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>— US Vice President J.D. on Iran :>"If we can get enough oil and gas out to give Americans some ease at the pumps and ease on energy prices, meanwhile the Iranians are punished for shooting at commercial ships, that applies a lot of economic pressure to them and changes their calculus for what kind of deal or arrangement they want to have with the United States.>Do they want to have their economy strangled for the rest of time, or do they want to have a better relationship with the West? That has always been the option that the President has put to them.>But if they are going to shoot at ships and engage in terrorism against commercial vessels, we are going to do everything that we can to make sure that they are not able to do that."
Why isnt Iran bombing Israel? Theyre going to lose Lebanon
Basset is confused, why?
>>541123644the US shoots at ships too, fuck this gay earth
>>541123644>IfThere's that word again.
>>541123677can you show the map of this winning in Lebanon by kikes?
Is south korea really gonna help with Iran? What are they gonna do? Make more weapons?
>>541120583>There is no land war in Iran.1. Yet, it would be good to prevent any desperate attempt at boots on the ground or even infiltrations2. Sending even just 100000 Russian soldiers would be enough to invade hostile neighbors and take control of the middle East, no one has an actual army there just mostly abandoned US bases. Then they could join with Hezbollah and take on Israel and finally bring peace to the middle East. China and Russia will then be able to invest in rebuilding and make the US even more irrelevant on the world stage, end the pétrodollar and everything. BRICS would flourish.3. Even without this, Russia could bring air defense and prevent all the bombings and civilian casualties, increase Iran's reachReally there's not much to lose, and so much potential, yet Russia seems to hesitate even though they'd benefit immensely from it. They just need to send a few nukes and a small part or their giant volunteer army. Even just a few dozen thousands of soldiers would be enough, 100 000 once they reach Israel maybe.
>>541123479massive cope by vance. iran has tried several times in history to have good relations with the US, but israel has made it impossible. two examples that come to mind are obama's crushing economic sanctions and the 95 conoco oil deal that clinton dropped out of the very last minutevance has got to be the biggest piece of shit in trump's cabinet because he's geared to be the next republican candidate and he's a zio cucked deceitful piece of shit.
Qatar and Saudi Arabia Strengthen Defence Cooperation!>Qatar’s Emiri Air Defence Forces Commander, Major General Mohammed Mubarak Al-Shahwani, met Thursday with Saudi Arabia’s Commander of the Royal Saudi Air Force, Major General Mazyad bin Sulaiman Al-Amro.>According to Saudi Arabia’s Ministry of Defence, the meeting focused on strengthening defence cooperation between Qatar and Saudi Arabia and enhancing coordination between their respective armed forces.>The discussions reflect the continued development of military and security ties between the two Gulf states, with greater coordination aimed at supporting regional security and improving cooperation between their defence establishments.>The meeting comes as Qatar and Saudi Arabia continue to deepen bilateral relations across a range of political, security and defence fields.
>>541123644He sounded more realistic the other day. His handler must have had a 4 eyes conversation with him.
>>541123799yeah we also bombed their diplomats under the guise of negotiations 3 separate times.
>>541123688To be fair, the>short itbutton stopped working a few days ago so I understand the confusion. It’s fine though, once Steiner gets tariffs on China everything will be all right
>>541123792Now that regular industries are failing, like the German car makers, they'll just switch them to military industry and call it a day. Same goes for gay Korea.
>>541123793I don't think Russia is willing to ever go against Israel directly like that. The whole chabad thing, and the Russian Israelis.
>>541123688>manipulating the markets for six months straight... has consequences?
>>541123883they should get a backup button, it's terrible optics.
— Vice President JD Vance on Iran:We're kind of now in a new phase where the most effective tool that we have is the economic pressure that we can apply to them. This is a delicate dance because we apply economic pressure to them. They're going to try to apply economic pressure to us. But what has been true over the last couple of weeks is they felt a lot more pressure than we have. We're going to keep that going because we think that's the best way to ultimately accomplish the final objective here. — Vice President JD Vance on Iran:We have to go back to the very beginning. The president said Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. Well, their nuclear facilities are destroyed, but the question is, do they try to rebuild them? Fundamentally, what we're trying to do is create a changed reality on the ground where not just we can say with confidence their facilities have been destroyed, but we can also say with confidence they're never going to try to rebuild.https://t.me/tabzlive/99669
I think the zog will false flag burning man similar to the 10/7 attacks. I think they’ll do it just after the man burns. They’ll pass the message to the other zios at the Shabbat before it happens. They’re desperate for another 9/11 and mass sacrifice.
