Life was better under Clinton
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FakeIt was never zeroThey just moved social security inflows into the general funding
>>541110320Why don't you just go all the way and admit that Hitler was right?
>>541110467Remove tranny
>>541110320Newt forced his hand, but Clinton did eventually go along. Crediting Clinton is a bit like saying OP has had heterosexual moments just because he doesn’t have a dick in his ass in perpetuity.
>>541110433And?
>>541110320There was lots of pressure from congressional republicans to do this.Then the neocons started middle eastern wars.
>>541111149It's an accounting trick, not actual progress. Just like Bush classifying fast food jobs as manufacturing. Politicians lie, you need to accept this.
>>541110320Selling off your last manufacturing base has that effect
What if we just paid it all off?
>>541111253How? You have less tax revenue, retard. Private companies own factories here, not the government.
>>541111317We could, but what if instead we gave more money to Trump's family?
>>541111229They do accept that, but only for 1 side.
>>541111229I'm willing to bet even by whatever accounting standards you want to apply we still weren't 40 trillion in debt under Clinton's term
>>541110320>eliminated the deficit>muh budget surplusthis is just you being too retarded to understand that these are lies
the guy who thought empowering china was a good idea? Are you retarded? bro just wanted to plow that underage fortune cookie and look at the results IE canadian citizens getting organ harvested and chip embargos
>>541110320Trvke
>>541110320>Life hadn't yet become unlivable under ClintonFTFY. It was well on its way and Clinton didn't help matters offshoring 1/3rd of of our manufacturing capability.
>>541111543No shit, inflation is cumulative and compounds. Are you pretending to be retarded or is this your normal self?
>>541111353Do you think the guberment doesn’t get its cut?
>>541110320i shook bill clinton's hand when i was a little kid. and i managed to do so without getting my asshole fucked, thank you very much.
>>541111976>It doesn't matter that every administration since him has cut revenues and increased spending, it's just inflation broNow this is retardation
>>541111317Impossible in a private central bank debt based system you can’t pay off debt with more debt plus intrest.
>>541110320>>541111313>>541111087
>>541112206Now that's what I call...not an argument.
>>541111543Someone could argue that biden and zognald's kike handlers have devalued the dollar to such a comical extent the 40t$ isn't really a big deal, soon they'll print 1 million jewbucks banknotes and the national debt will look manageable.
>>541112277>N-nuh uh!Lol
>>541110320Wasn't that passed by Republican majority Congress?Anyways, how awesome were the 90s under Clinton? Pic related
I admit that life is always better under democrats.
>>541110320Wasn't that under a Republican congress after the Reform Party caused waves?
>>541112490Refute it then.
>>541110320they had balanced the budget!
>>541112547>>541112601don't we have a republican congress now?
>>541110320Republicans had full control of congress for 6 of the 8 years that clinton was in office. Clinton had control the first 2 years then lost it to the republicans.
>>541112602NTA but anyone with eyes can see you are wrong and have nothing to say besides inflation happens which has nothing to do with the deficit existing.Thank you for your attention to this matter
>>541110320This didn't zero-out the national debt.This was "our spending this year is equal to the taxes we'll charge the American people".
>>541110320Clinton was responsible for the subprime mortgage crisis. He was not a good president.
THE ONLY GOOD PRESIDENT ANY OF US WILL EVER HAVE IN OUR LIFETIMES IS TRUMP AND THEY HATE HIM FOR IT,..R?EMEMBER THAT
>>541110320>we made a completely fake number go to zero!wowwwwww
>>541112908Dubya had 6 years to do something about it but didn't
>>541112719you're going to have to balance that with how many of them have aipac handlers
>>541110320What was the purpose of that poorly drawn O with the exclamation point?
>>541112999does this retard really not understand that dubya and clinton were on the same glownigger team?fuck's sake
>>541111317There isn't enough money for that
>>541110320Yeah, NAFTA was absolutely good for Americans
>>541112389They've actually floated the idea of minting trillion dollar coins to pay off the debt. I'd imagine even the goodest goyim of normies would have a hard time ignoring that jew trick.
>>541110320Clinton ended deficit soending because the Republicians draged him kicking and screaming into it.There was no surplus. None at all. Any surplus they told you they have a a projection 10 years out based on y2k spending. It never hapoened.
>>541112838The deficit exists because of fiat credit and people's debts being written off, including major businesses and through accounting manipulation, the government's as well. Inflation is cumulative and compounding because of this and people continuing to use it. Try harder.
