion from military assistance to Russia since 2022, including nearly $850 million specifically from the deployment of its soldiers.

Ukrainian authorities have warned of further tactical escalations, citing intelligence that North Korea plans to station an additional 30,000 to 50,000 troops in Russia, alongside the deployment of a missile unit—comprising six launchers and roughly 120 missiles—to the Voronezh region.
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>>541057629
delet this you fucking angLoKikE11111
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>>541057678
2/2

Despite international condemnation, Lavrov stressed that Moscow will relentlessly pursue the path set by Presidents Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un for a "comprehensive deepening of Russian-Korean cooperation". He asserted that this alliance "serves the benefit of our peoples" and bolsters regional and international security.
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>>541053592
SAUSE
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>>541057678
south koreans are giant faggots for not reacting to any of this
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>>541057629
The cocaine jew is getting ack'd and that's a good thing
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Why can't GayTO defend its favourite money launderer?
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>>541053685
>Ukraine does elections
>Budanov wins
>Industrialized TZD
>Spiderweb tier shenanigans every other weekend
Lol where do ziggas got the idea that if Ukraine does elections the president would ve more pro-russia?
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>>541057810
another one of those extreme schizo countries like Greeks, Turks, Americans, and us perfidious fork tongued lying old krautnoids
neutrooling, due to comfort addiction regarding politics and history, still works splendidly
at least it doesn't work on /pol/ quite so well anymore
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what will be the shill cope if rcwg?
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>>541057993
pidor and thirdworldist agitprop are insisting Ukrainians are begging to surrender to the moscow and receive Hitler-vs-Austria-style Anschluss. they always operated like this. incorporated Ukraine into their faggot USSR even though nobody resisted Lenin more than Ukrainians. they imagine they will somehow just win, at whatever horrendous cost that may be, and then pretend their twisted version of history has always the correct one, written by the victor etc. no Ukrainian would be alive to contradict them in this scenario.
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>>541055862
uhh...
pls give context anon or I will shit bricks
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>>541058006
I feel like seeing their northern neighbor getting stronger thanks to this new alliance should set off some alarm bells in Seoul especially now with trump acting like a retard. The most obvious thing would be to counteract it with sending military aid to Ukraine and bleed nork soldiers this way but so far seems they just dont give a fuck.
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>>541058029
I wonder will the Indians accept the rupees back for the gasoline?
>No sar, please be redeeming the rubles for the benzin bloody bitch benchod
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>>541058331
worst Korea is suicidal nihilism on a national scale, anon. apathetic individualism as a constant and absolute.
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>>541058029
Surely they can pay for the gasoline with their hoard of unconverted rupees? It'd be pretty cunning if jeets refused to redeem (lol) their own currency just to backstab/scam extra hard.
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>>541058402
Feminism gone mad. Their men have given up.
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>>541058438
There's no way they'll take rupee back.
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>>541058402
yeah, that seems to be the case.
Koreans made the worst version of communism and capitalism at the same time lmao, I'm starting to understand why Japanese despised them so much.
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>>541058331
south korean are bugmen, you can't expect anything from those drones
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>>541058029
Good morning Sir russian customer, may you have a wonderful day!
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What are they thinking right now?
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>>541058608
>What are they thinking right now?
What's starmer doing here? He's not even PM.
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What are they thinking right now?
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>>541058660
>starmer
But what is he thinking right now?
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draft soon
you too might become a katsap kebap
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>>541058855
he died for our spins
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>>541053575
TzD
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>>541058855
Damn I want a nice döner now
Invented merely just in the late 1800s yet unbeaten for that time
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also kill ziggers
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>>541058855
Ketchup katsap kebab
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>>541059216
man deserves all the luxury in the world for getting a million ziggers killed
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TZD
Another day, another multi-billion dollar target in the russia going up in flames.
Imagine being a pathetic russnigger brownoid supporter and coming here just to get intellectually raped by the fact its day 1639 of their 3 day SMO and the russia is losing.
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>>541059277
>scam me harder daddy
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>>541054458
Banan
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>>541059248
>Ketchup
a crime against culinarity
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>>541059424
what really? It's the sauce that makes the crime?
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>>541059216
here in poland nobody is laughing
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>>541059248
I swear I had this one in my head and just never slopped it
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>>541058744
1. Banan
2. Nook
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>>541059424
>>Ketchup
Leave it alone and eat your bland ass mustard Hanz
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>>541059521
Nah, just a thing among food snobs which I am decidedly not one of
In fact I am such a manchild I utterly hate cooking
It's just a common joke that eating <food> with ketchup is "low brow, low class, unappreciative and in poor taste" and I play on it.
A little like the notion that Italians get upset about pineapple pizza.
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>>541059424
when I was in the army we made spaghetti with ramen noodles, ketchup and cut hot dogs. thats a real crime against culinarity.
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>>541059385
where is the scam? We are getting exactly what we paid for and that's TZD
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>>541059648
And they say Germans have no humor and are incapable of picking up on jokes.
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>>541058608
league of extraordinary failulures failures
>z-zigger
not really, just realist. Starmer is out, Macron is pretty good at international diplomacy but he is deeply unpopular in france, also he is french so is automatically an ass. Merz is unpopular in germany and he has problems with passing necessary reforms. Tusk is... alright i guess but he is so fucking hated by both left and right that his presence alone gives advantage to other parties. There are elections next year in poland and you can bet right wing nut jobs will win just by constantly shouting 'TUSK IS LE TRAITOR AND GERMAN AND RUSSIAN ASSET".
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>>541053575
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>>541059424
>>541059648
why must we argue
this is worse than sportsball teams vs
just put every condiment on the menu
since preferences change, everyone has all of them
the important thing is that not even the finest sauce in the world can cheer up a zigger from what's to come
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>>541059673
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>>541059717
It's such a mind-numbing insanity to see how much the US spends on military (and how Americans are made to suffer for it - though not even nearly as bad as the rest of the world) but due to financialization, oligarchization and capitalistic rent-seeking this is what comes of it.
Reminds me of that bid where lockmart was afaid Ukies would produce missiles faster, cheaper and more efficiently and thus opposed licensing.
And no, tech transfer, IP management and limitations have never been a problem for decades of varying scales of coproduction.
It's literally all the child-raping, mudering, thieving, anti-human unisegment
Fuck man, america could be a legitimate world leader and have done so much for humanity since the 70s had they not become subsumed by capital, the entire world and America itself would be better for it
Instead we got dementia ridden c-tier actors and/or sociopaths/psychopaths/narcissists burning the whole thing down in a mere generation and a half