>>541123799>>541123644>>541123878oh and let's not forget the lack of commitment to the MoU, which vance himself admitted was designed to give the US more time to create leverage
Bessent here. We will be selling sand niggers soon to the highest bidder. What would you prefer? First off Sand Nigger whores. What is my bid? Also can anyone explain to me why Snow niggers fuck their pets in the ass? Thanks patriots
>>541123688surprised about kike dick in his bussy
>>541123883why did shortening oil suddenly stop working tho
>>541123644Trump was the guy that tore up the deal they had so idk whet this cope is about
>>541124037i want one built like a turkish oil wrestler
>>541123870I'm convinced the japanese are driving up this prices. It's probably even a sign that the american spr is no longer giving enough to cover japanese needs.
>>541123898Germany might actually get a boon if that's true. Is south american oil from that venezuela enough to keep german industry afloat?
>>541123986Hobestly sounds like it’s going to get alot worse in the west and he’s inb4’ing it
Report from Italy: 45 kilograms of firecrackers and fireworks were seized in a rented apartment belonging to two Hapoel Tel Aviv fans who were arrested, shortly before the team's game in Bergamo. Special forces and Italian intelligence agencies participated in the raid on the apartment.
>IN THE END IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY
>>541123688>I don't understand...>i just made the money printed go overdrive and aim it directly at shorting paper oil>i also made every algo we could get to short paper oil>I also sucked dick and I still don't understand why oil is going up...Lol lmao
>>541123817Both their militaries are worthless. Honestly, even yemeni houthi rebels could invade both of them and hold them off
>>541123793I expect this to happen but only once Russia is done with Ukraine.Piggies are on the verge of collapse, Iran war wasted most of the West ressources, and European aid is almost dried up.Ukraine won't survive the winter, so Iran just needs to last for a few more months and then Russia will join Iran.
>>541124164The reference price is russian pipeline gas. Nothing can replace that.
>>541123883Have anyone seen bahrain anon? I've not seen him in a while
>>541124054Physical reality has a way of asserting itself. You can ignore it but you can’t ignore the consequences of ignoring it
>>541124086No problem snow nigger. We have many like that. Would you like one to fuck in the ass/
>>541123677They don't have bombs or an air force to speak of. They have missiles and not as many as they claim.
>>541124266He posted a couple times last night, or I guess in the morning/midday for him
>>541124164Lol lmaoMemezuelan oil is all sludge and tar.
>>541124272i'd like to flip fuck
>>541124261Aren't they paying for a pipepline to be built from norway and another from the dutch? One will be finished next year the other in 2028
>>5411242364000 million go puff for nothing and you're laughing?
>>541123898Fucking kekNigger those industries are crashing because they can't produce anything cheaply or at all because they don't have neither the fuel to make shit or the materials to make them.
>>541124322German refineries can deal with impurities. They just need a shit ton of fuel which oil tankers may from south america may not be able to supply
>>541123725The difference is we're the world's sole superpower not just some backwater regional pain in the ass and we generally do it to maintain the pax americana everyone else benefits from.
>>541124164If they squeeze Iran and Iran actually starts targeting all major infrastructure in the region, who knows if there will be enough oil for anything other than critical industries by early next year? The US has like 40 days left before reaching critical on it's SPR, bit it'll still have over 100 million barrels left. So, question is how do they allocate the rest and would exports be limited? If so, Russia could start strangling Europe form the other side and China would just take over the EU markets like a vulture on a carcass in the next couple years.
>>541124235we're going for 50 trillion in debt by the end of the year arent we?
>>541124321Oh very well. Good to see he is fine.
Life is great I want to live
>>541124330The last time I read about it, the norwegians were saying fuckoff to the germans because they wanted a discount like they got from russia, but the norwegians only sell at market price.
>>541124395>everyone else benefits from.you dont even benefit from it
>>541124361>online shill literally on suicide watchEverytime
>>541124380strangle them with the farce of 1000 suns*(economically, you degenerates, you really thought i would threaten iran?!)
