Why cathcucks defending this shit?https://x.com/CatholicArena/status/2090171135652397380
>>541088020Looks metal as fuck
>>541088020American Protestants openly worship the Jewish state of Israel.
>>541088020>NECROMANCY IS BASED AND TRADBlind leading the blind
>>541088020>FULL of referencesLiterally like 2 references.
>>541088020holy necromancy batman
>>541088020Look up Mount Athos it's full of holy relics they store the skulls lined up on shelves. That's greek orthodox the original church Jesus' direct apostles set up and the only "true" church if you believe in provenance where it should trace straight back to the source in the least amount of steps.
Protestants are basically fake Christians.>no saints>no relics>no apostolic succession>"just read the bible bro" rejection of traditionJust convert to judaism already
>>541088496Now point to where in the Bible does it say you need any of that to find salvation?>rejection of traditionYou sound exactly like the pharisees and what they accused Jesus Christ and his apostles of all the time.
>>541088540You all literally and unironically worship Israel so your points are irrelevant
>>541088020Ooh spooky
>>541088650>I saw some webm where some protestants are praising jews so therefore they must all do itYou are retarded plus you are hiding behind a memeflag, why is that?
>>541088372>greek orthodox>og church>started by same guy who started RC church>in 4th century ADyeah, no
>>541088372The true church doesn't exist anymore.
>>541088020God ordering circumcision is still worse than parading a bejeweled bones.
>>541088496Skulls for the skull throne?
>>541088540>just read the bible broProtestants really think Christianity is about implementing the source code (written many years after the death of Christ) rather than keeping the tradition alive that includes the Bible, but goes back all the way to Christ himself. Complete joke.Also good point >>541088650Why is it that protestants uniquely love Judaism so much? Orthodox and Catholics are nowhere close.
The Baptists were never part of the "Orthodox" church, and were persecuted by Constantine as the Donatists. Baptists were not part of the "Reformation" as didnt want to "reform" the "orthodox" church, they wanted to be left alone by them. Ironically, now they are the only ones holding up the KJV, the most "Anglican" Bible in the world, that the quasi-"orthodox" Anglicans have abandoned. There is no scripture to support paedobaptism. Yet Christendom (not Christians) do it anyway.
>a whole pantheon of saints they pray (((through)))It's very obviously pagan.
>>541088864Catholics were always the most metal religion
>>541088876You know nothing of Christ without the scriptures. >>541088787Every cult leader ever says this. By what measure do you make your claim?
>>541088020Catholicism is Christ's Church.All Protestants need to REPENT and come to Rome.
>>541088876The Scofield study bible (which is pretty much the meta bible for most Protestant sects) explicitly denounces anti semitism and states plainly that when Jesus speaks of “Israel” he means the “Jewish nation” rather than Christendom.
>>541088876Christ never went around waving human skulls. This shit is paganism.
>>541088735>The Greek Orthodox churches are descendants of churches which the Apostles founded in the Balkans and the Middle East during the first century A.D.It's quite literally the disciples of Jesus who went on to found churches that still exist today. You can't get any more direct than that
>>541088965I know.
>>541089081Greek Orthodox is derivative of the RC church just as the Protesters are.
>>541088965>Every cult leader ever says this. By what measure do you make your claim?That's the problem with faith based systems. If your central tenet is ultimately based on "just believe, bro" then you don't really have good arguments against people who "just believe" in different things. If you have two people of the same faith who disagree on something, how do you resolve that dispute? Both of you claim faith-based privilege on objective reality, yet both of you disagree. It's not ultimately a soluble problem.
>>541089212If God exists, it is solvable. If there is one truth, it is solvable. You dont believe he exists, though creation tells you otherwise.
>>541088496Take the Sola pill.
>>541088020part of becoming a mature adult is realizing all the edgy chuuni stuff you liked as a teenager is actually cool
Relics are apostolic, but the Papacy is a dangerous delusion.
>>541088020>Be medieval monk on a walk>Say "Bless you" you to some diseased wretch>Disease clears up soon after>1000 years later some priest finger fucks your skull
>>541089280You didn't answer the question. Let's say you have two people who both believe in God and both believe in the Bible. They disagree on something and both cite the Bible to support their claims. How do you resolve which one of them is making the objective claim on reality and which one, despite his faith, is not?
>>541088020Leave relics to Catholics, okay? Nobody wants to see pastor Randy’s skull.
>>541089061Tjw Schofield Bible is 20th Century Jewish propaganda and none of its commemtary is religiously valid.
>>541088965>You know nothing of Christ without the scriptures.Jokes aside, the fundamental issue with Protestants is not that they think they can just make Open Source FLOSS Creative Common Christianity, but why they believe thay can. It's the same issue that led to the death of God as discussed by Nietzsche.The Catholics and the Orthodox typically believed something on the line of >we are the Christians, our tradition goes back to Christ, and we organize ourselves in such and such waysThey had a segment of society specializing in religion, and through consensus, tradition and religious authority they would keep the tradition alive and guide the community through time.Now, eventually the Catholics fucked up, and concentrated power in the bishop of Rome more and more. That meant they had to lawyer up and nitpick the Bible to justify anything they might have wanted at any given moment. But did the Protestants react by petitioning an Orthodox patriarch to guide them back to OG Christianity? Hell no. The Protestants accepted the premise unquestioningly, they just decided they could outjew the Catholics and treat the Bible exactly how you would use the tax code or your HOA rules. The tradition and practices that shaped how the community understood the message of Christ meant nothing if someone could, book-in-hand, defend the opposite thesis. This is why they are ultimately fallen, the original liberals. Once you accept that you can just jew your way to any conclusion by discussing the Bible like a lawyer, the difference between Luther and a butch lez priest celebrating LGBT weddings is a matter of degree, not kind, always bound to happen sooner or later.
>>541089373You research the claims. You pray to God for the correct answer and make a decision. What you shouldn't do is put yourself in decision paralysis or dismiss everything outright. What's the claim? Why does it make sense? What's the objection? Why does that make sense. Whuch one makes more sense? Can you come to a verdict? If you're deadlocked we'll try it again.
>>541088020Protestants are just jews without the tribe, its also an incredible variant of the faith, it lacks all the beauty of the other ones. Truck stop churches filled with overweight, mixed race mulatto children? Nah im good. I will stick with Catholicism.
>>541088959True that. They do be metal.
>>541088876The source is what is most important because without it nothing else matters. As I said you sound no different than the pharisees putting traditions over the original message whom Jesus Christ got after countless times.>Why is it that protestants uniquely love Judaism so much? Orthodox and Catholics are nowhere close.Must be convient seeing what you want to see while ignoring the truth. It's not a competition because as of now ALL sects of Christianity have been subverted/outright infiltrated by them. https://www.ncronline.org/news/amy-jill-levine-elected-first-jewish-president-catholic-biblical-association
>>541089373There is one God and one Bible. If two Bibles disagree, they cant both be right. They can both be wrong. The one that does not contradict itself is the true. For English, thats the KJB.
>>541089294The Lutherans got everything right. There isnt a single thing you can point to in confessional Lutheranism and say "see? that's wrong". It's Christianity with the refinement of German autism.
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>>541089602>The source is what is most importantThe source is not a book. The source was a particular someone who lived 2000 years ago and founded the Church.
>>541089554>Choosing based on how White the church is>Chooses CatholicismI want to be wherever you are. That's incredible that you found a White Catjolic church. For me, here, all the Catholics are brown and advocate for open borders.
>>541088020Prots, Catholics, and kikes all worship the demiurge so who cares
>>541089552See, that's a strange answer to me. I'm asking you how you know which person in this hypothetical is objectively correct -- not how they come to a consensus or compromise. That's kind of the Bible's deal, right? Through its theology, it asserts a certain, discrete set of objective truths. It describes reality through God and what God wants. You know that this is true because you believe it to be true -- you have faith. The Bible isn't a consensus mechanism or a logic puzzle. It is, ostensibly, literal divine revelation. It's Truth. If it's literally true, then two people cannot draw from it and come to different, equally rigorous positions unless the Bible is tautological. Is the Bible tautological?
>>541089782What do you know in this life that's that simple?
>>541089695He's a spic who thinks he is "white" which is why he used the term mulatto, because mulatto implies negro admixture. There's nothing more shitskin coded than roman Catholicism. They are openly open-borders these days and totally despise Scripture. Every Roman Catholic I've ever met is some voodoo practicing spic goblin who believes in the "evil eye" and shit.
>>541089683Make an actual argument instead of some fedora chart you worthless man.
>>541089099a goy? No Bible? Fuck no
These people are all fucking nuts. And getting nuttier by the day. Everyone's off their gourd and we're going to start open human sacrifices soon. No more hiding behind war and abortion, just take the victim and sacrifice openly. Livestream it.
>>541089536By the way this is what Dostoevsky refers to when he describes the Catholic church as "lowering itself" to the level of a state. The protestants just built exactly on the point the Catholics fell, and discarded the rest.
>>541089683which one resonates with you the most? Mine is the apparent contradiction on the size of the laver sitting on the 12 oxen. But turns out it had an explanation. Very interesting.
