>>541092919
If you've read our military papers, we've actually proposed that this is the best path forward for both the US and Korea from years ago. Its not a new idea.

We were always going to eventually leave Korea and focus on the America's. Japan would always remain our 'fixed aircraft carrier' in the region.

>>541093137
what is your part in all of that?

>>541093217
What do you mean by 'my part'?

>>541093137
The 2026 National Defense Strategy explicitly states South Korea is capable of taking primary responsibility for deterring North Korea with critical but more limited US support indeed. The US focuses on homeland and selective Indo-Pacific denial. But this doctrine doesnt claim that South Korea should have its own fully independent policy that could be potentially a problem for the US in the future. It is a typical Trumps "eat a cake and have a cake" talmudism when he wants "allies" to defend themselves on their own while keeping and even growing imperial privileges. Trump was horribly butthurt about SK in his latest tweets xD

>>541093137
You do realize giving up on Korea means you're leaving Japan to the wolves right

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>>541092919
>Nah, we're not gonna do it for you
>OK, we'll do it ourselves
TACO! LMAO BLUMPF BTFO!!!!!

What's so bad about ROK talking to it's neighbors and trying to reunify anyway? Like, am I supposed to be upset? wtf I'm with her now

>>541092919
America is demanding full access to their military procurement as well so that they can start placing orders like a click and collect. Never seen such delusion before.

>>541093282
That strategy was first broached back under Biden and even before that but not as seriously.
>>541093313
Not at all. Japan will be asked (it already has been told more like it) to increase its military spending and development. The US will still maintain military bases in Japan so they aren't getting left alone. We just don't need to be spending billions each year staying in Korea when Korea can manage the North by themselves now.

>>541093313
He has no idea what you mean.
btw did you even get a single one of those subs that your paid for because we are going to need them alot sooner than expected.

>>541093371
South Korea is actively pursuing a "K-Palantir" initiative to foster homegrown security and defense-technology champions rather than relying on American Palantir. They want to be fully independent, they wont be a Palantir-leashed cannon fodder like Ukraine or Bolanda xD

>>541093371
North Korea has nukes and has repeatedly violated treaties over the decades by testing missles and have gotten to the point where they're capable of reaching Japan now. I'd also like to mention that South Korea is a high end manfacturing hub for technology like Samsung. The idea that they're of no significance and should be left to their own devices to protect themselves from the Norks is just absurd.

>>541093451
nah m8. At this rate we're gonna need them tomorrow since we'll have to be the defacto defense pact in the pacific now.

>>541093509
>North Korea has nukes and has repeatedly violated treaties over the decades by testing missles and have gotten to the point where they're capable of reaching Japan now

Modern NK ICBMs can reach entire territory of the USrael now xD

>>541093475
If you look at their strategy in weapons and technology, its clear that they are trying to be self sufficient and decoupled from BOTH the west and china. They won't pick sides and would rather develop their own core tech. Not just the domestic version of palantir (even though they are going to use some of it at least initially from what I've read) to they are also one of the few countries with their own sovereign AI initiative as they don't trust and won't let their domestic IP and knowledge leak out to western AI companies.

Its been clear for several years now that Korea just wants to be alone and not be coupled with either the west nor the east. Just work with anyone willing to do business. I can respect that.

>>541093509
Many countries have nukes. Doesn't mean just because someone has nukes that they are going to launch then if the US leaves. How much hollywood slop do you consume?

>>541093715
>if the US leaves.

If the US leaves, regional tensions will be significantly reduced.

>>541092919
Is Taiwan PHUCKED??

>>541093715
They don't need to launch the nukes, they just need to have the capacity to reach their targets. You're forgetting that North Korea are extremely aggressive and perform a fuckton of state sanctioned cyber attacks in the US, Japan, South Korea and other closely alligned countries to either cripple networks or steal money. Now that they've gotten their toes wet in Russia they're actually taking their first steps to be a real problem on the international stage and your attitude on leaving South Korea, who have been EXCEPTIONAL allies to the US mind you to defend themselves against the North is honestly a betrayal of your nations ideals and it just makes no sense on a geopolitical scale.