I thought China ended this wolf warrior shit? That why I say anyone who thinks the USA is over is retarded, once we get a favorable president in line everyone just gonna go back to the status quo.
>>541124327We will send you two. Pick one pay for her with your master card, and blow the brains out of the other and feed her to the Jeets. Seem you have a lot of it Canada.
>>541124505lol, he thinks hormusi gonna gggggggoo bbbbbbbAAAAAAAK, lol.
>NEW - The EPA is allowing winter-grade gasoline two weeks early under an emergency waiver, as gas prices near $4.10 a gallon amid the Iran war.
>>541123677Because nothing is more terrifying to them than the powerful and sneaky jewThey want to have their government so much that is not matter what, nothing has worth enough to not be sacrificed .They'll enjoy war as us enjoy war , for them killing 17 us soldiers worth 40k personal because who care about sheeps only system matter
>>541123793Delusional. Russia can barely keep up a fight on a single front much less pull off a sweeping invasion of the Middle East and China has never fought a serious war that wasn't against Chinese peasants.
>>541124393eutards recently put a flat cost on all chinese imports, china repaid them with banning all exports of rare earth minerals and special components that may serve with double use in the military.Basically eutards went full retard and tried to pick a fight against china, one that jewsa absolutely lost miserably before, and got all their military industry absolutely crippled just because euniggers wanted to charge 2 euroshekels per transaction for imports from china.China is not playing around this time, they will just cripple you if you dare to attack them, even if it is an impotent nothing burger as a 2€ charge per transcation from temu.
>>541124361
>>541124380There is always the nationalization of assets as a legitimate option. Then you proceed to get entangled in a bloody war and suddenly those industries start being more productive than ever.
>>541124592>nearIt's already exceeded.
>>541123986>where the most effective tool that we have is the economic pressure I don't think it's strategically smart to basically tell the public, and thus the enemy, outright that you're out of options to escalate kinetically. Iran is already talking about escalating again, and if they drag the US back into a tit-for-tat exchange, they'll be in big trouble.
>>541124235Actually it does matter because trust is waning
>>541123986I'm still mad Vance's path to peace got subverted
>>541124546i will enjoy their thick muscular bodies
>>541124693Do you you have their treasury bonds?
>shill replying to concern shillsI am surprised they still have a few of those alive. I guess the suicide watch bore fruits and at least two miggers survived until the meds took effect.
>>541124690>There is always the nationalization of assets as a legitimate optionThat's changed since globalization. Investors are withdrawing their money and the industry is shrinking.
>>541124631>sole superpower
>>541124609youre right retard the irgc should just stand down and let the US rape iran
>>541124330Belgium has a pipeline with Norway and it’s prohibiy expensive, US lng shipments are better deal
Didn't a bunch of Gen Z Koreans just got MARGINED CALLED. The fuck is South Korea gonna do, they are getting old.
>>541124681lol, lmao!
– The price of Murban Crude oil futures has gone above $100 dollars per barrel as tensions in the Middle East remain unresolved and as Trump announced an "economic D-Day" against Iran.Brent and WTI futures are also rising, and are above $93 per barrel and $86 per barrel respectively.@GeoPWatch
>>541123573Is OP meant to be ironic or what?
>>541124690Nationalization? In these kikes day and age? In jewrope?Lol lmaoAlso again>china banned eutard companies from buying rare earth minerals, products and other dual use products that can be used in the militaryAnd you think somehow the eutard cuntries won't have the same or even worse sanctions from china?Nigger, jewrope is absolutely crippled. Thrice crippled.Once because of their own retardationTwice by jewsa because of the cuckraine shitAnd now for being retarded and trying to pick a fight with china while the middle east is absolutely fucked because the kikes fear that without the boomers they have absolutely no chance of getting their greater pissrael bullshit done.
>>541124890why is there so much male sexual assault in the military? is it a power thing? evil gay commanders?
>>541124609tranny sand nigger found. Disgusting filth.
>>541124915Why is it rising?I don't understand it!
>>541124456They have to pay whatever the norwegians offer
>>541123644How is any of this controversial?We just want iran to quit being fucking assholes to everyone and somehow we are the bad guys.
>>541124592Whats the deal here? It's not as if they store it separately over the summer, they just blend it with other shit when its colddoes that mean they are in essence watering it down as i believe winter diesel isn't as energy dense....
