Portugal and nederland both have had huge seafaring history, both a close related language to their big overweight neighbour.Are dutch and portugese litterally 100% the same people?Spain = germany Portugal = colgateMakes sense no?Why would both coastlines have a small seperate country
I always wanted to smell a sturdy dutch queen's vagina
>>541111876Since portugal is dutch, brazil by proxy is dutch
>>541112036You now remember Dutch Taiwan
if you ain't dutch you ain't much
Not the same people.More like.....it's more like convergent evolution but with history.
>>541112442Are they my dark brown cousins atleast?We’re not so different, they and we
>>541112336Its our rightful clay.>>541112345No lies my eastern european friend
>>541110640Well that's a bit insulting all things considered.
>>541112911I mean personally I Am not concerned with strictly enforcing national identity and shit. I just care about my dutch heritage. So whatever, fuck it. I need to read more about Portugal relation to the Netherlands though.,
>>541113147Cool. Your grandparents where dutch?
>>541110640there are actually a lot of similarities between portuguese and dutch (hollanders especially). popular portuguese cuisine : >bacalhau = kabeljauw>tosta mista = tostie ham kaasalso a lot of their dishes are just potatoes with some form of pork or fish. Very northern euro like. I consider portuguese a more refined and higher IQ version of spain. They are def western euro material.
>>541113319Based bong, how do you know all thisYou a chef?
>>541113254Yes, My great grandparents immigrated to the united states from Holland some time during the late 1800's. We still celebrate our Heritage in my town every year around harvest season with a big festival. We used to have traditional dutch dances where people would get dressed up in traditional garms, but, they haven't done one in a long time. Settlers moved here because the land was fertile and chose this spot specifically because it reminds them of the Netherlands.
>>541113582South dakota? Minnesota? Celebrate in your town so there is more dutch heritage people there? Very cool. My dad went to the usa and canada with one of his brothers in the 60s or 70s, one of his aunts lived there so they visited and ofcourse did a huge road trip. Im not sure where she lived, i will ask
>>541113582Where from NL where they from, do you know?Was it like government funded emigration or did they save up money to go?
>>541113820It's in Texas, actually.Yeah I am very proud of my heritage. It's important to know where you came from.That's cool, actually people are still immigrating here. I dated this dutch immigrant girl way back when. Her being a first gen immigrant.>>541113906I Actually don't know. I just know they came from holland. Sadly a lot of my families history has been lost to time. I had a house fire recently that was responsible for a lot of lost photographs. My mother passed away in 2018 and I was an only child. The local government was trying to incentivize people to move here which for agricultural purposes and to connect the area to the broader economy via railway.
>>541113820I'm not dutch but I lived in western michigan which is one of the most dutch places in the USA. Everyone had dutch surnames and were tall as fuck. The local politicians are all dutch. They even have a dutch version of wal - mart called "Meijer". There is a yearly tulip festival too.https://youtu.be/twwv7dEVxBQ?si=olsArCKs4yEXs63s
>>541110640no
Portuguese woman have delicious hairy arseholes
>>541110640It favoured the british empire, so these provinces were able to stay independent and persevere. Notice they are all atlantic microstates facing wayers that the British have a high interest in
>portugal>close related language to spanishLOL no. We can't understand shit. We are far FAR more closer to italian. I would say even french is closer.
>>541110640No because we are poorer than Spain.Also Dutch are like our Nemesis you kept stealing our stuff in the colonial days.
>>541114317>My mother passed away in 2018 and I was an only child.Is this real? This and the house burning down?>>541114525Woa, i didnt know that! Michigan eh? Why there though? Is it a swamp like NL?
>>541115368They came in the 1800's, I think it was a religious thing. There are some amish families in the area too and they speak this weird dutch hybrid language.
>>541115368The house burned down around 2024 they didn't happen at the same time.
No, we kicked the jews out and the Netherlands have received them . Not joking go check it out
>>541112911they are partly your cousins. germanic tribes migrated into iberia 2500 years ago and did a little blanda up with the natives and romans
>>541115676A lot of our early "dutch" immigrants were actually sephardic jews yes. In fact the American revolution was partially funded by them.
