Many sources are second hand accounts from hostile Christians. Traditions were passed down orally prior to conversion. Man sacred sites such as a the Dunar Tree were destroyed or converted to Christian sites of worship. What do we actually know about our ancient ancestors. Actually, unlike tribes in africa. There are no still existing European tribes today, so, it's not like we can go and ask them. I want to know more about my history and culture.
>>541055114Closest existing thing is rodnovery
>>541055114The AI God won't be pagan.
>>541055176>rodnoveryOh wow, I actually have never heard of this.
>>541055114Pro-tip just seek ultimate Love and it solves itself
>>541055114what can a memeflaggot retard learn about their history or culture
>>541055114They lost, but their people remain all the same. The current pagan revivals are gross mockeries and stitched up zombies of what's left. A genuine revival won't be the same as it was before as it can only come from the hearts of those remaining people and birth something new yet reminiscent
>>541055114We must go back to our gods of our forebears fellow Nazis and racists. >from hostile ChristiansOppressive,fucking intolerant christcucks hating on ethnic, religious (paganism, Islam etc) and sexual minorities is our MAIN fucking enemy and we must deal with them fucking FIRST!!
>>541055584Calm down levy
>>541055114triple goddess is a very common pagan motif
>>541055584We’ve been through this before Beth you bitch
Why they didn't they write down their shit like the romans and egyptians did are they stupid
>>541055114
>>541055833From my understanding alot of these traditions were probably considered to "sacred" to write down. Like any technology, writing was seen as "impure" let's say by many cultures. It was probably no different for European pagans.
>>541055833perhaps the stupid ones had to write it all down because they kept forgetting
>>541055531Sure, but, surly there is still some oral tradition, or, ritual that still exists today. Something. New paganism is indeed retarded.
>>541055114>There are no still existing European tribes todayThe Kalash is the closest to what you’re looking for. Their ancestors came from Europe 3,500 years ago and their religion is very ancient and has many deep parallels with ancient European pagan faiths.So technically, European pagan religions never died, they are just relegated to a few valleys in rural northern Pakistan.
>>541055114They lost
>>5410560374,000 steppe Aryan pagans still going strong, never extinct
>>541055114Many sources are not from butthurt christians but from the pagan greeks and romans aswell.
>>541055114>Many sources are second hand accountsWhere did you get this horseshit from?
>>541055833Much was written down about Greco-Roman religion, with large portions surviving to the modern day. There may have been more written down about northern European religion than still exists as well, we only have bits like the Poetic Eddas and the Havamal. It's not like we don't know anything about these gods, just not as much as we'd like.However much was also lost when Christians started burning libraries and destroying temples in the early centuries of their rule over their Roman empire.
>>541056143Also the Vedas and not to mention Hinduism I modern day paganism. Why is pol full of dumb fucking people?
>>541056037>>541056116Just googled them, they all look like shit jeets and worship some gay Vedic/ Hindu nonsense, dikshit
>>541056119>>541056119What first hand accounts exist? I am unfamiliar with them>>541056117True, but, it's not like they are from the perspective of living pagans of that time.
>>541056078They still exist, memeflag kike
>>541056274They’re whiter than everyone in the old testament kek
>>541056263>Hinduism is whitePajeet....
>>541056263Aside from the vedas having indo european influences what does this have to do with anything
>>541055531Religion and culture ultimately stem from genetics, so even if you wipe them from all historical records, they can still be rebuilt from the ground up as long as the people survive to do so.