>>541124715
>>541124840As if Iran asshole isn't the size of your mom asshole right nowHow long you think Iran has been raped in history?if irgc had any balls they would have made nuke and used it for scaring/burning jew right nowBut noo we only target Jeet ships or subhuman Arab vessels
Bussy status?
>>541125049cursed image
>>541124817Russians are kings of attrition.Heck they may actually enjoy being hit.It's been years and their attacks against cuckraine only go up in numbers and in the damage they cause.Meanwhile the burger, that are not even being hit, lose more than half of their interceptor and rocket supply in less than 6 months. Said supply was built to fight ww3 against china, the world's factory, and russia.The levels of fucked jewsa are beyond believe.
>>541125011Exactly. That's why I initially posted that there is no energy source that can save the german economy. Except, of course, a phone call to putin.
>>541125039Anon Jews aren't everyone
>>541125149Can't the just restart their nuclear power plants, japan fucked up on this shit too.
>>541125039>*assassinates your leaders one day for no reason at all*>"why doesn't Iran want a better relationship with the west?"
>>541125049it varies from person to person
>>541123573so if we were going to be out in 4 weeks and the strait is "closed" for 6 months why aren't we out now? Maybe his shitpost shouldn't be taken as scientific fact.
>>541125047>The Trump Admin admitting that economic pessure is the only option left that can hurt Iran is the closest to an admision of defeat exactly
"Israel Hayom" newspaper: "Israel" studied the mechanism of Article 5 of the NATO alliance, and concluded - according to the report - that attacking Turkish forces may not automatically lead to the alliance's intervention
>This is fine
>/pig/ still in complete denial and gloating Guys… iran is actually dying before our eyesI’m serious. It’s not good
>>541125049>Steve "bussy" BessentThis could have legs
>>541125183I don't think we should start this discussion. It's messing up the whole thread. Just so much, russian pipeline gas is significantly cheaper than nuclear energy.
>>541125260we're debtmaxxing as the zoomers say
>>541125245kek
>>541125049Keep forgetting he's gay. Maga bent the knee to fags in finance
>>541124817>but muh gdp!
>>541124164>. Is south american oil from that venezuela enough to keep german industry afloat?Anon those refineries aren't online and yours will take ages to be rejiggered to process it."Memezuelan oil will help" is like saying "orbital solar will help".Yes the theoretical framework exists but the logistics chain is non-existent.
>>541125238I look forward to seeing the shills who were talking up the crushing defeat of Iran's military suddenly pretending that sanctions were the 9D chess move they supported all along
>>541125360Russia is basically a war economy now. They pump that shit out like it's nothing.
>>541125363Can't the germans rig something up fast enough to make use of it?
>>541125039You couldnt put your rabid dog on a short leash, so now you will watch your economy get destroyed.
>>541125263>>/pig/ still in complete denial and gloating>Guys… iran is actually dying before our eyes>I’m serious. It’s n-AAAAAAAAAAAACKhttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-08-06/us-military-s-cyber-command-unit-grapples-with-cluster-of-deaths-by-suicide
>>541123688>Sanction country for 50 years>Sanction harder?????>Woahhhhhhhh
>diesel up bigly>price of food up as a result>migger cultists pretend this isn’t happening due to Trump’s kike war
>>541125529Imagine being in the Army currently and then getting red pilled, I can't blame them
>>541125409That great and all but Iran and Thirdies have a shittier economy.
>>541125621yeah but they are built to withstand that, meanwhile the west will crumble at the slightest pressure
>>541125401no, they're war structured but a long way for war economy, but look at iran, they get crazy self reliance, shit out tens of thousands of missiles per year, EASILY, while we can't even keep up with their tempo for more than 2 weeks.
>>541125664That just like Xi telling the Gen Z kids to eat bitterness lmao, at least I can still afford food and a vacation and other creature comforts. Iran spiked up 600% inflation in 1 month.
>>541125621The US economy is tied to the world economy, that's how you got away with being lazy shits for the last few decades
>>541125401>6% gdp>War economyLmao
>>541125767now you are just making shit up
>>541125877No look it up, they experienced inflation by about 600%.
>>541123870What about Mobin crude?
>>541125548correct AND did they even say thank you?
>>541125401GDP IS WORTHLESS
>>541125245It will if they attack their forces in turkey so as turkey rains death down on them from turkey what will they do.