>>541089081>(((descendants of)))
>>541089693You cannot separate the Living Word from rhe written word. Both are truth, both are life, both are light.
Ask a spic about the evil eye and the egg. Fucking voodoo monkeys. They are always papist too and worship Mary. They think the trinity is Mary, God and Jesus. Since /pol/ is brown as fuck these days they all know what I'm talking about when I mention the evil eye and the egg, on par with Korean fan death. Won't even get into Santa Muerta. These are the "Trad based Catholic" crusader larpers. Low IQ pagan mongrels.
lmao cut dick mutts big mad
>>541089969Need to sacrifice politicians on the altar of liberty
>>541089842Very little. But I'm not the one making that claim, am I? I don't need the Bible to be a source of objective truth -- you do.
>>541088020>https://x.com/CatholicArena/status/2090171135652397380Satanic idolators. Literally the whore of babylon.
>>541090081You know that's not what's going to happen. It's going to be the purest and most clean people being chopped apart and vivisected live as the masses dance and cheer. Human nature demands it.
>>541088701Your government officials literally cannot stop themselves from saying they worship the jewish state of Israel. Literally every single top official, from Trump, to Hegseth, Marco Rubio and all the grunt workers.
>>541090004The Protestants literally focus specifically on the written word: sola scriptura.Which is really funny when you think about it. The Bible is not the full compendium of what people wrote about Christ, it took centuries before you had a specific selection of sources forming the Biblical canon, and that selection was operated by the same Church the Protestants condemn. I guess it was good enough to decide what the word of God is, but not good enough to comment about it later?
>>541090084Not on counts of horses during bronze age battles or what happened to the silver Judas received for betraying Jesus. The Bible is based on testimony of multiple witnesses which will always result in inconsistency. Which is, ironically, consistent with reality.
If a "tradition" was worth continuing, it would have been added to the Bible. The Bible is literally a complete collection of beliefs that are correct.
>>541090245Sola scriptura is one of five solas of the reformation. The term alone (sola) doesn't mean isolated but superior.For thou only art holy,thou only art the Lord,thou only, O Christ,with the Holy Ghost,art most high in the glory of God the Father. Amen.
>>541088876Christianity is about following Christ. When we trust in Him, He seals us with the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13-14). He baptises us with the Holy Spirit (Matthew 3:11).Following Christ is difficult but it should be marked primarily by loving God and loving your neighbour. In 1 Corinthians 13:1-13 Paul tells us that nothing else matters without love.We are to forgive those who trespass against us. Help those in need. Love God and love our neighbours and even pray for our enemies.Its very difficult to do, but when I see how I struggle with it; how my heart is cold ans full of anger and spite and the desire for revenge... it makes me realise what great mercy Christ had for me. Christ saved us by His offering on the cross; He suffered and died for our sake, even though we are these nasty, violent, selfish little creatures. If He can love me and forgive me after everything I have done; surely I can love my neighbour and forgive those who have done me wrong.Come and follow Christ with me brothers. Let us boast in Him, not in anything else, not in denominations or deeds or history; let us boast in nothing but Christ (Galatians 6:14). To God be the glory!
>>541088540So, do tell, have you found salvation, anon?Are there spicy chicken wings?
>>541088020why don't they focus on the New Testament? oh because jews don't like that
>>541090400So Protestantism is like one big pragmatic debating society?Just like Judaism's rabbis, then?
>>541090555You're putting out a false claim that sola scriptura means we regard scripture and nothing else when it actually means scripture supercedes the papacy or tradition. Everything must have a Biblical reference.
>>541090400It's verbal trickery and nothing more.>Solus ChristusHow do you know about Christ? How can you have any discussion about him for the Protestants? From the scriptures.>Sola FideCop out for having to actually be good, it's why you can be a raging faggot and still think you can be a good Christian, because you "have faith".>Sola Gratia>Soli Deo GloriaLiterally open to interpretation to such a degree that it's forever beyond any reasonable discussion.They eventually all boil down to>Sola ScripturaEventually they all boil down to this one, because it's the only one that can actually be discussed, and it's the whole point. To point at some random verse in the Bible and treat it like the tax code.
>>541090245Recognizing scripture as scripture does not give you claim of ownership to scripture, papist. Additionally, papists have the lowest, most liberal view of scripture imaginable. More liberal than even the rainbow flag, women pastor pozzed Protestant denominations. The only glue holding your institution together is the inertia of tradition, because you utterly despise Scripture.
>>541090305So where exactly is the line drawn between the categories? I'll propose two containers:>counts of horses during bronze age battles>statements describing objective ontological and moral truthsI'm not sweating the first one. My interest is in the second. How do you determine, for any given passage, which is like horse counts and which is describing an objective fact about reality? If we disagree, how do we resolve that disagreement? We can both be wrong, but because we disagree and because the disagreement is rooted in objective fact, we can't both be right.
>>541090420What I don't understand in there is why you need to love the Jews in the process. Really baffling, it's not even just the americans.I saw majority protestant european countries like Finland, in which they put these menorah-like candelabra at the window for Christmas. What is even the point? Why do Protestants larp at being jews?
>>541090685By grace alone we are saved. By Christ alone we have an intercessor. This makes a lot more sense if put into the context that protestants were protesting Roman Catholics for inserting tradition without a Biblical foundation and holding that the papacy determines Salvation. That's why the solas even exist, to protest claims made by the one true church™ that dictated a man's standing with God. Luther deferred the decision back to God.
>>541090658So, like the Jews, each Protestant in the end can use the Bible like a big Scrying Mirror which ... just happens .... to always tell them whatever happens to be most advantageous, whatever they want.
>>541088020Not religious but they've been doing this since jesus kicked the bucket so why is anyone surprised In other breaking news jehovahs witnesses knock on doors when you're trying to eat, mormons are weird cultists, and muslims shout allah and shoot automatic rifles in the air
>>541090796They are the children of the devil, the synagogue of Satan; and a lesson to all men. With God, even the most vile and cruel and men tribe can be righteous; without God those who had many blessings will be reduced to nothing.I don't get the love for jews either. The Bible does not advocate for it. Those nasty people must repent and turn to Christ.
>>541090759>papistJokes aside I like Catholics for the art and metal vibes, but the only real Christians are the Orthodox. Everyone else is misled at best and the actual spawn of the antichrist at worst.>Recognizing scripture as scriptureYour entire belief system depends on the product of the decisions of a Church which you also believe has no fundamental metaphysical value. How do you survive the cognitive dissonance?
I like that part of the bible where Jesus directly calls out mary worshippers.
>>541090869Also jews cut the tip off of penises In case someone here didnt know
>>541090831I understand the historical context, but it just so happens that there is another Church, the original one, that never really bought into papism.
>>541090868Does it really tell you whatever you want to hear or force you to work out your own Salvation with fear and trembling? If you're honest with yourself it's going to admonish a lot of your thinking and behavior.
>>541090796>>541090883>MENORAHCan I ask you what you think this picrel is?The Catholic Altar is (amongst other things) the completed Menorah from the Temple in Jerusalem.
>>541091064>it includes candles so I guess jews
>>541090929wtf? NO! Why? That's disgusting. Why would they do that? I find it hard to believe.
>>541091093Because it doesn't make sense, that's how you know it's the work of the Lord, who transcends logic
>>541091084The Crucifixion is the Central pillar of the (new) Menorah/Altar
>>541088020Christianity is for braindead retards
>>541090906Are you even orthodox? And Lutherans do not deny the existence of the apostolic Church. In fact we are that Church. The apostolic Church exists wherever apostolic doctrine is taught and the Sacrements administered as Jesus prescribed
>>541088276It's not necromancy. Necromancy is the evoking of the spirits of the dead for the purpose of divination. Divination is seeking knowledge of the future.Whatever they are doing in the picture, it might be considered weird or creepy or whatever, but it is not necromancy.Your greentext would be true about pagan beliefs. Necromancy is very trad in paganism.
>>541091156I'm going to have to hold off on that until I've consulted my Bible for confirmation.......FOUND IT! I just opened my Bible at random. And there it was, right there!
>>541091064The purpose of altars is to make an offering, yet the final offering has been given. It was Christ given once for all on the cross. We are told plainly that all offerings before that were but shadows pointing to Christ; the blood of oxen and goats had no power to atone for sins, but that blood pointed toward the precious blood of Christ, which has saved the whole world.I cannot see a need for altars anymore, but if it is used in remembrance of the offering given by Christ I suppose its okay. Ultimately these physical things like the bread and wine are just pointing to the spiritual and efficacious things of Christ; His grace and love, His body and blood. It is good to have the physical reminders, but be careful not to mistake the physical symbol for the genuine offering of Christ. The altar, the wine, the bread; they point us to Christ and help us remember, but they are not Christ, and in and of themselves do nothing.
>>541088020>catholics: gold and skulls and chanting and pipe organs>protestants: some lesbian talking then the gayest rock band in history plays a songtough choice
>>541091202>It's in a place of worship>it has candles>I guess menorahYou are retarded.>>541091286>The apostolic Church exists wherever apostolic doctrine is taughtLmao, truly the OG liberals. Just change the definition of the words until you're right, sure.
