why didn't germutty build strategic bombers
>>541067706because they were fighting a defensive war
>>541067706should have missile maxxed instead.
They had prototypes to attack America
>>541067706We're not barbaric monsters, no real battlefield value.
>>541067706They put all their stats in uboats.
>>541067739They defensively occupied the entirety of europe
>>541067814
>>541067706Strategic bombing is a long term strategy. You theoretically wouldn't need them if your plan was to win the war quickly.
>>541067706germany was retarded. all they had to do was arm the v2's with chemical or biological weapons and they could have won the war. instead they sent millions of the best german men to their fruitless deaths and then allowed Jewsinehower to starve millions more to death before they were buck broke permanently
They canned the program because it needlessly took away resources from the many other things the Luftwaffe needed.
>>541067706They did, they even had a ural bomber and america bomber but lacked the resources to build and fuel them>>541067739They fought an offensive war of choice>>541067762Yes, but Germany is a small country in the middle of Europe with no natural resources and stood zero chance against empires that controlled 70% of the world, the only path to victory was stopping after poland and france
>>541067814>>541067849>our noble ethnic hygiene vs. their savage genocidal killing sprees
>>541067966the one guy who wanted them to have bombers died in a plane crash.
this is about the B-29, the american bomber:The $3 billion cost of design and production (equivalent to $54 billion in 2025),[1] far exceeding the $1.9 billion cost of the Manhattan Project, made the B-29 program the most expensive of the war.
>>541067966yea i think they had to make stuff out of a magneisum rather than steel because they were so resource poor
>>541067972Mutts can't deal with nuance or moderation
>>541067881Hitler was a retard we didn't had the resources for an attritional war and our biggest source the Soviets he decided to attack them too because yolo lmao The British were literally a few days away from bombing the Caucasus oil field effectively declaring war in the Soviets but operation Barbarossa happened before it...Ooh boy what could have been.
>>541067966this is a fed
>>541068023wtf how
>>541067706>could make two twin engine aircraft than a single 4 engine bomber>fuel and time/material shortages>retardedness>1943 turned defensive too late buddy
>>541067966>Yes, but Germany is a small country in the middle of Europe with no natural resourcesshouldnt have started a war against the Soviet Union and instead made the USA and Britcucks the main enemy.give Soviets technology and know how and get resources in exchange.also dont side with japs.might suck to live with Soviet Union communists but after 80 years they crumble anyway and then you can annex them.
>>541068172Wouldn't the soviets just invade Germany a few years later anyway? Thought Stalin was counting on that to happen and got surprised early
>>541067706Excellent questionFirst, because the NSDAP was a judeo-masonic psyop from the start and heavily infiltrated by all sorts of handlers, agents, and assets of both the judeo-bolsheviks and the Western banking jews, who also bankrolled the nazis and German rearmamentSecond, this led to a subtle process of support (giving Germany enough rope to hang itself with) and sabotage (ensuring Germany would never actually be a threat to the puppet masters) In this process, the Luftwaffe was early on recognized as of prime importance, so its key positions were taken by agents (most importantly, the JEWISH nazi Erhard Milch) while its actual experts - e.g. strategic bombing theorist Walther Wever - were liquidatedThird, said agent the JEWISH Luftwaffe general Milch sabotaged development of a four engine bomber (as well as e.g. radar tech) to leave Germany completely defenseless vs strategic bombing
>>541068261not if Stalin is convinced that hes next and mutt and britcucks come for them too which also ended up happening with the cold war and now this new cold war.if everything went right then Europe with Russia and China would be a true superpower and amerimutts and britcucks would drown in shitskins and niggers but not us.
Imagine if they made Silbervogel
>>541068261They would have had nukes by then. So Cold War v2 - Thousand Year Reich vs USSR.
>>541068261There was a plan to take all of Europe and hitler came first killing 27m communist subhumans sending them back to hell fucking them so up they could only take the subhuman parts of Europe.Who knows how it would have ended up if we allowed the Soviets to fully create their army for the invasion.