>>541093750
kek that is some delusion. Ask Japanese and Koreans how they feel about each other sometime.
Significantly reduced, kek.

>>541093827
North Korea is a very rational player, only contrfactually presented in globohomo media as an irrational actor. If the US leaves Korean Penisula, tensions will be significantly reduced

>>541093750
+1

>>541093876
Politics is not about feelings

>>541093885
>tensions will be significantly reduced
The will be reduced in the sense that South Korea will essentially be squashed by the North and pressure from China, yes. If the US abandons South Korea then their only hope for survival will be nuclear proliferation along with many more countries to come in the future.

>>541093932
These guys are something else, you can't apply a European perspective to them.

>>541093973
>If the US abandons South Korea then their only hope for survival will be nuclear proliferation

Maybe. Anyways, the bankrupt and deindustrialized US cant really "defend" SK from NK/China but its presence only grows tensions. China/NK will be there forever, they wont disappear while US American presence is temporary.

>>541093827
I see it totally different than you do. Their hacking was based on need, not so much desire to be a pest.

Their extended cooperation with Russia really helped them out with a lot of cash and new materials and training/experience. And they RAPIDLY developed their infrastructure because of it. If anything, I think this may have woke up the North to wanting to have more global trade as they got a huge taste of what legitimate money can do for their regime. I think they might be motivated to formally end the war with the South and work on opening up at least to Russia and other willing countries including Korea.

And this is what I believe really scared the CCP as China had grown distant with the North, even approving the sanctions against the North and adhering to them. It wasn't until Xi realized North Koreans are developing under Russia that he himself flew out to meet Kim in order to salvage what he could. If you checked out China's social media, you'll note that many chinese mock the north and Kim as backwards peoples. Chinese people don't like nor respect the North and the North knows it too. Kim is going to side closer to Russia and that has China worried now so maybe China starts providing economic opportunities for them to try and put them under their sphere of influence but I don't think the North will ever allow that, even with Russia. Just mutual relationships going forward or nothing.

I can't ever see them giving up their nukes so they will always be banned by the west though.

>>541094042
Maybe? It will be certain otherwise South Korea is basically done as a nation. I find it extremely hard to believe that you don't understand the idea that the US pulling out is just a return to the Age of Empires which escalates tensions even more.

>>541094065
That hacking went towards funding their nuclear weapons programs, that is not based on need. North Korea are a rogue nation and should not absolutely be given any kind of opporunity for legitmacy in any capacity. An emboldened North Korea is bad for everyone and pulling out of South Korea is just giving them ample time to plunder whatever they want from the South and by extension, the US since you have real monetary investment in South Korean industry.

Mutts can leave any time
But if that happens we will build nukes l
frfr

>>541094200
They absolutely needed nukes and they also need cash which is why they did a lot of crypto theft and a lot of remote work for western companies. They are a rogue nation based on 'western interests' because they go against the will of the west. You actually sound like a typical tankie Chinese who's afraid of both North and South becoming independent and growing together but I'm sure its just by coincidence.

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>>541094200
>the US pulling out is just a return to the Age of Empires which escalates tensions even more.

We already find ourselves in the Age of Empires _because_ of the new US policy/doctrines that undermine post-WW2 order created by the US itself. This order led to China becoming a superpower and the West losing vast majority of its power. Thats why Trumps administration resets this order with mRNA to cull the unproductive/resource-depleting biomass being a result of decades of prosperity based on FED printers and offshoring, the US moves towards totalitarian technocracy, data centers, trade wars, tech wars etc. The old world is already gone.

>>541094200
>North Korea are a rogue nation
hows the weather at pine gap

>>541094260
I wonder what you will say when South Korea goes rogue for survival.
Will you still call him a Tankie?
Fuck i am glad we have been building our own missiles down here. Aussies should have done a deal for Jap subs instead.

>>541094218
>we will build nukes

Yup. You can do this, you have enough expertise.