>>541059881
I was just joking

>>541059928
I think the next time I eat pizza I will actually specifically try out pineapple pizza because if I am being honest I NEVER EVER even tried it
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>>541054126
Lmao, it's hard to imagine the reaction of the zigroids to this video.
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>>541059385
Rack of honol?
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>>541060053
Speaking of food related stuff, yesterday I drank the first glass of the first batch of wine I ever produced, and it tastes heavenly.
This year I'll produce very little, probably a dozen liters or so because I don't have the equipment... but next year I'm starting my own cave
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>>541060053
It's wild how you complain about all this, but then you turn around and vehemently support our war in Ukraine.
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>>541060053
so am I, just shitposting waiting for arrows
TZD and good eats
you should cook more though anon, your guts will thank you in later years
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>>541060246
like /ourscholz/ here
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is wildberries bankrupt yet?
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>>541060411
you are neither white nor american and cannot prove otherwise
deflect or ignore if you're jewish, indian or russian
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>>541054464
>we want a second battle of tsushima.
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>>541060529
It's begging monke for a bail out.
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>>541057993
The fact that the current pro western government had to be brought to power by a western backed coup?
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>>541060318
excellent anon
I used to have access to an apple garden, I miss those trees so much. They were young and made very sour apples, but the cider came out just right, balanced out between sweet and tart.
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>>541060318
>Speaking of food related stuff, yesterday I drank the first glass of the first batch of wine I ever produced, and it tastes heavenly.
This anon is out here to prove the stereotypes lol
Congrats, it is nice to hear you are having success in your pursuits
I have no much to show save for getting obsessed with a piece of scrap aluminum that I now want to sand into a cube as close to perfection as possible within reasonable limits and manual methods that I can be bothered to noncommittally try out

>>541060411
You aren't even the same anon so my interest in what you have to say about what I told him in the context of him being someone that actually went into that institution is limited
There is obviously a difference between for once actually supporting a democracy under siege by an actor that is genuinely worse and hostile in pretty much every axis of political, philosophical, economic, ethical and societal reasoning (rather than toppling a government and enstating some shitass tyrant or tyranny that will make the world worse)
These two things can be true at once