>>541068017Strategic bombing wouldn’t have changed the outcome of the war regardless>>541068074They used magnesium instead of aluminum >>541068172Stalin actually didnt believe his general when he was told germany was attacking ussr and thought his intelligence service was lying to him because of how retarded operation barbarosa was. Germany stood zero (0) chance against the united states, we are 4% of population and 6% of land but were 35% of world’s gdp, rising to 50% by end of the war. The industrial output dwarfed germany, who again, has no natural resources. The UK still had an empire that spanned 25% of the land and people on the planet and could have easily held out against Germany indefinitely since Germany wasnt even able to defeat the RAF, much less the royal navy and actually cross the channel
>>541068616>since Germany wasnt even able to defeat the RAF, much less the royal navy and actually cross the channelThey could have if they had used the resources that went into Barbarosa
>>541068616the trick would been to use the tens of million of soviet soldiers to fight britain and the US.Soviet Soldiers backed by superior German technology would have wiped the mutts/anglocucks out eventually.then once communism crumbles you just take over and slowly transform it into a better structure.its a long game you'd have to play but would been doable.
>>541067837Yes. Odd, that. Almost like European countries aren't scaled for mechanized warfare.
>>541068758>Soviet Soldiers backed by superior German technologyOne of the main tenets of US geostrategy has been to keep Germany and Russia at odds with each other at all costs.
Germs didn't have fuel. At peak, they were getting 5000 tonnes of aerial fuel from refineries daily. Thus, they couldn't compensate their little nazi boy pussy with larger planes.
>>541068616The American weakpoint is that they're impotent niggers and the way to win against USA 1940 was inflicting millions of deaths resulting in a crying population who elect a new president who want peace and no war anymore.The USA couldn't stomach millions of deaths.
>>541068758are you high? half the ideology is a hate boner about "judeo bolshevism"there is no teaming up with coomunists>>541068261its the other way around, germany will always invade udssr in every scenario
>>541068875>eject the problem>refuse to notice the problem isn't dead, just ran away>insist mass casualties are requiredYou're not a Kraut.
>>541067837This is accurate, yes. Well done!I'm not sure about defensively occupying russia though that seems like one of those drug things
>>541068838yes and germany should have acted against that.>>541068998then the ideology should have been changed and turned more into an anti US anti anglo thing.anglos and mutts should have been more hated than Slavs and this would have been the right move as we have seen.
>>541068744The RAF defeated the luftwaffe before Operation Barbarossa>>541068758You and USSR had zero ability to land troops on mainland USA and if the war continued past when it did, Germany would have been nuked since they were being built for use on Germany and not Japan. Even combining Germany and USSR, you could not have defeated even British much less the USA>>541068875Germany had zero ability to reach USA in 1940, they couldnt even cross the 20 mile channel, let alone a 3000 mile ocean
>>541068261Stalin hoped that Germany would fight a long war against both France and the UK, which would give the Russian army time to strengthen. When France collapsed after barely a month of fighting, Stalin knew he was absoltely fucked and tried to avoid conflict with Germany for as long as possible, even going so far as to ignore repeated warnings about the imminent German invasion
>>541069142>You and USSR had zero ability to land troops on mainland USAwe dont have to invade them, we can just cut them off with our superior Uboot waffen.>Germany would have been nukednukes arent real tho
>>541069142>The RAF defeated the luftwaffe before Operation Barbarossa...and if they planes and resources set for Barbarosa were sent to defeat the barely surviving RAF? Brits were one attack away from giving up.
>>541067706Because Hitler refused to wage war on civilians
>>541069142Funny that a muttoid instantly thinks about killing civilians.The shit battle in the east should have never happened instead a real alliance would have been based.I mean killing 10 million mutt soldiers in west Europe, that would have broken the USA internally
>>541069148I guess there is a degree of hindsight involved because even if WW2 was economically infeasible for Germany winning against France in a couple of weeks was also seen as impossible and they gambled correctly there. Maybe Stalin would have underestimated his own staying power in a war. Western allies thought the soviet army was third rate too. (I guess they were in a sense but they still won)
>>541069345>Funny that a muttoid instantly thinks about killing civilians.>>541068875Hmmmmmmm.
>>541069225A few thousand airplanes went in that operation while we build around 100k in the entire war.That was important as the battle of analbania was for the entire WWII.
>>541067837Kanker homo, dood aan joden en heil hitler.
>>541069252>because Hitl-ACK
>>541069215the uboats were defeated fairly easily and ceased to be a problem after 1943. Nukes are very much real>>541069225again, luftwaffe was defeated before barbarossa, there were no resources to divert because it hadnt happened yet and wasnt even in the planning stages. Battle of Britain was June 1940 and Barbarossa was June 1941, with planning not starting until February of 1941
>>541067706Germany has been a problem in Europe for over 2K years. An annoying place.
