>>541120571>>541120571>without any western interventionThat means USA can still support israel?
>>541120571If Isreal kept their current arsenal they would win. If two retarded inbred apes were to attack T*rkey they would win.
>>541120650No it means they can't you dumb fucking polack
>>541120571please God make Turkey win
>>541120571Does turkey have an army composed of women and babies? Otherwise the kikes would lose.
Obviously turkey since muslims have a great track record with defending eachother against israeli agression
>>541120571the west is jewish
>>541120571>Gives up on Gaza>"Gives up" on Iran>Gives up on Lebanonjews can't fight
>>541120715this is exactly how JIDF wants you to react when they use the Polish flag to do their shilling/shitposting (used to be the Canadian flag until 4 years ago)
>>541120571https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygci5hRjmK8
>>541120571Israel would win and my reasoning is the millions of Kurds in turkey that want nothing more to slaughter the Turks.
>>541120571they dont share a border so a land invasion is unlikely, they'd shell each other until there's nothing left, odds are turkey would win simply because they have a much bigger economy and 10x the population so they can sustain the fight longer, but even that is not a guarantee.israel has f35s which would be a big problem to deal with but can be destroyed when on the ground.also israel has a lot more experience and probably already has backdoors into all turkish infrastructure so they could do a lot of damage without even firing a shot.
>>541121046>10x the populationAnd how much of that population aren't Israeli loyal Kurds ?
>>541120808gaza will be depopulated in 10 years time as there's nothing left and are still occupying lebanon, so 2 out of 3iran was never going to happen but only a drooling retard like trump could fall for it
>>541121126since when are kurds allies of israel exactly? also what's stopping erdogan from simply offering something to the kurds in exchange of loyalty, or at the very least a truce?
>>541121126A minority, you have a bad point.
>>541121176>gaza will be depopulated in 10 yearsSure. Any day now. And will you finally move back to Israel when that happens, or do you plan on staying in Cyprus with your family?
>>541120571Israel with ease
>>541120571Israel wouldn’t exist in the first place without any western intervention
>>541120571Is rye el *hand wringing*, obviously.>>541120715Doesn't understand what's being impliedIrish average IQ is 95, btw.
>>541120571Lets goooooooooooooooohttps://youtube.com/watch?v=AZ63QSadPg0
>>541120833I am of jewish XD
turkey has a bunch of young angry dudes.hope it happens as the turks will fight to the thinning of their own herd and by that time israel would be past saving.its a win winthen the christian countries take over the holy land
>>541121449you're barking at the wrong tree, negroid, i still have my foreskin intact unlike you.gaza has no food, hospitals, shelter, drinkable water, how do you expect anyone to survive?israel will keep on bombing and starving them indefinitely because they know no one is ever going to punish them.
>>541121673Oh, someone will. Believe that.
>>541121345>>541121421First check Turkish demographics from western majority Turkish part and then from eastern kurdish majority part. Also Kurds and Jews have always been ally, check who has funded PKK and who was the most loyal supporter Oclana had apart from Greece. I hate the Kurds, they are sand jeets and deserve to be exterminated but there is no way in hell they won't ally themselves with Israel. Plus they want a free Kurdistan and Erdogan can't make that happen
>>541120571Turkey larger population more weapons
>>541120571If the world just let 'em go at it, Turkey.
>>541120571Intelligence will always win over mere muscle.
>>541120571turkey would win in a 1v1 against any european coutnry so why wouldn't they win against israel without mutt intervention? lol even
>>541120571Isreal I think
>>541120571Turkey would crush israel, plus they are a NATO member and allied with Russia if NATO doesn't back them up
>>541120571Israel has taken years to grind down a people they've been squeezing for decades. Turkey is one of the largest militaries in the world and is right next door. If they thought Iran was bad they'd get ROACH'D with absolute certainty
>>541122222quints checked and confirmed
>>541122179Ay yo, Zulfiqar is coming for your head as well, traitor. Nobody likes a traitor, regardless of how much you flatter your nation's enemies. You are a snake, and they will remember that.https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z8SK_IzAS4U
I think we can tear a new anus on Israelis by simply providing 20K jihadists from Central Asia with very long range fiber optic FPV drones, mobile C-UAS stuff and latest gen IIR Manpads. And dumping them in vicinity of Damascus
>>541120571Usually the country with more people wins. Turkey easily.
