Buy me a house or I'll vote for Stalin, no cap. Give me free healthcare too.>"Don't blame young people for being sympathetic to socialism." - JD Vance
>>541115987Stalin wasn't socialist though the communists had schizo episodes about it.
>>541117093Scandinavia is socialist and they're turning into a shithole like the rest of socialist Europe. Government is just the local gang of rapists.
>>541115987>gen z >some brown jeet>nooo it's achilles!!Actually it's not 'gen z', it's just brownoid invasion. Every brown country is like that
>>541117093What you fags fail to realize is the left's modern agenda is self-defeating out the gate. The state can't afford to pay out the benefits of its' people if it's also going to open its' borders and extend those benefits to all the illegals. You're not going to have affordable housing while the state is putting extreme tax and regulatory burdens on developers. You're not going to have affordability while also creating artificial scarcity over climate change initiatives etc...All this doesn't matter because once you vote them in you're not voting them out. California for everyone.
>>541115987They need to think about the economic consequences of unrestrained wealth redistribution. Nobody is going to produce anything if the government is going to 'redistribute' it.
>>541117286>Scandinavia is socialist and they're turning into a shithole like the rest of socialist JewmeriKa Fixed it
>>541117093It works in Norway because its all by and for Norwegians, and only Norwegians.Norwegians are an economic boon to Norway, so there is not a deficit when re-investing into Norwegians.anyone who you say this to will 100% glitch out/change topic/start accusing you of some bias without fail.
>>541117286Scandinavia is in a much much better state than America. I have visited both many time.
>>541117286Kikemerica is supposed to be this capitalist utopia and it fucking sucks harder than Romania tho
>>541117557>You deserve to get fucked and pay $500/month for healthcare cuz black people exist>Where would we possibly get the money for universal healthcare? It needs to be this way>Another hundred billion to Israel btw
>>541115987>gen zJeet looks like a middle aged guy lol
>>541117705>>541117657>>541117461>>541117286It's about the percentage of brown people. Socialism or capitalism has its own problems, but they can be worked through if you have whites with common interests working to build the country. When you flood the country with nigger foreigners, you have people coming in who don't have any incentive to make it work, or to make it better or to invest their time and treasure into the country itself.... it becomes all about taking and getting for yourself. The economic system doesn't create that, the social dynamics of the country creates it. Why should some jeet nigger care if the US still exists in 100 years? They shouldn't and don't. They just want to fill their pockets as soon as possible.
>>541117657Europe is so far below america its honestly shocking. Really makes you embarrassed to have ever shilled for the west when europe is so third world.
>>541115987Gen Z is too retarded to understand that even in the glorious communist Soviet Union everyone still had to pay rent. Your landlord was just the state instead of some slumlord jew.They also still had money, everything cost money still, nothing was free. They still had to work, being unemployed in communist countries was Social Parasitism, a serious crime.And they also had income inequality. In the USSR, there were seven different pay bands and directorate executives and political officials and academic leaders in the top pay band earned ~10x the wages of manual labor workers in the minimum wage pay band.Communism doesn't mean that everything is free or that you don't have to work. Communism just means all the wages and prices and production quotas are determined by a committee of government bureaucrats instead of the free market.That utopia you are imagining where everyone has free housing and healthcare and no one has to work and there is such an abundance of everything that no one goes without isn't communism. What you are really imagining is some kind of post-scarcity utopia. It has absolutely nothing to do with the system of government or economy. The only way to achieve that post-scarcity (if it is even possible) is via massive technological breakthroughs. DSA Zoomers who glorify communism because they were born too late to see that literally every communist country ever was a complete shithole are literally the worst people you would want to put in charge if you do want to ever achieve post-scarcity.
>>54111799440% of US adults are obese.
>>541117880America was never a nation and it's harmful to pretend that it is. It takes centuries to get a group of people to share the same language, culture, morals.Only then they can coordinate and create stable progress.Even German Americans in the 19th and 20th centuries had a really hard time integrating and were badly mistreated.I know this especially well because Italy was never a nation. It's a British geopolitical project, which is why it was never functional as a nation.
>>541118802I basically agree with you except that:It took centuries in the past, but today we have the internet and that process can be sped up. What is an unavoidable necessity though is common genetic and cultural interests.
>>541118951the internet is not substitute for real life, for people you broke bread and fought battles with. not to sound like a libshit, but having the same skin color and same politics doesn't remotely compare.whatever will come out of the process won't even resemble a nation.
>>541119972most people in most societies have never met eachother. In the past you only ever meet a teeny tiny subset of the nation. It's not about meeting everybody and knowing everybody, it's about flow of information... and in that historical situation the relevant cultural/social information is very slow to move around. With the internet it's very fast.
>>541115987>young adults being unable to own houses and start families is wacky meme fodder and not an actual existential crisis for Americathis is why dems deserve the win they're going to have in 2028. Maybe conservatives have to learn from a few losses before they fix their economic messaging."B-BUT DEMS ARE ANTI-WHITE"So are Republicans. They worshipped Waheguru at the RNC and call Jews the chosen race.
>>541117994X.Dat this point every european can only laugh about this claim...
>>541120148it's not about the flow of information.there will never be a based-whites-redpilled-about-jews-nation. if you look behind the edits, nationalism is just cringe as fuck. when I listen to them talk I just feel contempt after a couple minutes.nations are probably done for. china and japan are the only real nations left, some shithole in africa or the middle east maybe (israel).the future of human organization has to be something else.