>>541112719Bunch of cucks.
>>541110320Life was better under Biden and Obama.
If the dollar retained its purchasing power in the year 2000 the national debt would have gone from $5.66T in 2000 to $8.9T if you're using the realistic Shadowstats method for calculating real inflation. The dollar has devalued a shitload since 2000 which is why these numbers seem so fucking insanely large. The jew goal is always to outrun the debt via inflation, not to pay it off at the value it truly was worth when acquired.
>>541111543You just moved the goalposts to the moon. The economy hadn't been exported to China under Clinton either and yes that started under Reagan but Clinton signed NAFTA and started the process of bringing China into the WTO. Enough with the retarded left/right shit at least on economics. The amount of "small government" Reaganomics retard conservatives is tiny now unless you're talking boomers.
>>541111317Shitty thing is you already paid it. You paid it via inflation. The people that didn't pocketed that money and are richer for it. They sure didn't pass on the money printing in wages, so unless you bought shitloads of equities (and unless you're well off, you didn't and it wouldn't have been enough), you got fucked. You got pointless wars and graft.
>>541113261Basically kills the bond market and I'm not sure that's a bad thing. Point of it being would be to put investment dollars somewhere else, probably equities. Could also cause immense asset and commodity inflation.
>>541113868this is why glowniggers threatened Ross Perot or his family until he dropped from the race
>>541110320Clinton would be called a white supremacist today. He came before the left became suicidal.
>>541110320clinton was the moment where the us became a one party state under the capitalist unipartyfuck clinton
>>541113435Obama forever killed off what was left of ok race relations. This was a good thing because niggers arent human and TND cant come soon enough
>>541110320sadly true. And every day Limbaugh was on the radio behind his golden microphone going on about how terrible everything was.
Life has never been better under a Republican unless you're filthy rich and want those tax breaks and bribes to enrich yourself at the cost of the country collapsing.
>>541114298Obama killed them by getting elected, causing the birth of the Tea Party boomers opposing his existence instead of any policy and birtherism (the latter started by Trump himself)
>>541110320That doesn't say much money is becoming worthless since 1913. No policies can stop or make the situation better with the never ending inflation, which kikes tell you it's good?
>>541113435You didn't have to live under Obama.
>>541111317Cool it with the antisemitism Buddy
>>541114648Obama also made Hillary Secretary of State and deposed Ghadaffi, and egged on Trump into running, so you can blame him for those as well.
>>541112107You seem to not understand how a budget works.
>>541110320You base this on what? National debt? Considering things got dramatically worse after Obama took office, that's probably a better starting point.
>>541110320Okay, but how much of that was just a factor of problems which were already baked in not having reached the point of becoming critical yet? I am not going to say Bush jr. wasn't worse, because Bush jr. absolutely was worse, but Clinton wasn't *good* he was just *less bad*. It's like the difference between having your dick slammed in a car door and having it stuck into a blender. They're both actively making life for Americans and the rest of the world, Clinton was just doing it less aggressively than Bush jr. did.
>>541114298Obama Derangement Syndrome is one of the most consequential political movement
>>541113287Yep, it was a balanced budget with a plan to eliminate the national debt in some amount of years I don’t remember. 9/11 made sure budgets no longer got questioned.
>>541110320It was Robert Reich, but Clinton got the credit. Millennials were so optimistic about their future, but every president since then made it even worse
>>541115487>Could have been my sonNah he was horrible for race relations.
>>541115487Yes, media and establishment constantly rimming his half nigger ass hole while refusing to question anything he did was a harmful derangement.
>>541111317Literally not possible anymore. The interest on the debt grows much faster than increases in productivity happen. Paying off the debt could be accomplished by hypothetically just printing all the money and handing the now massively devalued dollars to the creditors, but that would pretty much instantly destroy the dollar. The only reasonable course of action is to just repudiate the national debt. The state had no right to incur debts on behalf of the populace, and we have no obligation to pay them. The creditors who gave the government money on the understanding that they would be paid back with stolen or counterfeited money can get fucked too, they knew what they were doing.>>541115497Every time I think about the world we could have had if the government hadn't responded to 9/11 the way it did I get so fucking mad.
>>541110320Clinton deported 13M people.This number is insanely high for modern standards. Trump, on his first 4 years, only deported 800k. Less than Biden would deport after him (counting all types of deportions).
