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The Ashkenazi uber IQ myth, which conveniently appears after Jews start really dominating finance and universities in the 60s onwards, is really just a clever smokescreen to calm people who have serious questions about why 2% of the population control every major power structure. The first major book arrives a few years after the foundation of the Federal Reserve as John Spargo's 'The Jew and American Ideals' that promotes this as a reply to Henry Ford's 'The International Jew', but it was then heavily used during the 1930s and 1940s as 'anti-Nazi propaganda' having its major work - Cecil Roth's best-selling and error-ridden 'The Jewish Contribution to Civilization' - published at this time but there are multiple other examples of it being invoked in shorter form around the same time and earlier (Arnold Zweig's 1934 'Insulted and Exiled' and Sidney Osbourne's 1939 'Germany and Her Jews' etc).

It then got heavily propagated after the war into religious circles by the jew Max Isaac Dimont, who wrote his best-selling 'Jews, God and History' as a long claim of jewish superiority over non-jews with a religious patina as to appeal to 'Christians as being converts to a form of Judaism'.

Most of the evidence for Jewish IQ relies on shaky tests of poor sample sizes from the 1960s and 1970s, and many of these tests are used - by people like Steven Pinker (a Jewish supremacist evolutionary psychologist who is in the Epstein Files) - to demonstrate the likelihood of high IQ, but are not actual IQ tests in and of themselves. Number crunching data from Israeli student academic performance averages (below every single European country) and IQ tests of IDF soldiers gives a pretty banal number for Jewish IQ level, 98-101, which would be higher than East Mediterraneans but identical to most of Europe
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We have autosomal genetic data for modern human ethnic groups, and Jews are not unique. They sit on the East Mediterranean genetic cline, alongside South Italians, Maltesers, Island Greeks and Cypriots, and are extremely close genetically to these groups despite isolation and inbreeding, which has inflated their FST distance. East Mediterraneans (sorry Sicilians) have the lowest average IQ levels in Europe, and frequency of their male haplogroups in a population correlate with lower IQ levels also. This doesn't mean they don't produce scientists, geniuses and clever people, it doesn't mean they are on the level of an African, but it does mean their baseline IQ is actually slightly lower than other White Europeans. If the Jewish average IQ of 107-115 is true, it means they have a mindboggling IQ advantage over people genetically almost identical to them greater than people who have been evolutionarily separated for 50000 years. For reference, Koreans and Japanese people have the same genetic distances Ashkenazi Jews have to Cretan Greeks, and their IQ averages are identical. Also, even though it's connection to intelligence mostly considered a pseudoscience today, it should be pointed out that in the craniometry surveys of physical anthropologists like Carleton Coon and Bertil Lundman, Jews tended to have slightly smaller skull and brain sizes on average than White Europeans (and White Europeans had slightly smaller skull and brain sizes on average than Scandinavians).
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>>541100184
Another common argument is that Jews practiced eugenic marriage of scholars and the wealthy, and constant repression make the Ashkenazim develop unique mental faculties. But most of the Jewish population was rote learning scripture just like most of the Muslim population, and most Jewish wealth historically comes through moneylending, which isn't particularly mentally taxing. You might ask yourself, why have no other religious minorities undergone this rapid selection for intelligence due "suppression" and "scholar marrying" like the Ashkenazim purportedly have? Where are the uber IQ Druze, Ishmaelites and Alevites? They encourage their scholars to reproduce and they underwent repression for 100s of years, but they don't control the fed and every newspaper.

"But the Jews are overrepresented in Nobel Prizes! Surely this is a sign of uber IQ!" Firstly, A lot of 'jewish Nobel winners' - especially the earlier ones - are part-jews (usually 1/2 to 1/4) who didn't identify as jewish in their lifetime (e..g., Adolf von Baeyer) plus one gentile convert to Judaism who is usually falsely lumped in as jewish (which is a contradiction in terms). There are several 'jewish winners' whose priority for the research that got them their award is subject to strong doubt (for example Gertrude Elion for 6-Mercaptopurine for when she was just a glorified lab assistant to George Hitchings and Hitchings all but later stated that Elion had filched his research; another is Baruch Blumberg who basically stole Alfred Prince's research on Hepatitis B and was awarded a Nobel Prize for it in 1976; another is Selman Waksman who stole Elizabeth Bugie's research on Streptomycin and presented it as his own to get the 1952 Nobel Prize for Medicine etc).
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Jews actively prevented other non-jews whose work they stole from getting Nobel Prizes for example Paul Ehrlich basically stole the work of Sahachiro Hata on Arsphenamin then deliberately hobbled three attempts to get Hata a Nobel for its discovery (in 1911 for Chemistry as well as 1912 and 1913 for Medicine) because Ehrlich had publicly stolen the credit for the discovery with the assistance of jews in Hollywood (specifically the Warner Brothers). The closed process of prize winner selection has a bias towards Jews, as there have been instances where scientists as influential as the man behind the 1000 Genomes Project was skipped over for a Jew who did research on Annelids. As Swedish academic Jan Biro has pointed out the 'jews have won so many Nobel Prizes' argument actually shows the opposite of jewish achievement when contextualised with patent filings and percentage of jewish population. In reality, data demonstrates Jewish presence/percentage doesn't correlate to invention/innovation at all, while the Northern European presence/percentage within a population does. Scandinavians have the highest rate of innovation per capita.