>>541094353
>South Korea goes rogue for survival.
lol, okay. Tankie talk hour is in full effect.

>>541094260
A nation that quite literally steals and loots to survive are not a legitimate nation. Considering they've repeatedly killed, starved and effectively trapped their own population for decades by a despot they are a rogue nation, period. They are the sole nation on this planet that refuse to play by any standards so nice try nigga. If you leave south korea to the dogs then they have the right to nukes as we will too and so should Japan.

>>541094321
By definition we are NOT in the Age of Empires because at this time America is the sole global super power.

>>541092919
>US gives up South Korea but keeps Japan firmly under their thumb

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>China has a huge impact on the Rocket Man
I heard Kin Jong Un executed several family members who had strong ties to China when he got into power.

He is obviously a bit of a snake himself and is trying to find his own position in the global world.
He executed his family members.
And then he tried to get close to Trump.
(A lot of stuff happened after this point which I stopped tracking)
But shit went down in Ukraine, and he decided it's best to make a defense pact with Russia.
I'm not sure where he stands today in relation to Trump, but he must have noticed Trump/Israel is a snake too during the course of Iran war, and can't be trusted.

North Korea is generally a bit of a clown country.

>>541094416
>By definition we are NOT in the Age of Empires because at this time America is the sole global super power

Thats not true. The US primacy doesnt exist already since 2008, technically.

>>541094391
This mutt doesn't know we tried to go nuclear in 1979 but the cia assassinated our president

>>541094458
It still exists to this day. China is only a near-pear at this given time but if the US leaves South Korea altogether than that changes extremely quickly as their word effectively becomes worthless overnight, along with US power projection.

China and Korea are the relevant and strong Asians
Japan and the rest are irrelevant

>>541094416
>A nation that quite literally steals and loots to survive are not a legitimate nation.
So then China isn't a legitimate nation. They steal IP from Korea (OLED, Folding Screens, DDR5, Battery Tech, Pharmaceuticals, etc.) and not to mention from the West (AI, semiconductors, biotech research, etc.). And the blatant economic loans "debt-trap diplomacy" in Africa to gain access to their resources and extend their belt and trade initiatives.


Good to know.

>>541094462
Oh, I knew that already. It just wasn't salient to my point.

>>541092919
> South Korea is developing “sufficient capability to take full responsibility for defending the Korean Peninsula ourselves,”
They’ve been saying this shit for decades. It’s simple Yoshida doctrine pil-pul.

>>541094493
>near-pear
China is nowhere close to 1970s might of soviet union

>>541094462
>>541094534
This is going to be a shit show and we are going to need our own nukes.

>>541093715
Korea, geographically, is too small & weak to be independent, especially when it has been split in half. They’ll just become a Chinese tributary as the US pulls back, like they’ve been throughout history.

>>541094534
Drumpf just mad we didnt send warship to hormussy and wanna die for Israel. He does it to shake us and lick kim jung eun dick

>>541094534
Decades? By who? Anyone credible?

Its only been fairly recently that both the US and Korea have been saying this since Korea's defense industry is getting global prestige.

>>541094584
>ネット右翼 talking point
nevermind, ignored

>>541094524
Nice dodging of the question, North Korea is a totalitarian shithole and do everything in their power to violate every single human right and international law possible. China are intellectual property niggers but they've got nothing on the depravity of the Norks. For the sake of human deceny the North Korean leadership should not see any kind of legitimacy for their crimes against humanity.

>>541094550
Sure, there's argument around that but the point being that the US is simple incapable of defending South Korea is absurd.

>>541094626
>Its only been fairly recently that both the US and Korea

It's been over 20 years, mutt. Every time an anti US pro chink, nork president get elected, the left whine about US and try to reduce US presence but it wont happen because they cant do shit

>>541094626
Nice bot response. Just google OPCON transfer. The US has had control of the Korean military ever since 1950.
Now make me a gif of a Korean girl eating french fries in a bathtub full of ketchup.