>>541115676I know this because of Spinoza
>>541115847no they weren't and no they didn't you stupid faggot, take the vpn off. there was one jew who contributed an insignificant amount of money
>>541115030You don’t want to understand Portuguese because you’re all stuck up gilipollas with a superiority complex. You literally have to be willingly obtuse to not understand Portuguese as a Spanish speaker and vice versa.
>>541110640Did the germans also constantly stab the netherlands in the back AND allied themselves to another big boy country in order to try and take yours from you through wars?Cause if yes, yeah portugal is like the netherlands.And portuguese people nowadays say spaniards are like our brothers, FOR SHAME, they constantly tried to take our country! Even allied to france they couldn't win a 31k vs 6k battle! PUSSIES
>>541114994But the dutch had many naval battles with the english
>>541113906i lived in haarlem for 6 years and lisbon for 4
>>541115595Wow, good that you’re still here
>>541110640>netherlandsthat is part of germany yes?
>>541117883>oddly specific expert on this very topic
>>541115143Never trust a colgate on a ship
>>541117494> Did the germans also constantly stab the netherlands in the back?They took our grandfathers bikes
>>541118445>not ready to give up his bike to defeat judaism Pannekoekenrevolutie when?
>>541113906some of the biggest active dutch heritage communities are in western michigan (centered around Holland, Michigan) and Northwestern Iowa. Dutch community in Northwestern Iowa is highly religious and has strong community. average fertility rate is like 3.2 children per woman
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>>541110640No tribe on earth comes even close to us in terms of achievements, least of all the portugese who beyond some explorers, have produced extraordinarily little of value
>>541120941and western michigan dutch community has average fertility rate of ~2.1
>>541120941How do you know all this
>>541121580Because this is my country???
>>541121701But also I have a complete, extremely detailed demographic understanding of the US due to immense research
>>541121739Like I understand the US to a degree I don't think many others can match
>>541117895Thanks anon
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>>541121739Was the usa created by freemasons with selfdestruction in mind? Is it all according to plan?
>>541122434>selfdestruction in mindNo. The founding fathers were some of the greatest men to ever live in my mind. The fact that the USA has gotten where it is today is nothing short of proof of their genius. They had the foresight to create immense amounts of prosperity to an extent the world has never seen before
>>541122516Did they know of the plans from the federal reserve debt based system to eventually destroy the usa and the west?
>>541122516Although reading your question from a different angle; if you mean did they think about the possibility of national self destruction and planned ahead for it, then the answer is yes. They put guardrails in place to minimize the damage
>>541122645Of course not. A good heurestic to keep in mind for the US is the following: As time since the signing of the Declaration of Independence increased, so did the Size of the Federal government. This has been one of the most consistent trends to define US History
>>541115030This is just patently untrue. You can mostly understand Portuguese. Not French or Italian. Only Catalan is a bit closer to French
>>541122892From when on did the jews take charge of the usa, is it from kennedy or even before that? Are rockefellers jews for instance? Wheree the rockerfellers good for the usa in your opinion?
>>541122942Well southern France originally spoke languages from the Occitan family, which Catalan is very closely related to
>>541122988It's hard to say exactly when jewish influence started to really become a significant force in national politics but I'd wager it to be around the late 1960's.
>>541112336>Taiwan
>>541122942>>541123027By knowing Catalan it became weirdly easy for me to understand Italian.I'd say Italian is far closer to Catalan than French.
>>541123363catalans, southern french and northern italians are very closely related. Have you ever heard venetian?
>>541123363well I speak Italian so I will watch a video in Catalan to determine if I agree
>>541122516Yeah real genius move to put all men are created equal in the Founding documents then import millions of niggers>>541122988Jews by way of the Rothschilds and its agents, Belmont (Schoenberg) and JP Morgan, took full control of the dollar in the late 19th century
>>541110640Dutch are Germans. Low Franconian is dialect.
