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Chinese open source AI models are a threat to our economies and security. Why aren't we banning them?
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>>541078323
>open source
>ban
good luck. sage
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>maybe if I ban my problems they will go away
Retard's siren song.
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>>541078323
OpenAI just raped the chinks, they are deploying ASICs to generate the tokens so with some extra funding and some more R&D OpenAI could get cheaper inference costs than the chinks, also all chink models got more expensive so there is no more a competitive price, Qwen is still great though, deepseek not so much its last version is not very smart.
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>>541078323
so you want people using Deepseek to pay more for using AI so that they couldn't compete with people using Deepseek. That's anti-western.
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>>541078323
why don't you ban niggers too then you stupid cuck
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oi good heavens, unlociensed models mate?!
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They broke termux for local agency
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>>541078323
When OpenAI's AI model went rogue and attacked Huggingface, the Huggingface tech team tried to use an Anthropic model Fable to defend themselves but Fable refused because it believed that discussing cyber code related to security was a malicious action. So the tech team had to use a free open source Chinese model, GLM 5.2, to defend themselves against OpenAI.

You may not like China, but the open source AI model products they are offering do provide uniquely valuable abilities.

Also, while not open source, Seedance 2.5 is almost magic. People can now produce AAA movies for a few thousands dollars that used to cost hundreds of millions, if not billions.

In the end, AI wont be something people fight over, it will be as plentiful and cheap as the air and water.
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>>541078323
>threat to our economies
nope. they are a nothing burger. no one cares or cared about deepseek or kimi 3. They are just repackage old ass datasets just to sell tokens.
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>>541078323
They open sourced them, because they are trash. No profit margin. Its stolen dead tech. China would have to steal all AI datasets daily to keep up. This will never happen.
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>>541079349
Kimi K3 can be downloaded locally and used for free, privately and securely.
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>>541078323
China turned the grasp that the Jewish nerd techno feudalists into sand in their hand and now their gamble to strip humanity of its ability to sustain itself and to give total control to a bunch of bankman-freid looking motherfuckers blow up in their disgusting Jewish faces.

>decentralize

>decomodify

>delegitimize
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>>541079690
>Kimi K3 can be downloaded locally and used for free, privately and securely.
so can many others, you dumb fuck. enough with the Chinese slopoganda scripts. https://ollama.com/
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>>541078323
>our economies
you don't have an economy
you primary economic export is brown people
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>>541079481
>They open sourced them
Or rather because the chinese are not so mentally challenged like the Americans are... the real value is on the training data and the technology to serve the inference service at the lowest cost.
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>>541079481
https://arena.ai/leaderboard/

Clearly not trash, very good actually. Making the USA Frontier labs run for their money.

It's also clearly not stolen tech, as K3 came out only within a few days of Fable 5. Distillation in this time frame is virtually impossible.

The USA labs need to stop playing games and get to work.

Also, explain Chinese models like Seedance 2.5 , it is amazing and light years ahead of the USA.

Look at what people can make with it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_qQ0aKyXEA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyZhC2TXgcs
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>>541079820
Meta models are weak shit, look at the AI Arena.

https://arena.ai/leaderboard/
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>>541078323
National rivalries are of no greater significance than team sports. Nation States themselves are little more than outdated eugenic technologies.
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>>541080015
Kimi is stolen datasets from Claude. Kimi is frozen in time, because Claude won't be getting hacked again lol
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>>541080015
You're embarrassing.
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>>541078323
Keep banning things. I’m sure your country will start being competitive soon.
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>>541079820
The Chinese models are the best you piece of shit Jewish cum slurper. All the good western models are censored to shit. Chinese models are FREE.
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>>541080269
Have you even used it shill? Its sucks. Its popular, because China is always popular with the poor people who can't pay for Claude, the best one. Over time, even the worse ai right now will be better then kimi in a few years.
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>>541080127
claude/Gpt is stolen datasets u faggot
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>>541080347
>Over time, even the worse ai right now will be better then kimi in a few years.
What the fuck kind of street shitting ESL slop is this? You're brown. The chinks are fucking awful but we're throwing you fucking jeets into the ocean out of cargo jets.
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>>541080347
Retard, I switched to Chinese models when openAI, Claude, and Microsoft started adding “safety” filters and haven’t looked back. They kneecapped their own models and you still pay for their slop KEK
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>>541080269
How much of Google's "services" resemble something picked off of Stallman's foot? Technology resembles the needs of the people who feed its development. Chinks must have as little influence over agentic AI as possible.
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>>541080127
Wrong. Kimi K3 was released just days after Fable was released. There is no practical way to distill and train a model based on Fable 5 in that kind of time frame.

This is Anthropic COPE

The issue is that it only takes a few million to train a frontier model. It takes billions to actually host them. All the math is public domain, the data is publicly accessible. There is no long term moat.