>>541094654
> North Korea is a totalitarian shithole
>that flag
pottery

>>541094654
I think the Korea's should just be left to decide their own fate without meddling. It has done far more harm than good an the past many decades have shown this. The North wouldn't exist if not for other countries (not just the east but including the west) getting involved.

The US should no longer play world police or security guard.

>>541094706
Again, who?

>>541094712
No shit, ネット右翼. Why are you bringing up shit that doesn't matter to the core topic? We also cap your military and left you in self defense mode only. But now we're asking you to spend more money on your own military and change your constitution but you are such ardent vassals you won't.

South Korea (much like Japan and the Brussels Union) has been ruined by mutts, secular jews and libtardism. North Korea represents the future; they should simply take over SK and clean up the mess created by libtards

https://youtube.com/watch?v=93_c_eD3tgE

>>541094781
>I think the Korea's should just be left to decide their own fate without meddling.
And to do what? Annihilate each other? That's nice if you enjoy needless mass suffering and death but realistically the moment the US pulls out China is just gonna start exerting their influence over South Korea until it comes under their control.

>The US should no longer play world police or security guard.
Well we better say hello the new world police, China then. I know it gets memed about a lot but do you Americans really have no concept of force projection and power vaccums? It's like you can't understand that pulling out is just going start a bunch of regional conflcits that'll spiral out of control.

>>541094867
>China is just gonna start exerting their influence over South Korea until it comes under their control.

It's already under china's control. They've taken over the election system and rigged every election since 2020. Why do you think our former president Yoon chimped out and declare martial law?

>>541094948
I think a big emphasis should be put on "tried" because that nigga got fucking jailed for life in the end. It's not over yet, you guys are still hanging on. Be proud that your electoral systems are still capable of fighting off such blantant thuggery and I mean that as genuine praise. Some of those politicans did some crazy ass shit on that night.

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>>541094584
>They’ll just become a Chinese tributary as the US pulls back, like they’ve been throughout history.
I don't know about that. North Korea is a bit of a bipolar scizo>>541094449

When Kim Jong Un came to power he was whining to Trump about how nobody was helping him.
Apparently they are unhappy China doesn't give them enough Gibsmedats.

This is reverse Tributary. This is the small country demanding Gibs from China, or else it will try to be friends with Murrica.

>>541094867
>>541094948
Oh you chinese shills are too predictable. Same shit you guys talk about every time Korea is mentioned. Same fucking story.

>>541095146
I'm not a chinese shill you dumbfuck. I like America, I don't want to be under their thumb but you seem pretty fucking hellbent on handing them the keys of the kingdom for some godforsaken reason.

>>541095033
He's a fucking pacifist retard imo
If I were him id just kill every chink lover commie on site and start a civil war but he just blew up with bullshit plans. The conservatives are still in protest about election fraud and there have been multiple fraud detected officially in counting voter turnouts last month. Further investigation is due but I dont really trust the special prosecutors. This country is beyond fucked.

>>541095201
I do now just to make you extra irate.

>>541095142
where is israel

>>541095233
Well yeah, when your longest known and most powerful ally starts punching themselves in the head for no reason and refuses to listen to reason it does tend to get pretty fucking annoying.

>>541092919
All talk from there bug eyes people. Th south will always be considered weak needing the help of mutts.

>>541093509
>capable of reaching Japan now
nigga, they have outright demonstrated their missiles can hit japan with an apogee of 7000km, and that's not even their latest model

>>541095292
Look, lets be brutally honest and real. Nothing you nor I post on this shitboard impacts reality. Things will happen as they happen outside of our posts, many of which are filled with propaganda, lies, cope, and seethe.

We're just debating about shit we don't control. Get over it.

>>541095289
Where is secular juice or masons? :)

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>>541095431
I go to protests tho sometimes

>>541095431
That's a pretty nice way of saying that your position was worthless to begin with.

>>541092919
With Trump doing everything to strengthen BRICS and USA losing against Iran, Americans are a liability, frankly speaking.

>>541095476
Good. Its important to exercise your rights.