>>541122553What are you talking about? I just think Israel will fare better than Turkey, that all.
>>541120571>largest drone and missile arsenal in the region after iran>operates some of the best air defense available>10x the population of israelThe only advantage israel has is that it could exploit the kurdish golems to start some shit, but also turkey could leverage syria or some other country next to israel as well
>>541120571The World
NATO vs Israel would be kinoIf only Zion Don stopped sucking Israel’s dick for once
>>541120571Turkey. Simple as.
>>541120571Jews always win against mudslimes
Israeli blood colony having convulsions because our guys planning to install modern AESA radars in Syria. The thing is, we have it installed in Hatay and Cyprus. Soon these will be installed in S.Arabia and Egypt as well.Total kike annihiliation
>>541120571Israel cam easily glass turdkey and it will be fucking awesome if it happens in my lifetime. That roach shithole is a shitstain on earth.
>>541120571IsraelTurks literally don't know how to fight
>>541123565You're a pathetic paper tiger that can't even produce a pair of quality slippers, let alone actual weapons. The jews will hopefully destroy you soon. They already have their sights on you. Death to all roaches
>>541120982>millions of Kurds in turkey that want nothing more to slaughter the Turks.based iranians. the filthy turan orcs must be genocided. ahura mazda wills it
>>541120571Turdkey is already a dying country. Good fucking riddance
>>541123680Cyprus operation was smooth as fuck, it ended within days after total annihilation of Greek cypriot forces. An amphibious landing assisted with paratrooper assault. It's something puccia can not even dream of achieving.>>541123721That must be why kikes are having convulsions, with the idea of our guys bringing AA and Radars into syria.
>>541120571Turkey easily.They have one of the largest militaries on earth.They are the second strongest army in NATO behind the US.They also have some level of combat experience in Syria.There's a reason iran has been very careful to not piss of turkey during this war.Israel is genuinely concerned about turkey and with good reason.Turkey is no fucking joke.
>>541123634>>541123680Denounce the talmud
>>541123945You aren't bringing shit. Stop huffing erDOGan's farts and mindlessly repeating whatever your domestic propaganda tells you (i know it's hard for you cause you guys have an extremely strong sheep herd mentality.
>>541120982If kurds could beat the turks they would have already declared independent Kurdistan
>>541120650>>541120571Israel will find its self at war with the United States if it continues down this course of action. This is why the Yid is pushing to incorporate its self into every crevice of our technology, intelligence and government sectors. As well as ingraining its self so deep in the military it will require Mao level of purges which they will get with their callous disregard for all customs and norms. They are trying and will fail when it is exposed to back door every little aspect of America there will be no choice left but to purge all Israeli filth from the land
>>541124049>You aren't bringing shit.We crushed your dear assad and humiliated Puccia. Your Armenia is also crushed. Your pkk-ypg kurds are crushed. What do you say again?
>>541124040I will unironically accept judaism and start donating to Israel if they genocide the roaches. >>541123989>>541124083Go back to turkistan roach. You don't belong in westoid lands.
>>541122210Lmao, the whole reason turkey is in nato is because they hate Russians
doesnt israel have nukes or something?also it's fucking grim that we are a nato country but literally not one nato country would defend us if any country were to attack us be it iran russia or israel
>>541124161shut your balkanjeet ass up nigga
>>541124159Exactly. The only thing you can "crush" is already failed neighboring states. You have 0 chance of fighting Israel. Please try tho. I will love to watch your shit getting pushed in.
>>541123565Im generally not a fan of muslims or islam, but I think we can all agree the middle east ran better when the ottomans were in charge of that shit.At least it was fucking stable.
>>541120571jews off course because theyre way smarter than turks. you always make it out to be no advantage.this is what matters, its not just better decisions but also the speed how they do everything. they will hit targets way better in the same time.you really can never cope with this because when you would admit to it you would admit that your genes are shit and youre not worth living.your genes want to live though. it doesnt matter for them if you deserve it or not. your genes are assholes.
>>541124273Im whiter and richer than you Mohamumun.
>>541124285Good thing you admit Puccia is a failed state. We kicked their shit in multiple theaters.
>>541124211They have to technically. That’s what Article 5 is for. That’s why it would be based if Trump was forced to side with NATO against Israel
>>541123680Attacking an enemy while wearing their insignia is an internationally recognized war crime.
