>America is buying back its own bonds because nobody else wants.I don't see the point of doing this.You print money and then buy your own bonds,isn't that just printing money for yourself?This will only lead to a crisis of depreciation for the U.S. dollar.
https://x.com/leshka_eth/status/2090125806026842129
>>541096255printing money with interest
>>541096255you know we're going to refinance at -2% in a few years right?
>>541096255Is this the worst administration in modern history? What the fuck are they doing.
>>541096255>I don't see the point of doing this.>You print money and then buy your own bonds,isn't that just printing money for yourself?It's to control the rates along the yield curve. There is a term for it. It is called financial repression.
I don't know what this means.
>>541096255but if you hold all institutions that set the rat of inflation and the worth of your useless paper called dollar its unimportant... they could print a trillion every day, nobody would have any chance to do anything against it... btw its a good way for the jews to control the jew ass and a... let them sink so deep that they are only held by your monetary system alive and if they dont run in line with your agendas you threat em with letting em fall! blackmailing is the jews most played trick
They must have positioned their money since they are comfortable speaking on it. Incoming tRump and dump for sure.
>>541096255It doesn't look great. He's buying 30y to refinance as 10y, this is largely to create scarcity in 30y. Unfortunately the bond market doesn't trust him, it seems all he is doing is spreading contagion into 10y. Taken at his dementia-riddled word, Trump told the markets yesterday he could "easily" and "quickly" buy the 30y without reissuing or QE (for this is what cutting the debt is) and he has simply chosen not to in a fit of rage with his own treasury. Bond markets in general get pissy with signs of obvious disrespect like that even though they know Trump is lying.
>>541096255Correct. They are injecting money into the market that will now be free to chase other instruments
>>541096386I believe there is a way to resolve the U.S. debt crisis without causing the U.S. government to collapse.That is through large-scale nationalization.The U.S. government would nationalize the Federal Reserve, giant corporations, and private land,the profits generated by these banks, companies, and land would be sufficient to repay the U.S. national debt.But this is absolutely impossible. If it were to happen, it would be tantamount to a coup d’état in the U.S., turning the country into a socialist state.So the only path left for the U.S. is the Great Depression 2.0: let everything collapse, and then start rebuilding.
>>541096400The jewish debt system was going to collapse at some point anyway, this is just the jewish administration that happened to be at the end of it. The Wilson administration was the worst in history that created this problem.
>>541096594Putin took 36bn off oligarchs in the last year to fund his war, we know Trump is a big fan...
>>541096594>repay the U.S. national debtwhy would we do that when we can refinance forever and you'll pay us to do it? see >>541096386
>>541096400You lost, tranny
>>541096255you should look at europe
>>541096255>You print money and then buy your own bonds,isn't that just printing money for yourself?not quite, it is buying your own money at a higher cost.
>>541096662We're all actively losing, retard
>>541096255Japan sold off the equities before they could dump Europe's ass.
>>541096638>PutinAfter the war in Ukraine broke out, Russia did indeed nationalize private enterprises on a massive scale.Tens of thousands of private enterprises may have been nationalized, and Putin forced oligarchs to make donations to fund the war.This did indeed help Russia weather the most difficult period and prevented the Russian economy from collapsing completely.There’s no way Trump could have done this, unless he wanted to be killed by the Jews on Wall Street.
>>541096662Are you stupid?
>>541096255Worry about your own failing economy, Chang. If you really are Chinese and not some retard with a VPN, you'll know all about the government's plans to lock you in your home when covid comes back around next week. .
2 more weeks. Q predicted this.
>>541058528nothing will improve unless we eliminate this psycho
>>541096532Neither do financetards.
>>541096658>you'll pay us to do it?Nah~ We prefer gold. We hope President Trump will sell us more gold. We’ll pay you back in U.S. dollars.
>>541096255I still remember how QE in 2008 was going to cause hyperinflation and the end of the USD.The US has to intervene because the Yen is crashing and the Japs are dumping treasuries to buy Yen in an effort to support it.
>>541096386ever since covid money printer started it was set in stone that when rates go down anytime in the future, it will mean death of us dollar
>>541096663>europeHow bad is the European economy?I don’t know much about the euro or the European debt crisis. All I know is that since the war in Ukraine broke out, Europe has been mired in a painful energy crisis.
>>541096594The problem also is a lot of corporations are zombiecorps propped up basically by taxes so it'd be like buying an empty bag while pretending it's filled with groceries. And now with jeets being imported in who destroy the ones remaining, I'm not even sure nationalizing them would work at this point.
>>541096255We have been doing this since 2008.Nothingburger
>>541096548no, (((they))) are scared shitless. (((they))) have no idea how to prevent death of us dollar and with it, death of amerijewish empirethings like in OP are pure desperation attempts to slow things down
>>541096255That would be something if trump manages to destroy USA lol
>>541096255China would be concerned about the US dollar collapsing when they buy everything in US dollars. Japan is going to kamikaze the US dollar
>>541096992Kek
>>541096255The jews will pull some trickery like they have been for the past 30 years to keep the dollar from crashing. A bunch of countries could crash the whole economy just by cashing in their bonds. The chinese could sink the economy in the blink of an eye. The US (west in general) is so utterly dependent on China, it's insane.
>>541096255>>541096267in terms of the financial system being a total fluke, t's uncanny how much similiarity there is between now and 100 years ago.
>>541097120>I still remember how QE in 2008 was going to cause hyperinflation and the end of the USD.(((they))) sacrifised EUR back then to save USDthis time there is nobody to sacrifise. in fact, vassals need saving
>>541096255it's either money printing or defaulting for failing empires that can't pay their debts, empires always choose money printing
>>541097120>YenI don’t know how Besent plans to save the yen.If Japan raises interest rates, yen carry trades will end, and global stock markets will crash.If Japan doesn’t raise interest rates, the yen will depreciate, and the Japanese economy will fall into hyperinflation.Buying yen is just a waste of money; Japan must sell U.S. Treasuries to obtain dollars.No matter what Japan does, its economy will collapse.And no matter what, Japan will have to sell U.S. Treasuries.Unless the U.S. government uses military force to compel Japan to stop selling U.S. Treasuries.In that case, the Japanese economy will plunge into hyperinflation.
>>541096782>After the war in Ukraine broke out, Russia did indeed nationalize private enterprises on a massive scale.I see, you have some holes in your knowledge about Russia.They ALREADY seized bunch of western companies which did not left Russia market.There were companies which wanted to sell their operations in Russia to locals (with like 60% discount), and got seized anyway.Even before full scale invasion, bunch of russian owned enterprises got seized, and then re-distributed to close-to-FSB persons. That was one of reasons, why wealthy russians were so eager to buy properties abroad. As then it would work as "safeguard" if/when their operations in Russia gets seized. In Spain, at coast of Mediterranean, a lot of hotels/hostels are russian owned. Even here we had bunch of russian investments.
>>541096386>you know that we'll just take on more debt rightyeah and get raped by yield rates even more
>>541097300>money printingHyperinflation
>>541097369better than defaulting at least
>>541097051>Nahhow do you plan to change the inevitable? see >>541096386>>541097125>refinancing at a lower rate will kill the dollargo back to youtube
>>541097369thanks for the pic, the german retard never updated it so I'll do it because your pic is wrong tooprotip: we are now at what-would-be 15.000 point in your chart (you are here arrow)one last leg before it all collapsesbuckle up guys
>>541097362>raped by -2% ratesanon, I...
>>541096255>I don't see the point of doing this.They have rules when they do auctions. Bids are actually what interest rate people are willing to accept, if those bids aren't low enough, they buy them to cancel out those highier bids. It doesn't matter, they have done this since the Fed was created.>holy nothing burger
>>541097222China is letting their currency strengthen at the moment while they let over heated sectors cool and old red guards die off. Once that happens in sufficient numbers that they dont threaten the state, on comes the printers and then welfare for the masses
>>541097405lower rates mean us dollar becomes worthlessyou save debt, but lose value of currency. your oligarchs keep their companies but your population is dirt poor
>>541097405and by the way, your currency lost 1/2 of its value last year. your kikes are scared beyond belief at lowering rates
>>541096255The dollar is dead nigger, we will just hyperinflate all our debts away and start paying people in some cbdc freedom coin
>>5410974222% on 80 trillion debt is the same as 5% on a 40 trillion one
>>541096255>I don't see the point of doing this.They are buying back bonds which matured. And when issuing bonds with lower yield, there is no enough demand for those. Thus, they raise yield to attract more buyers.Some time ago, there was that "Greenland will be nice addition to USA" thing. And bunch of pension funds in EU started slowly to offload USA securities, as risks increased. Japan on smaller scale, also did that.>This will only lead to a crisis of depreciation for the U.S. dollar.No. It leads to higher inflation, higher borrowing costs and higher costs of servicing their debt.Weaker dollar would make their exports more competitive, so a lot of persons in USA would be ok with that. But higher borrowing cost, it will hit harder later on.