>>541095493
Yours as well, bongbro.

btw, I'll be in Sydney fairly shortly to watch the football game. I'll be sure to punch every chinaman I see down there.

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>>541095146
>Gives Asia to China
>When called out on it, yell "Chinese shill"

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>>541095510
It's total clownworld in Korean Penisula

North Korea playing tough against China, threatened to get closer to Trump if China doesn't give them Gibs.
South Korea playing tough against Murrica, thratening to get closer to China if Trump keeps demanding more wars.

Sometimes South Korea litterally have more in common with China than North Korea.

>>541095562
Have fun in jail then, you definitely embody the current administration since you're both self destructive retards.

>>541095577
>fanfic fantasy
k chang

>>541095595
sure
Note that none of the countries that you mentioned consider you as human, pajeet

>>541095595
Trump and China are on the same team though. Any non-BRICS country has to consider America an enemy state.

>>541093509
>North Korea has nukes and has repeatedly violated treaties
Which treaty did they sign?

>>541095595
North Korea depends on China for 90-95% of its legitimate trade, including nearly all oil/fuel (no domestic production), food, machinery, and consumer goods. Without Chinese supplies and the trade deficit subsidy, the regimes economy collapses. Occasional "anti-Chinese" rhetoric or closer Russia ties are pure theater: Russia cannot replace Chinas volume or geographic lifeline. Pyongyang has no viable alternative and must ultimately accommodate Beijing. Besides China uses North Korea currently as a proxy to help Russia to avoid direct help and possible sanctions of the West.

>>541093337
turn off that vpn

>>541095709
IAEA

>>541095741
Oof I meant NPT

>>541095719
It's over. I have been had. I'm voting blue now. Fuck Trump!

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>>541095741
That's just a Jewish spyprogram so they can assassinate all your nuclear scientists.

>>541095217
You can’t vote your way out of a corrupt system.

>>541095881
Ofc I wanna commit minecraft but the thing is there's no real far right movement here. Everyone's afraid of even talking shit, effectively circumcised by the left since Moon.

>>541095881
Not only that, but the system isn't a living thing, it depends on people. This means there are corrupt factions backing it against you. These factions and groups are far more powerful; they are literally draining your nation like vampires. Once it runs dry, they'll throw you to the dogs and move on to their next target.
Guess who they are?

>>541096056
Jews and Catholics

>>541095771
Didn't they withdraw like 2 decades ago?
Only matter of time before Iran also withdraws.

>>541096118
Boooong, wrong answer. They are just ordinary people like you and me.

your real enemy: libtard groups like the Masons and secular Jews like Soros, and on the other hand, are Zionist power factions like the Likud party and their ZOG lapdogs.
Dems vs. Republicans? Left-leaning lib-capitalism vs. right-leaning lib-capitalism.

Anything outside that is the outer edge of the Overton window is unacceptable.
'Muh freedom of speech' goes kaput, poof!

Rec: Jay Dyer - Esoteric Hollywood

JAP SEETHING ITT LMAO
MORE PROSTITUTES FOR US SOLDIERS ON THE WAY

>>541094218
Do it now nigger the U.S will leave you hanging at some point, Trump is following orders from higher up and you matter very little to them

>>541093313
Honestly: South Korea is more Anti-Japanese than China is.
Japan can deal with China alright (thanks to US support), but South Korea is more of a problem, because they are a wolf in sheep's clothing.

>>541093371
>Japan will be asked (it already has been told more like it) to increase its military spending and development.
>just do the thing xDD
With what fucking money? Bessent has scavenging other countries to try and save the yen from its death spiral to no avail.
It's ogre for the homo empire trump is just accelerating

>>541096603
>Honestly: South Korea is more Anti-Japanese than China is.
Are you honestly going to ignore the current spat between China and Japan? lol, okay then.

>>541093282
Allies should defend themselves, we aren't the world police or their daddy. If China wiped out a carrier task force Germany would sooner sanction America than sanction China much less declare war, and South Korea has shown zero interest in aiding America in the Middle East, Americas, or wider Pacific.