>>541056335Hinduism is unironically Whiter than abrahamic religions. At least hinduism was created by Whites originally
>>541055114Well I interpret abrahamism as the attempted revenge of kronus, the titan who ate zeuses brothers and sisters because the worthless old man was afraid his children would usurp him.I consider myself a technohellenist. Imagine taking the mythology of the Olympians and addint to it doctrines of modern era and developing a regimen designed to strip worthless old men of their power and mercilessly attacking any form of collectivism.For example.Ares, god of war comes forth with the revelation of hybrid warfare. The means to identify hostile civilian action against the people in service of either the global south, communist collectivism or abrahamic humanistic universalism.The goal is to bootfuck every worthless old man who craves power, impose beauty on the planet and celebrate the imperfection of man and the meaning it provides to humanity.And the development of autonomous, ethnically exclusive nation states and the destruction of spiteful mutant wherever they exist.
>>541056335Who did the Hindu get their religion from ignorant reaction poster?
>>541056516>Hinduism was created by whites originallyProof?
>>541056516Vedic religion != Hinduism it's been 3500 years since they invaded the harappans
>>541056405>Aside from your whole point what is your pointAre you a tard anon?
>>541056590Your moms smell ass pajeet
>>541056516There is no such thing as white a whote race. You are all like a dog that adapted to the land, but ultimately, you are all stemmed from one common ancestry.
>>541056621Google Vedic religion no one is here to spoon feed you
>>541056644>Mention Aryan religion so you must be a JeetKill yourself
>>541056621>Proof?Archaeological proof of Aryan migrations, genetic testing, linguisric evidence, similarities with ancient european religions, etc. There is an immense amount of proof, stupid jeet.>>541056634True, but my point still stands. Hinduism after 3,500 years of brown corruption is still Whiter than any abrahamic religion.>>541056645Post hand
>>541055849Why did you post the same image twice
>>541056276Did you forget pagan Rome and Greece existed and they documented their gods and religion.
>>541056689>Vedic poopjeet religionYopur smell poopjeet religion isn't what we are talking about here faggot. You will literally never be white kill yourself
>>541056808All humans originated from the 3 sons of Noah. That's not a myth. That's scientific reality.
>>541056915I'm not interested in Roman or Greek Pagans. I specifically want to know about Germanic, Slavic and Anglo-saxon pagan religious practices, beliefs, and society.
>>541056276Yeah they are. Greco-Roman sources often predate Christianity entirely, so they would've been from people actively practicing Greek or Roman religion which would've been the only option available at the time, which in itself has deep ties to the old gods as they likely would've been followed all over Europe. There's many similarities between the gods we do know about across what we know of the old religions of Europe, with differences in value across different cultures. Odin for instance is most similar to the Greek god Hermes, but obviously Odin was considered much more important and central among the Scandi cultures than Hermes was amongst Greeks, and he had additional qualities that reflected the love of the longship. Romans liked Mars a lot, to them he was the god of soldiers and civilization, the shield at the border, but amongst Greeks his equivalent Ares was not so well-liked and considered more of a chaotic force, reflecting differences in Greek and Roman values.Even later sources we have like the Metamorpheses, written 8 years AD, would've reflected the views of a practicing Roman living in a practicing Roman culture using sources from practicing Greek/Roman religionists from many centuries before.
>>541055114>What do we actually know about Pagans?That the were based, that they created all Western philosophy, math, science, learning, and culture, that they were the #1 thing to stand against the jews, and that the world has been drastically worse off since Abrahamism took over.
>>541056991Then say that in your post you goal moving faggot and even then the Vedas were documented first hand and is the source of Germanic and Nordic paganism.
>>541057157You are all irrelevant without God Almighty.
>>541055404Criminally underrated postNo one gets it but it's simple
>>541055833They did write it down, christians destroyed the writings then claimed pagans didn't write them down.
>>541057192That is what I said you fucking retard. Do I have to put a big ass billboard outside your house saying "HEY DON'T TALK ABOUT POOPJEET RELIGIONS IN THIS THREAD!" I didn't mention them because I don't care about them. I Am fucking white and descendent from Frisia. I Don't give a fuck about whatever poopjeet bullshit you're talking about.Only in so far as I Could use this as a proxy to learn about Frisi and Pagan Culture in europe do I care.Saging my own thread cause holy fuck.