That the US MIC is a terribly, amoral, rent-seeking, oligarchic, inefficient, wasteful and deleterious thing on the whole as it stands today and for the past... 80 years?
That it is good that the US MIC is helping Ukraine
Besides, it's not like I don't have the same reservations and hate about these things here, so don't make the mistake of taking this as some sort of smug condescension, I am aware enough to know that there is fundamentally not much difference between where America is now and where Germany and other Euro countries are headed due to the inherent perversions, abuses and internal contradictions of capitalism/oligarchy.
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>>541060670
>The fact that the current pro western government had to be brought to power by a western backed coup?
Ahhhh, so it's them just coping like after maidan. Got it.
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>>541060670
extreme cope
Ukraine merely did what every illiberal democracy and/or dictatorship will do eventually
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>the fact that (insert zigger lie).
brown
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>>541059824
In awe at the size of this lad
Absolute yoonit
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>>541060318
>Speaking of food related stuff, yesterday I drank the first glass of the first batch of wine I ever produced, and it tastes heavenly.
And I made 3 liters of kvass, using substitute yeast, because proper ones all died of old age.
It tasted... okay.
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Because of you hohols I don't have any benzin.
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>>541060883
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>>541060529
It won't go bankrupt. They will spread the loss out so the average pidor eats the loss whilst the garch stays alive.
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>>541060780
>That it is good that the US MIC is helping Ukraine
The US mic is the entire reason why Ukraine needs "help". If we had stayed the fuck out of Eastern Europe like we had told the Russians we would, Ukraine would be a peaceful country today instead of a war torn one with a dwindling population and a bleak future.
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>>541060735
I tried cider last year, but my guest were NOT ready for the assault on tastebuds that is traditional cider. I'm still be making cider vinegar for cooking and rust cleaning. I'm kinda accustomed to it now
>>541060864
Speaking of yeast, I had that conversation with my neighbor, who does also make wine. He was like, "You're using yeast? Why ?"
I'm kind of a noob so I felt a little dumb, so this year it's just grapes and natural, uncontrolled fermentation
>>541060780
It's a little success lmao, but free wine is always good to have. I'll drink a bottle with uhg when the war is won
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>>541060883
The dear leader and the glorious plans for the nation cannot be achieved without sacrifice!
Commit your body, mind and soul to putin-juche and ride a bicycle!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfUc1J_0I8w
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>>541060053
yeah this is something that i think about a lot and i struggle to answer for myself. I have faith that it will get better because americans aren't the stereotypes we all know and love. we always rise to the occasion no matter how indecisive and two faced we may seem.
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>>541061098
>If we had stayed the fuck out of Eastern Europe like we had told the Russian
get new material
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>>541061098
The reason Ukraine is being attacked is due to the nature of the kremlin regime
But I see you've just subscribed to great power politics ideology and "offensive """realism""" " (that often makes the wrong predictions and for the wrong reasons as well) so really there's not much I can tell you.
Only thing that would have helped would have been for Ukraine to retain nukes
Therein I agree with mearschlomo but that was when his careerism still had more synchronicity with the pursuit of truthfulness about 30 years ago before the terminal descent into blatant grifterdom in these matters related to the post-soviet space.
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>>541060788
>>541060821
What the fuck are you fucking retards even talking about? It’s genuinely like I just got two misplaced replies in a row.
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>>541061098
shalom >>541060547
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>>541061167
The dutch in this is aweful
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>>541060883
You know, if you want hohols to stop bombing your shit there's a very easy solution.
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>>541054906
celebration status in poland? Here in kyiv nobody is celebrating...
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>>541061307
>The reason Ukraine is being attacked is due to the nature of the kremlin regime
You'll notice though that Belarus isn't being attacked. Why is that?
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>541061379
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>>541061181
I dunno man, I just see the parallels to pre-ww1 Europe across the entire world at this point.
Individual valor, values or decisions - yes even the values, hopes, fears and ambitions of entire nations of people are subordinate to the incentive structures that govern them.
Though there is still value in having competent people in various (ultimately non-decisive) positions of nominal power that are able to accurately dispense blame and comment on the collapse/decline.
Some might just endlessly blame jews/niggers/migration/globalization but there are far more compelling explanations and it's important for them to not fall by the wayside no matter how bad things get in the next decades as millions of people die due to increasing post-Holocene climate volatility.
It really was nearly always the material conditions for the big societal problems we've been facing and creating.
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>>541061385
Gezicht?
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>>541056817
Why did you save the cucked version with the russian emoji censoring the swastika? Are the ziggers this afraid of the symbol?
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>>541061596
terrified, like in the old days
big shame it doesn't get to be anywhere
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>>541061385
I still love it though
Guess I'm just a stupid American tourist to your culture but that silly cartoon along with a few other cultural inputs and certain other factors just made me appreciate the Netherlands and put it on my radar