>>541097454>refinancing at a lower rate will kill the dollaryou already said this and I already mocked you for it, what else do you want? you could try support your outrageous conclusion with some argumentation, that might be interesting. or you could go back to youtube.
>>541097246lmao, you really think the Chinese want that? The USA is in the process of a massive scheme to decouple from China, and the Chinese are hoping to dissuade the west from doing so. China already lost the top trading spot to Mexico, and the Chinese are desperately trying to latch on. Losing access to the American market is a huge deal and if the west wanted to it could orchestrate a decoupling and friendshoring alliance involving dozens of countries who were fucked by China's policies in the last decade.
>>541097559you're one hell of a retarded glownigger, glowniggernote to your boss: please send someone not so fucking retarded
>>541097496>lost 1/2 of its value last yearshark jumped>>541097526seems like you didn't see the "-" or the pic here >>541096386now what?
>>541097405In theory, China will buy more U.S. Treasuries in the future.But that won’t happen until after the Great Depression 2.0 is over.It could take 10 to 20 years for the U.S. economy to recover from the Great Depression.Everyone will suffer.
>>541096267>Lowering interest rates is a long-term crime against your own (((people)))Lol lmao, they arent even trying to be subtle anymore, like at fucking all. Only a turbo kike or a shabbos goy would ever claim that interest rates are a good thing to have. Kikes really make it so their actual and at this point inevitable genocide is going to be such a massive boon to the world economy that their cessation of existence will directly correlate with a golden age for humanity.
>>541097559They are just mad that they are forced to hold the dollar and that our inflation means we effectively tax them. ww2 was a bitch
>>541097593every accusation is a confession
>>541096255If Elon Musk gave $100 million to each American, everyone would be happy and he would still have $100 billion.
>>541097625to be fair, in the 50s, you could actually use your savings account because it'd be a decent return. That'd be nice. Also the housing market wouldn't be a total joke if there were normal interest rate.
>>541096386That is the most antisemitic chart I have ever seen
>>541097586wow, you talk as if China were dependant on you where in reallity it is you who are critically dependant on Chinese goods>and the Chinese are hoping to dissuade the west from doing sokek glownigger copeChina is the one doing a slow decoupling from you retard and you're butthurt about it because you NEED countries using dollar otherwise you can't influence them
>>541096386friendly note to all new anons coming to this threadthis anon is glownigger
>>541097599>now what?yeah right, and then the easter bunny will come with santa clause according to the trends
>>541096400We in the final stages of the federal reserve influence on the economy before it reach level of exponentials that are literally impossible to ever repay, and its all on purpose as to force the entire world into indentured slavery as to repay the incurred debt, which would never have been a thing if it werent from the kikes bankrolling the implementation of the fed reserve in the first place.Aint for no reason kikes literally cannot charge interest on each others loans, they know its a fraudulent scheme that ruin eveyone eventually.
>>541097184Possibly, I think they just don't care. They don't care to save the USA or the dollar. The politicians currently in power are only looking to enrich their own. Are a bunch of them Jewish and represent Jewish interests, absolutely. Not like anyone will do anything about it.
>>541097658>If Elon Musk gave $100 million to each American, everyone would be happy and he would still have $100 billion.intredasting
>>541097297All currencies are floating fiat. They're all bad, but some are worse than others. All the USD has to do is be better than all the rest, which it is. It's used for the majority of trade and central bank reserves. This will continue to be the case because the USA has the largest economy in the world, it has never been invaded successfully, it has two oceans for moats, 8000+ nuclear weapons and it dominates space. The USD will stay on top of paper currencies.
>>541097696You really have no idea, do you? You're a retard brainwashed by /pol/ high on your own propaganda.
>>541097604>But that won’t happen until afterchina is constantly cycling treasuries, that's how treasuries work, they mature and there's a third party market.china literally bought treasuries while you were reading this sentence. oh and now they sold some. and now they bought some again.I really don't see existential risk in china diversifying. we only represent 25% of the world economy, that used to be 40%, of course you should fucking diversify. it's embarrassing that they put it off for so long. trump and bessent are encouraging this in case you haven't noticed. it's no longer convenient to have a billion chink slaves sucking on our teat, excess laborers are a liability now, haven't you heard? when we saw you building skyscrapers we started asking questions, like, do you plan to export that skyscraper to new york, and if not, why are we paying you to build it? the decoupling will by necessity go both ways, that's all you're seeing. there will still be customers for our treasuries. -2% nominal / 6% real rates on an american bond will still be more attactive than -25% real rates on EU or turkish bonds.
>>541096992I panic sold SPCXbought 50k worth, made 300$ hahahah
>>541097784>They don't care to save the USA or the dollar. >The politicians currently in power are only looking to enrich their own.one is impossible without the other. they care, trust me. they can't sleep at night due to their sweatit's just that reallity has cought on with all the lies
>>541097696>the supplier doesn't depend on the demander.wow. "great" take there slovak
>>541097397Is it though?
>>541097776>yeah right, and then the easter bunny will comethis nigger thinks he knows better than a 5000 year old trend
>>541096255Death to America. They obey Jews and worship niggers. They deserve to be slaughtered.
>>541097828I don't care about Zeihan talking pointsalso, if you had any valuable info, you would have posted it.
Yellen did the same thing Bessent is doing now, and Bessent criticized her at the time funny we now have a George Soros disciple running the Fed
>>541096400Witnessing the culmination of a 100 year plan to enslave humanity
>>541097816you just wrote the theory how the whole USD as reserve currency started. protip: this isn't 1972 anymore.usd is in it's last leg, it's breathing last breaths before death
>>541097870your pedophile in chief thought the same with his tarrifs and it backfired spectacularlyyour glownigger arguments convince nobody
>>541097899amen
>>541097444Yeah, the US is immediately going to become chinese tier and use crypto and neofeudalism to keep both a high dollar and undercut you. So have fun with the literally apocalyptic hell you guys created.
>>541097843To be honest, what truly gives the U.S. dollar and U.S. Treasuries their value is the fact that U.S. military power can both protect and threaten everyone.If you don’t want to end up in trouble, you have to buy U.S. Treasuries.Financial considerations are actually secondary; buying U.S. Treasuries is essentially paying protection money.The problem is that the U.S. military’s recent performance in the Strait of Hormuz hasn’t been particularly impressive.New U.S. Treasuries will be backed by the gold standard. The amount of gold you hold will determine how much U.S. debt can be issued.The cost is that the U.S. dollar itself will depreciate significantly until the price of gold rises to its true value.The current price of gold is being artificially suppressed to a large extent; the true price may exceed $50,000/oz.
>>541097982>>541098019>your glownigger arguments convince nobodyI love when their projections get this specificit's like if I called you a 5'2 mexicanwhaddayamean projection, that's a perfectly normal insult!
>>541097982do you log onto your computer, huff from a brown paper bag full of paint thinner, and just spread that diarrhea you call wisdom on the internet?The USD isn't going anywhere, random internet retard
>>541097313>Buying yen is just a waste of money; Japan must sell U.S. Treasuries to obtain dollars.>No matter what Japan does, its economy will collapse.>And no matter what, Japan will have to sell U.S. Treasuries.yes it seems they are fuckedcovid got them in the endoh well
>>541096255"Two more weeks", right Ping-Pong?
>>541098154>>541098184the cope on these niggers, its hilarious
>>541098153with all due respect, you're falling for propaganda, objectively speaking.the states involved (the gulf states) have all come to florida or DC to say thank you for the defense and to buy more of our stuff. UAE, saudi arabia, qatar have all signed billions of dollars in new US defense deals since march.regardless, I don't think that's the reason we're able to export our inflation. it's related, but it's more about keeping commerce safe by making sure there isn't another north korea right next to europe's most important trade route. you buy our inflation because you have dollars to get rid of, and that will continue as long as anyone in the world wants to sell us stuff.