>>541067814>We're not barbaric monsters,Yes we are. We totally deserved to get nuked
>>541069680You do realize you're on a website where humans can read English, yes?
>>541067837RIGHTFUL CLAY IS LIBERATED NOT OCCUPIEDPLUS YOU GOTTA SETTLE SOME SCORES FROM THE LAST WAR LIKE TAKING PARISTHEN THE REICH NEEDS A LITTLE LEBENSRAUM ITS ONLY NATURAL
>>541067706germon resources in ww2 were absurdly low. production of aviation fuel peaked in 1943 at some 5000 tons a day. a single ju 390 had a fuel capactiy of 34 tons. you're welcome
>>541069466should have sent more. Haha, why are krauts so retarded?
>>541069345There wouldnt have been “10 million mutt soldiers in the east” because the initial plan was to defeat Germany from the air by bombing factories, infrastructure and military targets. We only invaded to prevent the soviets from taking over all of Europe by continuing to sweep across after taking you, so in you scenario, we would have bombed all of your factories, bases, dams, bridges, etc like normal and then nuked you in 1945 without invading, losing only the 38,000 troops we lost during the air campaign
>>541069561>Alle Nederlandse mannen als dwangarbeiders naar Moffrikaanse fabriekenKoppie kaalscheren landverrader
was in the planingsee Horten H XVIIIhttps://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horten_H_XVIII
>>541069822We were busy raping worthless poolackenlümmel cattle you have to understand,4 million of you didn't removed themself
>>541069603I supplied you with an actual answer >>541068318, instead you engage with retards and the thread fills with NPC programming and the usual hitler apologists and their inane nonsense This board's gone down the drain man, not just cos of the retards but lazy and stupid OPs like you
>>541069855Seems like a working strategy just see your losing Iran war lmao, Germany had peak industry output at the end of 1944.
>>541067706Ze V2 was better
>>541068083Hitler just couldn't bring himself to "sniff Russian shit" for an indeterminate period of time, but an interesting point. Along with any British moves against Russia, would there have even been an Al-Alamein? If half of the forces in Barbarrosa had been assigned to Rommel, they would have walked into Iraq.
>>541067706It would have violated their treaty with the Vril.
>>541068172USSR was definitely planning on invading soon as the Neutrality agreement ended.
>>541069955you are a metrosexual gay from berlin. Ausgerot Merzgfag.when shit hits the fan and the war comes, i will be shooting german fascists like you.
>>541069776If Germany hadn't thrown a hissy fit over being poor after WW1, and caused WW2, we wouldn't be so fucked up at this time. The Soviet Union would have gotten the blame for killing the jews(because they were doing that too) and the world would have united against communism a decade earlier than it did.Germany's economy would have recovered naturally without the NSDAP's bullshit.
>>541067943>All they had to do was commit heinous war crimes and they could have won!
>>541070239Slaveshits will end up in KZs once again sweetheart.
>>541067943>bombs the ruhr with anthraxnothing personnel kraut
>>541068616>Germany wasnt even able to defeat the RAFBecause it was on Britain's home turf and radar saved them.>much less the royal navy and actually cross the channelUboats provided sea superiority until Britain cracked the Enigma machine.
According to speer they should have spammed interceptors to defend germany from the bombers, but instead hitler insisted on the v1 and v2 long range rockets which were super useless and expensive.
>>541070610You can't even read German so how would you know anything at all?
>>541069105>anglos and mutts should have been more hated than Slavs and this would have been the right move as we have seen.You're retarded and Hitler doesn't agree with you. The US had a good white stock in the 1940s and is the biggest German diaspora. Russians were judeo-bolshevized asiatic slavic mutts. No idea why you have any affinity for that shithole after what they did to Europe.
>>541067706They focused too much on making lamps and soap out of jews.
>>541070254>No, Weimar wasn't my fault>my ancestors didn't emigrate specifically due to Weimar>Heebie jeebies? What's that?Delusional retard fantasies.
>>541067966>>541067966>They fought a defensive war of necessity fixed.
>>541070683I read an english translation
>>541067706because they had guided rockets and jet fighers
>>541069955uh oh! but im here! laughing how stupid krauts were, losing 8million only to get raped by mongoloid animals. Check your family tree krautie (or maybye.. or most likely! half-krautie!) you may come across some funny surprises there!
>>541070587>Uboats provided sea superiorityNo they didn't, they were just fuckung annoying. Also Enigma was cracked in less than 4 months of the war.