>>541057317Where in your original post did you say this was only about German paganism?
>>541055114Reminder that classical paganism and Zeus, Thor, Jupiter, Poseidon, and every other pagan god you've ever heard of was NOT the original or indigenous religious beliefs of the early Europeans.Classical paganism was just as foreign, if not more, than Christianity and was imposed on Europeans by outsider invaders, replacing their original native beliefs.People were living in Europe and around the Mediterranean for tens of thousands of years, and had their own indigenous religious beliefs and practices and gods that were all almost completely eliminated after the invasions of the Proto-Indo-Europeans out of the central Eurasian steppes which only happened a few thousand years ago.What you think of as "pagan" is not native or indigenous to most of Europe. The true original/indigenous religion is long gone, and was probably much more shamanistic/animistic in nature, instead of the capeshit meme gods of PIE-derived classical paganism.
>>541055114>Christianity aka New Judaism>read and weepEurope was essentially turned into a Jewish Caliphate
>>541057317Also you are an American mutt like me stop larping as a German, it's pathetic.
>>541056975Are you literally phoneposting in a car? Peak fag behavior.
>>541057409>the Proto-Indo-Europeans out of the central Eurasian steppesalways laughable when some muttchimp discusses geographypro-tip: Ukraine is in Europe, muttcattlesecondly, we actually descend, especially paternally speaking, from those proto-indo-europeans, hence being a religion of the fathers, unlike that ghastly semitic nigger religion you are groomed to partake in with your worthless guatemalan family
>>541057217You're a faggot thai ladyboy and aren't a part of Western society no matter how much you LARP. Your opinion is as irrelevant as old gum on the sidewalk.
Sound like your ancestors are just illiterate, and can't be ass to record shit. Unlike the Christians. The entire history of humanity was not that long. It's less 10,000 years.
>>541057598I am the King of Heaven and Earth, and the Lord of all creation. My opinion is absolute, and those who oppose me will all die, and go to Hell.
>>541055114Pagans worshipped their own gods and accepted that other peoples gods had some power. They often believed different gods had power in different regions. Gods were worshipped because of the power they would have to give to their followers, like worshipping war god to hype yourself up and do better in combat, worshipping fertility god by abstaining from vices and eating certain foods that were healthy.The abrahamic religions are the ones who said you could only worship one god, and that worshipping it was tied to accepting you are getting fucked up your asshole. They are the tyranny of religions/spirituality.
>>541056263hard cringe
>>541055114>my history and culture.Start with the history of computer programming then, robutt.
>>541057694You can cringe about facts all you want anon.
>>541056991I don't know about Slavic, never looked into it much, but Germanic/Anglo is pretty slim pickings to my understanding. Most of the books about old European religion revolve around Ancient Greece, Rome, Scandinavian religion, and there's also a fair bit of Celtic/Irish stuff available.Realistically though, the Scandi religion is going to be pretty darn close to whatever Germans were doing. Scandinavians are Germans who lived further up north, so whatever they practiced is just their borderland version of what was probably being done in Germany. If anything I'd guess mainland Germans just had more interest in Tyr/Thor since they were less interested in war and wandering, Odin's claims to fame.Anglo-Saxon is a messier question, the "Saxon" there just means "Scandinavian" or "Viking," and the term reflects the fact that the Saxons conquered most of the British Isles about a thousand years ago, but at a time when the Anglos had already Christianized. The Anglos were just one of the ethnic groups there at the time, and notably the one that didn't get completely destroyed, instead just interbreeding over time after the Anglo king slowly naturalized the Scandinavian invaders. As for what Anglos or other groups were doing prior to getting Christianized or brutally Scandified, one would guess it would've been close to what the Scots-Irish were up to, and the best sources for that are old Celtic/Irish religion.So an "Anglo-Saxon" old religion would probably be equal parts Celtic and Scandinavian.