I'm just making this post to say I have no fucking idea what any of this means.
Is this where all the chinks, that have no money in the markets, start hyperventilating?
>>541097866Ok, but you haven't provided evidence or reasoning.The Euro was diminished once again by the wars in Ukraine and Iran (Russia and Iran were using Euros over USD). The Yuan is used even less than the Euro. So who is going to challenge the USD?
>>541098143>US is immediately going to become chinese tier and use crypto and neofeudalism HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA the niggers will simply eat you and the spics will supply the spices and herbs
>>541096255>Chinese government shill complaining about financial-economic cheat codesHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>541098285That’s okay, neither do they.
>>541096255Broke ass niggers buying its own crack.
>>541096386You're going to stagnate like Japan did?
>>541096255Why did anybody think putting this droopy lipped faggotry in charge of our money was a good idea.
>>541098153Yes this is the correct understanding.Now it's just waiting to see if someone else takes the place as sole protection against war, or if more agile co-operations are established (which do have a higher chance of conflict as there are more considerations involved.)
>>541096255‘
>>541098154>>541098270>no you are the slav, I mean nigger, I mean glow nigger, no i mean jewyou have some misunderstandings about economics and geopolitics. Thats okay. Just do some more research and thinking and come back to the discussion in a year or two ya dumb bohunk
>>541097894>Look at this made up pictureInterest rates were effectively 0 during the roman empire
>>541096255The end of Imperium Americana is near. The whole world knows it, the US elites know it. The only ones who don't know it are the common Americans. Some choose not to believe it, others haven't had the education to know it.The national debt of the US will turn the global power into somefhing that resembles Mexico.
>>541098452Japan is stagnating because a large amount of their income goes to propping up bad industryIt's the exact same thing the Chinese are doing.
>>541096267Good. First step in burning down the gynocracy.
>>541098153This was always the case historically, and I see no reason for it to suddenly change. The only debate is therefore are the Americans still hegemonic? If you consider their nuclear, naval, space and intelligence capabilities, plus the fact their mainland is very difficult to attack. I think the answer is clearly yes. However there are many disruptive technologies emerging and their dominance is not as great as it was (compared with the end of the Cold War).
>>541098798You call it education but what you're really doing is guessing. The USA's debt/gdp levels are normal. China's debt/GDP levels are substantially higher. Like 350-450% while the USA is around 112%. We're going to be just fine. Worry about your own brown country
>>541098870They value security, and fear change. Its cultural.
>>541096386>stops at 2018lol
>>541098955what are you talking about? Spain is doing GREAT. Booming industrial sector, the spainish tech companies have basically defined the last 30 years of innovation, I'm typing on a spanish keyboard right now, looking at my spanish monitor. Its not like the best thing to come out that country is taking a post-lunch nap or something.
>>541098955>China's debt/GDP levels are substantially higher. Like 350-450% while the USA is around 112%.China's debt to GDP is around 90%, retard. Maybe don't believe everything you hear on Fox Jews?>But if I add in private debtYeah now do the same on the jewsa side and watch that debt to gdp soar past 400% (probably way more now with all the AI-spending)
>>541098766interest rates never went below 4% during the imperial era and usually hovered around 10-12%, because the romans had a 12% cap on usury.don't know why you felt compelled to lie about something so easily verifiable.
>>541099065>China's debt to GDP is around 90%no it's not. The official lie is 90%, in reality it's around 450% this isn't private debt, it's local government financing vehicle debt, it's off balance sheet debt the chinese government moves around to obscure the origins of debt and make themselves look much better on paper than they actually are. This isn't fox news. Read a book.
>>541096255Is it the equivalent of eating your own shit while you starving ?
>>541099107Interests rates were about 0 for everything but payday loans (which weren't very common)Don't know why you think your little chatbot actually knows his shit. Lending was only for the elites up until around 200 AD
>>541099061>you've been here a whileand?do you expect me to commission a new study?real rates in turkey have been negative for years, and a few people in the netherlands and germany got negative interest rate mortgages in 2020.I would say you've been lied to about 0 being an arbitrary barrier. but nobody's actually lying to you about it, you made that incorrect assumption all by yourself.
>>541099150>This isn't fox news>Retarded conspiracy theory with no basis in factIt is though
>>541099218don't take my word for it, go fucking look it up. You have a computer. Do you want me to hold your hand while you act like a retard? Do you want to go make monkey noises in the mirror?
>>541099218>no way those hecking based communists would lie about their economy!Get a grip bro.
>>541099184don't know why you're lying about something so easily verifiable.if you want to make a point about ancient societies having based alternatives for social support including things we would recognize as free loan societies, you know what, that's really cool, thanks for sharing anon. no sarcasm intended.it's still a fact that if you needed to repair your granary but had no guarded storeroom of gold like those brutii and julii assholes you had to pay 12%, and that's only because the law said you couldn't pay more. laws like that exist for a reason.>the torah says don't sacrifice babies to moloch, now why would it say that?>roman law says don't charge people 30% vig, now why would it say that?
>>541099387I'm starting to seriously doubt the 1B population number. The whole "Hospitals and doctors get paid per birth so they overreported" seems so fucking plausible given that all chinese seem to want to scam as much as jeets.
>>541098353They will have good marbling and Taco Bell might be good again?
>>541096255Forgot your VPN?You will NEVER be a global power.
>>541097346It is absolutely true that the Russian state seized western corporations and market players, the difference is that they are doing so as a temporary measure to preserve continuity of operations as opposed to closing those businesses and losing jobs. What will happen when it is over is they will transfer ownership back to the actually ownership. You might get confused about franchises like McDonalds becoming Don Mac however, a franchisee does not have ownership of the brand- so if you're going to go it alone you have to rebrand. Screwed the franchise owner, sure, but they would not be allowed to make royalty payments to the franchiser because of western governments anyway.
>>541099557naw he needed some social credit fast, needs to ride the train tomorrow.
>>541098143>to keep both a high dollar and undercut youAre you stupid or something? You cannot do both and undercut people.
>>541099490There are something like 100-150 million of them that exist on spreadsheets only. Each local government gets funding allocated for the number of citizens they report, so naturally they all lie about their populations. Yi Fuxian puts the real number at around 1.28 billion and he's got some data to back up his estimates.
>>541098870No, it's literally because of negative yield rates.
Nothing will happen
>>541097694lmfaounironically that's what inflation is forsee on the left axis it says nominal rates?if the interest rate is 30%, but inflation is 40%, lenders still make money. same with -2% interest and 5-10% inflation, which the netherlands had for a brief period in 2020. we're heading there soon. you never bet against the trend for more than a day.
>>541099773That's the government trying to fix the situation, not the cause of it. Japan has been stagnating for 30 years not 6 months.
>>541099844Okay, how much money does an investor make on a bond with -2% interest rate?
>>541099952Anon, they have had negative yield rates for an extremely long time. It's why they are a massive holder of US Bonds, the Japanese get paid to take bond buyers money and they use the actual currency they print out as a result to buy American dollars with also pays them in a guaranteed yield rate- they have free money from the entire thing.
>>541099839LMFAO!!
>>541096594>I believe there is a way to resolve the U.S. debt crisis without causing the U.S. government to collapse.>That is through large-scale nationalization.>The U.S. government would dissolve the Federal Reserve and remand its operations properly and Constitutionally back to the Treasury where it belongs and never let another fake Federal Reserve Note be printed ever againftfybut the government "will collapse" because most of it is employed by the banksters
>>541096255>"her ass was this big, but she was 10"
>>541097120>I still remember how QE in 2008 was going to cause hyperinflation and the end of the USD.as finanon reminds us, the USD will always exist to long as there's a USAthe FRN, however, is going to die soon
>>541097166checkedthere was a meme that QE stopped, but reverse repos filled the exact same mechanism during that time, so there was no stop to banker corporate welfare
>>541096400Putting America down, as he was charged to do.We're supposed to play the role of Germany for WW3. Israel's crimes will be pinned on us
>>541096400Destroying america lol super based
>>541099984the delta between the real and nominal rateaka inflationask the german and dutch banks who did it in 2020
>>541098926>However there are many disruptive technologies emerging and their dominance is not as great as it was (compared with the end of the Cold War).Given the United States’ vast territory, resources, and nuclear arsenal, it could find itself in a predicament similar to that of Russia following the collapse of the Soviet Union.After the Soviet Union collapsed, Russia still possessed vast resources, but it lacked both the manpower and the funds to extract them.The vast majority of the country’s fiscal revenue is heavily dependent on energy exports.Furthermore, since the United States is a federal system, it is not inconceivable that some wealthy states might seek independence in the event of a full-scale economic collapse. That would make the financial situation of a “New America” even more dire.The United States will not disappear, but it will become extremely poor.This is the fundamental reason why Trump began advocating for the annexation of Canada and Greenland.Canada and Greenland possess extremely abundant resources, and Canada also has 42 million people who could be used as slaves.Canada alone would be enough to pay off $40 trillion in national debt, and creditors would have to spend extra money to extract the resources; otherwise, they wouldn’t get a single penny back.This sounds crazy, but considering Trump’s level of stupidity, it’s not entirely impossible.