>>541096629
They can tax the fuck out of japs

>>541096718
Why is bombing the shit out of iran our war exactly? At least put jews at the strait first and then ask allies what the fuck are the US even doing at this point? Did drumpf really thought bombing the shit out of totalitarian state would make them surrender? I thought you learned in Vietnam?

>>541096718
I agree we should no longer be police of the world.

But the rest of your comment? Thats misleading.
Korea sent troops to Vietnam by request of the US, they aided us in both gulf wars. They just aren't willing to be cannon fodder in Iran or Ukraine like literally everyone else.

>>541096905
>Why is bombing the shit out of iran our war exactly?
Because you're our ally. Why is South Korea our problem? What do we gain by wasting countless billions garrisoning a peninsula we have no capability to supply much less defend?

>>541092919
why wouldn't they?
>no territorial disputes
>best korea as buffer zone between them
outside of the typical economic manipulation and industry espionage from China there really isn't a big reason why they wouldn't have normal relations

also US presence was never meant to go forever in SK
they repeatedly said this, and not just Trump btw

like >>541093137 said
Japan is their main Pacific ally
Geographically SK is pretty useless for the US

>>541096718
>If China wiped out a carrier task force Germany would sooner sanction America than sanction China much less declare war
uh wouldn't be so sure about that
the much more likely scenario is to assist the US in whatever retaliation mission happens
Germany is still pretty pro US
and in the past that was exactly the reaction that happened
(an no Iran / Israel doesn't count goyim)

besides that Germany is used as primary outside US base for every war anyway
give that the largest airbases, hospitals etc. are there

>>541096967
That's not what happened.
You went in on Israel's behalf.
This was not an American operation it was Israel and now you are screeching at everyone but Israel.
You need to stop acting retards and put the blame where it belongs before Israel will be the only ally you have left.

>>541096696
China dislikes Japan when their interests are in conflict.
South Korea fucking hates Japan with an absolute passion - it's practically their national identity (in politics and the MSM).
If I were Japan, I would know which neighbor I'd prefer.

>>541097233
>54% of young Koreans view Japan positively. Only 34% of Japanese like Korea.
The hate is stronger on your side.

>>541096967
We are allies with the US not Israel. Why the fuck should we be involved in this war of religion? Tell tel aviv to pipe down and make iran halt nukes. Do most americans really think this way? Feel free to leave your allies if you think this way.

>>541097291
>on your side
Check flag, I'm on no side in that mess.

>>541093217
None, he's a kike golem that claps and obeys his masters, soon to be extinct by being murdered by a nigger and/or not having kids. It's safe to ignore him and the brain farts he considers thoughts until then.

>>541097324
So if you won't help us in our wars what do we gain from this alliance? Also are Koreans retarded? What do they expect us to do in a war? We have no domestic manufacturing and thus no ability whatsoever to replace losses or spent munitions. Our navy was locked out of the strait of Hormuz by Iran but Koreans somehow think America could in any way help against China?

As far as I'm concerned we should withdraw from all of our bases abroad because we're wasting money masquerading as a global power when fucking India could probably kick our teeth in in a war.

>>541097228
>This was not an American operation it was Israel
No, it was our operation, now I'm not gonna contest that it was retarded, but if Korea refuses to assist us in our retarded wars why should we assist them in their retarded wars?

>>541093137
>amerikikes create a problem
>the solution has always been that they need to fuck off and mind their own business
>"uhhh ackhually we proposed this and solved the problem!"
god i fucking hate amerimutts so much it's unreal

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>>541097528
We have no air carriers or a blue water level navy what the hell are you even talking about man? Just look at this shit man these are for defense.

>>541097324
Israel starts a war with the middle east
Demands America helps them
America acts like a fool and goes in without asking for any support.
Gets all of their middle eastern allies blown up and then proceeds to lose all of their bases in the region.
Blames their allies who don't want to be cannon fodder for Israel
Outraged that their allies ask Israel to start sacrificing Israeli soldiers
Outraged that their allies are telling them that Israel should pipe down then
Cuts all Alliances but Israeli.
At what point do you just skip the middle man and talk directly to Israel about American foreign policy.