>>541061475
>You'll notice though that Belarus isn't being attacked. Why is that?
Because Belarus has already been subsumed and subordinated to the kremlin regime with very limited sovereignty and individual political agency as actual Belarussians have experienced and varyingly support in a bid of the collaborationist/comfy go-with-the-flow complicity or absolutely abhor because they see how much it limits Belarus to be Belarus
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>>541061475
>why isnt russia attacking its puppet state?
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>>541057629
I remember this greek commie new jersey devils fan that used to shit up /hoc/ a lot. At some point he moved to Ireland. Reckon it's the same guy?
>pic related
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>>541061475
Putin helps Lukashenko keep his despotate in return for subservience
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>>541061596
>politics is weird
Actually it isn't, there's a lot of ideological overlap and synchronicity between nazism and zionism, both genocidal and anti-human ideologies
And just like the nazis their retarded israeli half-brother descendants will also launch into irrational and deleterious wars of aggression and destroy themselves like sub-humanized fascist statues usually simply tend to do
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>>541061743
>Because Belarus has already been subsumed and subordinated to the kremlin regime with very limited sovereignty
Sovereignty is when you let Washington dictate your foreign policy I guess.

Ask any Belarusian whether they'd rather live in Ukraine. Do you think they really envy hohols? Why should they? They live in a 99%+ white, high trust country with a cheap cost of living and no jewish influence.
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Ukraine is getting bombed tonight thoughts?
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>>541058402
>>541058524
are you fucking shitting here? They are one of the more nationalistic types with MANDATORY military service going into three years, with no exceptions, for all males. As soon as the flag is waved and national hymn is played they are all up in arms ready to fuck some kim jong fat malnourished slaves up. I have only seen chinks display similar foam whenever the CCP whips them up with shit like hating on nippons

you seem to be confusing them with something like germany and japan that are so absolutely mind broken from losing ww2 that mass adopted the hippy/le both sider/neutrooler faggotry

As for current korean government they just came from the last president trying to establish itself as another poor mans park chung lee (dictator "president"). Unfortunately he was also the pro ukraine one so of course in typical political contrarianism they do everything the opposite
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>>541053772
Ah yes the sacred 20 year old constitution.
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>>541061916
Ukraine got bombed this afternoon, at night I went to the brothel.
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>>541061475
When was the last time Belarus exercised sovereignty? It's a de facto vassal state atp.
>>541061853
>politics is weird
I collect this type of picture. I wouldn't dwell on it much. Both guys are in it for the aesthetics and culture, not the ideology. Just like how neonazi skinheads are more of a cultural phenomenon than anything ideological.
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>>541061831
Anon, nobody in Belarus would rather live anywhere else. Why would they, exactly?
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>>541061891
Way to completely sidestep the points I made about your smarmy "Belarus isn't being attacked" slogan and what "not being attacked" actually means in terms of the Kremlin regimes actions with these people of the country that are therein turned into subjects and stripped of political and societal agency
I've said what I wanted to say and since you clearly are too caught up in your algorithmic reactions or just not arguing in good faith I see no reason for us to continue the exchange, our positions have been sufficiently displayed
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>>541060053
are these mustache twirling oligarchs in the room with us now?
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>>541062045
>nobody in Belarus would rather live anywhere else
true my uncle works at belarus and he said youre right
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>>541061929
they are absolutely neutrool, unwilling to lose an iota of convenience to help Ukraine, it's nice that they love their country when it counts but indifference makes you the mindbroken fag, shrimple
>hurr you lost WW2
everybody lost, in fact we all still are losing
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>>541062045
>nobody in Belarus would rather live anywhere else [sic]
There is 100-200k in Poland right now. A quarter million lives in Ukraine. There is a lot of the country that left.
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>>541061998
>I collect this type of picture.
Understandeable, I had it saved too
Happy hannukah, a threefold siegheil and may glory ever be for HOG and death for israel!
>I wouldn't dwell on it much. Both guys are in it for the aesthetics and culture, not the ideology.
I caution against this assumption, it's not only a joke.
>Just like how neonazi skinheads are more of a cultural phenomenon than anything ideological.
Even insofar as that is true there is still an ideological belief system in spite of any (merited) claims that can be made about the lack of political coherency of these people
There is politics in there and it is a worldview that is supported by various political factions and political/economic actors for reasons other than whatever usually synkretic and internall contradictory beliefs that these people pick up on and internalize
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>>541062255
more like 0.5 to 0.8 million
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>>541062045
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/MoLgS%2BSS7H4zOKMEPENBdQ%3D%3D/page/1/
this zigger has been trying to shill here for over a year.
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>>541053575