>>541096594Yea, the debt doesn't matter. What matters is resources. If we nationalize key industries and put the profits to work building resources and new industries then we're doing great.
>>541097120It did cause 'hyperinflation', just in the value of assets and not in the broader economy as the money was given to investment banks and not the general population, this really kicked off the gap in wealth disparity, that's why QE during COVID caused a large spike inflation whereas QE in 2008 didn't
>>541097139Certain industries are still profitable and productive and make no sense being private, like mineral extraction and banking.
>>541096255> You print money and then buy your own bonds,isn't that just printing money for yourself?jews see no issue with this.
>>541100515Okay retard, what's the return on a -2% investment and since you want to bring inflation into it, go ahead. You might understand why it's ridiculous to want -2% as a yield rate.
>>541096255only fair it should match the depreciation of the U.S.
>>541098019>trump is a pedo even though I nor anyone else around here has ever seen a single shred of evidence for it, just a bunch of glownigger suggestions, but I 100% believe that shit>its bad to charge a fee to do business in the country, its better to make the plebes pay via unapportioned taxation that isnt even consistent with the bill of rights, but fuck them plebes, the corporations deserve it!when you watch someone believe some real things, and then a bunch of fake things
>>541099185>nobody is lying to you guys about the all the corruption and constant fraudthat's not true but even if it was it doesn't make the corruption itself go away, what's your point here?
>>541096386>>541100515> 18 seethe posts from this obvious coping muttoid patriotardlel
i owe you 40 trillion...so i just send you a bill for my services, say 75 trillion...now you owe me...fuck that was easy...
>>541098153In 2024, Xi gave a speech where he said he wanted the Yuan to become a global reserve currency. The speech was published in 2026.At the same time, China started buying up all the gold and the price of gold shot up.
>>541096594What's the point of nationalisation when the government is corrupt, incompetent, and hates their own country?
>>541100725>what's the return on a -2% investmentbanks aren't just handing you a pile of cash out of their vault when they give you a loan, anon.the return is the delta between the real and nominal rate, so about 8% in the dutch and german example.that's the same answer I gave when you asked what the profit would be. the answer isn't changing. lenders can (and already have) made profit from negative interest loans in high inflation environments.if you actually want to understand the answer you have to look up fractional reserve banking.>>541100812>that's not trueit is. in 2008 and 2020 there were a few articles about negative interest rates. in general it's not in the overton window, nobody is actively telling you interest rates can't go below zero, it's not something you learn in econ, it's just an assumption that's been proven wrong multiple times.banks do arbitrage. they don't give a fuck if their profit from the gap between -9000% and -9005% as long as there's a gap.
>>541100929thiswhy don't we all stop all the bullshit already?
>>541100574>If we nationalize key industries and put the profits to work building resources and new industries then we're doing great.The U.S. could do this, but doing so would be no different from overthrowing the government.Unless the U.S. were to produce a patriotic warlord willing to risk a civil war to save the country.In that case, the best-case scenario for the American people would be nothing more than an American version of the Soviet Union’s collapse.
>>541100880>1pbtid memeflagsomeone doesn't like the truth kek
Hey deflationiggers milk was cheaper at target isn't that supposed to ruin the economy
>>541096255The powers that be have a new system that has been in the development for decades now, ready to be rolled out in the coming years. It will operate in parallel starting sometime this year and by the next decade it will be fully operational as the Agenda 2030 goals are slowly being implemented.There will be no collapse, no violence, no uprising, no world war, no draft, no revolution, no killing of jews or politicians or other such fantasies. Instead there will be law & order, compliance and total surveillance until the very end. AI will be at the center of it all. The Great Reset is inevitable.
>>541101030>The U.S. could do this, but doing so would be no different from overthrowing the government.It's even harder than that, it's overthrowing and completely dismantling the lives of the top 10% of nation. It would take nothing less than a cultural revolution to force these people to give up their extravagant lifestyles and the control they have over everything.But yea it would take a patriotic warlord, many of them, because obviously we would kill them.
>>541101057cope and seethe eglin nigger
>>541101009>lenders can (and already have) made profit from negative interest loans in high inflation environmentsYeah anon, if the rate actually changes, if it stays at around-2% you get less money than you invested and that's without the effect of inflation furthering the loss. People having been paying the Japanese government to take their money. The only time you can turn a situation around is if your local currency is continually losing ground in value to the other in excess of inflation and the negative rate.
>>541096255>You print money and then buy your own bonds,isn't that just printing money for yourself?It's basically the US gov doing an adjustable rate mortgage. They don't want to be hung paying 5% for 30 years when they could only pay 5% for a year or two, and then potentially pay less when rates adjust downward. This is a nothingburger. Yellen was doing this under Biden. It is not new. It is not money printing. They're refinancing.>>541096594Oh, okay, you're actually retarded. The US gov could pay the debt tomorrow if they wanted without minting a new penny. The US dollar would also become unobtanium, because all debts were cleared meaning no more liquidity in the system. You don't understand this because you don't even understand what money is.
I haven’t been following much of the news about silver and gold but I just remember a rise in interest for them around the time of Covid, specifically silver. Then there was the pump that happened recently, which I still don’t understand what’s going on there. So, for the stackers out there, what’s the endgame here? If the economy collapses, what do you do with the metal? Sell it back for fiat? Trade a bard of silver for bread? I’m genuinely curious because the US is clearly fucked with no recovery in sight so I’m just wondering how something this plays out
>>541101365>Then there was the pump that happened recently, which I still don’t understand what’s going on there.>>541100979
>>541101317>They don't want to be hung paying 5% for 30 years when they could only pay 5% for a year or two, and then potentially pay less when rates adjust downwardThe rates aren't going to adjust downward in the era of de-dollarization because we won't be able to print money and export the inflation.Our only choice to save the country is to nationalize key industries and use the profits to build new one's.Or we can let the money become worthless and become a poor shit hole.
>>541100546The reason Trump spoke about annexing Greenland and Canada (and Panama) is because the USA defends their massive resources for them. They live safely under the US umbrella because America cannot allow Russia, China or another foe to capture or have bases in those areas for it's own defence purposes. He simply wanted them to pay for defence and they did. He asked nicely for NATO to pay more for defence in his first term, and they literally laughed at him. Even after Russia invaded Ukraine they failed to increase defence spending significantly, instead relying on America (Biden). Only when he started talking mad shit did they actually take it seriously. Similar story with Korea and Japan.
>>541101416How is that good for stackers though? USD will be useless at some point so what would stackers gain from holding metal? They will still need to get food and other things to survive and I can’t imagine it would be beneficial in the long run to waste ounces of metal for basic stuff
>>541097369>comparing Silver to GoldI think people really underestimate just how bad Hyperinflation in Germany was.You're not wrong but you are using the wrong chart on the bottom.
>>541101284>if it stays at around-2% you get less money than you investedis "you" still the banks/lenders?then no, they don't get less money, because their business is arbitrage.if the federal funds rate is -2% they will borrow from the feds and lend to you at 1%. if the federal funds rate is -10,000% they will borrow from the feds and lend to you at -9,000% and you'll feel like a fucking genius earning 90 times your money every year from those stupid bankers. meanwhile the bankers are still pocketing the difference and we're all paying for it collectively via 15000% inflation.it's not that complicated. lenders make money on the difference. the sticker price of a loan literally doesn't matter to them, when you get a loan quoted they check the fed rate and spit out a number where they make a profit. they're completely agnostic to that number.