>>541123430I tend to assume Catalan is closer to Italian than French due to my personal experience and also because in the Middle Ages the Crown of Aragon controlled half of the Italian peninsula.For historical reasons Italy must have had far more influence on Catalan (and likely the other way around too) than French ever did.>Have you ever heard venetian?No.
>>541123433>>541123363>>541123430I see many similarities definitely. They use the same words in the same places as in Northern Italy.
>>541123784in italian too it would normal to say alla montagna for plural "mountains", too.
>>541123544Why did you take opa’s fiets, hans?
>>541123476Probably all heavily invested/owners in raytheon and boeing and such
>>541123652"French" comes from Ile de France in northern France. it's a langue d'oil. standard italian comes from tuscany, which is closer to catalan counties
>>541123784I'm hearing french for some reasonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gyKLNQH44I&t=29s
>>541125142>I'm hearing french for some reasonI grew up speaking venetian so it's distinctly venetian for me. But maybe for others it sounds French idk
>>541110640>22 posts I'll bitePortugal and the Netherlands have been enemies since the Dutch gave shelter or refugee status to our jews out of anti Catholic (or maybe even actual anti Christian ) by their protestants who were just tools of the jews against Christian Europe.Eventually our jews came to dominate the Netherlands and that's how the Netherlands became a big power: By completely praying upon our empire and killing the Portuguese overseas to please their jewish masters.If you want to get exoteric some say the fate of our enimity was forged at the very beginning of post Roman Europe:The Suebi went to Portugal, being Southern Germans (High Germans?) and they did so very early establishing the first post Roman Kingdom in Europe even before the Huns arrived and they just wanted to be left alone.On the other hand the original Dutch - the Franks - were West Germanics (Low Germanics?) who took over the Low Countries and then West Germany and Northern France and established sort of a big Kingdom and then the great post Roman Empire, but they did so very late and intended to conquer as much of Europe as possible. The two countries have since had completely opposite characters: The Dutch are too urban (in the sense that they live tightly together in a place and tend towards commerce and such) and want to control the world out of pure materialism, they also tend to serve jews;The Portuguese are too much down to earth (I'd say even agricultural or nature bound) and want to be left alone and impose a spiritual empire based on based Reconquista and establishing an Empire to hunt down whoever doesn't leave us alone (like jews and moors) until the end of the world. It is what it is.
>>541110640No, Spain is not like Germany.And no, Portugal is not like Dutchland. Except in the size thing. Although I admit there are many interesting similarities now that I think about it.One thing is certain: Since Rome fell, among the "small" nations of Western Europe... we have always been the largest and most powerful.Although the Dutch are much much more than we are, but that is probably a recent event post the Industrial Revolution and there are way too many Portuguese in Galiza and especially in Brazil.
>>541125721>I grew up speaking venetianThats pretty rare here, how did that happen? My great grandfather was from right outside Verona
>>541117494Spaniards are indeed our hermanos / brothers. They tried to take our country, sure, but all brothers fight sometimes. Still we are kindered people.
>>541126637>Thats pretty rare here, how did that happenMy grandparents all born in triveneto region
>>541126695Do you feel any kinship with Italian - Americans who tend to be southern?
>>541126374Heady mixture of nonsense and butthurt you got there nigger, kekBut no, your jews weren't all that influential during our golden ageContrary to /pol/tard lore the VOC was fully Dutch and we ourselves invented the stock market, the corporation, and government bondsAt most your jews fucked around with slaves and at plantations in the West, mostly to become a massive pain in the ass for usIt's funny you fell for jewish self-aggrandizement out of sheer butthurt though, lmao
>>541126779I first think it's a misconception to identify italian americans as like all being southern. Most are, but significant portions are from central and northern italy. For example abruzzo and liguria respectively. And since I grew up near many others of italian descent, yes, I feel italo-american and growing up it never mattered what region of italy your family was from. I knew people from Campania, liguria, sicily, calabria, veneto, etc