>>541120571Israel can't defeat Hamas, a literal civilian militia with small arms and bottle rockets. They could not fight Iran in a purely missile slug fest for more than a few days without 3 US carrier groups and a dozen US military bases handling most of the interceptions.Turkey would curbstomp Israel, they would take some hard hits for sure, but Israel would have zero chance of winning. If they used nukes, it would not help them win it would unify the world against them and ensure they would be actually holocausted
>>541120754Turkey is already buffer zone to the mudslimes, they have quite a few christians and seculars and their armies are in actual use due to common kerfuffles with the greeks and in cyprus>flag checks outI know I know, sadly I am actually German and have to live with it.
>>541124211So do we. Just saying. Let them try it
>>541124161I hate the roaches as much as the next white man, but I cant deny reality.Of the current options available, I believe a middle east run by the turks would be the best for humanity as a whole.
>>541124138No, they're trying to regain the same level of control over the new media as they have over the old. This is also why they keep pushing Reddit so much, while forums like Chimpout.com don't receive as many new members because people just go to Reddit.
>>541124286>middle east ran better when the ottomans were in chargeYeah that's why literally every single one of their ex-ottoman neighbors hate their guts, want nothing to do with them and their states are faring much better as independent ones. You think the kurds wouldn't want their own land if roachistan was such a great place to live? The bottoman "empire" literally stunted the development of everyone that was under its control by 200-300 years. They didn't even have the printing press or modern guns lol. Your amerilard education really is showing.
>>541124211We are already fighting iran and would lowkey probably like it if you joined us.You could probably take russia yourselves if necessary and we would definitely help just because we like any opportunity to fuck up russia.As for israel... do I need to say it?
>>541124384Yes they are a failed state, but so is yours. My point still stands.
>>541124584Yes, the constant civil wars and regional wars since the collapse of the ottomans have been a tremendous improvement.Im not saying they are good, just the best option available.
>>541124758Great Israel will be a much better option for that region than dirty mudslimes.
>>541124577You are so oblivious. Buddy every single semiconductor has a jew backdoor in it. Every computer every router every smoke detector somewhere on that silicon is a snooping jew. They have lost the plot they have lost the narrative they are a cursed and Godless people
>>541120655we still celebrate our great defeat in turkistan where 250000 zogbots were killed before giving up
>>541124832Greater Israel will never happen. Israel was created as a geopolitical strategy to insert a foreign body into the ME to keep the entire region perpetually destabilized to allow the Western oil cartel to more effectively divide and conquer the area and then eventually be scapegoated and offered up as a sacrifice once it becomes inevitable that a peer power/alliance is emerging, like we are seeing with the Turkey/Saudi//Pakistan alliance and the Iran/China/Russia alliance. If Israel attacked Turkey, it would be at war with Saudis, Pakistan, and then through NATO membership, the entire western world.Israel actually does not have really any actual mutual defense treaties with anyone.
>>541124584>bulgaria>calling others failed stateLOL, LMAO EVEN Your country barely exists with the gibs from Germany and France, without those you would have 1/10 of a random Turks income. I mean this is so kike coded it's unreal.
>>541120571stalemate we both knock each other some pretty significant hits thoughespecially israel can do more damage to us than we can do to israel
>>541125187Yam Israel Chai!!!!!! Gods chosen don’t need allies!!!! Shabbos Shalom Goyim!!!! We are superior to you stupid goyim! We bomb who we please and steal what we want you got in exist to serve us!!!!! Hasheem mah Suganah be praised!!!!
>>541125411>especially israel can do more damage to us than we can do to israelI don't agree with this. The Iranian war, almost all the damage was done by the US. Israelis had some bombing runs here and there but, heavy lifting was done by the Americans. Without direct American assistance, kikes won't be able to do much.
>>541125216Yes, Bulgaria is categorically a MUCH less failed state than turdkey. Look at vital economic stats, then look at your toilet paper currency. Now look at your mudhut buildings that crumble like cards. Now look at your sad poorfag life - enjoy it while it lasts. BTW we have always been doing way better than turdkey way before the EU. Collapse of the weak anemic bottomans was literally the best thing to happen to the Balkans in the last 1000 years - undeniable historic fact.