>>541057689>The abrahamic religions are the ones who said you could only worship one god, and that worshipping it was tied to accepting you are getting fucked up your asshole. They are the tyranny of religions/spirituality.And they lie to us about what the characters names were (Yeshua, Miriam and Yoself not Jesus, Mary and Joseph) what Yeshua looked like (he was a Jew with Jewish features not a White man with long hair) etc. And then Miriam is only a holy woman because she's never had sex so that makes people think that sex is dirty vs. celebrating the love and romance aspect of it.
>>541056274>>541056335>>541056943rigveda was written by aryansvedic religion is not hindooism, hindooism degenerated OUT of itthis can easily be seen by comparing ancient European paganism (and Kalash religion too). European paganism exalts the warrior, Hindooism exalts the priest. European paganism sacrifices the cow, Hindooism eats the cows shit. European pagans still worshipped the Vedic God Indra (in their own individual forms), Hindoos all but forgotten about him because he is an ARYAN God>How did Aryans write the rigveda?The first Aryans lived between Ukraine and the Caucasus. Their descendants eventually moved into Central Asia, and then after some time India (and also basically half the globe). The rigveda was written by these Aryan invaders who then conquered the garden that was pre-industrial northeastern India for themselves. They were the rulers but outnumbered by their new aboriginal jeet slaves who adopted their religion (or had it imposed upon them). After their Aryan rulers either left, racemixed with the jeets or otherwise disappeared they began following aboriginal jeet religion again by misinterpreting and jeetifying the rigveda.>>541057409This is correct, "European paganism" is really just Aryan religion. Aryans annihilated the previous "Europeans" so hard that Basque is the only non-Aryan language left from them.>>541057608You are wrong. It is much MUCH older.
>>541057898Nope. I am right. The history of humanity is less than 10,000 years.
>>541057409Issue with that is, if you're a White person reading this post, your lineage is to those Aryan invaders and not whoever was in Europe before them, so it's kinda immaterial. The PIE gods are your original gods as far as anyone can tell, going back as far as we do as a distinct people.
>>541057507>pro-tip: Ukraine is in Europe, muttcattleYes, in the central Eurasian steppes, like I said.Pro-tip: Most of Europe is NOT Ukraine, you stupid dago wop guinea. Unless you are some Ukrainian nigger, your ancestors did have some original, indigenous religion for tens of thousands of years that was NOT muh classical paganism. Paganism was imposed on your ancestors by force by external barbarian invaders. Zeus and Jupiter and Odin and all of that would have been just as foreign to them as Jesus Christ. Parts of southern Europe have already been Christian longer than they followed classical paganism. >secondly, we actually descend, especially paternally speaking, from those proto-indo-europeansLiterally no different than becoming a muslim because one of your ancestors was a rape-baby produced by Paki rape gangs.
>>541057689>>541057895In all likelihood the original Hebrew religion had the same ideas about gods being local to one place and not having power elsewhere, as in being distinctly tied to one set of blood and soil; there's remnants of it still in the religion, which is why there's any debate about the Temple Mount, which is now held by the Al Aqsa mosque but was also the site of the prior two Jewish temples, Solomon's and the 2nd. Really strict Jews think the Temple Mount has the rock from which the whole world was made in it. The idea of a transcendental god that applies to everyone everywhere may have come about during exile in Babylon, as a sort of coping mechanism for a priestly caste cut off from their god.
>>541057436Only glowniggers talk on their desktop while breaking their back in order to push their worthless agenda.
>>541058266>Paganism was imposed on your ancestors by force by external barbarian invaders.Pagans didn’t forcefully convert other pagans, dumbass. The steppe Aryan religions spread via the indigenous Europeans being assimilated by the Aryans. It spread naturally and through blood, unlike christianity.
>>541057976Delusional Jewish beliefs, ofc.
>>541058836It's a fact. All you have is cope.