Yet another problem is the lie that the arrival of Ashkenazi Jews in Western Europe are when Jewish takeovers of the institutions begin (because their uber IQ made them simply outcompete all the White people fair and square, duh!). This is untrue, Sephardic Jews have a long history of the exact same phenomenon. Sephardim were infamous for their overrepresentation in both Visigoth Spain, the government of Al Andalus and early Castille prior to their expulsion, as in the case of the converso over-representation in Juan Alfonso's court, which was at least 33%and lead to riots. They were also hugely overrepresented in shareholders of the incorporated Bank of England central bank, as well as on the Dutch Stock exchange (as Sephardic crypto Jews from Spain flooded the Netherlands), so this is not an Ashkenazi phenomenon
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>>541100140
Great thread OP. I wish you many cold victoria bitters at 20 to 8 in the morning
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>>541100184
Newsflash:

The true jews are arab admixture and typically retarded. The ones with western or eastern European roots are 100-110 iq like other whites. If you were to unite just a few million whites as a chosen group and learn all of them huge in group preference from birth then something similar to the jew would be the result.
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But when Whites want to do that said jews do everything they can to destroy it while preaching in-group preferences among them is wrong.
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>>541100140
I never met a high IQ kike. They are all midwits at best, pretending to be smart by using fancy words and mental gymnastics when they argue.
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Indeed, this subversion of state institutions by a racecult mafia has been going on since ROMAN TIMES, long before any purported "selection events" or even the ethnogenesis of the modern Jews, who are autosomally 40-60%+ White European, took place.

>CICERO (Marcus Tullius Cicero). First century B.C. Roman statesman, writer.

>"Softly! Softly! I want none but the judges to hear me. The Jews have already gotten me into a fine mess, as they have many other gentleman. I have no desire to furnish further grist for their mills." (Oration in Defense of Flaccus)

>Cicero was serving as defense counsel at the trial of Flaccus, a Roman official who interfered with Jewish gold shipments to their international headquarters (then, as now) in Jerusalem. Cicero himself certainly was not without significant political influence himself, so for someone of this stature to have to "speak softly" shows that he was in the presence of a dangerously powerful sphere of influence.

On another occasion Cicero wrote: "The Jews belong to a dark and repulsive force. One knows how numerous this clique is, how they stick together and what power they exercise through their unions. They are a nation of rascals and deceivers."

Finally, Judaism's undying ethnonarcissism and belief in Jewish supremacy has been a hallmark of the religion since the beginning. Jews mutilate their penises and eat kashrut to keep from associating with foreign races and cultures. Children are raised to believe their "souls" are higher than non Jewish "souls". The entire Jewish parasitic life strategy involves an unerring belief they are uniquely chosen by god, that all the wealth of the foreign people rightfully belongs to them.

>TACITUS, roman senator and historian. "The customs of the Jews are base and abominable and owe their persistence to their depravity. Jews are extremely loyal to one another, always ready to show compassion, BUT TOWARDS EVERY OTHER PEOPLE THEY FEEL ONLY HATE AND ENMITY." circa ~100 AD
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Consider how narcissistic personality traits lead a person to naturally overinflate their own intelligence, and also that narcissistic and discourse dominating personalities often appear more intelligent to people. Jewish chutzpah, extreme arrogance in the face of disagreement or in the defense of a lie, is infamous. The narcissistic-psychopathic, Talmud and Torah entrenched belief in the Chosen-ness of the Jewish race came first, and the modern day pseudo-scientific rationalisations have followed. And valueless shabbos people, seeking validation and enrichment from Jewish privilege, continue to promote and validate this lie.