>>541071094>Churchill claimed that “The only thing that ever really frightened me during the war was the U-boat peril.”
>>541071094Enigma was cracked years before war started.
>>541067706It's very complex and difficult. All of Japan's heavy industries failed to build one as well. I was reading a story once about how Japan was trying to low key buy a bomber from an American plane builder. But the Americans figured it out and sold them 2 flawed planes. Then they took them to Japan and spent a bunch of time and resources trying to reverse engineer 2 shit planes that couldn't fly.
>>541070254>If Germany hadn't thrown a hissy fit over being poor after WW1Well it was self inflicted, they had a retard who believed total money supply had no effect on inflation. They didn't even make any payments towards restitution for WW1, just kept printing cash to prop up domestic industries.
>>541070820I notice you didn't say I was wrong. Exactly. I hold my people responsible for bad decisions. I do not excuse Germans(and other parts of my genome) for mistakes. I point the mistakes out so others can see them. Germany has historically acted as a negative influence on the world. You want to talk about the damage the Haber process has done to the world? You know how you get 1.6B jeets and 1B niggers in Africa? Cheap ammonia. Thanks Haber-Bosch! Why did Germany create the Haber process? To make nitrates to make bombs in WW1. So Germany's war led to the creation of a technology that has led to the proliferation of third world trash.That's just ONE issue.Germany has been a problem for a long time. It's like a place where weird autistic freaks gather to make retarded shit that ends up fucking over different empires.
>>541071052Ask your grandmother what types of cock she took and how many at oncehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_Soviet_occupation_of_Poland
>>541071191The original one but that Polish guy yeah, they reworked the codes so a new solution was needed.>>541071166Churchill said a lot of shit, Royal Navy maintained full functionality throughout the war. And again Enigma was cracked by January 1940
>>541067943Hitler, that crazed inhuman who hated mankind, avoided using chemical (or biological l) weapons after he was injured in a gas attack in WWl.
>>541067837>Euros occupy half the planet with straight up colonialism>Noooo, you can't occupy us noooo
>>541070513That pasta of "operation vegetarian" is chilling, considering the OP postulated that a likely outcome would be a poisoning of the Eurasian landmass with anthraxTalk about flipping the table
>>541070395Yes, the angloniggers did it and guess who won the war?
>>541071450When did the British use chemical or biological weapons in WW2?
>>541068103AI:A total of 3,970 Boeing B-29 Superfortress bombers were built between 1943 and 1946.They were used in the Pacific War as well as Europe.
>>541071275>you didn't tell me I was wrong, you just made it clear that I wasWhat an amazing conversation we're having. Damn do I love bad faith faggots. Still waiting for you to figure out who your enemy actually is.
>>541067837Yep, exactly, unironically
>>541067762the v1 were totally worthless in ww2a full day of launches at optimal 30 launches was a max of 30 tons of explosives while allies were dropping 3000 tons on germany every day
>>541067837Correct
>>541067706Strat Bombers are useless without air superiority. Also, those bomber building programs are expensive as fuck. They literally cost more than making nukes.
>>541071746America had some obscene amount of resources, our daily oil production was the same as their annual one or something preposterous like that.Another cool thing I read was Hitler apparently felt impelled to invade russia because his only oil source was romania and it seems russian bombers in crimea could have knocked it out in a lightning strike.
>>541069561>>541069864ffs, invent a real language
>>541067706They’re too dense
>>541071323none, you cock obsessed mongoloid rape baby, my grandparents are from the south Poland and that part of the front was maintained by Polish forces
>>541071674Just because you can't counter my point doesn't make this a bad faith argument. The NSDAP fucking sucked. Burned hot and fast then burned out with a whimper. That's what happens when you do meth BTW. Shit goes great until the psychosis and addiction set in, then you're fucked. The NS used meth. Brilliant decision. Great idea. What could possibly go wrong by handing out pervitin to the troops, factory workers, and party leaders? Oh. That. Right.It's no wonder jews keep fucking us over. With brilliant faggots like you that can't recognize retarded ideas, who needs enemies?Germany is the reason Europe is fucked to this very day. And they're STILL doing it. Been doing it since the days of Rome.
>>541071935
>>541072132>muh NSDAP suckedNo it didnt jew shut the fuck up already>MUH METH You are actually just fucking stupid if you arent a kike
>>541072212...Oh shit, I can read Dutch now...
>>541067706Rubber was a resource that they lost during the conflict.