When will the pigkraine stop losing?
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>>541062045
>Anon, nobody in Belarus would rather live anywhere else. Why would they, exactly?
An amazingly brown comment. How about you go over to your fridge and take a picture of the milk you have in there and then post?
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>>541062476
Azov is super. Super! The Russian army is an embarrassment, they shit their pants each time they hear Azov.
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>541054196
>explain to me why I should care about dumb slav nigger animals
Idk why you're so triggered about Russians dying that you have to seek out threads about it to seethe and cope over.
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>>541060481
Lmao, they're on a scale a thousand times greater.
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bensina nyet

>>541062687
harrowing
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>>541062687
in awe at the size of that thing
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kill zigglings btw
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>>541062875
They do be like this
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>>541061596
Neva it was the only one I had access to. Thanks for the non-gay copy.
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>>541062875
Observe the war, Romanian rat, and get ready to get bussified the same exact way that Ukrainians get it.
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chink post
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>>541062775
>hey NATO
>*shits himself*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfEqxp6tC-w
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>>541062045
>everyone in belarus would rather be a slave than live in the decandent west
peak soviet thinking. post milk and fuel gauge now, joe burger from minnesota oblast.
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>>541053575
The head of the German company Donaustahl, which supplies UAVs to Ukraine, has been living under increased security since the end of last year and is constantly changing his place of residence due to the risk of poisoning with "Novichok" — BILD
• Stefan Tumann learned about a possible attempt on his life from German special services in December 2025.
• The publication reports that it all started with the surveillance of the entrepreneur by "disposable" recruited agents - they were later detained by the police. Later, the motives for this surveillance were already established and, based on the desire to use "Novichok", who is behind it.
• 39-year-old Tumann has already made a will, issued an application for organ donation and an order in case of serious injury or death. However, Stefan does not give up and says himself that he is "fighting a duel with Russian military intelligence for his life".
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>>541063522
>oligarch's face when it's time to replace the pyptin
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let's be honest though: NATO is no longer credible
and most terribly of all our politicians will still continue acting as if it is and still continue to be subservient to America in a way that is no longer in any way rational or sustainable in the arguably long-collapsed post 1989 world order
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp0Mu62wRkY
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>>541062875
When a Zigger is doubtful on their K/D ratio, show them this.
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>>541063560
Prove Russia has no milk first.
Stupidest nafo troon scripted reply ever
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>>541063562
>BILD
immediate doubt
Though I would believe something like this to be happening in general, best of luck and success to Stefan unless he supports israel in which case, whatever
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>>541063715
why are you still pretending you don't understand what a brand is?
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Somewhere in Russia a low ranking fsb agent has been tasked with procuring a jug of American milk......
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>>541063715
499
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>>541063722
>israel
Inb4, it’s not all that simple these days. Picrel.
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>>541063715
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>>541063860
And a picture of a white hand
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>>541063603
lel
>pypa, results!
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>>541063645
Wow, after reading this post I realized I must turn my back to the west and support the based& trad Russians from now on!
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>>541063562
I would unironically go live in Lviv, I don't think there are better counter espionage against pidors than the Ukrainian secret services.
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>>541063715
>zigger outs himself
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how will lying pidors cope when Ukraine still exists and bombs the pidoria for nearly every day of 2027 with increasing accuracy and devastation?
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>>541063880
nah, it really is that simple
you see it in america too
private capital has accumulated so much wealth, power and influence it will outstrip any strategic rationality to not be buying and cooperating with the terror rape state of israel
also probably some blackmailed pedophile subhuman in power in germany as well - at this point this way of thinking isn't even outlandish anymore since it's been proven to be literally true and a very influential part of the structures that are causing the most significant wars we see today
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>>541059385
>Vladimir Zelensky
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>>541063922
>I would unironically go live in Lviv
no you wouldn't lmao
piggers are squatting there in what essentially are Polish buildings
and piggers do nothing w.r.t. maintenance, upkeep, tidying etc so it looks like shit and dilapidated
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>>541063645
When russia is destroyed, Europe will be able throw America away like the used up condom it is
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>looks like shit and dilapidated
btw just like anything else in the shitkraine. any money for maintenance is stolen

