In Poland you can how go to jail for up to 5 years for speeding. I kid you not. Soon they will run out of prisons
no one is celebrating in poland
This has been on the books since January. What this law does is introduce an ENTIRELY DISCRETIONARY choice for the courts to upgrade excessive speeding from "an offence" to "a crime"."Excessive speeding" had been classified as: 210 km/h on the motorway 180 km/h on express roads 180 km/h on country roads (90 limit)100 km/h in urban areas (50 limit)60 km/h in a "30 zone"The law was presumably made to combat the night racers who end up killing someone every now and then. But the problem with the night racers is that they are wealthy people with political connections, who mysteriously avoid the manslaughter charges anyway. I don't see the point of introducing a strictly discretionary law. If you're a journalist who criticises the government or if you're a businessman who didn't pay protection money to the corrupt police then you will probably be targetted by this law. One of the great flaws of this country is that it has no respect for individual liberty or the rule of law.
>>541071427In Germany you can go 210km/h on a highway legally with no consequences. In Poland you can go to jail for that.
>police stateRookie numbers. America has more prisoners than anyone on the planet. Places with 4x our population still don't have as many prisoners as we do.Get on our level.
>>541071427Mind you, this discretionary law appears to have been passed under the centre left, progressive, free-market government. The christian nationalist, right wing social democrat government which we had until 2023 had been busy passing laws such as "preventive confiscation" and "unlimited detention without trial".It doesn't matter whom you vote for. You get the same.
>>541071533Incarceration rate in Poland is 194 per 100k while in America is 213 among whitesPretty much the same if we exclude niggers and spics. And that's after gov did early release programs that dropped the numbers recently, but is keen on filling them back again apparently
>>541071706Every government wants to tighten the screw even harder after the other, because it serves them, both fractions hate themselves but love the idea of a repressive state with full police control. Most people here are also do not mind that and are the bootlickers.
>>541070657You literally get to fucking shoot illegal assholes, trying to break into your country and you complain about this? Are you a nigger?
>>541071706Note that Nawrocki vetoed the idea of the unlimited pre-trial detention where people are held for years in prison without even being convicted Most people here do not even know much much of a police state Poland is.
>>541072023Wasn't that law passed closer to 2017? Alongside preemptive confiscation?
>>541070657You dipshits that are freaking out about this can't read. It says "extreme cases" if you speed in the US to the point it is considered reckless driving guess what? You will also go to prison. This has been a thing in the US for decades. Are you guys stupid or just can't read? It's both.
>>541070657Is drink driving still legal in poland or have they finally banned that? That was one of my favourite past times when I was on holiday in katowice.
>>541070657This is to catch Ukrainian escapees. It has nothing to do with speeding fine.
>>541072127That was under Ziobro, most of the harsher penalties like 20 years for Łukasz Żak was also thanks to the novelisation in 2023 that passed at the end of PiS government What I'm saying was the reform made during the KO government under Żurek, the law was passed by the parliament but the Nawrocki vetoed it. Ironically the pre-trial detention hurts football hooligans the most and were used traditionally as a method of breaking them.
>>541071506The best part is that this isn't even a "law". It's just an escalation of discretionary privileges for the ruling class. A step closer towards de facto life-or-death power over citizens. Selective enforcement has been codified de jure as the default mode.
>>541072271Interesting. I will have to read into this.
>>541071993Polish cops make American cops seem like angelshttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/vxHjaIGMr5k
>>541072172See>>541071427this guy explained it well, the "extreme" case is not so extreme in realityIt's just another law to threaten people and force full compliance. Poland also recently passed a law where you can go to jail for years for a making a facebook/telegram group where you congregate with cars, assuming you plan to make illegal street racing - without even cars present on the spot.