>>541091202*Death - is (and always was) the centrepiece of all thought, of all religion and of all Language.
>>541089294Amen!
Attention all noahs ark, burning bush and swarm of frog believersYou are retarded
>>541089683thank you very much
Wow, that's crazy. Didn't read.
>>541090245>hurr durr, we can't read so lutherans are wrong!
>>541091415That's not changing the definition of words. It's entirely scriptural. Acts 2:42, Galatians 1:8-9. The early apostolic church was defined by teaching the pure Gospel, and rightfully administering the Sacrements (Holy Baptism and Lord's Supper). Those who depart from those teachings are no longer within the body of the apostolic church.
>>541090906>the only real Christians are the OrthodoxThis is a silly and false statement. There is one thing the Orthodox are not and that is universal. They are parochial, often nationalist churches, content to withdraw into themselves. The true church is universal because the believers (past, present, and future) are the body of Christ. Hence it intrinsically has an aspiration to universal evangelization. The Orthodox aversion to and disinterest in evangelization is conspicuous. The justifications for the passivity are bunk.
>>541091357>remembrancewords words words blah blah blah - like all the pathological rubbish running through everyones heads all the timeIt's a Real Presence because it is the Presence of the Real (or it is nothing).
>>541091318I just checked Wikipedia its there too
>>541091455You are a retard who truly believe that your ancestors were monkey. Lol.
>>541091415>I guess menorahIt is indeed a redeemed Menorah. It is just too spicy for you at this time.
No religion or anti-religion thread has ever made a single person adopt, abandon, or change religions in the entire history of the internet. Not one single convert one way or the other.The only people willing to argue with you are as deeply entrenched as you are. You sit here all day posting essays at one another that nobody reads. If there is a God he thinks you're all fools for wasting your time like this.
>>541091803Our Lord has finished His work and by it we are who being made holy are counted perfect. It is finished. There are no more offerings. Our Lord said to come to Him and that He would not cast us away. We are told that He will baptise us with the Spirit of God, and that those who trust in Him will be sealed with the Holy Spirit as a guarantee that they are members of the Kingdom until they come into their inheritance.The RCs and EOs and even many Protestants say you must do this and you must do that and then we might splash you with water and then you are saved... until you are not. They say Christ's offering is worth less than your sin, that it must be topped up with your filthy rags if you are to have hope.Jesus told us to remember His blood shed for our salvation, for His body broken out of love for us; He said to remember this when we eat together in the bread and wine.The RCs, EOs and some Protestants say that if you do not eat the bread or drink the wine that their men in hats have made symbols and hand gesures toward; that you will go to hell.Trust in Christ. I think many of these absurdities were originally borne of good intentions, but they have become idolatry that strip Christ of His glory and which rid us of the knowledge of His love and grace and mercy which is our hope and which can be trusted. All glory be to Christ. By His stripes we were saved. In Him we have peace.
>>541092036You have never seen God Almihhty, and you presume to know the thinking of a God? Have you ever be in a position of Power?
>>541088020>woman touches hem of the cloak of Jesus>healed>Jesus applauds her>retarded protties scream that Jesus is rejecting the bible
>>541091701>the protestants fights accusations of being a rabbi quoting the Bible like it was the tax code by lawyering up, taking the Bible, and using it like it was the tax codelmao
>>541088020This looks hardcore and way cooler than monster trucks or some play for zoomies that disgusting protestants have in the Bible belt
>>541092105I'm leaving this thread now. Repent to any God you choose for being a moron and wasting the gift of life on a pursuit even more trivial than normal 4chan posting.
>>541092084>Jesus repeatedly: repent>retarded protties like you: ah ha! you repented! that means you don't have faith and aren't saved
>>541092178I will not leave. I will fight tooth, and nail to all anti-christ shitter and I will condemn all of them to eternal damnation.
>>541092148Jesus told us her faith healed her. The physical is useful but it is not what saves us. This is what we are told about the sacrifices in the Old Testament in the book of Hebrews, and more generally helps us understand the water baptism and the eucharist. The water, the wine and the bread do nothing in themselves; but they point to Christ, whose blood has made us clean and seen us spiritually reborn. It is Christ and His offering on the cross that are efficacious. Those things which point to Him are useful as symbols and helpful as metaphors; the water to wash away sin or the food that nourishes and keeps us alive; but it is Christ who in truth provides these wonders, not the bread.Do not misallocate the power or the grace. It is not in bones or cloaks or artifacts; but in Christ Himself, accessed through faith. These relics and rituals can help our faith, assuage doubts, and clarify our understanding; but it is Christ who is the power, and it is by our faith that we access it; though this very faith is itself a gift from Him, so all glory is His.
>>541088194This
>>541091733>They are parochialThey should be. The real Church is parochial. Have a look at where that word even comes from. Continent-wide abstractions are a Church of institutions, but the real Church is first of all the actual community, the church that gets people to go through life in their human, actual world, not abstract laws meant for an abstract individual that doesn't exist.Again, protestants confirmed as the OG liberals. The whole idea that the faith should be fully abstracted from the life of the actual, specific community is where liberalism begins, it's the core of the idea of a Universal Man, a Default Theoretical Human that you can write laws for and somehow expect them to work. Once again, there is a straight line between Luther and a lesbian priest celebrating the marriage between two men based on her lawyering of the text.
>>541088285>2 referencesMore than enoughSola scriptura Nooo, not like that
>>541088020>religious people don't know what they are even believing inSky is blue
>>541092386Everyone lawyers the text -- just with varying degrees of honesty and self-awareness.
>>541088496>Just convert to judaism alreadyThat's antesemetic. Judaism is reserved for ze chosen ones goy. Rest of you filthy goys can get discount judaism like pisslam and prootestantism.
>>541088896Paul is said to have baptized entire households in the Bible. Are children not part of the household? If they weren't baptized, wouldn't it say all but the children of the household were baptized?
>>541092435The tradition is what saves you from dealing with the text like it's noting but legalistic arguments.
>>541089294Faith aloneFAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEADNoooo not like thaaatBut Sola ScripturaNooooo, not that scriptura , only the part that I like - selective taking. Kek.
>>541088496Protestantism was the precursor of atheism
>>541088020Nigger, christians have been worshipping the holy fucking prepuce (jesus' foreskin) that they lost during the 1900sFor fuck sake how is this new to ANYBODYThe covid vaccine clearly has rotted every single white person's brain Also>twitter screenshot
>>541088876The bible is a bulwark against the traditions of men, you are a Pharisee.
>>541092511Sure, but that's just pushing the epistemic question outwards however many generations. The question of interpretation still exists -- you just choose to resolve it in a way which hides the problem behind what dead guys probably said about it way back when.
>>541088735>started byHoly Aspostles Filled with and Guided by The Holy Spirit i.e. God Himself
>>541088020based in nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti amen
>>541092084>Jesus told us to remember His blood shed for our salvation, for His body broken out of love for us; He said to remember this when we eat together in the bread and wine.>The RCs, EOs and some Protestants say that if you do not eat the bread or drink the wine that their men in hats have made symbols and hand gesures toward; that you will go to hell.The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying: How can this man give us his flesh to eat? Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day.For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him. As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father; so he that eateth me, the same also shall live by me. This is the bread that came down from heaven. Not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead. He that eateth this bread, shall live for ever. These things he said, teaching in the synagogue, in Capharnaum.Many therefore of his disciples, hearing it, said: This saying is hard, and who can hear it? But Jesus, knowing in himself, that his disciples murmured at this, said to them: Doth this scandalize you? If then you shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that quickeneth: the flesh profiteth nothing. The words that I have spoken to you, are spirit and life. But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning, who they were that did not believe, and who he was, that would betray him.And he said: Therefore did I say to you, that no man can come to me, unless it be given him by my Father. After this many of his disciples went back; and walked no more with him.John 6
>>541092635>>541092629>>541092625>>541092605>>541092594Do do evangelicals worships kikes and Fecaloids?
>>541088020>jew worshippers proving they're in a jew-adjacent dearh cultOh look, its a day ending in Y.
>>541088787>The True Churchis Orthodox
>>541088496>playing with corpsesanon it doesn't get more jew-coded than that, stop coping.
>>541092561True faith leads us to being baptised with the Holy Spirit as per Ephesianz 1:13-14. The Holy Spirit is a good tree and must bear good fruit.Therefore the man who has faith has the Holy Spirit, and the man who has the Holy Spirit produces good fruit, and good fruit in men is good works; therefore the man who has faith has good works, and if he does not; his faith is not real, it is dead.The fruit and the works themselves contribute nothing to our salvation; they are a consequence of it. The Holy Spirit is only in us when we are already saved. He then produces good works in us as this is His nature and it is a sign to all others.Note; we cannot always see what the Holy Spirit is working in others. You may bump into a man in the streer, and he will rudely grunt and mutter and walk away. You might doubt such a man can be saved; yet in truth this man, once so angry and hateful and prone to violence, has been convicted by the Holy Spirit, and where he once desired to assault you for the collision, he now finds himself constrained by the love of God, and so walks on; imperfectly he mutters to himself, but his violent nature has been suppressed, and God's will has been done instead of his.