>>541057426Do you actually know where you came from? Cause I actually do. My great grandparents immigrated from holland in like 1879
>>541058093>if you're a White person reading this post, your lineage is to those Aryan invaders and not whoever was in Europe before them, so it's kinda immaterial. No, other than certain parts of northeastern Europe, most Europeans have significantly more admixture from the mesolithic Western Hunter Gatherers and neolithic Early European Farmers than they get from the later PIE Steppe invaders.PIE languages almost completely supplanted earlier European languages, but genetically much less so.>The PIE gods are your original gods as far as anyone can tellAgain, no. Your European ancestors had their own original religious beliefs and practices for tens of thousands of years before the PIE barbarian invaders imposed classical paganism on them. Classical paganism is not original or native to the vast majority of Europe outside of the eastern steppe regions.
>>541059166>PIE barbarian invaders imposed classical paganism on themDefine “imposed” in this context
>>541059245he has to play retarded like all worthless christian animals because he wants to equate a religion that was passed down through paternal descent from local Europeans to a religion imposed like bolshevism top-down directly from levantinechristians are vermin far worse than their jewish owners
>>541058795>Pagans didn’t forcefully convert other pagans, dumbass.Stop being naive. You sound like a modern leftist trying to cope by pretending that Paki rape gangs are peacefully assimilating into Britain and that there are mosques and sharia law there now because the native British welcome it.
>>541059022I thought you saged the thread anon?
>>541058795Yes they did, for example Celts forced their pagan shit on ancient Ireland despite having little genetic impact on the population. The Celts in Britain even co-opted Stonehenge, even though they didn't build it. But most importantly, pagan beliefs were not worth forcing on others because they were dumb fucking fairy tales with less depth than a footprint in sand.
>>541059476Pagans did forcefully convert pagans, but, it wasn't a total destruction of identity like with monotheism, nigger. that's insane. Christianity systemically destroyed native European belief structures to worship a jew wizard.
>>541059544Do you even know what saging does?
>>541055114I am a child of earth and starry heavens.
>>541059584>Pagan beliefs are fairytails>unlike my magic flying wizard jew
>>541059618I know you threw a fit when I pointed out you moved goal posts kek.
>>541059245>Define “imposed” in this contextInvasion, warfare, rape, conquest, etc. The same things that have been happening for all of human history.I'm sure there were some cucks who voluntarily started following Deus-Pater because they thought his capeshit lore was cooler than the shamanistic/animistic beliefs his ancestors had been following since the neolithic, but for most people it would have been something imposed on them by the outside invaders who just conquered them and they just went with it as a way to survive.
>>541056322Alright go hang out with the slightly lighter street shitters and drink some piss then. Worship their 6 armed monkey gods that literally command you to eat shit
Paganism is cringe larping>dude all these competing gods who hate each other and have affairs with each other like a soap opera are the almighty creators of the universe and sheeit
>>541056621there is no proof. albinos cant into spirituality thats why all their prophets are brown. vedas, puranas and itihasas are all native to aryabharata. goat herders from steppes were nomads much like mongols. civilizations existed in saraswati river valley much before they got assimilated these nomadic tribes got assimilated.
Oh yeah but most pagan LARPers never even talk about the mythology or morals and traditions they supposedly believe in.The closest thing you’ll find is the obese LGBTQ+ Wiccan bitches who LARP as witches and shit IRL
>>541059951You theorize that whites can't into spirituality. I know for a fact that jeets can't shit into toilet.
>>541059607>it wasn't a total destruction of identityLOL, it most certainly was. If anything, it was a far more complete destruction than happened during the conversion to Christianity. We know almost nothing about the religious beliefs and practices and gods from before the PIE invasion, because almost all of it was completely wiped out and replaced with PIE-sourced paganism. Occasionally, someone will come across some odd tradition or hint of a god somewhere in Europe that doesn't really fit because it's a fragment of the old beliefs or old gods that somehow survived the conversion to PIE classical paganism, but it's rare. Most of what people believed before then is a complete mystery.