>>541125746Also the Israelis had 3 US carrier groups and 20 US military bases handling 90% of Israels defense, and even with all that Israel still got hammered into submission. As a NATO member, the US could not be involved in a Turkey Israel conflict, and Trump will be the last zionist US President with every president after trump becoming successively more and more antizionist as Israel struggles to maintain its control of the US.
>>541126033I am perceived undeniably white by westoids. Luckily no one has ever associated with your degenerate ilk. Unlike you, where the smell alone alerts humans there's a turkroach nearby. Now go back to cumming to your gay history shit in your sissy panties and keep pretending to be a big deal on online forums- that's all you have now lmao. And no, im not watching your faggot video nigger.
>>541126280I know severe mental deficiency causes by genetic inbreeding can be a challenge but Im sure you'll be able to correctly port on 4chan eventually :) Also >>541126262 is for you in case your underdeveloped brain prevents you from somehow understanding that.
>>541126376Hahaha, the turkroach gypsy failed again. Such is life of a mentally retarded roach.
>>541125974Turkish people have always been richer than Bulgarians. You can't do jack shit on your own. Turkey, the Anatolia part, almost always had better living conditions than Balkans in last 1000 years and still does so. Some earthquake image you post online won't change this fact.Fun Fact: Bulgaria doesn't exist by its own merit. It's inherently a failed state by definition.
>>541126669And, Bulgaria has never been a sovereign entity. Bulgarians are not a sovereign nation, they have never been.
>>541126431>>541126376>>541126262You know that libtard, Masonic, race-traitor Brussels will stab you in the back the second it benefits them. Don't trust them too much. You'll be left standing alone in front of us again.https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z8SK_IzAS4U
>>541126669>Turkish people have always been richer than BulgariansLmao what the fuck are you smoking? Average turdk can barely afford a shitty beko fridge that breaks down in 2 years. Balkans were the most developed part of the bottoman empire (and thats really saying something). Turkey is an overpopulated dictator shithole and your people have to beg the local pasha to travel anywhere (explains how wrong and limited your idea of the outside world is). Basically all the negative traits about Bulgaria are amplified x100 in your shithole. The people there are much more unbearable, brown and shitty. >Bulgaria has a higher nominal GDP per capita than Turkey (Türkiye). Bulgaria's nominal GDP per capita is approximately $18,000 to $20,400, while Turkey's nominal figure sits lower at roughly $12,800 to $18,600, though purchasing power parity (PPP) narrows the gap significantlyKeep coping and seething, you half-dicked insect.
>>541126824They have been stamped by the Germans and Russians for last 100 years now they need the boot of Brussels for survival. That little country has never been free. They never existed on their own and they will never understand. Little balkan country nationalism is a very dumb thing. These people need to be liberated from their earthly existence.
>>541126824Id much rather be associated with the EU and the rest of the white world than have anything to do with your kind. In fact, if it weren't for circlejerk threads like this, I could easily forget turkey exists. That's how insignificant on the world stage you are.
>>541127278You're just being a resentful little shit (like a typical turk) because we live much better lives than you and will never EVER want to be you. The less we have in common with turdkey and your barbaric mentality, the more our country and lives improve. It's a historical fact.Now go keep having those wet dream about le big and ebin torkee "empire" while bashing your brown hairy chest xD
>>541127278>they need the boot of Brussels for survival>>541127282>Id much rather be associated with the EUSad...
>>541127104I actually bought a Beko Fridge (Made in TR) with 1/5 of my wage and it serves me quite well for the last 10 years and still going strong. Meanwhile Bulgaria can't produce a single screw or very basic home appliance shit. You were literally living in the dark ages between 1950-2010. And even before that turks have always been richer than Bulgarians. Still so, by GDP per PPP, Turkish income is greater than Bulgaria. Your shrinking population, people fleeing to western Europe, and gibs from EU, yet Turkish income is greater than Bulgaria. this says a lot.Holy fuck dude, you are a nation of absolute losers.
>>541127494I have been to bulgaria. I'm from Kircali myself. Your country is a backward shithole.
>>541127612Dude, the funny thing is I'm not even Turkish or Muslim. My family came here in the 1870s, but this Bulgarian gypsy keeps accusing me of being a "typical Turk" .. He has no idea, lmao.>>541127494hey gypsy, you were ruled for hundreds of years by the people you call "brown", dude how pathetic is that?