>>541110320I like when Clinton signed the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, it provided $9 billion to build new prisons and enough funding to hire over 100,000 police officers.By 2000, the prison population almost doubled.
>>541114648>opposing his existence instead of any policythis dumb nigger thinks he can just rewrite history and people will accept that completely fake and gay garbagego back to plebbit you retarded troon
>>541110320Democrats are literally 70% of the country's accumulated debt, and 90% of the debt we've accumulated in the last six years.Go figure democrats cherry pick their degenerate presidents when it suits their purposes. Clinton is a national hero because he reduced the debt, but the orange man is the antichrist, even one has been conclusively proven to have sexually assaulted a woman in office, and the other only has tabloid court convictions.
>>541115084>and deposed Ghadaffi,that's a heck of a way to describe running guns and mercs into Libya to bayonet Khadaffi's asshole for the transgression of threatening to create a gold african dinarreminder the first thing that happened once he was gone was they took Libya's gold, just like they did with Ukraine
>>541115785Fucking super predators, H-dawg warned us.
>>541115497>it was a balanced budget with a planfake and gayyou werent even born when clinton was president, faggot
>>541114648>birtherism
>>541114648>birtherismthe birth certificate was a proven fraudand they killed Loretta Fuddy to make sure she wasnt questioned about her part in producing it
>>541110320Only in the same sense that early stage cancer is less painful than late stage cancer.
>>541110320That's nothing to brag about. Countries can continuously issue new debt to pay off old debt. Countries can borrow shit loads of money and never have to pay it back so it's utterly stupid to run balanced sensible budgets. Massive amounts of money should be borrowed and re-invested in infrastructure.
>>541116061Correct, I was born when Ford was president.
>>541116163Holy shit an MMTer in the wild!
>>541110320Things always get worse, so this statement is correct without really saying anything.
>>541116309oh, another one of those old retard leftoids, fighting today for the corporations he used to hate until told otherwise
>>541116484I don’t know what you are going off about. Did you somehow surmise I was crediting Clinton with something good? Newt Gingrich forced him into balancing a budget while both pretended they put the country on track to eliminate the deficit years down the road. Clinton did pave the way on cashing in on Chinese influence peddling though.
>>541111543Good lord you are genuinely retarded. No wonder you're a braindead leftist.
>>541110320It was unironically Newt Gingrich who balanced the budget.
>>541110320Tell a democrat that life was better under Bush Jr than Obama and watch how they seethe tho.
>>541110320Reagan gave Clinton the foundation, Clinton set up the country for 2008 due this policies with Cuomo.
>>541111149thats the equivalent of borrowing from peter to pay paul
>>541116837Reagan was the first president since ww2 to make the debt balloon. Reagan is the foundation of the debt crisis.
>>5411103201pbtid.
>>541112908>>541112999it was your lolbertarian queen, alan greenspan
>LIFE MUST GET BETTER CONSTANTLY I MUST HAVE MORE STUFF MORE MORE MORE MORE NOW NOW NOW MORE MOREkek boomer behavior, people blame boomers for selling the future for momentary gratification but then do the same exact thing and shit their pants if food prices double (if you wanted to not burden future generations with debt then food price would increase 10x)
>>541116883Reagan wasnt president in 1971 when we went off the gold standard
>>541117417Getting off the gold standard wasn't the cause of the debt. Lowering taxes while increasing spending is the cause, and it was Reagan, Bush, and Trump who did that.
>>541115735What way to do it is to cancel the national debt in stages. Basically pick out domestic lenders that we borrowed from and say "we've already paid back the full amount of the initial loan plus some extra, we're not going to recognize unpaid interest any more. You got your money already, you won't get any more from us."A big chunk of the oldest loans will evaporate immediately, and the interest from them disappears as well. This will shake the markets and piss off a bunch of people, but while the banks will take a hit the fact that you are (for now) choosing to honor the rest of the national debt keeps the system from completely collapsing all at once.Then you wait a while for the banks to stabilize a big, and you do it again. Eventually you establish that perpetual interest will never be honored, banks will get back a flat return on their investment that once paid off the whole loan is repaid in full. This allows us to keep borrowing, and the banks DO make money from lending to the government, but the amount they can make off of the government is capped instead of being a perpetual debt engine with ever-increasing interest.