>>541092847See, this stuff is just cringe. I get that you like the KJV, but it's not the 16th century anymore (or whatever). You don't have to take this stilted, rapturous tone. It worked in the Bible because -- well, to be honest -- it's well-written. KJV stands often on its own as a genuine work of artistic literature. But what you're doing is like... you know those teenagers who read a bit of Nietzsche and start writing as if everything they say has this deep and transcendent gravitas? What you're doing reminds me a lot of that -- like you put the cart in front of the horse and think the sights and sounds of profundity are themselves profound. It's just not correct kek
>>541088876>Orthodox and Catholics are nowhere close.Orthodox usef to have a special sermon during The Holy Week in which they curse jews for killing The Christ. It was modified after orthodox countries joined the EU but the tradition is still held in monasteries and in Serbia. Dunno about Russia.
>>541092652Read the whole chapter. Jesus has just miraculously fed thousands bread. He tells us many are following Him because they want more bread, not out of faith. He says to them that they should seek after the bread of life, which is believing in Him. They even asked what they have to do, and He says believe in the one God has sent. The metaphor of bread is for belief here. He even says clearly 4 times among the bread metaphors that all who believe in Him will be saved.The whole event takes place in John 6, and has nothing to do with the Lord's supper (therefore it is not the eucharist). John's last supper account does not even include Jesus telling us to eat and drink the bread and wine in remembrance of Him.Jesus also uses metaphors for faith regularly. When He is at the well, He refers to Himself as living water. When the sun is rising in the morning He calls Himself the Light of the World. I imagine His allusions to shepherds and sheep were also to help people understand as they were in the vicinity of sheep and shepherds. With fishermen He tells us their evagelism will make them 'fishers of men'.Read the Bible in context and read all of it. God bless.
>>541089602>The source is what is most importantand wrote a New Code."For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins."
>>541089079>Christ never went around waving human skulls. His Apostles did - Saint John The Baptists head.And you're not Christ>>541089079>This shit is paganism.Only to fanatical judaizers like you.It is settled Jews and their bootleg judaism versions - pisslam and prootesrantiam need to be eradicated.
>>541088735>cúcktestantism>true church>started by some guy named Martin Luther sans-Kang Sr>12 centuries laterlmao
>>541092386>The real Church is parochial.Only in the limited sense that would also require clarification. Obviously every community of believers has a parish. Whoop-de-doo. A parish is a cell of the Church, not the whole Church. >Have a look at where that word even comes from.This as well as your above claim are sophistry. You know perfectly well I meant the word in a wider sense, but of course you deliberately twist it as if I meant it to be dismissive of parish life. Try arguing with more honesty.>The whole idea that the faith should be fully abstracted from the life of the actual, specific communityThe whole idea... that is really your own idea that you force on a group of people because it fits your argument. It's intellectually dishonest. Do you even go to church, bro? Or is it you whose Christianity is an abstraction? Really makes you wonder because yours is a very strange accusation from a Christian of any kind who lives in a physical place and attends church. Churchgoing Protestants are not "abstracting" anything of the sort what you're claiming. They live in a parish, but they take the gospel outside of it and evangelize. Seems like you're more interested in some kind of "liberal" vs "conservative" cultural battle than anything to do with faith. The irony here is that Orthodox ideas about evangelizing rely on abstracting the concept of evangelization into being evangelical just by existing as witnesses. "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature." said Jesus. Relying on Orthodox missions, the very few that ever were, the gospel would never have reached as many places it has, no matter how much Orthodox churches witnessed in their back garden.Likely the Orthodox tendencies are at least partially related to Muhammadan expansion and a lot of Orthodox and other Eastern churches living in an environment where they weren't allowed to evangelize.
>>541092605>muh PhariseeSola scriptura is a real bitch. You are either forced to basically go full Amish and tailor your level of complexity to still work with the scriptures, or you have to accept that you can interpret them, but then everyone starts to do it in their own way and you have no substantial argument to say that gay churches are just fundamentally wrong.
Christianity was the wwe and anime of peasants, we have better entertainment nowadays
>>541088174Damn straight. What is the only teligion that can kick the devil's ass when someone is possessed.
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>>541092625There will always be essentially an ongoing, generational conversation between people.The difference with protestants is that they believe they can just reset it from scratch based on the logs left roughly 1500 years ago.
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>>541093008>tradition is still held in monasteries and in Serbiabefore or after gay orgy?
>>541088020>Catholicism - 110 AD>Protestantism - 1517 ADPick your jewish poison
>>541093267Oh I see, you emphasis is on evangelization specifically. Regardless of the various "NO U" in the rest of the post. Are you coming to this as an actual evangelical protestant?
Can you remember the exact words your friend said to you years ago? The apostles had great memory.
>>541092847>man who has faith has good works, and if he does not; his faith is not real, it is dead.The Good Samaritan did not have faith per jewish Law but had works.>True faithShow me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.You can do works without having faith and you're a true follower of Christ. You can have faith and do no works and you'd be just like the Pharisee and the Levite - leave Christ for dead on the side of the road. Then you'll start screeching when Christ will tell you - Get away from I don't know you.Faith without works is dead and dead faith does not save.Prots are per verso i.e. perverts just like faggots.
>>541093523>Catholicism - 1054 ADFtfy>Orthodox Christianity 313 AD>jewish poisonNuh-uh. Greek stoicism plus zoroadyrian elements plus new interpretation of measianic judaism and some elements of temple judaism - in itself mixtures of various other ancient religions - egyptian, babylonian, assyrian, canaanite, persian heavily modified by inbred jewish retardation and murderous psycopathy.
>>541093671Repent immediately.Romans 3:19-28:Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.
>>541093472>tradition is still held in TRUE monasteries i.e. without protestant faggotry and in Serbia
>>541093924Romans 4:1-8:4 What then shall we say that Abraham our father has found according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” 4 Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt.5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, 6 just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works:7 “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven,And whose sins are covered;8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord shall not impute sin.”
>>541093949Galatians 2:16knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.
>>541088020>LOSING THEIR MINDS Anyone who uses slanderous Jew-language like that is benefiting from lies somewhere. >>541088372Greek Orthodox is probably closer to the original but I'm not fond of this Europeanization of Abrahamism in general, if I were to attend a church I would want to go as close to the source as possible which would mean Syriac Orthodox but even then it's a relic of the Roman Empire days.
>>541093924>Repent immediately.I'll stick to works i.e. good deeds thank you very much.By works we don't mean the works of the mozaic law i.e. jewish rites but the deeds of a True Christian - good deeds.We each sow our own crops and we will reap what we sow - individually that is.So fuck of and don't come near myfields or my crops! Fucking cricket!
>>541093671Luke 18:9-14: Also He spoke this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other men—extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.’ 13 And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me a sinner!’ 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.”Your only hope is faith in Christ and His grace. It is certainly not in just works. It is not even in faith plus works. It is only Christ.
>>541093949>>541093992Sola scriptura, right?Faith without works is dead.Pilpul all you want. Not going to change facts.Cope and seethe.
>>541094096Brother you are in danger. We must trust in Christ alone. There will be works and good deeds as a result of the Holy Spirit but they do not save us. Christ did. Christ did it all.Please trust in Christ. Do not trust in your works, in your church leaders, in your water baptism or your having eaten bread and wine. Trust in Christ and His offering on the cross. Boast only in Him.Galatians 5:4-5:You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. 5 For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.Galatians 6:14:But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
>>541093949>But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, 6 just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works:10As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:11There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.>blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works:So >blessednessMeanimg God blessed him bc so He pleased so that's an exceptuon rather then the rule.Faith alone works only when God Himself blesses you, everybody else put your elbow into it and WORK!
>>541094305We are ALL blessed through Jesus brother.Galatians 3:1-14:3 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed among you as crucified? 2 This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh? 4 Have you suffered so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain?5 Therefore He who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you, does He do it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?— 6 just as Abraham “believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” 7 Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. 8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, “In you all the nations shall be blessed.” 9 So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham.10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.” 11 But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for “the just shall live by faith.” 12 Yet the law is not of faith, but “the man who does them shall live by them.”13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”), 14 that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
>>541088496Funny, for over 400 years the church was iconoclastic, then pagan influence led to more and more icons finding their way into churches and after a while the heathen influenced church declared iconoclasm to be heresy. So according to the catholic and orthodox churches the first 400 years of christianity were based on pure heresy. Very convincing.
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>>541093940.
Christianity is the subversion.
>>541094941what about pisslam and judaism?
>>541088020Yeah, it's all about preformative rituals, because listening to a priest give a sermon from a book for hours is dead fucking boring, and they know it.
>>541088276>necromancyJesus is the strongest necromancer in the Bible so i don’t see the issue. In fact christians should study necromancy to get closer to him.
>>541088496"Look my love for the Jew on the stick is bigger than yours."Jews cook sucker mentality
>>541088020Lol the Old Testament is full of references to Jews engaging in Canaanite idolatry and getting punched in the dick because of it.