>>541124447Well at least you know how i feel as a white leaf
>>541127987I have seen some improvement in Bulgaria in last 5 years. Bulgarian hotels and restaurants were utter shit. Whenever i go there, it felt like i was teleported to 1960s. Now i see they have some nice places and better service, but guess what? These fine places in Bulgaria are all run by Turks.
>>541128147Hahahahahahahahahahaahahaahhahahahhahah
>>541127612Oh you managed to buy a shitty turk fridge with your dying toilet paper currency? I can't comprehend the luxury! We actually produce a lot of specialty tech shit instead of crappy barely working home appliances that China mogs. Turdkey is literally a poorer, dirtier, gipsier and shittier version of Bulgaria. Im sure you're enjoying a great quality of life with all those non-existant quality standards for food, buildings, infra, etc. I have no clue where you're getting those fantasies that turdks are richer than Bulgarians but that has literally never been the case in the past 200 years at least. Gotta lay off that glue. Your PPP only looks good because you guy buy and sell cheap garbage. Also our population decline has pretty much stopped and more people are returning than ever before. You're the ones who should be worried about your dwindling demographics since you're the ones bragging about your big military power.
one has nukes and an air force.the other has no nukes and no air defense.
>>541127887lol a faggot from tickland is calling something else a shithole. Do you realize the only reason we are considered a shithole is because we were influenced by a complete shithole for 500 years? But that is slowly and surely healing the more the old generation dies and the more time has passed since the glorious death of bottomania.
>>541128243Turkey is literally light years ahead of Bulgaria. In every aspect. Better roads. Better hospitals. Better food. Better public services. If you fuckers have some kind of civilized service in Bulgaria, there is a Turk behind that operation because your average Bulgar is no different than a neanderthal.
>>541128147Bro your place is permanently stuck in the 60s. First and last time I visited one of your resorts in like 2006 and it was like going back 50 years in time.
>>541120571Turkey is nato pissrael isnt
>>541128438sure thing, Alibaba.
>>541128438Life expectancy of a Turkish citizen is more than a Bulgarian one.This should give you a hint, what kind of a shithole Bulgaria is.
>>541128438Nah. Better roads probably (tho thats info ive only heard from slimy turk bootlicking bulgarians, so could be greatly exaggerated) but I am sure you are lying out your ass for the rest. As I said, turdkey is literally Bulgaria's worst aspects multiplied by 100 (especially the people). Now look at Czehia or Slovenia- also Slavs but influenced by an actual power like Germany (and not the sick man of Europe). The difference is staggering. The good thing is the more time passes, the less we will be like you and more like them.
>>541120571Israel probably beats anyone 1v1 but no such thing as that in Muslim World last time like 7 countries tried to wipe them out and they lasted Seven Days. Iran, Syria, Turkey with guerilla fighters from HAMAS is dead Israel now I think.
>>541128763Woah TWO WHOLE YEARS OF BEING OLD. You fags are truly living in paradise.
>>541120571jews cant win against shit unless its civilians and children, HOW THE FUCK YOU THINK WE GOT IN THIS IRAN BUSINESS THERE PADDY
>>541128868Far better than your shithole. I'm never saying Turkey is a paradise. Turkey is a world average country. We are average of everything. Bulgaria is below Average shithole.
>>541128332>she still thinks having air supremacy and nukes can win any fightkek hasn't the last 5 months taught you anything?
>>541120571the amount of paid goys who think all of these past israeli wars were them alone is crazy
>>541128772you are already on your own nigger. still you can't do any better than us.
>>541128953Keep coping but Bulgaria is way above average in almost every stat. Simply being in the EU/Schengen puts us above 90% of the rest of the world. Meanwhile you're an actual 3rd world brown backwater filled with gyppos and turks. Your only bragging rights are winning some wars with already failed literal who states and taking over half a greek island that is right next to you lmao.
>>541120571Turkey obviously.I think Turkey would win even with Western intervention desu.
>>541129245Bulgaria saw an immense economic development the very second we got our independence from your dirty brown hands.
>>541129292Good thing you admit that on your own, you are simply nothing. Despite being in EU, you are still a below average shithole.Bulgars are a race of subhumans
BTW, I don't know what ethnic grievances people have etc. etc. But the Kurds are generally terrible and it's important to not get memed into liking them because you dislike someone else etc.
>>541129408Poor reading comprehension. Typical of an inbred turd with an underdeveloped brain.