>>541125907No they didnt, and they're in a war for survival. You can't even fathom what that's actually like. They're not materialist like you. Where are the Iranian refugees? I haven't seen any at all.
>>541125925Nigger eagle flies free
>>541125760It would take decades of burger weapons manufacturing to match what iran can do in a year.
>>541125767>>541125907Not even wall street agrees.>“We should be a little bit cautious about the view that the Iranian economy is simply on the verge of collapse,” Mehrdad Sepahvand, a former economic adviser to the Central Bank of Iran, told CNBC’s Dan Murphy on “Access Middle East” on Thursday.>Even so, Sepahvand, now director at Daric Investment Group, said Iran’s economy is indeed deteriorating under the weight of mounting sanctions — but far from unraveling. “Shops are still full of food and basic goods, and there is no sign of panic buying,” he said.>“Despite serious imbalances in the banking system and even severe cyberattacks, public confidence in the banking system has not collapsed, and we have not seen any major run on banks,” he added. “Although hope has clearly weakened, it has not completely disappeared. So the situation around is not as bad as we imagine.”>“The UAE is one of the main Iranian financial gateways,” said Sepahvand. The rupture will pressure the exchange rate, raise trade costs, and feed inflation over the next two quarters, he said. “Our estimation is about minus-5% for now, and [UAE’s sanctions] may worsen the situation.”>https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/20/iran-economy-worries-trump-sanction-war-hormuz-uae-.html
>>541123688Scotty, no-one believes your fucking bullshit anymore, that's why oil keeps going up. Now get back to sucking dicks.
>>541124817>>541125360I thought we were running low on interceptors not missiles as a whole?
>>541125048>if irgc had any balls they would have made nuke and used it for scaring/burning jew right nowIt's not about having balls.I think the IRGC wants build the bomb but they're stuck on how to move the uranium from underground and actually weaponize it. So yeah, 90% is done, but nobody knows how to finish the rest. And the second any equipment comes out of those underground sites, it's getting bombed.This is why I think it's getting delayed too much.
Austria: A Jewish family that got involved in a trip to the mountains needed a rescue that included a helicopter, now they have been presented with a bill of 18,500 euros. At least 18.5 thousand euros: this is the price that ultra-Orthodox families who were rescued in the mountains will payA dramatic rescue operation in Austria, in which three members of a family with babies in strollers without proper equipment were evacuated, amounts to huge expenses that are expected to soarSuburban Giants7th of Elul HaShef'u 20.08.26 12:43Three ultra-Orthodox families numbering 36 people, including 17 Belgian citizens, were rescued last week in the mountains in Austria after trying to descend on foot at an altitude of 2,650 meters. The group was not properly equipped and even included small children and two babies in strollers.As you may recall, on August 11, a massive rescue operation was conducted in the Austrian Alps after 36 tourists from three ultra-Orthodox families, including Belgian, Austrian, American and British citizens, got stuck in an impassable area at an altitude of 2,300 meters in the Solden region of Austria.
>>541126590Bussybros..
>>541126590So stocks and bonds are falling. The capital is leaving the USA. Where is it going?
>>541125043we add more ethanol to it, which ruins the air we breathe, and your engine
>>541126590
>>541126360no, it was all around, and why we had to stop attacking, they knew the state was dire after the first attack failed in the beginning, with the reports coming out mid May or so saying we had used about half if not more for some, of all our standoffs, not pac2/3's.
>>541124817we also spend 5x as much as China does on AI but our models are worse and we have less compute power in our data centersWe've let our resources dwindle and our prices get too high because we've allowed a rentier class to develop and enslave the country.
>Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu held an emergency security cabinet meeting with defense and intelligence chiefs.>The topic: Turkey.Muh turkiiiyeee
>>541126923did they really spend hundreds of missiles on mountains and ventilation systems
>>541126768Wow, the euro and GBP have risen sharply, while the USD and yen are plummeting. Is europe really the safe haven? Scotty thinks so, but can his assessment be trusted?
The strait opens tomorrow
>>541127047>Turkey is lobbying Washington in granting visas for the Palestinian Authority heads to attend the UN General Assembly next month. Tel Aviv is trying to prevent the move, Israeli Channel 12 reports.Lol
>>541127180Can't tell if the headline is intentional or a Freudian slip
>>541126946Our AI is also fake and gay and wont give you a straight answer if it goes against the "sensativity readers" also known as "uncomfortable truths"
>>541127060Do you have the US treasury bonds?