>>541088020Anon, we literally had a 30 year religious war over this all over Europe. Protestants split from Catholicism precisely because of idolatry and profitmaking from selling salvation.Then you took a good thing and turned into Evangelical cult that idolises kikes and sells salvation for money. We need another religious war.
Who banned money lending for Europeans, funneled the power exclusively to Jews and thus created the foundation of the financial dominance we see today?Christians.It wasnt a decision. Christianity was designed for this sole purpose, to put europeans ("goyim" = "cattle") in a slave caste for their masters.
>>541095598The og prots were commies. Which is why Martin Luther originally wanted to team up with them. But the jews said they wouldnt convert. Then hundreds of years later. Mr Marx converts his family to protestantisim and raises his family christian. Why did Mr Marx pick protestantisim over catholicisim if he was just lying about converting? Why was Karl Marx raised prot?
>>541089373>How do you resolve which one of them is making the objective claim on reality and which one, despite his faith, is not?if the citations genuinely support both claims, then the contradictory evidence for both claims in the same bible suggests that the bible itself has failed as a text which can provide evidence for objective claims on reality, at least in this specific instancenow that does NOT serve as an argument to undermine their belief in God - God is not the bible, even IF the bible is panentheistically a subet of God - but being intellectually honest men they'd be forced into questioning the validity of the text: the specific books they were individually citing to substantiate their claim at a minimum, but possibly even the entire anthology
>>541088020Catholic is the real Christianity.
>>541095940You’re not white, you’re walking jewish malware.
>>541088194>American ProtestantsEvangelicals are not Protestants. they are a wholly fabricated Rothschild sect unique to the century ago isolated American people that had Scofield's Rothschild bible foisted on them
>>541095641>Christianity was designed for this sole purpose, to put europeans ("goyim" = "cattle") in a slave caste for their masters.completely full retardkikes had to invent islam in order to reestablish actual slavery.your meme is just reprinting someone's opinion regarding State actors when the internet didn't exist.
this is normal???
>>541096014There are evangelicals who are not dispensationalist. The terms have different meanings. Scofield was a dispensationalist and his annotations push those perspectives (zionism, pre-millenialism, pretribulation rapture, dispensations/different modes of salvation in different eras (which is why they are zionist, they think God only really cares about jews and that this dispensation of grace is a short term anomalous punishment for the jews from God where non-jewe can be saved)).The alternative view is Covenant theology which posits that everything was always leading to Christ and that God always intended to redeem all the nations; which is honestly quite obvious from many verses in Scripture, but especially the book Hebrews where it talks about the sacrificial system of old doing nothing in itself but being a shadow that points to Christ whose blood will save the whole world. It shows that everything has always been building up to Christ, that rather than being a different dispensation where animal sacrifice atoned for sin; it instead referenced faith in the promised messiah who was to save the whole world through His sacrifice. It was this faith in the promised one that saved even in the Old Testament; it was not the law.
>>541095777>The og prots were commies. Which is why Martin Luther originally wanted to team up with them. But the jews said they wouldnt convert.more full retardin reality, Luther started out ignorant of talmudic scripture and kike behavior.> Why was Karl Marx raised prot?why would you believe that lying kikes were being faithful at all?it's a fact that kikes regularly pretend to be things that they are not in order to give themselves cover against rightful scrutiny of kikes.
>>541088496>Just convert to judaism alreadyTrust me nigger I would if there was a way.
Christ is not King, Christ is the deception.
>>541096483>>541096337
>>541088496Modern Catholicism was created in the 1960s by actual gay jews.Now they have them openly rewriting their version of the bible too.
>>541088020>HOLY SHIT A SERMON NOT RELATED OF 100% JEWISH WORSHIP???!!! AIEEEEEEEE LUTHERBERG SAVE MY SOUUUUUUUUUUUL
>>541088020This looks like worshipping of a person (very satanic) and disrespecting a piece of someone who should be resting/buried under ground.Im not even a christcuck but whatever that is is kinda cringe
>>541088020>Protestantsmust burn at the stake.
>>541088020>caring what prots thinklol ok retard.
>>541088020catholicism is basically jewed paganismhere you can go literally anywhere and you'll find locals worshipping their own literally who saint protector, which is basically the equivalent of a local deity, with events dedicated to themit's a shame that our old pagan religions got jewed this way, but still better than protestantism which is basically a return to christianity's jewish roots
>>541088020Golden cal..Idol worship is based go..guy
>>541098023How did you get from: love your neighbour, pray for your enemies, forgive those who trespass against you; burn to death those who disagree with you?
>>541088020>but muh mormons are the weird culty onesholy fuck mormonism has nothing on this.
>how does it happen that eighteen apostles are buried in Germany when Christ had only twelve?" - Martin Luther
>>541088020Roman Catholicism is a pagan religion.
>>541088787Jesus IS the church.
>>541094225>Do not trust in your works, in your church leaders, in your water baptism or your having eaten bread and wine. How devilishly jewish of you. No thanks I'mma gona trust CHRISTs Holy Baptism, CHRISTs Holy Eucharist, CHRISTs Holy Church, CHRISTs Holy Priests CHRISTs Holy Cross and CHRIST HIMSELF who clearely told me through the voice of His Holy Apostle Saint James whom I trust, believe and listen to "Faith without works is dead".>Trust in Christ and His offering on the cross.The Holy Eucharist is His offering on The Holy Cross>brother you are in dangerIndeed. You are the danger oh, wicked one! I will not listen to you who try to severe me from Life itself - CHRIST and His Holy Church.>works of the lawAgian with the law. Are you retarded - not an insult but a neurological problem - i.e. are you linguistically / understanding impaired or just a disingenous wicked man trying to lure people into perdition?THERE IS NO MORE (((jewish))) LAW.Law has gone betty bye-bye. New Law is in effect i.e. New Convenant i.e. NEW TESTAMENT.WORKS ARE THE GOOD DEEDS as PER GODs PLEASURE and INSTRUCTIONS - Love thy Close to You. And who is my Close To Me? Out of those three - the pharisee, the levite and The Good Samaritan who do you think was his Close To Him?See? Easy peasy lemmon squeezy!Renounce your bootleg judaism if you know what's good for you or stick witj it and suffer the consequences. Up to you!
>“The most absurd stories are also told respecting the manner in which various pieces of the cross were conveyed to the places where they are now shown; thus, for instance, we are informed that they were brought by angels, or had fallen from heaven. By these means they seduce ignorant people into idolatry, for they are not satisfied with deceiving the credulous, by affirming that pieces of common wood are portions of the true cross, but they pretend that it should be worshiped, which is a diabolical doctrine, expressly reproved by St Ambrose as a Pagan superstition.” - Calvin
>>541088020it's all made up. desperate people seeking for answers they can't know and they can't accept. sad you science and religion cultists can't just see existence as what it is.
>“Now let us consider how many relics of the true cross there are in the world. An account of those merely with which I am acquainted would fill a whole volume, for there is not a church, from a cathedral to the most miserable abbey or parish church, that does not contain a piece. Large splinters of it are preserved in various places, as for instance in the Holy Chapel at Paris, whilst at Rome they show a crucifix of considerable size made entirely, they say, from this wood. In short, if we were to collect all these pieces of the true cross exhibited in various parts, they would form a whole ship's cargo.”
the cathedral of Lourdes in France is quite open about the plenary indulgence policy for visiting relics:>“The Church intercedes with a plenary indulgence where the person must complete the indulgence act (in this case, visiting the relics), go to confession and communion (within ten days on either side of the indulgence), and pray for the intentions of the Pope. When we do these things and truly show we have taken to heart what we have done, a plenary indulgence is granted.”
>>541094482>We are ALL blessed through Jesus brother.WRONG.Not ALLThat right there is your mistake and a very foolish one as it is highly Arrogant.You act like a presumtuous prick !
THIS IS ODDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQKZvQwru10
>>541094648>>541094888>>541094996There are traitos in every House.Purge them! Do you still curse the jews on Holy Week?
>>541094941>Protestantism is the subversion.Ftfy
>According to the Roman Catholic Church, the so-called “Holy Nail” was stored in Milan’s fourth-century basilica until the current cathedral was built. Every year since 1624, the Holy Nail is removed from its reliquary by the archbishop of Milan. This is where it gets bizarre. The archbishop himself steps into a wooden contraption in the form of a cloud decorated with angels and is hoisted up forty meters to where the Holy Nail is kept. He then removes the nail from the reliquary and places it into a small cross. He is then lowered and says a mass. The cross containing the nail is then paraded around the cathedral.
>>541099207Matthew 5:17: >Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.The law is still good. God did not decide that something was good then but not good now. He did not introduce a new law. Romans 4 and Galatians 3 use Abraham as the prime example of saved by faith alone, and Abraham came before Moses; before the law. It is speaking of God saving us VS us saving ourselves. The reality is Jesus saved us and that His offering is worth more than any amount of sin we could ever do; trust in Him and we are saved. Completely. The law made us aware of our sin and condemned us. It made us realise we fall short of the glory of God.So God in His love sent His Son to save us when we otherwise had no hope. This was achieved on the cross. There is no condemnation for those of us who are in Jesus.