>>541055114There's plenty of evidence out there. You have hundreds of years of Greco-Roman pre-Christian history/art to go over. Unless you mean the niggers of the north (vikangz) in which case, who gives a fuck.
>>541060213>theorizeits a fact cletus. morons in utah and televangelists are only relevant in us. there’s no albino spiritual icon with global prominence.
Just leaving this here
>>541060281You're fucking high on cocaine. Good cocaine.We know nothing because they didn't keep records. Christians did keep records and they destroyed, replaced and desecrated ancient sites of worship. You're nuts
>>541055114Pagan is a literal translation of gentile. Kikes literally just calling non-kikes goyim.
>>541055114Pagan ?do you mean pre Christian European religion . Pagan was a slur urban Christian’s used similar to redneck today. Native European Relgion is a better term . Pagans today include wiccans and other modern stuff most of it based of of thelema and new age. If NER nattive europen religions are to be taken seriously they must distance themself from the term pagan.
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>>541058783ouch
>>541055114Well look at rome or greece. Northern europe probably had something similar only locally themed and more hillbilly
/pol/ knows virtually nothing because they /pol/tards don’t read
>>541059861The difference is pagan groups never forced converted each other. The indigenous Europeans were assimilated into the Aryan society by marriage and slowly adopted the Aryan religion.>>541059920they’re not hindu, retard. >slightly lighterFar whiter than the average christcuck (charcoal nigger)
LOL at all the retarded white people in this thread>worship your European religions white man>those religions are not indigenous European, but Indo-European>AKSHUALLY they were both white and I’m white so I worship the foreign conquering hordes religionEvery one of you needs to kys. You don’t care about religion or Europe, you just care about your pathetic fellow pigskins.
>>541055180It won't be your jewish sky daddy or his supposed son either, faggot.
>>541056975Lmfao how old are you? This board is 18+ little fag
>>541063503I'm 30 this year.
>>541063360It will be my servant.
>>541063537Gook boy
>>541063585Old cunt mutilated cattle.
>>541063537You should start using your hands for other things than typing on your phone.
threadly reminder christians and abrahamics are traitors to their race and traitors to humanity
>>541063719You gave no shit your ancestors nor your race. You are a traitor to God Almighty.Reminder that you will die and go to Hell.
>>541063831You worship a jewish demiurgeEarth is not a dome and your bible is falseYour hebrew fraud cult disintegrates the instant people are allowed to question it and you golems cannot harm anyone anymore
>>541063831I see you’ve ruined another thread faggot
>>541063923I worship the Almighty God. Earth is a creation of God Almighty.You will all die and go to Hell.
>>541055114Watch all of Asha logos videos, anon. You will thank me later.
>>541064085shut up fag god damn
>>541064477You picked a fight, and then you get fucked. Stop whining you little bitch.
>>541064085Oh it's you. You're the jew larping as a christcuck lol.
>>541064731Your reading conprehenaion is garbage. Your imagine of God Almighty is blasphemous as well. You will certainly die and go to Hell.
>>541064611no one even asked or said anything to you.You started all this faggot christcuck worshiping bullshit and when YOU get called out on it you act like a fag. Fuck off nigger no one cares.
>>541065146You insult Christians and called them a cuck. That's enough to justify me in killing all of your people. You pagans and anti-christ shitters are all garbage, retards, and weakling.Die and go to Hell
>>541065293Christianity is a jewish religion that has been responsible for the desecration of not only white culture but literally cultures all over the world. You worship a god of subservience. I am not religion I just simply desire to know the history indo-european anglo saxons like myself. You don't find it weird any time this conversation gets brought up some fag like you is there to decry and scream about it?
>>541066111Nope. I get more power when I talk about God Almighty. You are the one who get drained.
>>541068019Hard to argue with some one who believes they are self evidently correct.