It seems Trump has at least given up the 'deal' theatre this weekWhats his current plans or is he just going to sit back and hope for the best?
>>541127180kek you made me check, this headline would have him fuming at the press conference
>>541127106You make the same post every day.
>>541127365Yea, and our stupid boomer government puts so many stupid "Safety" controls on our AI because they watched Terminator.China is going to run away with this. They already are.
>>541127366wdym?
>>541127405low keying
>>541127405The strait is open the stock market is over 40 billion points, lmao, we don't need any plans lmao everything is going great lmao GOLDEN AGE
>>541127514That seems pretty lazy, I could do that>>541127571>GOLDEN AGEpicrel
Iran’s Foreign Ministry said on Thursday that Washington’s announcement of extensive new economic and trade sanctions against Iran amounted to “economic terrorism” and a “crime against humanity.”“The Islamic Republic of Iran remains steadfast and determined in defending its security and national interests and in confronting US military, economic, political and psychological attacks and pressures,” the ministry said.The ministry added that Iran would use “all national tools and capacities” to counter US pressure and protect its national interests.https://x.com/IranIntl_En/status/2090455438743548285
>>541127405Theoretically he's going to sanction China since they refused to cut off Iran. (He absolutely will not do this). I think we have to accept these niggas really don't have a plan. I assumed they had something in the works but it really does appear to just be nonsense
>>541127693>picrelHigh prices are good lmao. Why should we award LOSERS who didn't work very hard?
>>541123986>the most effective tool that we have is the economic pressure that we can apply to themSo we're in the waiting game because we have no idea how to accomplish our strategic objectives other than hope something happens some day in the future.But it's not a quagmire guys.
>>541127456The AI execs will all make out like bandits and get bailouts, they know it's a farce. Boomers think it's magic and their childlike amusement with it is something to see. But ultimately just a really good computer tool like fucking Windows or something and the scaling is falling off. If I want an AI assistant for logistics at a shipping firm it's already as good as I need it and making it better will just be like running Excel on a 5070 Ti.Once China has those chip factories running you'll start to see them selling "AI in a box" which has pretty much zero upfront and you could even have a mom and pop AI center wherever you want and bigger companies can just have one in the basement and move on.
>>541127902*zero upkeep
>>541127753>sanction ChinaI feel we have been there and taco'd out of that many times during the tariff sperge out - he always bottles it
>>541127902Why are you guys literally psychologically incapable of grasping the concept that AI keeps improving? Every single fucking year you say "well it won't improve any more" and then it keeps massively improving
>>541125401>war economyNope, not even close. They're doing this without mobilization or impacting the civilian economy in any way. Are you beginning to understand why people say NATO lost in Ukraine now?
>>541127693This inflation is insane. And it's getting crazier. Japan paid almost 90% more for its oil imports last month than a year ago. And other countries won't fare much better. Once this is factored into prices, life will become unaffordable. And oil keeps rising.
>>541127571>THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS COPE XEET. - President DONALD J. TRUMP
>>541128032It's not ever going to happen unless literal ww3 starts
>>541127902I think AI will be useful for a lot more than running a logistics company. You'll be able to use AI to design machines and buildings and bridges and vaccines and medicine, even weapons, in an instant.And the country with the most compute power, and the cheapest models, gets the most data and has the best AI forever basically.We fumbled the bag mainly by not investing in infrastructure. The limitations of our electric grid and lack of space in our cities are killing us.
>Israeli intelligence has information that Turkey is preparing to send offensive and defensive weapons to Syria, including advanced air defenses, i24 and Yediot Ahronoth both report.BTW Bahrain anon suggested this is theatre which Israel is doing to make Erdogan look better(ie tougher on Israel) lol.
>>541128083yeah its fucked here too and getting worsegoing to be a grim winter... already making noises about yuro gas shortages, thats on top of high energy costs already that filters into everything plus soaring food and shit harvests this yearas with any crisis, the uk seems to get fucked more than most too
>>541125916What about Morbin crude?