>>541099839video is fake as fuck.
>>541101582>He asked nicely for NATO to pay more for defence in his first term, and they literally laughed at him.He asked rudely for marketing purposes, everyone agreed to pay and he's still seething about euros being bad. Because we're not israel.
>>541101607>USD will be useless at some point so what would stackers gain from holding metal?China is "stacking" so they can back the Yuan with metal so that the world will come to trust holding Yuan more.This means there will be and is more demand for metal, and metal will hold it's value better than the declining dollar.You sell some metal for currency. That's how you use it.
>>541101530>The rates aren't going to adjust downwardyou can't break this trend >>541096386
>>541101732Why do you even have to be asked? Russia is pounding your neighbour. You're acting like an Israeli if you're expecting America to pay for your defense.
>>541101746>you can't break this trendYou can if inflation gets bad enough.
>>541098432>41 year old Hormoozer when the pager finally beeps
>>541101972that's what's causing it thoughinflation and interest rates are basically two sides of the same coinas the world economy has grown, currency has always inflated away and interest rates have always gone downsince the bronze age, anon >>541097894
>>541101715Are you legitimately stupid? Do you not understand that anyone can buy bonds? Do you not know what a yield is? You lend the government money for a guaranteed but somewhat fluctuating return m there is nothing more than that. That is all there is.
Can someone explain why lowering rates would kill the dollar and how can I profit?
>>541102113I'm not going to explain what arbitrage is a third time, stay wrong
>>541102164evidently notI keep demanding the same thingthe chinaman OP started ignoring me and now all I get is ad homs
>>541102181You don't have to because you're a fucking retard that doesn't know what a government bonds is.
>>541096255They're not smart enough to know that
>>541102164>why lowering rates would kill the dollarIt would cause more money printing and inflation which would make the dollar more unstable and encourage dollar holders to seek more stable places to store their wealth, or more specifically it would make the soon to be gold backed Yuan more attractive as a global reserve currency.
>>541102101How are these interest rate figures from 3000 BC derived exactly?
>>541102279epic, does this work on you?you're a fucking retard that [sic] doesn't know what a keyboard is!good, now he can't type.
>>541102164Lowering rates is done by the central bank buying bonds from the market. It buys them with money that it creates. Therefore lowering interest rates increases the money supply.If the bond market loses faith in your money, then they won't buy at the lower price and you end up printing a shitload of cash devaluing the currency massively.
>>541097280"Total fluke" implies there aren't functional mechanisms to drive the economy this way. It's intentional, and serves only the global banking elite.
>>541096255>You print money and then buy your own bonds,isn't that just printing money for yourself?Yes. Problem, VPN shill?
>>541096255I voted for this tranny!
>>541102367Explain exactly what your retarded ass thinks a negative yield rate would do to the US dollars worth world wide.
>>541096267Oh, by the way, nothing will happen.
>>541096255I've asked AI and so should you: the US treasury is trying to spill its own debt to everyone, the new stablecoin issuing they're discussing does precisely that, but to retail customers rather than central banks and alike.The ECB is doing all it can to cordon off from the EU market , lots of interesting things going on right now.Soon the world's central bankers will meet in the US so expect finely weighted statements which will cause lines going up and down.The USD isn't finished but it's slowly resizing. Also the fed and treasury in the US are going exactly in the opposite direction with opposite goals, the speculators are placing their bets and the triggers could be either in Japan or the UK.The war in Iran was also very badly timed since put a financial strain precisely on Japan.
>>541102164>how can I profit?If nobody is buying bonds and the value of USD is going down due to printing then they have to buy other assets, like gold, crypto, stocks, houses.
>>541098353That’s an acceptable outcome for zog
>>541102350they used cuneiform tablets which are often preserved for future studyand it seems all they ever wrote about was merchant transactions and loanscheck out the world's oldest letter, it's about that cunt ea-nāṣir. can you believe this guy accepted payment and then delivered poor quality copper instead of the usual quality?https://linguifex.com/wiki/Literature:Complaint_tablet_to_Ea-n%C4%81%E1%B9%A3ir#English[2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complaint_tablet_to_Ea-n%C4%81%E1%B9%A3ir
>>541096255It’s deflationary unless they create new money to buy the old bonds. The economy needs all the deflation it can get its hands on. Current conditions are similar to 2019 prior to the Plandemic which was needed for mass global deflation and an excuse to start the money printers again. Expect a massive market correction soon (tm).
>541102407explain all the nothing it would do?ok donefucking time wasting retard
>>541102547>explain all the nothing it would do?Damn nigger, that's absurd.
>>541096255The funniest part is that the 30 year yields went right back up. So Besset decided to print DOUBLE the money to try to help Jewish shareholders and it did nothing AND it fucks over every single non-Jew American
>>541102452>asked AIWhy not just consult a Magic 8 Ball while you're at it?
>>541096535Trump has positioning the USA for nearly a decade to move to a new digital finacial system. This upcoming collapse is a scheduled event. Hopefully, it will free us from the monetary control of the Central Bankers but 2nd term Trump is nothing like 1st term Trump. He seems like just another captured Banker Asset now.
>>541096255>US treasuryKek
>>541096255It wont.
>>541101607>>541101734Considering how much worthless paper money the U.S. has printed over the past 30 years.I believe the true price of gold has actually been artificially suppressed.For example, through paper gold trading or by imposing higher taxes on physical gold transactions.If the true price of gold exceeded $50,000 /oz, I wouldn’t be surprised.After all, our government is discussing plans to restore the gold standard.The current low price of $4,400 /oz is completely insufficient to support the extremely high price required to restore the gold standard.
>>541102650Fuck off
>>541102452>I've asked AI
>>541102496>they used cuneiform tablets which are often preserved for future studyI don't think one year loans to farmers can be compared to selling bonds on a global market today to draw conclusions about what will happen now, the world is completely different
>>541098143>cryptoTrump family is using crypto to enrich themselves, nothing beyond that.
>>541102684I agree yea, but also I think China is conducting way more gold mining at scales never seen before so that will depress prices somewhat, but yea you're right.
>>541096594Beside that, IRI did the same during fascisms and beyond, the people at the helm of it were priestlike disciplined, the US financial credo is based on greed, risk and innovation, trying to lace it would be akin to the pope saying he doesn't personally believe in god.
>>541100574If you start pretending like the debt doesn’t matter, nobody will lend you the money that you need to invest in those resources. Money wouldn’t be able to buy imports because why would anyone want your money? Dollar value would collapse and the only way you’d be able to entice people to do the work that is necessary to develop your industrial base would be Stalinism.
>>541096255Daily chicken little thread.
>>5410971281kg of normal minced beef branded as organic and bio costs $20.The water-injected slop version is $10,60 per 1kg.Fuel is €2,30 to €2,60 per litre, both petrol and diesel.Especially the diesel prices are fucking us hard right now. All those trucks shipping our food to the markets man, it's a nightmare.
>>541102692The flak only gets heavy when you’re over the target.
>>541101317
>>541102805my conclusion wasn't based on sumerian loans only and you know it, faggot.see >>541097894 and >>541096386
Are we in for total economic collapse or not?
>>541103128please consult the chart
>>541102943>and the only way you’d be able to entice people to do the work that is necessary to develop your industrial base would be Stalinism.Yes, communism is the only way we fix ourselves, and I think we're going to do it.The most powerful and successful country in the world is communist and everyone will follow them and do what they do, just like everyone followed us in being jewish and destroying themselves for the last 70 years.The future is bright.
>>541099839would could foidistani even have done in that situation qnyway? except calling him a slur as he runs off into the sunset
>>541101009>banks aren't just handing you a pile of cash out of their vault when they give you a loan, anon.nope, they create new money out of thin air as a ledger entry, and you are expected to pay it back with real fruits of your labor while the bank can just keep making loan after loan out of newly created money that didnt exist before the loan was made
>>541103128Maybe not total, but the conditions in bonds and the price of oil mirror where we were in 2007, except this time we also have the declining military power of the US.
>new fed chair won't lower rates>treasury security then issues bonds, knowing the yield is too low to attract any buyers>fed is then forced to buy them>M1 increases without a FFR decrease>???>profitThis is not hard to understand.
