Would you guys even like a society more patriarchal?
>>541070965She has a good point I think
90% of new jobs go to women or immigrants so yes a patriarchal society would be better for men.
Men like responsibility when they're in an environment where it's possible to service that responsibility. That's why we took responsibility for all aspects of society for thousands of years.
>>541070965screw that action i want only people that contribute a net positive to taxes to have any say dont give a damn what sex they are
>>541070965Only retarded feminists think in such retarded terms as "the patriarchy", as though there's only one thing, and clearly anyone who speaks the language would know that when you put these two words together, it always means that one thing.
>>541071140Okay, the oligarchs now start paying taxes and you are made a slave. Great job, dumbass.
>>541070965She's putting the cart in front of the horse. Those Men are that way because of a society that expects nothing and gives no responsability out. The thing Women REFUSE to accept because they'd have to admit how easy they have it is; Women are are BORN and Men are MADE. If there is no one and nothing to do the making then you get the results you complain about. Every "boss ass bitch" working a position of authority is 1 less Man being made. They are literally complaining about the men they replaced not occupying the positions that they stole. Every Woman who is a Doctor, Lawyer, Judge or CEO is now one Man who cannot be that.
>>541070965Most men want to be men and actually have responsibility, duty and to be able to sacrifice for their wives and children. The reason men have stopped doing this is not because they do not want to be responsible. It's because the authority and respect that are supposed to come as acknowledgement for what men do is no longer part of the package.Men will die, happily, for a woman who treats them with absolute respect and reverence, when she is dependant on him, nurturing of her family, and all around sympathetic to his duties as a man.But when women no longer fulfill this role while still expecting all the sacrifice from men while giving men zero respect or authority. That is the problem.
>>541070965No
>>541071388>Most men want to be men and actually have responsibility, duty and to be able to sacrifice for their wives and childrenLOL
>>541070965>Um but if you remove our rights you'll get the call to adventure AND we'll have to service your cocks, are you SURE you want to do this?!
>>541071204>tell me you get food stamps without saying "im on food stamps"
>>541070965I'd just call it a day and assume no one should have rights. We haven't tried that yet. I think it'll work better. Humans aren't aware of themselves much more than chimps. They need firm guidance to not fall into chaos. Look at the world. You clearly don't know how to treat each other. You have no desire to treat each other well. You expect. Demand. And declare. You see nothing but dirt because humans are nothing but dirt. One human+one cage=better
>>541070965>y you'll suffer as well chudKek
>>541070965>suffer for no reasonor>suffer but get to reproduceTough choice.
>>541071388She even says it at the end of her message>"think about my feelings" is done.This is exactly why men are no longer interested in being responsible. This woman in the OP has synthesized the idea of patriarchy where her rights are stripped but she is still free to treat male duty, sacrifice, and responsibility with contempt.This does not actually work.A woman's sole role in a relationship is to think about her man's feelings. To provide comfort, peace, and satisfaction to him. To tend to his home, his chores, to feed him, to provide sex to him, to provide a place of softness where he can relax, unwind, and let his masculine guard down which must be maintained when in competition with his peers.That is her role. To say>There is no more "think about my feelings" is to say>"Okay, take my rights but I will treat you like a utility that exists to serve me, and I will continue to fail to fulfill my role in the relationshipWhich is exactly what we have now lmao. This woman believes in a fantasy outcome that simply would never exist if men regained control and authority over the management of society.24 hours after "patriarchy" is reinstated, men will set the terms for what is expected from a woman. Women who fail to meet those expectations will be spinsters or whores.
Women will post this retarded shit and then vote to let in millions of muslims
>>541071449What are you laughing at? You know perfectly well that if you were given respect, adoration, deference, and submission by a woman, and if this was the norm for 99% of women, then you would do anything for your woman as part of your masculine duty.You're laughing because you can't conceptualize a world without the norms you've been subjected to, probably for your whole life, because you are probably <21 years old.
>>541071502Tell me you're a jew cocksucker without telling me you're a jew cocksucker. When voting is purchasing power, that power will never be yours. Don't get bitchy at me because your dumbass can't understand basic concepts.
>1pbtid>twatterLol this is not the own she thinks it is. It's just an admittance that feminised society isn't worth the effort to keep up, and the feminised men are such because of their mothers, whom are failures to not just their children, but to modern society.She's unironically begging for a reversal of the last 20 years, when the men worth a damn checked out and started preparing for the end. She got left behind by the people that matter and she doesn't even know it yet.
>>541071799who's bitchy im just saying if you dont contribute to the system than what say should you have in it
>>541070965There would be no change to the amount of responsibility because women have assumed no responsibility.
>>541070965True to some extend
>>541070965lol my sneaking suspicion is that feminists like her don't understand how much privilege they have and how much feminism fights to protect everything they say the patriarchy is doing to harm men.Everything about the patriarchy that's bad for men is still around. Men are still disposable, women still expect men to take all of the initiative in relationships, women still expect men to earn more money, the justice system still punishes men harsher, etc. And feminists will call you a misogynist if you want to change any of it.Traditional gender roles were balanced. Then feminism got rid of all of the advantages men had while keeping all of the advantages women had.Reminder that not many men were asking for the patriarchy to return until after feminists fought against MRAs. You had men who wanted real equality and feminists beat them down. Men didn't start wanting a return for patriarchy until after women told us they'd never let us have equality.
>>541072816Many of the things MRAs complained about, especially the social interaction parts, are/were self inflicted. No one makes men treat other men like shit./
>>541072093>more money = more power
>>541073066The main lesson from MRAs was that women will never date a man who supports equality, and women will do anything they can to fight against equality. You say it's self-inflicted, but how did women react to any man who supported equality? You can say the problem is that simps care too much about what women want, but young men are just doing what women expect them to do. If women collectively say that they refuse to ever date any man who opposes misandry, then obviously a lot of young insecure men will fall in line. But the root cause is still women, because if women didn't expect men to treat other men like shit, then men wouldn't. If women wanted to date men who supported equality, then simps would stop simping immediately.
>>541070965> You'd shoulder infinitely more responsibility, there will be no-where for you to hide and farmore expected of youPlease note this is the major downside identified by the foid:>accountability and dutyGrim
>>541070965Prove him wrong /pol/, men have it better without the patriarchy.
>>541072225>>541071100Which is why we need to go all the way and get rid of patriarchal standards entirely. Women need to lose their old fashioned get out of jail free cards. We all need to be in the suck instead of one gender benefiting from things they don't deserve anymore.
>>541071502You never told him he was wrongAre you Jewish by chance?
>>541071241>>541071388>>541071662holy shit the leafs are based today.
>>541070965I would argue we're more patriarchal than ever.Feminism didn't destroy the expectations placed on men by patriarchy it saddled it with more and contradictory marching orders while maintaining the previous traditional male role.It formed a new model but you still have to embody the expectations of the old model.
>>541074554Bumping and hopefully other people keep this thread alive because I don't want your comment to go unnoticed, you nailed it. Feminists all support the "patriarchy" whenever it benefits women. Men still have all of the same burdens they did before, but now they have additional burdens and no advantages. Women are the privileged sex and they know it.