>>541118802>America was never a nation and it's harmful to pretend that it is.Of course it is. The American nation consists of the descendants of the original British settlers, who have a shared language, culture, values, etc.We have a bunch of weird brown foreigners living among us now, just like every other Western nation. But that doesn't mean the American nation doesn't exist.>It takes centuries to get a group of people to share the same language, culture, morals.We've been here four centuries, chief. And some of those original British settlers were the descendants of people who had only been in Britain for about 540 years at that point. >Only then they can coordinate and create stable progress.We've created the richest, most powerful, most dominant, most influential empire in human history. We have conquered the globe so completely that the next step is to colonize the moon and Mars. I'm not sure how much more progress you want to see.>Italy was never a nationNo, it just spent ~1300 years divided into numerous different kingdoms and political entities before finally reunifying.
>>541115987The left can't mem...
>>541115987Just leave me alone to build my own house in the wilderness and stop fucking with me. I don't want any fucking (((handouts))) from jews, the (((government))).
>>541120668>british settlersSo German Americans, Swedish Americans, Irish Americans are not Americans? Or are they brown foreigners? I'm not even going to ask about Italian Americans lol.>Italy reunifiedItaly was not a thing, and then it was created from the outside by the British and by the nationalist wave that was sweeping Europe. Very few inhabitants of the peninsula spoke correct Italian, felt Italian, or cared about anything beyond their extended family. If you ever spend some time here, you'll understand what I mean.
>>541115987enrichis-moi
>>541115987You don't get to vote for Stalin. You get to vote for whoever international capital lets you vote for. Fucking retard.
>>541120628OK but you haven't presented an alternative theory, since it is not about spending time with everybody in the nation, right?So what's the alternative explanation
>>541115987LOL. The economy was bad and I wasn't getting the house and wife and kids I wanted. So I voted for Trump to fuck you all over. and I'll do it again. I'll keep voting for the worst shitheel retard clown as punishment for denying me my piece of the American pie. I'll always vote for the biggest retard and hope he fucks up everything and laugh at the system while it fails and falls apart, as punishment for not giving me what I demand.
>>541117557Truke.Leftoids and women thinking they can apply the Nord model on their pet brownoid scum is deluded beyond measure.
>>541117386I agree with all of that but Donald Trump is a socialist kike with neoconservative foreign policy. Based on your viewpoint, you are a corporate capitalist who slams the red button every November and after jeb got btfo during his debate you relented to let Trump steer the Conservative Party into the New York Jew mob government mentality. Tell me I’m wrong.
>>541117777>You deserve to get fucked and pay $500/month for healthcare cuz black people exist.You do deserve it as you are unable to purge the beasts.
>>541121556Shared interests. They turn into shared experiences, languages, cultures, bloodlines. Then small groups morph together into larger ones until a nation is formed. Geography also plays a big part: you couldn't share interests with people from the other side of the mountain. This explains why we have natural borders.
>>541122054Shared interests is an objective fact of the world, it exists or it doesn't. You don't share experiences with the wider nation, you share culture and bloodlines.But that is what i said in the first place> common genetic and cultural interests.I think there must be some miscommunication going on here because it doesn't make sense as a distinct viewpoint
>>541121111>So German Americans, Swedish Americans, Irish Americans are not Americans?99% of their identity comes from the non-hyphenated American part from the original British settlers. The other 1% is basically a cosplay where their town has a Swedish heritage day or their family eats wiener schnitzel or some weird pastry on holidays and occasionally they go visit "the old country" and LARP like they have something in common with the locals and aren't just a straight up American.
>>541122466okay, it's like a self reinforcing loop. shared interests mean people cooperate, so they intermarry and merge language + culture to form larger groups, pursue higher interests. this is how a common history and a nation is created. and by the way you do share experiences (the king dies, the war, the economy, foreign occupation etc).
Europeans:>REEEE No Americans aren't a distinct nation! They don't share the same language, culture, or morals! There's no shared identity and they don't have anything unique in common to distinguish them as a unique nation!Also Europeans:>REEEEE No you have to call it football, stop calling it soccer! And stop getting excited over the Superbowl and World Series and college sports because you are the only ones who do! UGH Americans are always so loud and boisterous wherever they go! Why do you all have guns and air conditioning, we don't want those things here, we have socialized health care! OMG why do they have American flags everywhere? A fucking stealth bomber just flew over some random sporting event! Why are you so excited about a gas station? McDonalds and Coca-cola are goyslop! Stop being irrationally overconfident and extroverted and leaning on things!
>>541122696yeah, but they are not DESCENDENTS of british settlers, as you said. you are moving the goalpost.and even if you weren't, are you implying that america is culturally british? it simply isn't.europeans say americans have no culture because you truly have no national culture beyond making money and shooting guns.you yourself said so a couple posts ago.
>>541115987Every socialist should be strung up
>>541115987Capitalism is the cause of comunism. Its ether part some money off or part of your life and your familys.You will comply or you will die. The only two options.
>>541123256the college sports! how could I forget college sports and gas stations! peak american cultureutterances of insane and deluded people
>>541115987>Buy me a house or I'll vote for Stalin, no cap. Give me free healthcare too.The high quality of life that boomers enjoyed was gained by their parents and grandparents threatening exactly this.
>>541117880>if you have whites with common interests working to build the country. Literally the USSR. They did well at the start by some metrics I guess,but they're the entire starving communist meme. Doubt they would have been China 2.
>>541115987The disparity comes from whites, despite being the overwhelming majority of tax payers in the nation, get little to no benefit by their government and in fact get denied benefits that should come from that for niggers and indians that just got here and contribute nothing. I looked on Fox News and the boomer line for the mid-terms is "Look at these crazy socialists! They want Sharia Law and open borders! Vote for us goyim to save yourself!" Never mind that they are currently in control. They just expect whites to vote for the horrid status quo because the alternative is nigger hell. The problem is we are already in it.
>>541115987That's the problem with democracy, eventually people find out they can vote for free shit. Boomers have already been doing it for decades, and now everyone else is starting to discover this "trick".
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