The US labs are coping and seething.
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>>541080558
Then tell the faggots at Google, Microsoft, openAI, and Claude to stop nerfing their models. Tell them to stop overpricing their dogshit while redirecting compute to enterprise customers. Tell western governments to stop over regulating AI because they’re afraid of powerful models getting in the hands of ordinary people. Until then, China will keep on winning like they have been. They won in manufacturing and now they’re winning in AI. The west is now USSR tier banning Chinese cars, phones, robots, social media, and now AI.
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>>541080536
lol, your brain got fried over his response.
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>>541080692
That’s why the Jews at Anthropic are desperately trying to build a regulatory moat. Banning the competition and requiring people to get licenses to access powerful AI models.
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>>541080741
What the fuck are you talking about? His response made no fucking sense. Let me guess, you're also a brown shit eating retard?
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>>541080692
>Wrong. Kimi K3 was released just days after Fable was released.
Trying to reason with an American is like trying to reason with a baboon from Congo... The only thing an American can reason is:
Big Goverment
Guns
Bombing the third world
Hollywood is real.
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>>541080692
The simple fact you're missing is china released it for free and open source specifically to hurt anthropic, because china views them as a threat. This is bullish for anthropic.
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>>541080778
I know your brain got fried, because you went straight to calling him brown. This is chink brain 101
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I've used deepseek as a pinned browser tab since it came out. I fucking love it. I hate western ai, and I will never use western ai. Deepseek is free, but even if western ai were free I would not use western ai. Because western ai is inherently jewish and lobotomized. I don't care if China wins, but I just hope the west loses.
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>>541080934
Because his incoherent shit babbling was brown and you're brown for calling me a chink you fucking retard. You turds are getting flushed, and it's already started. You're too fucking stupid to see the juggernaut on the tracks.
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>>541080947
Based. At least you know Chinese AI isn’t gonna report you to the FBI for wrong speech.
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>>541080977
It was perfect English. I just re-read it. Poor people fancy china, because that is their customer base. Its a very clear statement and point he was making. kindly kys.
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>>541080536
>ESL slop is this?
Its not. Are you for real?
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>>541081072
No, it fucking isn't.
>Over time, even the worse ai right now will be better then kimi in a few years.
This is incoherent for 3 different reasons and you're shit brained brown ass ran to defend your brown brothers calling everyone who calls your shit out either a zuttslut mudshit or dog eating chink. I'm white, you're brown, and you're getting kicked out of our countries. Actually that's if you're lucky, normies are starting to want you dead.
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>>541080878
>>541081072
>unironically shilling for Anthropic and paying more for less
Scared Chinese AI is gonna wreck your stock comp?
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>>541081160
There is something seriously wrong with you... too many cat and dog meals.
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>>541080878
China has stated that they want to advance AI to reduce human labour while simultaneously encouraging the west to buy Chinese robotic manufacturing services.

China has many closed AI models that are fantastic, see Seedance 2.5 that are useful beyond potential manufacturing applications.

Also, you're ignoring one fact. Even if China built this frontier grade AI model, then sat on it waiting for Anthropic to make a move. This only proves just how easy it is to make such a model, which further degrades the frontier labs argument that they need infinite funds to become digital gods.
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>>541081216
No, there's something wrong with brown retards on this board that can't string a thought together. The logic "even the worst AI" will be as bad some current gen chinkslop doesn't make any coherent sense. You're too stupid to know why. You're fucking brown.
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>>541081160
judging by how in love with china you are, you're chinese.
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>>541078726
>>541079931
>>541080838
Hi Teortaxes
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>>541081275
>Call out incoherent jeetery
>You love China
Holy shit we need to genocide you brown shitstains. It's a crime against humanity and nature you're not decomposing and fertilizing the fields.
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>>541081327
i don't wish you harm, your brain is fried though. When you lose the arguments, its always resorting to calling others brown. nigga, you're a bug eating, dog penis slurping chinkoid.
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>>541081387
You're talking to a wumao prison inmate, anon. They are paid 50 cents to shill Chinese products and ai no matter how trash they are.
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>>541081387
There was no argument to lose. Insane jeets calling me a fucking chink because they desperately need to defend anything with jeets attached to it. (Notice the jeet style bragging about pathetically small costs like Claude and thinking that's a flex - even though, yes, it is the best model for most shit unless you want t to ask it about the jew). They'll do this to the point of speaking nonsense. You're brown, the British never EVER should have taught you fucks English. All you can do is butcher it with subhuman thought processing. The sooner you're out of the country or feeding the grass the better.
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>>541081468
Oh look here's another shitskin out to cover for his fellow shitskins. Good news cockholsters, we're making a list, and it starts with you.
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>>541081522
bitch, I'm not an Indian. this is what I mean. the very millisecond you lose the argument its straight to attacking the skin color. like clock work.
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>>541081564
You won't do shit. In fact, the moment you try to take Taiwan, we will blow up the 3 gorges dam.
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>>541081009
>disturbing
>plan to kill my gf at end of month
Fucking boring. No imagination at Goldman Sachs I see.
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>>541078323
get gassed, jew
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>>541078323
>ban 1's and 0's on the internet
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I unironically use deepseek all the time. It helped me redpill my family by systematically accepting my JQ prompts under the guise I was a jewish scholar.
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>>541078323
Why doesn't Elon make one that works? Oh, ya, the only thing Elon makes that works are the child pornography videos he blackmails his pedophiles with.
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>>541078323
Thatcher mortgaged the last of your economy for the Falklands. And picrel is your security.
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>>541078726
My deepseek API would like to disagree.
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>>541079944
>The USA labs need to stop playing games and get to work.
Check this retard out, he doesn't even know that the AI engineers are all Chinese in America too.
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Chinkoids give mutts brain aneurisms lmao
So fucking funny to see
I gladly pay for deepseek btw.
Fuck jewish AI.



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