>>541088285Read it again assuming your not a Jew trolling.
>>541099517>Do you still curse the jewsevery day!
>>541095940>Catholic is schismatic>Orthodox is the real Christianity.Ftfy
>>541088020>Church founded by Jesus Christ>worships old testamentGoyim are all going to hell
>>541096014>ProtestantsAll protestants are judaist and judaizer and here lirs the problem.When people say abrahamism what they actually mean is mozaism/judaism with its 2 bootleg variants - protestantism for white goys and islamism for nigger goys.
>“It is claimed that the head of St. John the Baptist is in Rome, although all histories show that the Saracens opened John’s grave and burned everything to powder. Yet the pope is not ashamed of his lies. So with reference to other relics like the nails and the wood of the cross—they are the greatest lies.” (Martin Luther's Works, Vol 54.131)
>>541090216Lol, how far down Ted's throat do you think Bibi rammed his cock?
>>541096483>Christ is Kingand the jews fucking hate to the point they go above and beyond their ways in order to subvert Him by making Him a simple prophet aka a simple man.
>>541098023>>Protestants>must burn at the stake.Agreed. Together with jews and muslims
>>541088020Does the skull have magic powers?
>>541098930>love your neighbour36Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves? 37And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.
LMAOdoes this work?
>>541100070priest who sell those
>>541088020What happens when the skull is placed into the statue’s head?
>>541099601>The law is still good.And the jrw reveals himself.NO the law WAS good, NOW IT IS FULFILLED i.e EXPIRED, TERMINATED, NO LONGER IN EFFECT.Thay is why we don't use circumcision anymore amongst others.You're trying to run an old script on a NEW OS. Not compatible.So it crashes.That is why people hate you.And for good reason.
>if you pay 5000 rubles you will resurrect!
>>541099650>every day!Sarcasm!Go back to the Holy Orthodox Church!And keep the Liturgy right.
>>541099757Ironically the thing judaizers were anathematised for is claiming faith in Christ alone is not enough. Which is the Catholic position today. It is the Catholics who are judaizers.Judaizers said you need to be circumcised as well as trust in Christ. Catholics say you need to be splashed in water, you need to eat the consecrated bread and wine, and you must never miss mass or you lose your grace, and you must confess all your sins to a priest (not our High Priest Jesus but a regular man in a hat); as well as have faith.Jesus said that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but shall have eternal life. In some places it does mention repentance, which means changing our mind, and signifies turning away from sin and toward Christ. In some places it mentions baptism, baptism means immersion, and in Matthew 3:11 John the Baptist tells us that Jesus will baptise us with the Holy Spirit; and in Ephesians 1:13-14 Paul explains we are sealed (baptised) with the Holy Spirit when we hear the Gospel of our salvation and trust in Christ. In Acts 10 we see this in action; they hear Peter preach the Gospel, trust in Christ, and immediately are baptised with the Holy Spirit. They are then baptised with water AFTER they have the Holy Spirit (which is the guarantee of their salvation).We are saved by Christ alone through His offering on the cross, which is given by grace alone which means we cannot do anything to earn it, it is 100% an undeserved gift, and we receive this gift through faith alone.
>>541088020I really don't understand the criticism of this, it seems perfectly normal to me.Are americans really this thin-skinned? They seem to be outraged by the mildest things.
>>541100070>cream of the sloping apostoles...wtf is this? orthodox sloppy seconds?
>>541088020>>541088174>>541088959catholics should do more of this metal shit instead of advocating for migrants
>>541099858Yes
>>541100130Oh so its okay to murder, steal, commit adultery, worship other gods, make idols now is it? You Catholics need to read your Bibles man. The stuff you come out with is illogical and often completely blasphemous.Here is Paul's summary of the Gospel when he is condemning the false gospel of the Galatians.Galatians 2:16:>knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.
>>541100245>https://x.com/CatholicArena/status/2090171135652397380whats with this zombie religion
>>541088194disgusting... but to be fair: the church is subverted by kikes and commies
>>541088174>Looks metal as fuckfpbp/thread
>>541100223>Ironically the thing judaizers were anathematised for is claiming faith in Christ alone is not enough. Which is the Catholic position today. It is the Catholics who are judaizers.Low quality pilpuling - no u.It's not about the law anymore. That's extinct. For the milionth time - works are good deeds not rituals of the law.That's not why they were anathemized for you word twisting lying serpent!Faith alone is not enough IT NEEDS GOOD DEEDS i.e. works NOT of the law which is fulfilled and hence out of use.Thay is why they were anathemized.Bc judaizer were partly like you - faith plus works of the law.When in reality is good deeds translated as just works and faith.Faith alone was just Saint Peters way of combating jewish law ritualic practices.It was misunderstood by some like you who took it literally so Saint James had to step in and correct them works meanimg good deed like the Good Samaritan did.And no that which you wrote is not the position of the Catholic Chrurch but what I said is.And you just stated the law is still good. Liar!
>>541101165This. Works do not earn salvation by merit, but they follow faith. A believer who does nothing for his fellow man is a hypocrite and a liar. > Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me
>>541101165>it means works not of the lawSo again, Romans 4 and Galatians 3 which are contrasting faith against works; mention Abraham. Abraham was BEFORE the 10 commandments and the Mosaic law. Therefore it makes no sense for the criticism to be pitting Abraham's faith against a law which at the time did not exist; instead it is clearly referring to Abraham's belief being enough, not his obedience. This is further clarified in Romans 4 with the issue of circumcision; Paul asks rhetorically, was Abraham justified only after he had obeyed God's command and been circumcised? Or was it when He believed God before he obeyed and did the circumcision. He tells us; not after, but before. He was justified by his faith, not his obedience.The law itself not suddenly bad, God does not now suddenly not care about murder, adultery, theft, idolatry, etc. The law remains good. But we have all fallen short of the law, which proves to us that we have fallen short of the glory of God and are dead in our sins. Romans 3:19-30 covers this. Our obedience cannot save us because we cannot be perfectly obedient. No one will be justified by the law, that is: obedience. That is what we are told.How then are we justified? By faith. As it says clearly in many places.A consequence of this faith is being baptised by Jesus with the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit being a good tree must produce good fruit, and therefore will produce good works in us. So we agree completely with James; faith without works is dead. Faith must lead to works. Works do not save us though, Jesus alone saved us. Works are a consequence of us being saved; they are the fruit of the Holy Spirit in our lives, and the Holy Spirit is given to us when we hear the Gospel and believe in Jesus, as shown clearly in Ephesians 1:13-14.
What's the chance that it's just some random peasant's skull and not who it's supposed to be?Like the fact that in catholic iconography the apostles all had 5 heads, 30 toes and enough bits of the true cross to rebuild Noah's ark.
>>541088020>old testament so it's ok Kk so don't eat pork, shellfish, cut your hair, get tattoos, allow women the right to vote, legalize slavery, child sacrifice, etc...Lmfao fucking faggots
>>541100352>Oh so its okay to murder, steal, commit adultery, worship other gods, make idols now is it?Didn't you lying sob said that faith alone saves you? Well, have a little faith baby!And no it is not ok to all that and those ate called works. You refrain from murder, steal, commit adultery, worship other gods, make idols(in the proper sense not icons sgmbols and so on). Those are your works.>You Catholics need to read your Bibles man. Orthodox here and yes both us and the schismatics have read and UNDETSTOOD our bible all 79 and 73 books of it respectively. You should try that too especually the understanding part.>The stuff you come out with is illogical and often completely blasphemous.For an arrogant pride filled fanatical legalistic cryptojew like you? Absolutely. And I would have it no other way.>Here is Paul's summary of the Gospel when he is condemning the false gospel of the Galatians.>Galatians 2:16:>>knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.Again with this? WTF you prots are brainwashed. Try and understand what you read you cryptokike WORKS of the LAW not JUST WORKS. You people need a fucking g 3D Sculpture as a dictionary.
>>541101407Bravo! Well said!
>>541101843Your contention is that the works of the law which are no longer important to salvation based on the verses that contrast works against faith are:EVERYTHING in the Old Testament.I have responded not just by pointing out that the solution given is always FAITH, not 'FAITH and other good deeds that specifically were neer mentioned in the Old Testament'; but even by showing that these laws like the 10 commandments cannot be what is being contrasted with faith, because the example used in places like Romans 4 and Galatians 3 is Abraham; who is before all the law. The only example we are given with him is that of circumcision with God commanded him to do; and yet Paul SPECIFICALLY says that Abraham was justified by his faith, not his obedience; that he was justified when he believed God BEFORE he had done the circumcision, not after.Contextually, I would say it is actually OBVIOUS and CLEAR that the Scriptures are contrasting obedience unto God against faith in God. What is being said is that we have all helpless sinners. Jesus Himself describes this in His sermons, telling that those who are angry have committed murder in their heart, those who look upon a woman lustfully have committed adultery in their heart. We are all sinners, and would be without hope; were it not for Jesus our Saviour, who did what we could not do, and by His offering alone we are counted as perfect.I'm sure you'll continue to ignore that context, ignore that only faith is contrasted with the law, as opposed to faith and never-before-mentioned good deeds that you claim. I'm sure you will continue to ignore the example of Abraham who was before the law.And I'm sure you'll again bring up James 2 as a supposed 'gotcha', despite me fully agreeing with James 2. Faith without works is dead; when we believe in Jesus we are sealed with the Holy Spirit who will produce good works in us, as a consequence of us being saved; not a pre-requisite.