>>541103015Over the jewish technocrats you shill for?
>>541096594Agreed. At this point nationalization would be the best outcome. We're already doing a lot of things through overpriced and inefficient bureaucratic private contractor deals. Let's build and take control of our infrastructure directly for the benefit of the people. Next step is to begin socializing middle class housing.
>>541101582>The reason Trump spoke about annexing GreenlandNo it's very obviously because he's obsessed with prestige and want to be remembered as one of hhe presidents who added land to the US.Any attempt at rationalising it as some sort of protective action is pure cope, as they already have full military access to the island.>He simply wanted them to pay for defence and they didChrist you're retarded if that's what you actually believe. The Danish military has not deviated from the plan that was put in place far before Trump got into office, and they probably wont after he's gone either.>He asked nicely for NATO to pay more for defence in his first termNo, he wanted, and still wants them to spend more on the failing American MIC because the US economy isn't growing fast enough to prop it up anymore>Even after Russia invaded Ukraine they failed to increase defence spendingNigger you're retarded>Only when he started talking mad shit did they actually take it seriouslyHe really must hold a lot of power to make countries increase their defense spending while out of office and pursecuted by his political rivals back in 2022.I'm so fucking tired of Anglo mutts trying to be political commentators. You know nothing outside of what your podcast hosts tell you to think.
>>541103631all he did was move the overton windowyou will cooperate on arctic defense, we will have all the resources we need, and if actually follow through on your impotent larp about blowing up the runways we'll invoke article 5 on your dumb unsuspecting asses
>>541096255Is this about some overnight bullshit as usual?
>>541101365>So, for the stackers out there, what’s the endgame here? If the economy collapses, what do you do with the metal? Sell it back for fiat? Trade a bard of silver for bread? you sit on it until the new economy stabilizes and trade it for the new stable currency.
>>541096255Hey wagies, how do you feel working your ass off all these years for nothing? America is fucking DEAD and the future here is unbelievable levels of violence.
BRING IN THE BIG GUNBRING IN THE 100 YEAR BOND THAT WAS PROMISED
>>541101725Is it?
>>541103906>you will cooperate on arctic defenseWe already did. >we will have all the resources we needI hope your own country's sake that you weren't planning to get that from Greenland.>we'll invoke article 5Lmao. You can't be that dumb
>>541096255and the bond yields *ARE GOING BACK UP*LMAO IT IS FUCKING OVER
>>541096255Buy gold and silver...for later.
>>541096255https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pex89N9Oqog
>>541097405>keep refinancing the debt ever 30 days so you never have to make the first paymentgenius
>>541096255A lot of the economy is a circlejerk and a scam. It all works though because the finance recycling has a function.
>>541104887>We already did.in english "will" is future tenseyes, you recently participated in acrctic exercises.you WILL continuned to do so.>I hope your own country's sake that you weren't planning to get that from Greenland.that's exactly what I meant though, it's full of rare earths and we will have all we need.>Lmao. You can't be that dumbnot an argumentthe arctic is critical to our defense and by extension NATO's defense. there's no confusion here, this is the message from all of NATO united in the last year. you won't stand in our way. we won't have to find out what would happen because your country also understands it's a fait accompli.all because trump moved the overton window.
>>541105154exactly, and states that buy our bonds are still betting that we'll be around in 20 years. and that we'll be credit-worthy in 20 years. the whole discussion of collapse ITT is based on them asking for a slightly higher risk premium to make that bet than they used to - highs not seen since 2007, or all of the 70s 80s and 90s.homeowners do it too during periods of falling interest rates.not every 30 days of course, since you get raped with fees that might as well be another 1-2% on your interest rate.
>>541102625Because either you have access, time and dedication to read all those technical news (mostly behind paywall) or there are now tools that , upon being asked nicely, can provide relevant info.I pointed out I used AI because no-one is going to read lengthy screenshot, and there's too much to summarise, thus mine is an invitation to use the same tools (google ai specifically) so each one can make their own minds.>Yes, exactly. At its core, the GENIUS Act is a brilliant trick to turn global crypto users into a massive pool of buyers for America's surging national debt.>The Law's Requirement: To be legally approved under the GENIUS Act, stablecoin companies must back their digital coins with ultra-safe, short-term U.S. government debt, known as Treasury Bills (T-Bills).>The European Union’s Markets in Crypto-Assets (MiCA) regulation is Europe’s primary defensive shield against the invasion of U.S. dollar stablecoinsI didn't read any of this so far ITT, plus> How the New EUREP Facility WorksThe European Central Bank designed EUREP to act as a global "lender of last resort" for foreign central banks.Trading Bonds for Cash: Outside central banks can temporarily trade their high-quality, euro-denominated bonds to the ECB in exchange for fresh euro cash.Those are relevant and valuable informations in such conversation, but it's very technical, the point isn't just what bessent s doing, but how other parties are reacting too.
>>541105221Simply having the raw material is not all you need. You can't do anything useful with the ore without refining it and only China has the capacity to do that.
>>541096255They're tightening the clamp around my balls. Making me pay for everything. Women are being MKUltra'd by satellite nigger demons that sell them on the deep web. ((They)) poisoned the well. I don't give a fuck. Taking a shit. Wiping my ass. I have to do this every day. Pisses me the fuck off. Wanna see some titties. Bitches stink. The clamp around my balls is tightened just a cunt hair. Jigsaw theme song follows me everywhere I go.
>>541097843China is the biggest manufacturing economy in the world, they are only really “dependent” on the US because of the petrodollar and capital investments. China also sees the decoupling happening which is why they are investing a fuck ton of money in their domestic consumer economy, and doing things like the belt and road initiative to create new commodity markets. The idea that Chinese workers are “sucking on the teat” of the U.S. economy is ass backwards, if anything it’s the other way around, the U.S. is dependent on cheap Chinese consumer goods. If China stopped all exports to the U.S. and dumped the dollar it would cripple the U.S. economy for years
>>541096594There is a way to resolve it. The US is going to sell its land to foreign nations. They won't tell the public thought. It's actually already happening.
>>541096255this works only for so long. it would be cool when mutts pull everyone down the cliff with them and the xinese take over so we can all become soulless zombies.never forget, the anglos did all this. they did all this because someone else was better than them. what a bummer.
>>541105221>in english "will" is future tenseIn English you also usually use capitalisation.Try to read what I said again, Sharma. I think you will find that a correct reading is that we already did work with the US before Zion Don started his first term.>that's exactly what I meant thoughBut you won't get any resources from the island. At least not unless you're willing to pay more than 600% more for it than other global sources.>the arctic is critical to our defenseOkay. Real dumb of the US to make enemies in there then. Still doesn't explain why you think you could invoke article 5. Nor why anyone but the decrepit US military would answer that call.>there's no confusion here, this is the message from all of NATO united in the last yearDo you per chance think that your puppet president and his friend the NATO secretary has any control over the rest of the countries making up NATO?>you won't stand in our wayBut say that we did, what then?>we won't have to find out what would happenTrue, but that has way more to do with your dementia patient president than anything else>all because trump moved the overton windowI mean, he hasn't. Not anywhere but in the mind of the most deluded mutts. But hey, it's nice to see that you're exercising some creative writing. It's good for the brain.
>>541096255Let's hope this bob sponge is not a real person where Jews attacked his livelihood as a guy with a boaters license that works at his boat a 12 foot Boston Whaler. Then your arresting him for what Jews say. He doesn't have a boaters licence. Kosher kike fact check. It's 20 question on the internet and the license comes in the mail there is no age limit.You are so under arrest for talking back to the Jews we don't like it.Now years later your relaze sponge bob who wasn't allowed to have any Independence or livelihood is Satoshi naka-moto_Carr. No you are Autobanned stupid fuck goyim and that money is going to Israel for antisemtism.What do you mean he said go fuck yourself and die?
We are obviously heading to some kind of debt jubilee/system reset.
>lol
>>541106314They have been trying to reset the goyim money game but Bitcoin is the thorn in there side that non one trusts (((them))).
>>541096400Putting down an empire of jew loving pedo rapists who murder and eat children is pretty fucking based. He may be a jew cummie loving fuck, but he's truly winning. The more he wins, the more the jews are fucked.Its awesome. Killing an empire by giving the jews utterly everything they ever wanted and showcasing them as the supreme leaders who controlled the degeneracy of the empire everyone hates. And then doubling down after doubling down. Full speed acceleration.Watching this shithole burn will be pretty kino. I was tired of watching it rot, nice change of pace coming.