>>541097710
If China wanted to they could quadruple those numbers in five years without even mobilizing, if we mobilized our entire economy we couldn't even recover from losing a single carrier.

>>541097584
>why should we assist them in their retarded wars?

If you dont need a landbase in asia thats only 400km from Beijing you can always retreat to japan or even Hawaii. I thought americans cared about anti communism and human rights, fellow christians or shit and every year they get dumber and greedier for some reason.

>>541096802
Their economy is on the brink of a major crisis, it's only being held together by the mutts to make the sure the japs don't go and sell the treasury bonds.
They literally have no future, why do you think they suddenly started encouraging tourism?

>>541097584
So you assertion is that you started a war without consulting your allies or asking for support until you started losing.
Is this correct.
Because i am pretty sure this is not how Alliances work.
You ask for their support FIRST and not AFTER the fact.

>>541097867
>If you dont need a landbase in asia thats only 400km from Beijing
We had to evacuate our bases in the gulf because of Iram, you're delusional if you think Korean or even Japanese bases are even remotely defensible or useful in conflict with China.

Again, we have zero industry, in a war against China we flat out lose. Japan in 1941 had a better chance against America than we have against Chins today and that gap widens every day.

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>>541097710
Are actually a Korean? I don't know... you're posting out dated shit.

>>541097935
>we flat out lose everywhere!
Then why even bother to meddle in iran? Is trump a hypocrite?

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>>541098015
To better support his argument

>>541098054
>Then why even bother to meddle in iran
Because Trump is a dipshit who doesn't realize that a non-industrialized country can never win a war against an industrialized country. In modern conventional wars whoever builds the most shit wins.

>>541098015
Ships are useless in this century. Everything is fought with missiles and drones launched from land or small fishing boats.

>>541097867
>muh human rights, muh democracy, muh soul
Hahahahahahahahahaahahahahahha

>>541098233
at least the yankees in 1950s really believe that shit tho, and they were real fighters. Americans now are a totally different breed.

>>541092919
wait, the Ford Motor company is from Asia?

>>541098314
American people? Maybe, sure. Were the '50s very different? Yeah. Did their rulers, authorities or power factions actually believe that stuff? Hell fucking no. Only their puppets believe that human concepts like that are absolute truth, almost like a dogma. They fucked over the world with those concepts.

We helped you guys out too, we love Koreans, but we were both manipulated and fucked over. Accept it and move on knowing that. The US government or whatever group is behind that evil is not your friend or "ally". That doesn't mean ordinary Americans are evil, like left-leaning libtards try to claim with intersectionality.

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Everyone sees Trump taking off the mask and sucking Israeli dick with PASSION, and they don't want anything to do with it

>>541098577
I think the ordinary americans are also evil subhuman lead poisoned subhumans, they'll only ever be "nice" to you if you suck up to them, any sign of resistance and they'll start frothing from the mouth like deranged dogs

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There are no people born with evil traits. You can't call lions (or cannibalist tribes) evil just because they're predators at least not from a secular, liberal, relativist perspective. If you push constant libtard propaganda (both left and right-leaning) and worship Jews with Protestant Masonic bullshit, what do you expect? People are just trying to survive in this capitalist, individualist, nihilist colosseum and live their lives; they don't have time to read 3 million pages. Mass migration (cheap labor) is the final straw that will destroy the Western world. This is it, they don't need you or your nationhood anymore.

>>541098713
>How DARE a country behave with geopolitical pragmatism
If anything we've been far too generous. Should have left NATO after the USSR fell and the organization became redundant, also should have at the start made NATO entry requiring usage exclusively of American arms.

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The Chinese cartoons are making fun of the current US economical situation xD.

Once the American people realize what’s happening there will be a flight to physical assets. I’m honestly surprised it hasn’t happened already.

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