>>541071889yes barbarossa was mostly over control of romania's oil supplies, but mainly it was to remove russia from the game which would force britain to give upthey invade, knock russia out, russia signs quick treaty giving germany eastern sphere, britain gives upthat was german high command train of thoughtkeep in mind that even in 1945 russia was short 1/3rd of its steel and petroleum capacity and producing 10% less coal and electricity than in 1940
>>541072132I will now provide you a single entry list of the people that still seethe about Germany to this day.>oops, redacted because you're a fucking bitch
>>541072349Again, you're not proving me wrong. If the NS didn't have their cool as fuck uniforms and style, they'd have nothing. But of course, hiring an elite fashion designer to make you look cool works on low-IQ retards. They accelerated fast, burned fast and hot, then burned out. Because they were on meth. The meth is what ultimately destroyed them. Not the US or Russia. The brain busting effects of methamphetamine is what destroyed the nazis. It made them fast, efficient(for a small period), and committed, but then the side effects and addictions set in and imploded the whole thing.Every time Germans do some crazy history-breaking shit in history, they always fuck things up with something of their own making.The good Germans flee the country when they can, and always do better after they do, than their relatives back home.
>>541072779>proof?>proof?>how about some proof.>What, actually think about what you said? No, I'll take proof.You have already been proven wrong. You are just incapable of grasping the points provided. Have fun with your seethe, faggot.
>>541067706Strategic bombers didn't have a place in the blitzkrieg paradigm. However, as the war went on, and German command dreamed of attacking US soil, German aircraft companies began designing strategic bombers through the "Amerikabomber" project. Most of them didn't make it off paper, and those that did had numerous issues that prevented them from having an effect on the outcome of the war.
>>541070189>would there have even been an Al-Alamein?it would have happened anyways, the most interesting thing would have been the persian-soviet-german alliance to expel the british from Iran and from there they would have assisted the rebel Iraqi government that supported the axis, the history would be very different >If half of the forces in Barbarrosa had been assigned to Rommel, they would have walked into Iraq true, Hitler sent some troops and planes to Iraq but it was too late A younger Nasser pulling the coup a few years earlier would have been good too
>>541070189It was very difficult for gitler to supply oil to north africa. I think one of the first big naval battles of the war was the brits wrecking the italian fleet. After that any ship trying to bring oil to africa was a sitting duck.
>>541072679You can be a naziboo all day, and worship the ground they walk on like some kind of weird cultist. The fact remains that Germany causes problems for everyone else in Europe. The other nations went out and made empires and discovered new lands and even new technologies. Germany kinda holed itself up on the mainland, as autistic dorks are wont to do(no at all sociable). And they flung shit everywhere, because Germany was the place where Europe's outcasts congregated together, like the science club in school where all the dweebs with no girlfriends hang out to make explosives and stink bombs to fuck with the jocks, who then proceed to beat their fucking ass. And this happens over and over and over.My ancestors(Rhinehardt) got the fuck out of there in the 1700s and came to America, and did WAY better, because America wasn't a country full of antisocial dorks. Germany is the dork of Europe. Look at the nazi leadership, a bunch of dweebs. Especially Himmler, holy shit what a nerdy dweeb.
>>541072934they literally thought they would be able to win so fast that things like them wouldn't be necessary. They lost the second they thought that.
>>541073190>anyways, now that I'm being treated exactly as I deserve, I'm going to create a strawman to attackBrain damage isn't good for you. Take some pyrantel pamoate.
>>541070697>muh white stock
>>541075154888-8888
>>541072640>mania's oil supplies, but mainly it was to remove Russia from the game which would force Britain to give upthe Russians were supplying Hitler with recourses. Stalin refused to believe that Germany would attack even when the NKVD was convinced an attack was imminent.Hitler was fucking retarded he should have focused on the UK
>>541067706Maybe fighting the entire world on a four front war they didn't want + plan for had something to do with it, dipshit
>>541076462YOU JUST NEED TO BE FUCKING FLUNG OFF A CLIFF, WORTHLESS SACK OF SHIT.
>>541073221Exactly. When German strategic bombers were still an idea, American and British strategic bombers were bombing Germany. The B29 began development in 1939 and wasn't ready until 1944. The first Amerikabomber designs were presented in 1942. By then, it was already too late. The German military suffered from tunnel vision for the entire war: blitzkrieg worked very well in certain scenarios, but outside those scenarios, it was useless. Operation Sea Lion, for instance, would have been an absolute disaster if it had gone forward.