>>541099065>China's debt to GDP is around 90%, retard. Maybe don't believe everything you hear on Fox Jews?If you haven't even read about the continent-sized mountains of debt hidden just beneath every surface of every region in China and the many creative ways the CCP sweeps it under the rug continually then you really shouldn't even reply.It's not even about not trusting the official (bogus) figures, this is something even prominent CCP economists have warned about (naturally half of them got disappeared not long after they spoke out). It's as >>541099150 says, closer to 500% than 100% just all constantly repackaged and bundled up into ever riskier ever more explosive debt instruments and sold on to "private" investors. Look up China's household and corporate debt and be amazed.This is why Chinese simply refuse to spend much and not save as much as possible because everyone and their mothers know at any time all hell could break loose and this being China it'll be life or death. People can't even invest in anything "safe" like real estate because there are billions of homes too many and most RE is made of tofu and styrofoam, gold is risky (to keep) crypto is "banned"/"prohibited", money is as worthless as money is elsewhere but perhaps even more so because the CCP doesn't like anyone but them having any, and the stock market is even more volatile and much more scam-ridden than most developing economies. It's also one of the many ways the CCP keeps a stranglehold on the country because they fucked up so bad and so hard they pretend they're the only ones with any hope of keeping it all together much less fixing it, which of course is nonsense but they have the monopoly on writing the official lines and they've even trapped enough foreign capital that not many foreign institutions would dare to argue, and that's just one of the levers they hold against the rest of the world since it made the stupid mistake of handing Beijing power around turn of the century.
>>541106428It's just one stupid goyim kill the guy with the scratch on his face.That's the leader that's the one who recovered the stolen keys to the nuclear football under William Clinton.Kill him already so we can get are mkultra pod person replacement in get someone that will play ball with us rather then keep telling us to fuck off and die..
>>541106540Oyy vey you stupid fucking goyim Antisemtism has no place in the modern world not even on a remote island.Ohh crap the goyim know about the remote kike pedo Island... This is Trump's fault.
>>5410965321) All it means is the Boomer's house is not worth as much as he thinks it does. that's all. So the average Boomer is significantly more poor than they have been boasting about for so long.2) None of this matters for people who: (a) are not over leveraged with debt (b) who do not depend on a stock portfolio (c) nations and principalities that produce energy in the form of petroleum (debt=energy promises)
i enjoy betting against rigged markets
The government has to bail out the USA. Bill Gates and Google are the government, for instance. They have to buy these US government bonds. It's their republic, it's the American's.
It's motocross and motorcar your a fucking idiot.In Japanese it's motocar mottoCarr you said in English it had 2 rs...I am a racist fuck this gay as game where is the compilation fuck your kike mouth let's fight.
>>541106997not the Americans' republic*
>>541105754it's not hard it's just dirty>>541105951>america's slave factory is the biggest factory in the worldcool>and now it's diversifyingabout time, jesus christthey should have started decades ago>If China stopped all exports to the U.S. mutually assured inconvenience>>541106123>we already did work with the USin english "will" is future tenseyes, you recently participated in acrctic exercises.you WILL continuned to do so.you in english "will" is future tenseyes, you recently participated in acrctic exercises.you WILL continue to do so. very simple, I'm sure you can understand.>you won't get any resourcesdon't be stupid, those resources are critical to our collective defense and will be exploitted to that end. importantly, NATO is united on this. people like you who want to get in the way of exploiting critical resources for our collective defense do not have any political power.all because trump moved the overton window.>But say that we did, what then?you won't, because the other NATO members AND YOU are united on this issue, thanks to trump.if you did though we'd obviously invoke article 5 like I said, you can't just threaten to blow up runways that we're using as part of a united NATO defense-industrial plan. not even the fringe of danish politics treats it seriously any more. denmark standing up to NATO and blocking the exploitation of critical resources went from a serious idea to something you can't even articulate a justification for, in less than a year. that's what an overton window shift looks like.
https://youtu.be/4fi-B9jJtHg?is=cprNJ_zJ8ucQc4Fq
>>541106997Satoshi naka-motoCarr now has more money then bill gates. How don't you ask your fictional heros to help you?
>>541106307>>541105951>>541106119>>541105895>>541105754>>541106314>>541106396>>541106428>>541106540>>541106559all of these guys with their drumpf emperor did this and now they cry the loudest while their empire goes to shit.at least the germans go down in flames with them and no one is winning.>wake up and ready to winfor you pieces of shit its waking up and suck on israels cock, so deep and good that you suffocate.the jewish people will teach you bitches. this is so based of them. i love my jews. jews are the best. bless israel.>wa wa wa its da joosanglos only cry when theres someone better than them that they cant sabotage.
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>>541096255is the economy collapse in the room with your now chang?
>>541101667There really is no need to estimate, we will find out first hand soon enough.
>>541107090all this kvetching over gas pricesif you're that bothered, get in a boat
>>541096255Welcome to the last 20 years.This is because we bailed everyone out in 08 and we'll figure out some retarded way to bail everyone out this time so it's even worse next time.
>>541107080The Bitcoin guy? If he is a spook then he should pay too. Basically, the guys who are rich because of this gigantic mafia that calls itself the government, should bail out the government.
>>541096255>You print money and then buy your own bonds,isn't that just printing money for yourself?Retard. The Treasury cannot print money without an order from the Federal Reserve. We literally gave up our monetary sovereignty to jew bankers. Only the Fed can create currency. Same goes for most other central banks in big economies. China is the only exception that comes to mind where their state actually owns the money printer. ECB, Bank of London, the entire Anglosphere, and Japan are some examples where jew bankers control the money "printer" instead of their respective governments. The Treasury can only spend tax money and borrow if there is a shortfall. It's illegal for them to just print money and pay for things with suitcases or pallets of cash.
>>541107184we pay for your gas you stupid asshole. we pay 8 bucks allready for a gallon and you pay half of it.this is in our back off course, but your gaslighting.no need to talk to you, the jews will rip you another asshole.>wa wa wa its da joos
Honest to god what do we even do at this point? Buy acres of land, and start forming our own country, stock up on ammo, and learn to farm food?
>>541107090Right in the show he is spongebob Illuminati square pants.Yet in real life he makes his money from crabs and works at his 12 foot Boston Whaler named the crusty crab and makes his money from crabs and Jews are directly attacking his livelihood was slander that he doesn't have a licence to operate that boat?In the photo I just see a light preserver square buckle over his pants holding "Patrick Star". It's kind of amazing the level of autism Santoshi naka_motoCarr fuck everything kikes say.
>>541096255They really fucked themselves over by trusting the Jews over the Iran shitWhat a shame
>>541097397defaulting would erase jewish wealth and the companies they claim to own overnight. It would utterly collapse all banking institutions who have a death grip on white nations. It would cleanse the political system of all jewish operations as the backlash of every western economy in the world dropping below great depression levels of economic activity in a matter of days destroys the current jewish society of slave vs master.Hell yea, it would cause a lot of problems. But the different being everyone would get beat in the face with those problems, and those who are not jewish oligarchs would immediately have a chance at life. Hyperinflation is just papering over everything to save the 'elites' while sucking off the last of any wealth and power the lower classes hold dies.A soviet style collapse is far better than what happens when hyperinflation hits the west.
>>541107299Hopefully youve accumulated enough Karma to live off.Also, hopefully you havent sold most of your Karma for some quick cash.
>>541096255>>541096400It was already collapsing, whoever's in the oval office is irrelevant because no president ever cared since the aforementioned terminal niggerfaggot Woodrow Wilson. Its all jewish circus until it burns down and the ashes blow away.
guess what you need to do to get rid of DA JOOS. you have to start being honest with yourself and this is what you can not do.>fuck i must admit that im a retarded mouthbreather>hell no>id rather dieyoure all going to die my dears. this is part of the game.
>>541096255no mr. trump, i'm not tired of winning
>>541107450>germ admits he is a retarded mouthbreatherCool, so what's the next step in your master plan? Gay sex with immigrants?
fantastic, keep on crying.