>>541110320Bill Clinton was not responsible for any of that shit BTW. Cold War (started by America) ended. George HW bush, despite the shitbag faggot he was, was the last president to stand up To Israel and tell them "no". Clinton is remembered fondly only for the circumstances he found himself in that were beyond his control. The economy was good in the 90's largely due to the dot com internet boom. Then there was a crash that is conveniently left out, but neither had anything to do with presidential policy.In reality Clinton set us on the trajectory we currently are on and set up the current conflict in Europe. Setting Ukraine against Russia and NATO expansion all began under Clinton. His aggressive policy towards China also encouraged the beginning of China's militarization against the US in the Pacific. His policies actually created many enemies of the US and far reaching consequences that have damaged us immensely. He was a fucking degenerate too.
Spending can never be realistically expected to decline in a democracy. Republicans will claim they want to slash spending, but that’s because they’re retarded and think half of our budget is dedicated to government sponsored ballerina camps for trans youth. Republicans disproportionally represent the main demographic aided by spending: the elderly. This means they get their tax cuts but never reduce spending, which requires the money printer. Democrats at least pair the complementary economic depressants of spending and taxation which is better than only practicing one of the two.
>>541117757And of course, not to mention the illegal NATO bombing campaign against Serbia and the nonsense intervantion in the yugo wars, where we helped muzzshits create fake nations in europe, then helped ehtnically cleanse Christians from their own homes. Then there was Janet Reno Waco Ruby Ridge bullshit. Then he woud distract everyone by playing a saxophone and everyone thought it was really cool and shit. Hate this Epstein-befriending nigger.
>>541117584>Getting off the gold standard wasn't the cause of the debt.when retards cant detect root cause
>>541118135Alright, I'll play along. Explain us how getting off the gold standard forced 3 specific administrations to massively increase the deficit.
>>541110320Too bad he gave in to his carnal desires inside the oval office
>>541116076>>541116143Imagine being outsmarted by Obama.
>>541115084The dumb bitch also gave Lavrov a literal Reset button.I never see anyone call Obama a Russian asset over that or the fact nothing was done when Crimea was annexed. Same with European leaders.
Daily reminder that if you just freeze spending, everything gets fixed automatically.The national debt is only an overspending problem. There's plenty of money to pay it off, but Congress just always spends more every year.
>>541119091No one seemed to care when debt hit $1 trillion or $30 trillion. At that time, interest was likely building as fast as it does today.
>>541118215>Alright, I'll play along. Explain us how getting rid of any physical limitation on debt/money/spending enabled basically all subsequent administrations to massively increase the deficit.are you seriously asking this?
>>541111141>>541111224>>541112547>>541112601>>541112769>>541116650>>541116747It was a bipartisan agreement that included large cuts in defense spending and tax increases, which Republicans opposed. After taking back the executive branch, the GOP rammed through tax cuts which immediately unbalanced the budget.
>>541111543Hey dumb fuck. We did not have zero debt under Clinton.
>>541118675>when Crimea was annexedCrimea is mostly Russian, and they seceded from hoholvilleIts the same with the other eastern provinces, except they made the mistake of not opting for protection from the jews in kievIts dumb to say these places were annexed, when the people who lived there said fuck that I dont want to deal with globohomo jews
>>541119933There wasn't any physical limitation. It was already possible to borrow and print money even on the gold standard. What, do you think that the money was literally made out of gold coins until 1971?
>>541120041Sounds similar to Gaza. It'll eventually be mostly Israeli and they'll end up seceding to Israel.
>>541117668You're one of those people who doesn't actually want to stop being robbed, you just wish getting robbed was less inconvenient. Fuck you and fuck everyone like you.
>>541120212No, it's literally the opposite of what you're implying. Crimea was only incorporated into Ukraine in the 20th century under the Soviet Union for mostly bureaucratic reasons. It wasn't some ethnic thing, it was purely just shuffling some land from one administrative subdivision to another. There are a lot of explanations people give as to why it was done, but in my opinion it was probably just to make it so that the railroads that went to Crimea from Ukraine didn't have to go out of one region, into Ukraine, and then back into that same region. Outside of Soviet bureaucracy Crimea has literally never been part of what people generally recognized as "Ukraine" until the 1990s. Russia retaking Crimea is more like the East Bank being reabsorbed into Jordan or something, but even less dubious than that.
>>541120195>It was already possible to borrow and print money even on the gold standardthis is how I know you're being a disingenuous tard, acting like removing the gold standard didnt really have any effects on the costs of anything, or deficit spending, or budgetsat least I know you're an asshole not debating in anything resembling good faith at this point
>>541110320He borrowed from ssa receipts to cover it. There was never a surplus, retard.