t. knower
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>>541063562
Is handing novichok to rando junkies a good idea? I suppose it doesn't matter, it's not your country so let it loose for all they care. Sloppy though.
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>>541063917
That's not what I'm getting at, fuck the kremling too and especially
The problem is that we're in delulu-land, politically and strategically
This inference doesn't even require me to be some sort of campist asswipe that supports <other side> due to evil things that <this side> did (whether imagined, falsely attributed, misrepresented or absolutely true)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TmmhwQs10s
Vexler is a liberal (in my limited perception and capacity to even make this kind of assessment) and I am not but he is cooking with many of the things he says and the way he views and analyzes things in my view.

Challenge your kneejerk reaction and really do watch this video essay, I really recommend it
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>>541064200
It can not, it will not and it also should not because America is more than that and can be more than that.
We must not give up on fighting for a better future.
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>>541063879
Why are you tracking my ip adress?
I really fuck up you organized shill campain dont I?
By the way folks, 498 refers to me exposing the video of a Russian frigate burning as an AI fake.
To deflect from being caught posting an obvious fake video all the nafo troons harped on the hull number I got wrong.

Completely ignoring the fact I caught 4 faggots swearing an AI video was real.
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kek its the jeet with the burger flag again
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>>541063645
Speak for yourself bitch boy I'm ready to stack bodies
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it's amazing how flipped on its head the danetroon's perception is
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>>541063893
And will then get broomed for inevitably fucking up
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Thats how sick these faggots shilling for Zelensky are. To them its hilarious they got caught posting fake videos to pretend ukraine is winning.
Like how faggots walk around pretending to be woman.
They have a ball here watching people die and jerking off to gore.
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>suckdeep of colcatta outs himself again
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>>541064315
You done goofed
Your IP has been backtraced it and your informations have been sent to the cyberpolice
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>>541064376
I will fight and live or die too if push comes to shove and if it gets to that point I will likely be forced to anyways.
The thing is that we are dysfunctional - we are the soviets now, there is a similar kind of palpable illegitimacy and stagnation spreading that had swept through the SU back then.
Now of course we are still completely different and the systems here are completely different but still there are massive structural issues in our societies that we are getting worse at rather than better at addressing.
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>They have a ball here watching people die and jerking off to gore.
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>>541064238
Let's be honest though: you're a disingenous faggot NEUTROOOLER. This is /uhg/, not the 'lets discuss the history of NATO since Earth's cooling period 4 billion years ago' thread.
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>>541064552
And here is the other nafo troon from thier discord channel.
How could he possibly know it was me from my one post.