>>541088020it's a fake skull anyway, you gullible retard
Protestants don't season they food
>>541088020The internal squabbling between all abrahamic religions is pathetic. We should kick them all out again.
>>541101560>AbrahamSo also Abraham “believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.KEY WORD : CREDITEDAbraham was blessed. So an exceptionGalatian 3 is specifically about WORKS OF THE LAW Christ redeemed us from the law which has become a curse."Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”Also roman 4If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about—but not before God.Justification is by works but you don't boast about it AT ALL. Bc you might boast before men and rightfully so but not before God bc that is what you were suppose to do. You don't boast about something that is expected of you i.e. GOOD DEEDS which are NORMAL DEEDS.So the passage is mainly about boasting aka PRIDE.
>>541088020They didn't get the hint after the iconoclasm, why do you expect anything to get through?*Posing corrupt liars" is written in gold on just about all they do.
>>541088194Evangelicals specifically. Boomers precisely.
>>541103468Read>>541094482Read the whole thing. Galatians 3. We are saved in the same way Abraham was. It is only by faith. Those who think its something are called foolish by Paul and if we go back to Galatians 1 he says you are anathema and that you have a false gospel.Faith in Christ is the only way. Turn to Him brother. Stop trusting in your works, trusting in things you've done, trusting in other mere men or institutions; trust in Christ.
>>541094096Sorry to break it to you, but you are not a Christian and if you ever wish to be a Christian then consider the following verses:>Ephesians 4:29Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.>Colossians 3:8But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth.>Matthew 15:11It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.”>Matthew 12:36I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak,>Ephesians 5:1-33Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children. And walk in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God. But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving. For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.>2 Timothy 2:16But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness,>Proverbs 8:13The fear of the Lord is hatred of evil. Pride and arrogance and the way of evil and perverted speech I hate.>Titus 3:2To speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people.
>>541102344>works of the law which are no longer important to salvation They aren't.>EVERYTHING in the Old Testament.Didn't understand what you meant by that but Key word is OLD i.e. obsolete.Upgrade!>Paul SPECIFICALLY says that Abraham was justified by his faithNo that's what you like to believe. Abraham had works but could not boast before God and also had faith which God credited to him as righteousness. So Abraham had works and was blessed by God not necesarily bc of his faith. God just "credited" his faith as righteousness.Works were debt owed by God to Abraham (no boasting about it allowed)Faith was credit given by God to Abraham. Conclusion : the only thing Abraham could have been justified by were his works and even then he could not "boast" to God by them.Faith was just credit given to him by God and not a justification. An act of mercy if you will.>ignore that context,That's what you're doing by clinging to some retarded phariseic methods of pilpuling except you're replacing works of the law with faith.>And I'm sure you'll again bring up James 2 as a supposed 'gotcha', We don't engage in jewish pilpuling>despite me fully agreeing with James 2. You don't. You are aliar like all jews and cryptojews be it muslims or prots.>Faith without works is dead;It is what it is. >when we believe in Jesus we are sealed with the Holy Spirit who will produce good works in us, as a consequence of us being saved; not a pre-requisite.Aha, so the demonic jew reveals himself once again.It's a pre requisite as you can do works even without believing like the Good Samaritan did and even if you do claim to believe like the Pharisee and the Levite that belief is still dead until you prove it by works.You protestants are bunch of pharisees both literally and metaphorically.Like I said cryptojews. Might as well call Chriat just a man and join your muslim brothers in subservience to your rabbin judaism jew masters
>>541102791>abrahamicMozaic>religionsJudaism and 2 bootleg versions for goys - protestantism for white goys, islamism for nigger goys.You gook goys are exempt since you didn't adopt Christianity be it Orthodox or Catholic.
>>541103526>iconoclasmDefeated and its proponents hab a very bad fate.Yeah we did learn from it. You didn't.
>>541104467I will pray for you, in the mean time read this because it contradicts your position.Romans 4:9-16 ... 4-23-25 (I recommend you read it all but won't fit in 1 post):Is this blessing then only for the circumcised, or also for the uncircumcised? For we say that faith was counted to Abraham as righteousness. 10 How then was it counted to him? Was it before or after he had been circumcised? It was not after, but before he was circumcised. 11 He received the sign of circumcision as a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. The purpose was to make him the father of all who believe without being circumcised, so that righteousness would be counted to them as well, 12 and to make him the father of the circumcised who are not merely circumcised but who also walk in the footsteps of the faith that our father Abraham had before he was circumcised.13 For the promise to Abraham and his offspring that he would be heir of the world did not come through the law but through the righteousness of faith. 14 For if it is the adherents of the law who are to be the heirs, faith is null and the promise is void. 15 For the law brings wrath, but where there is no law there is no transgression.16 That is why it depends on faith, in order that the promise may rest on grace and be guaranteed to all his offspring—not only to the adherent of the law but also to the one who shares the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, ... 23 But the words “it was counted to him” were not written for his sake alone, 24 but for ours also. It will be counted to us who believe in him who raised from the dead Jesus our Lord, 25 who was delivered up for our trespasses and raised for our justification.
>>541103789>We are saved in the same way Abraham was.Yes by works first and faith second.> It is only by faith. Nope, read again. Abraham also had works.>Those who think its something are called foolish by Paul and if we go back to Galatians 1 he says you are anathema and that you have a false gospel.You protestant do have a false gospel by deliberately misinterpreting and twisting its meaning.>Faith in Christ is the only way.No, works is the way. Faith without works is dead. >Turn to Him brother. I'm already to Him.You are not and try to lead me astray. >Stop trusting in your works, trusting in things you've done, trusting in other mere men or institutions;God, I hate arhicons!Know this forked tongue demon worshipper "Nothing can ever separate us from God’s love" and those works and "mere men or institutions" are from God's love so you can't separate us from them.>Trust in Christ.I do, that is why I honor and listen to all those that come from Him like His Holy Priests, Churcg, Saints (be it Human or Powers - Angels and His Holy Perpetually Virgin Mother unlike you. I'm not your brother but we'll see each other on the other side when each will reap what it sowed!Good talking to you though. Now I understand who the enemy is, where it lies, who are its allies and what is to be done about it.
>>541105592Ephesians 2:8-9:>For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast
>>541104241>you are not a ChristianI am Christian. Orthodox even. You are not Christiam even if you have the audacity to call yourself that.You are part of the unholy trinity - Jews, Protestants and Muslims.Jews are the commandersMuslims are the regular army cannon fodder.Protestants are spies, saboteurs and assasins.You are the most dangerous and to be wiped out first. And for this we'll even temporarily ally with the schismatics.
>>541105846Philippians 3:2-11:Look out for the dogs, look out for the evildoers, look out for those who mutilate the flesh. 3 For we are the circumcision, who worship by the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh— 4 though I myself have reason for confidence in the flesh also. If anyone else thinks he has reason for confidence in the flesh, I have more: 5 circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; as to the law, a Pharisee; 6 as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to righteousness under the law, blameless. 7 But whatever gain I had, I counted as loss for the sake of Christ. 8 Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith— 10 that I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and may share his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, 11 that by any means possible I may attain the resurrection from the dead.
>>541088959Could you imagine wearing that into battle during the crusades? The jews and muslims foaming at the mouth to obtain your gold armor only for it to be soaked in their blood.
>>541105337>I will pray for youHe won't listen to you unless I do something to piss Him off...again...>Romans 4:9-16 ... 4-23-25 Dude, I don't care. Things are pretty simple and straight forward : OT out , NT in, No works, no faith so puti. WORKS for Family Church Nation - as above so below so Saints, Holy Virgin Mother, God Incarnate.I got all I need and then some.
>>541088020>OT>full of veneration of objectscatholics dont read the bible
>>541105703>so that no one may boastYeah no boasting when saved by grace aka bc God took pitty you. Otherwise WORK!
>>541088496worldly death cult>b-but nooo, I need my hecking relics, show me your paisos
>>541088372>Mary asked for an island and God gave it to herofc queen of heaven worship niggers show up
>>541105907>Look out for the dogs, look out for the evildoers, look out for those who mutilate the flesh.Yeah that's what I am doing. You are the dogs, evildoers and flesh mutilators. And many more. You'd better go talk to that arhicon (demons well versed in the scriptures) handler of yours, this strategy ain't working. Bet both you and them slap yourselves silly now for not pushing luther harder to ditch Saint James Epistle, don't ya?