>>541098270It's called mutt brain
>>541107450Salvation only comes from da joos.If Jews say you don't have a boater's licence it's antisemtic hate crime to defend your livelihood agist the slander and kike pitbull of da joos!
>>541107411I’m afraid I sold it all for magic beans
>>541098127>>541097899RIP my goyest soldiers, their sacrifice wont be in vain (i'll be making money off their deaths)
>>541096255Oh yeah, and what are you chinksects gonna do? Come and collect?
>>541107652Yup salute to the goyims who paid the ultimate sacrifice I will be selling every last organ from their body as Jewish property.
>>541107644Magic beans is exactly what i meant. Very good little one. Plant them.
>>541107296>we pay for your gasI know isn't it great?I heard russia has gas, why doesn't someone should build some kind of baltic pipeline?
>>541107652Yup 35k to go die in some shit hole.Then I find out they are actually paying you at the rate of the president because you recoved the stolen keys to the nuclear football under William Clinton.What the fuck no Shlomo is going to delete all of these records and steal your combat pay. This is not kosher you make 35k to die in some shit hole in a war I started then I sell your dead fucking body for 2 million dollars. Then the Jew finds out your get upward for 100k.This is Nazisim.. fucking Nazisim.
>>541096255Y’all are so dumb. When the stock market crashes (and it will) money will flee to the bond market.
None one time you actually did anything for me sence I am so fucking ungrateful?I am acting like littery Adolf Hitler.Jesus Christ he really was to nice to your kind. Delate this targeted harassment video.It's not kosher.
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Name one thing you actually did for me sence am so fucking ungrateful.Shut it down that's not possible we are not having this conversation.Your are acting like littery Adolf Hitler.
>>541107544Hey buddy, you gotta click the numbers to reply to people. I know you're unbearably retarded and obnoxious, but you gotta get your head in the game.
>>541107053>very simple, I'm sure you can understand.The fucking irony.I'll spell it out for you then. We already worked with the US, the so called moving of the overtoner window that you're seemingly hard coded to respond with has had no effect.>our collective defenseNo. It's really not.>and will be exploitted to that endThe US has had that ability to do that for 70 years. They haven't done anything yet, and they probably won't do anything in the future either. The reason for this is pretty simple, it's not profitable.>NATO is united on thisNo they are most certainly not. >people like you who want to get in the way of exploiting critical resourcesYou think I control the weather? That would be quite impressive.>for our collective defensYou keep using that term of phrase. Can you even articulate a reason for why it actually is?>because the other NATO members AND YOU are united on this issueBut we really aren't is the thing.>you can't just threaten to blow up runways that we're using as part of a united NATO defenseIt's not really a threat when the explosives are planted and ready to be used in case of the US trying to do a landing on the island.And ahain, the US can't really trigger article 5 when it's attacking a member nation. If anything, it would be invoked against the US. Not that I'm delusional enough to think that anyone would do anything about it.>not even the fringe of danish politics treats it seriously any moreCorrect, it's pretty mainstream. >denmark standing up to NATOThat's not what we did though. Never was.I don't quite understand why so many NPCs have been programmed with that argument.
All I care about is how this will positively impact Israel.
>>541108317>the so called moving of the overtoner windowis beyond evident.your position of denmark standing up to NATO and blocking the exploitation of critical resources went from a serious idea to something you can't even articulate a justification for, in less than a year. all because trump moved the overton window.
https://youtu.be/hZ7ZMS9_PAI?is=4niq3jW5Q9QGLLWM
>>541107965The bond market would need to be seen as a safe investment. Is that likely?
>>541108441This is fictional you never owned a boat named the crusty crab and made money from crabs. You know before I sold crabs I sold farm fresh eggs. Why don't you go dye some and teach your mother to suck them..
>>541108554If the economy is gone then the bonds are only gonna be worth the paper they're printed on, because there's not gonna be a currency or buyer for those bonds. Nobody wants to support weimar conditions
>>541108646in global weimar, we're still the entity most likely to be creditworthy in 20 years. and I just checked, the afghani central bank doesn't sell bonds. also it sounds like its name is in pidgin lol>Da Afghanistan Bank
>>541108646Was $2 now said I did it again at $4.Why whould I sell outside of my community if I see it as a benefit to are population for the service. After all you want against my livelihood with more than 14 billions of dollars of propaganda that I didn't own a legal license to operate the equipment for my job. No I don't think I want to even give you a irs stub. There is no legal requirement that your party is allowed to see it.
>>541096400>>541096604Saw some post on it the other day that seemed accurate, America's just doing what every empire does. We won a bunch of wealth and power in the mid 20th century, leveraged hard on it because we assumed good times would continue forever, good times did not continue forever, and now the existing leverage is unmanageable while the barbarians wait on the borders to swoop in and loot what's left. The smart people at the top are preparing their exits.I think that's all the Greater Israel project is about, the Jews think they're going to get their exit strategy by ruling the Middle East. Ashkenazis can only blend in with Whites and their life strategy doesn't work if they can't blend in, and the White countries are all declining (and becoming less White anyway). So if Ashkenazis can't blend in anywhere that will be stable, they have to transition to an overt Jewish state that's made up of just them.Except they're not going to succeed at that either with how Iran is going, so we can expect much more panic and flailing as we all go down with the Jews. Something many Whites are committed to doing, there's huge amounts of Christian Zionists here in America who are just as invested in this as the Jews are, and then a ton of moneyed Whites on top who are just as invested in the financial system that is crashing.
That $1,700 you had as let's say a water man because a crab is not a fish. That you invested into creating bit coin I have permits mr. Carr Mr motocarr because they steal from you should belong to them because if they had say so they whould have already stolen it from you by any falsehood deceit slander or even murder possible.
>>541096255The treasury can't print money, they exchanged some long term debt for short term debt to pump the stockmarket ... for 5 minutes.5 minutes was all Trump junior needed of course. No one can time the market like a Trump.
>>541108862Lmao I forgot ebonics had a real name and it was Pidgin. Also we might be closest to getting back on our feet, but that>globalIn your post is a bit optimistic. Some countries are tied to our ponzifiat petrodollar but I still think big players like China could hold steady the entire time as we rebuild.
>>541108974Iran is not the problem, their fundamental problem is that Israel is full of jews.
>>541108974I guess America is acting like Britain in that it's willing to doe for Jews, but this isnt how an empire should work.
>>541109293they're going to keep selling us stuffwhich means we're going to keep giving them dollarsand they're going to have to keep unloading those dollarsyou can't do much with them besides buying treasuries or foisting them off on someone else...who will buy treasuries with them.the connection to oil is vastly overstated. we flood the world with dollars simply by buying things. the fact that countries three and four trade their oil in dollars is just a side effect of there being so many dollars floating around from us importing manufactured goods, not oil.
>>541109603I am just so mad that by the time I heard he was the boss of him that I went to where he works to say it not how real life works. Then he said he was basically still the boss and does do much more then make the name tags.
>>541109603I have no doubt China would try to sell us shit, but I doubt they'd want jewpaper instead of gold/silver after any impending collapse. We'll have to watch and see, much like everyone else. The suspense isn't exactly thrilling
>>541109841>finally find a real anon who makes good faith posts>page 10every time
>>541109951Tale as old as time. See you, space cowboy
>>541109841Now Jews are going to steal your money again because they found out you where the boss and no one chould fire you but the owner. It's the crusty crab all over again.You because a hacker and do stupid things for cash and have a reputation of doing stupid things for money... Aaron of Annapolis Md.The hacker Anonymous.I don't know be if he's the real McCoy. I'd pay this hacker for my stupid problem
>>541109402Yes, Jews are heading for tragedy because they do not understand themselves, something the Greeks wrote into every tragedy they ever staged. You can succeed in this world no matter who you are as long as you understand who you are. But when you don't understand who you are, you are bound to fail.>>541109551That is a good point too, they already did this to the British Empire at the start of the 20th century. But the burden of the British Empire got shifted to the USA, which is ironic since our foundation was rejecting that same empire, and Washington warned us to never try to recreate it. He wanted us to have more of the Chinese mindset, to be concerned with ourselves only and let the rest of the world alone.
You hacked the bank.Over locked the hack exploit with the password RedN0vember.You don't know it but corpare had a wet dream. The 4 other people who built bit coin came because you did it.
He's a coward he plays stupid then sneaks up and racks a round into the camber 1 foot from your ear.