You know exactly who destroys your retarded faggot narratives here. Me
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>>541064045
kek
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>>541064665
Life will never be the same
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notice how his english always slips when he gets angry?
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>>541064730
too obvious, not like the gualgshills of yore who fertilized the potato fields of bygone seasons
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>>541064730
Many such cases, sir.
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>>541064562
It's nowhere near as bad as the Soviet union. The problem is gutless career politicians who are incapable of making decisions after being left to their own devices and a population that has had nationalism bred out of them for the majority of the past century.
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>>541064620
No, I am not and I have not.
Fuck the kremlin regime, I have donated a significant amount of money to lethal and non-lethal Ukrainian aid even individually of my own active choice.
It is sad to see you be so caught up in this kind of reflexive reasoning that you cannot differentiate between an attempt to comment on legitimate internal issues due to the damage that the real presence of malignant external influences on these discussions - which is also present alongside whatever we both talk about -has done to your capacity to engage with things you don't at first agree with or that seem like you don't agree with them
Or you are just trolling me - in which case: 7/10 I guess I brought it upon myself trying to talk about this stuff here
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>>541064800
https://voca.ro/12vLvyDa3VoW
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Please, whingeing peasants, calm your tits.
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>>541064874
Everything is under control.
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>>541064665
>How could he possibly know it was me from my one post
have you ever played far cry 3?
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>>541064665
>how could he possibly know
he doesn't he is just following my cia directions. I have over 9000 viruses on your computer right now and they're all raping your system.
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>>541061329
cultists
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Russian men have begun fleeing through the border to Georgia, causing huge queues.
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>>541064808
>gutless career politicians who are incapable of making decisions
This isn't a bug, it's a feature
Accelerating since the 1970s increasing oligarchy and capital has been undermining, infiltrating, bending and demolishing state capacity and democratic checks and balances on the economic goings-on previously imposed by the government to steer these things at a rate that is becoming obvious and bringing the internal contradictions of a democracy that has begun tolerating unregulated capitalism and allowed in cascading oligarchy to a head.
The "death of nationalism" is in many ways also just a function of capital interests having changed and superseded the structure of the nation states and now that corporations are in ways more powerful and wealthier than national governments of course these things fall by the wayside
To the nationalist the indians or any other such group may be seen as beneath them, primitive and to be dismissed as seen fit but to the international oligarchy that fundamentally and at this point foundationally influences our social and government policies we are basically all indians
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>>541060735
Image needs to be updated to include "logistics networks"
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>>541058240
Not to mention, if the elections were held at the current war borders the pro russia areas are already under russian control. Meaning that the result would be even more skewed towards TZD.
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>>541058402
They live in fucking hive cities. No wonder it breeds people with zero individualism.
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>>541065307
but if you ask pidors that's all HATO consensus fakery, xoxols love us, why would they not love us old rapists and thieves
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Kill all ziggers. Torture and behead zigger shills. Nuke Moscow.
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>>541063645
Liberalism is no longer credible. I really don't care much about Russia, but I hope they crush Ukraine because it would imply political defeat for Liberal Party in Canada and less taxes/more purchasing power for me.
Nothing personal, its just that it would be financially beneficial for us leafs if hohols lost.
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>>541054126
It’s too bad all of Moscow isn’t burning in atomic fire
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>>541065726
Your skin is brown. Your IQ is 70.
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>>541065726
I would be mad at liberalism too if it made me this chonky
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>>541064827
he is a cultist
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>>541064665
This shit's so retarded it has to be bait.
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>>541058276
Dw anon this is a low effort fake. You can tell because its literally the default table word gives you with default font.
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>>541065726
It's ironic to see you attribute to Liberalism (capital L liberalism, the foundational philosophical and political ideology, not the soulless, two-faced and half-hearted slop corporate ghouls in the DNC or in Canadian politics pass off as liberalism nowadays) what is fundamentally a function of neoliberal, post-modern capitalism and then engage in the exact same school of "thought" yourself in literally the next sentences all in the span of less than a paragraph.
Your thinking is completely subsumed by your emotional responses to what you perceive to be going on which is not be saying that your anger and disillusionment isn't merited but the way you direct it and the directives you draw from your perception are completely aesthetic and performative and they will lend you only more of the rape and abuse you previously complained about at the hands of people far more capable of this kind of hollowing out and selling out than the faltering institutions and systems you do rightfully criticize.
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>>541065917
you are a cope artist
is cope worth being killed for I wonder
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>>541065789
So a Liberal voter? No.
>>541065811
Liberals losing would mean my dollar becoming more chonky. Why would I not want that?
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>>541066077
I will profit from /rcwg/
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>>541065917
In the way he is acting in that moment that is a possible way to describe his motifs yeah.
But it's just not helpful to call him that because he's also more than that and that is just part of a multitude of ways he or anyone for that matter can think about the same topic in different contexts.
Also even if it is irrational it is at the same time a view that he does genuinely hold and presumably he doesn't do so for mere shits and giggles but because he genuinely believes at least part of what he says.
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>>541065946
I envy your wide eyed optimism
He's mentally ill
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>>541066077
>Liberals losing would mean my dollar becoming more chonky. Why would I not want that?
The kind of accelerationist, eschatological view of progress you espouse would in all likely realities just lead to impoverishment of both the people in the west and the global south or the east/china/india that you are likely part of
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>>541066223
if you believe we can survive without Western integration and NATO, you understand nothing
if you believe our hostility towards the russia is overblown, you are a dangerous moron
there can be no compromise with NATO or our relationship with what dumb pidors call the collective West
in this one instance the people deserve to be told what's good for them
no central power shit for you
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BALLISTIC ATTACK ON KYIV REPORTED
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EXPLOSIONS IN KYIV
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>>541066029
I'm just being pragmatic about things. Our "laurentian" class has a lot of business interests in Ukraine. Having them lost to Russia would mean Liberal party having less resources and less influence to conduct politics within Canada in future.
Regardless of your political ideology, fact of the matters remains: Ukraine losing would be good for us Leafs.
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>>541066514
Yes anon thats what missiles do.
You shouldve seen that coming.
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>>541066514
>>541066613
just more symptoms of pidors being terrified and fuckmad
stay safe
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>>541053575
Kek
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>>541066693
Sometimes they get intercepted and sometimes it's a false alarm, who knows
>>541066743
Thanks anon
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>>541066328
Objectively speaking, Liberal Party's economic policy is fiscal equivalent of flat earth theory(which is painfully obvious from the ongoing economic situation), so on contraire, its political loss would lead to economic growth.
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>>541066613
EXPLOSIONS IN MY ARSE FROM FARTING
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UKRAINE IS BURNING AND YOU ARE LAUGHING
UKRAINE IS BURNING AND YOU ARE LAUGHING
UKRAINE IS BURNING AND YOU ARE LAUGHING
UKRAINE IS BURNING AND YOU ARE LAUGHING
UKRAINE IS BURNING AND YOU ARE LAUGHING
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baking, stand by
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>>541065946
it's bait when you do it once or twice. when you do it daily it's just retardation
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KYIV's getting hammered hard with missiles rn.
Absolutely insane how many missiles are flying into it.
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>>541066946
>>541066946
FRESH BREAD
>>541066946
>>541066946
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>>541066223
> he's also more than that
remember that iq distribution curve
it works in uhg too
his
> This is /uhg/
is enough to estimate at what half he is
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>>541066955
Yeah can confirm, a LOT of explosions
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>>541066471
>if you believe we can survive without Western integration and NATO, you understand nothing
Literally nowhere did I say this
In fact the entire outset of this discussion was me bringing up contradictions withing western integration and NATO as problems rather than something I cheer for
You are completely misreading my intentions in bringing this up
>if you believe our hostility towards the russia is overblown, you are a dangerous moron
I think we are not even sufficiently aware as a society of the hostility that russia poses towards us rather than the stories and internal divisions our faltering but still more functional societies created internally
>there can be no compromise with NATO or our relationship with what dumb pidors call the collective West
I have argued against "discarding America" and giving up hope, relationships and multilateralism previously in this very thread
>in this one instance the people deserve to be told what's good for them
The thing is that all these matters we discuss are not something a governance run by international capital and oligarchs here in the west and especially America, England and Germany (in that order of magnitude) can meaningfully restore
It's like talking about the finer aspects of caring for fabrics when washing them and what different methods, chemicals, and machines there are for doing so when the only thing availiable is a slightly muddy river stream
>no central power shit for you
Again, you completely misunderstood what I brought up and why I brought it up
If we cannot talk about strategic problems and incongruities our societies and nations face then how can we assert we have strength in unity?
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>>541067000
bro, are you in a shelter?