>all this time, energy, money wasted on worshiping kikes
>>541095940roman catholocism isnt even christian
>>541106478Paul is saying that he had reason to be confident in the flesh, in his works, in his obedience. More than anyone else. More than you. However he counts it all as loss for the sake of Christ, and now considers all that as rubbish and so now only trusts in Christ and relies only on faith in Christ, not in anything he has done himself.Philippians 3:7-10:But whatever gain I had, I counted as loss for the sake of Christ. 8 Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith
>>541088020>make x claim about y group>no sources needed>retards immediately seal clap
>>541088020this superstitious bullshit needs to die already. fuck Christians and fuck religion.
Veneration of saints and a close relationship with death was something that already happened in the primitive church of the 1st century. Retarderd prots will now tell you people less than a century away from the "death" of jesus are not true christians or something.
>>541088020>haven't read the old TestamentAnd how many times was Jesus mentioned in the old testament? Zero times?Did Jesus teach us to do any of that shit? No.Did Jesus encourage us to do any of that shit? No.So why are Catholics doing it? Because Catholicism is just paganism with Christian names
>>541106446>>Mary asked for an island and God gave it to HerSo didn't He?>ofc queen of heaven worship niggers show upChrist is King so Holy Perpetual Virgin Mother is Queen.Who's the nigger now forrest nigger? Honest to God, I'm starting to think that problem is not entirely judaism but also germanism. They did bred the askenazim and their most insidious rabbinical schools including that most vile one that we know of. Yes yes I know its fro russia o algo but their founder fathers was a germoid ashkenazi from prague and what a befitting name - Bezazel a combo of belzebub and azazel. You fucking prussians are very demonic inclined.
>>541106666Ok lets agree to disagree.You stick with your faith.I'll stick to (what) works!
>>541106746>superstitious bullshit needs to die already. True Christianity thrives in adversity.>fuck protestants jews and muslims and their atheistic auxiliaries, forgot about those.Ftfy>and fuck religion.Nah, FUCK YOU!
>>541088020This shit feels very indian or third world. We’re really devolving. Of course it all coincides with foid worship and rule too.
>>541106896>And how many times was Jesus mentioned in the old testament? Zero times?Isaiah 53, and some other look it up for yourself, midwit retard.
>>541088496>Protestants are fake Christians because they don't do all these weird antichristian thingsCatholicism is paganism with Christian names.Orthodox is just Catholic-lite>no saintsEvery Christian who dies in Christ is a saint. So technically we have more saints than anyone elseChristians don't do the weird pagan shit that Catholics do>why not?Because Jesus taught that paganism is of the devil. Taking a pagan deity and renaming it with a biblical name doesn't make it Christian, it makes it pagan in Christian clothing>protestants/evangelicals worship israelThe boomers do.As a millenial Christian I have been very open with other Christians that "Israel" of today is not the biblical israel, and that eceryone who supports Israel is unknowingly supporting Satan.The bible says that even in the end times there will be real Christians. Hello, nice to meet you. The Bible was talking about people like me.
>>541106965I want you to be saved though brother, and I worry that you are not. There is only one way, and it is Jesus. Whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but shall have eternal life.Also I think you need to read this. I have needed it a lot recently. We are called to love, not to be puritans or inquisitors or anything like that. God bless you.1 Corinthians 13:1-13:13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.8 Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love
>>541094568Iconoclasm only became an issue with the rise of Islam. The Oriental Orthodox are still iconodules, and they split from the Cathodox church in 451. Iconoclasm was almost always rejected in the Western Empire. The catacombs are decked with icons. Read some history before posting
>>541088194All chriggers worship jews
>>541107121Stfu muslirat crypto nigger. Venerations will continue until Catholic moral improves.
>>541107129Just read it.Says Jesus zero times. Why do you lie?
>>541107121>This shit feels very indian or third world. Nope feels very... roman...ancient roman that is.>We’re really devolving.Nah, we're stable.>of course it all coincides with foid worship and rule too.God's punishment for protestant cryptojudaism and its associated matriarchy. Catholicism and Orthodoxu doesn't allow for wo.en to speak or teach men. Only children.
>>541088020The issue with protestants is they rejected the church's authority but didn't have a replacement mechanism.>ooofSooooooooooo... they now have a million different gay versions that all can rightfully reject each other's interpretations due to a lack of authority over scripture.Leading to most all the supernatural aspects of the religion now being viewed as 'symbolic'>fucking stupidThey're also hung up 'vernation' like morons throwing ice cubs at the sun.
>>541093008>>541093472After sucking the jew cock
>>541089683internet scholars then>these stories don't relay the facts exactly the same, therefore they're falseinternet scholars now>these stories don't tell exactly the same thing, which corroborates multiple witness testimonies which actually proves the veracity of the claims because most eyewitnesses are biased or fallible so it's actually extremely suspicious if their stories line up preciselyIncredible how far we've come
>>541089459>>541089061Muh skoufiild
>>541093523AD 42https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coptic_Orthodox_Church
>>541089294Your scriptura was written by ze church
>>541089294>sola scriptura>removes maccabee's
>>541107272> Says Jesus zero times.Does it say where your ass is or you simply use it for its intended purposes and not for thinkinf with it?Correlate it you dumbfuck! Start there where instructed. And work your way up to Daniel and others tou disingenous kike.
>>541107541>>sola scriptura>>removes maccabee'sAnd many more 79-66 =13 for Orthodox73-66=7 for Catholics.Ethiopians even more dunno exactly.
>>541090926>Blessed are those who hear the the word of God and obey itYou mean like Mary did?
>>541107373>rejected the church's authority but didn't have a replacement mechanismhow about Jesus Christ???
>>541088174FPBPHAIL MARYFULL OF GRACE PUNCH THE DEVIL IN THE FACE
>>541092847>>541094096You guys need to define faith before you can argue if you actually want to have a fruitful discussion. Faith isn't a mental ascent, it's fidelity. That's why "Faith without works is dead," because saying "I'm faithful to my wife" requires action, not just a cognitive process. To simply believe is not enough though. That's why Jesus said "Your heavenly Father will forgive you if you forgive those who sin against you; but if you refuse to forgive them, he will not forgive you." Forgiving others isn't a mental ascent, it is a work, and without this work your belief that God has forgiven your sins cannot be fulfilled.
>>541107541>removes
>>541108393Luther didn't remove the deuterocanon, he simply moved it to an appendix and still encouraged people to read it. The original KJV even has translated versions of the deuterocanon. It was removed much later to save on printing costs lel
The stupidity of Abrahamic religions is, unfortunately, alive and well in several forms today.The entire Bible is written by Jews except for the Gospel of Luke.
>>541108560How can I not be happy when I see millions of Goyim bow down to one Jew
>>541108368It's trusting in Jesus alone as your hope and saviour; not putting any hope in yourself, your works, or others.The problem with the "I'm faithful to my wife and that requires me to do and not do certain things" analogy is that faith is explicitly contrasted against works or obedience. The examples we are given are always fallen and sinful men; the tax collector and pharisee, the thief on the cross, the prodigal son. It is not the obedient, but the sinners who Jesus came to save. They are saved not by becoming righteous people; but by trusting in Christ, and gaining His righteousness as their own. We boast only in Christ, not in anything else.We are in fact all an adulterous spouse, not doing as we ought, and we are told this in Romans 3:10-12, we are constantly letting God down. And yet He is merciful and graceful and loves us; it is not we who go to Him, but He who lowered Himself and came to us in love, to save us when we had no hope.Note this is not a license to sin and if a so called Christian is living a life that is exactly the same as when they were living before claiming to know Christ; then we have reason to doubt their faith. We will know them by their fruits after all.However; we are all sinful. We cannot earn our place in the kingdom. It is a gift, and it has to be. All we have to show are filthy rags. We cannot add anything to what Christ has done; and we could not anyway, for the worth of Christ's offering is infinitely more than any amount of sin we could do. For those of us who are in Christ, there is no condemnation.For those with faith, we are sealed with the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is a good tree, and so will bear good fruit. Therefore if we believe, we have the Spirit, and if we have the Spirit there will be good works; and therefore we can say that faith without works is dead. But the works do not save us; they are a consequence of us having been saved.
>>541105846>I am a christian I swear>immediately calls for violence against a white majority>wants to give jews a pass while murdering majority of whitesyou kikes are so obvious
>>541088372literally all jew worshipper cults claim provenance.have you seen the biblical precedent for provenance?the jewhovahs witnesses were founded in like the 19th century, and think theyre the first christian sectits literal imaginationland
>>541107572Fact: it says Jesus zero times.You are a liar, and I rebuke thee.
>>541107693>you mean like Mary didLike millions and millions of people have.Mary has never delivered a prayer or "interceded" since she died. She died, and like all dead Christians she is dead.She has no throne, she doesn't sit at Jesus' side, she doesn't deliver prayers, and she played no part after giving birth to Jesus.Was she a good woman? Yes.Was she anything more than that? No.Has she done anything in the last 2000 years? No, because she is dead.
>>541088496they already did.christianity = judaism for gentiles
>>541089294Based German autists. There is no reason why the church can't be heretical at times. And when it is, it needs reform. The papists couldn't understand this.
>>541109679>papism>christian