>Make a mafia around your race, give preferential treatment, jobs and low interest loans to others of your own race and bully everyone else out of your business or government department
>They are all atomised individuals and have no organised recourse against you despite being less corrupt and better qualified
>Atomised Westerners who were never raised to think tribally start worshipping you as a high IQ master race and try to suck up to and marry into you (they fell for your bad faith studies and propaganda)

Individuals can't fight mafias, it's simply impossible. Thats why they want westerners all cultureless and hating their race. Anything that increases the number of atomised individuals increases a Mafia's power.
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>>541101071
They don't even care about finding the truth or getting to a higher level of understanding about a subject they debate. They just want to win the debate even if they know they're wrong.
>Atomised Westerners who were never raised to think tribally start worshipping you as a high IQ master race and try to suck up to and marry into you (they fell for your bad faith studies and propaganda)
True. Dimwits are their true enablers.
>Individuals can't fight mafias, it's simply impossible.
There was an Italian series called La Piovra, about a cop who fought the Mafia and was eventually killed by them, but died a hero. Heroes rally the masses to a just cause and then the Mafia is powerless. That's why they made-up imaginary heroes for the masses instead of allowing them to continue honoring real men that fought and died for what is just.
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>>541100140
Jews are so dumb, they control the whole world….wait
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>>541100140
It is a myth they have fabricated since WWII especially. Easy to fake when you control publications, and funding. Destroy zionism, erase israel. Free Palestine!
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>>541102955
Their means to control the world don't reflect a high degree of intelligence or virtue, but rather a high degree of moral corruption and lack of scruples.
Good men are followed and supported for what they are, not because they trick people and use underhand methods of mental enslavement.
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>>541100412
Kind of a woke more correct moment since the new antisemitism views them as turbo whites
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to debunk the jewish high iq myth you just need to switch on your tv, radio or another propaganda outlet from jewtube to fuckbook...
just superficial, egomanic, degenerated, devilish ideads pushed by the biggest scum humanity ever saw
btw, the only way they could own all this was by destroying every nation that had potential to get infront of em, so these fucks are just demonic, not smart
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Fun Fact:
Israel ranks 49th in the World in average IQ.
Average IQ in Israel is 92.43.....Lower than virtually every single European Country.
It is Lower than Bermuda (93.48) or Latvia (94.79)...heck it is even lower than Cambodia (99.75)!
Claims of having higher IQ are bogus!
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>>541100140
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/
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>>541100208
20% of the Israeli population is Arab, not Jewish.
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I think you need to distinguish between phenotypic (expressed) and genotypic (innate) intelligence. Genotypically they're just white people - the whole "muh Ashkenazi supergenius reproductive bottleneck" thing is bullshit. Phenotypically however, proper development (read: reading a lot during childhood and adolescence) does make you smarter (and vice versa, a deprived developmental period makes you stupider - someone with a baseline genetic capacity for intelligence of 100 might get up to 110-115 if they grow up with good enrichment / nutrition / etc., whereas they might end up at 85-90 if they grow up starving in a war zone). As such it is PLAUSIBLE that diaspora Ashkenazi (who stereotypically live highly literate upper middle class lifestyles) have an average IQ of 105-115, but not because of "innate Jewish superintelligence" - they're just white people raised in a good environment, and you'd observe the exact same thing if you tested well to do New England WASPs, Manhattan-raised rich white kids, or even just a normie middle class bookworm. Their disproportionate success comes down to, as you mention, intense ethnocentrism, which both acts as a force multiplier on their ability to achieve high station via having a massive built-in and highly cooperative networking group, and also inspires feelings of contempt for and feeling threatened by the parent group, which makes them amoral "winning first" neurotic strivers (euphemistically whitewashed as a "culture of achievement"). Absent this ethnocentrism (or if whites exhibited the same degree of it) they'd be, at best, mildly overrepresented; as usual the problem comes down to DER ANGLO and their intense classism and autistic commitment to liberal individualism, which both inspires contempt for their lower class co-ethnics (disincentivizing ethnocentric cooperation) and makes a secular religion out of not being collectivist (which is in practice only applied to white people)
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someone has to have that IQ graph showing all the countries average IQs and it shows Israel at like 70 iq right above Mexico
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>>541104580
>Lower than virtually every single European Country.
Ahem. I guess you're excluding Romania and the Balkans.
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here, high IQ jewish genius tunnel digger!
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I can break this down even further, jews took the tests of philosemites named Lynn and Meyers, the golden standard was the Stanford-IQ test which jews found to be anti-semitic (because they scored low)

Et voila
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>>541100140
they only have to be smarter than politicians like trump.. which isnt hard
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