Looks like 8 Zircons so far.
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>>541067001
we have no strength in unity, Europe sucks, but that doesn't mean the russia won't break the fuck apart
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>>541064027
Picrel.
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>>541066664
>I'm just being pragmatic about things. Our "laurentian" class has a lot of business interests in Ukraine.
There is nothing pragmatic about cheering for a return of an age where once again nations are all enemies in some respects and allies in others as we had in the lead-up of WW1+2 in Europe
>Having them lost to Russia would mean Liberal party having less resources and less influence to conduct politics within Canada in future.
Are these "liberals" in the room with us right now?
Your way of talking about this situation reeks of bannon-brained reactionary politics completely divorced from who is actually fucking you over and completely focused on a culture war that the capital class is both consciously and implicitly enabling and furthering directly and in terms of the conditions that cause this kind of apolitical thinking to arise
>Regardless of your political ideology, fact of the matters remains: Ukraine losing would be good for us Leafs.
No, Ukraine losing would be bad because it re-asserts the kind of great-power politics and autocracy that will make Canada an attractive target for increased US and Indian/Chinese coercion on a far more overt level while the capital class rapes you even harder
If you want to be able to improve things for the actual people of Canada you need to understand that this is only remotely possible through a democracy and in supporting the subjugation of Ukraine you support a world where autocracy and oligarchy reigns more and not less supreme, accelerating that which you claim to oppose
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would



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