>>541128039It will improve with or without Sam Altman. And that wasn't my argument, it's reaching diminishing returns for what normal businesses could need it for. Sure higher end AIs are great if you're doing medical research, physics, advanced coding etc. but that's small potatoes in the big picture. The US grand AI model requires a Netflix level adaption rate to justify itself.
>>541128184Nigga, AI is a bubble, it can't possibly make the returns needed in the next couple of years to save the overleveraged circle jerk of "investment" and simply adding more computing power to the models has diminishing returns
>>541128299>plus soaring food and shit harvests this yearplus the jews in charge of the ukraine decided it was a good idea to go after russian shipping so now neither country can export grain
>>541128417I GUARANTEE you were saying 3 years ago that it would never come close to being as good as it is now
>>5411269465x? try 5x5, the retards simply spent the better part of the last decade gimping tay and failing and China took the stuff that was open source and either extracted the weights or simply trained it and then to ensure that "openai" can't get them for "copying" anything the made it open source.
>>541128383Claude is the only AI worth a damn.
>Croatian police have arrested a Ukrainian man suspected by Germany of taking part in the Nord Stream pipeline attack – while he was on set filming a Hollywood thriller based on the 2022 sabotage operation>The German Federal Prosecutor’s Office said on Wednesday that Ukrainian national Vladimir Z., previously identified by media as Vladimir Zhuravlyov, had been apprehended in the Croatian city of Pula under a European arrest warrant.>In a bizarre twist to the already labyrinthine Nord Stream story, Zhuravlyov was arrested while on the set of ‘Snake Island’, a movie about the supposed Ukrainian plot to destroy the pipelines, German legal magazine LTO reported. >Starring Sean Penn and Adrien Brody, and directed by Doug Liman of ‘The Bourne Identity’, ‘Snake Island’ began filming in Zagreb earlier this month, according to a report by World of Reel. It is unclear whether Zhuravlyov was on set as an actor, an adviser, or a guest of Penn and Brody.Not related, but lmao.
>>541128417>AI is a bubblefor us yea, not for China. First of all China has spent way less than us, and gotten way more for their money.Our plan was to monopolize AI and use it to control the world. China's plan is simply to make sure we can't do that. It's not a bubble for them, it's basically defense spending.And AI is the future, 99% of white collar jobs will be gone but more than that you will be able to do those jobs in an unlimited amount in the blink of an eye.
>>541128288To Syria in support of whom?
>check out reddit about the turkey situation>expect them to be pro israel>they're very anti israel>they think the US and NATO will come to turkey's defenseAYY LMAO
>>541128184As of now, I see it as having a human multiplier factor on stuff humans can already do but has not scratched anything superhuman. Ultimately a lot of what this means is less jobs, at least for now. I am sure it will get over that hump eventually but I don't see it happening any time soon so slow and steady is the right path. USA is on a golden goose chase with it because they want an easy out but that just doesn't seem to be mapping out.
>>541128504You're right, China gets like 50x more for their dollar than we do because they spent the last 70 years making sure their profits went towards building new industry and infrastructure while all of our profits went towards building yachts and child rape islands and bombing brown people.
>>541128577given the option to live in scam altmans ai world or one with open source free models i know which side i'm taking
>>541128184it’s a chatbot that reads reddit and write emails
>>541128678>As of now, I see it as having a human multiplier factor on stuff humans can already do but has not scratched anything superhuman.Yea sure, but it can do that human stuff in unlimited quantities in the blink of an eye for wayyyyyyy less money.AI will transform humanity. Yes jobs will be lost, this is sad but jobs were lost for every technological advance.As far as jobs go, in China losing these jobs will mean everything gets cheaper and people have more free time. In the US, losing these jobs will mean there are more homeless people.
>>541128711No, the best models are doing engineering now.
>>541128681and are innovating instead of sitting idle.>>541128417>ai is a bubbletell that to the hoolyweirds writers guild hacks, lol.
>>541128649>they think the US and NATO will come to turkey's defenseThat's the best thing about such happenings, if they actually happen. Redpilling starts booming because the shit don't fit the propaganda people have in their heads.
>>541128697Oh yea for sure. And you know they wouldn't let anyone they don't like use that AI for anything they don't like. If we won the AI race we would use it as a tool to enslave humanity for centuries. It might have been over for us quite honestly.
>>541128697For years I was wondering why China even gave a shit about AI, but they were right to make it priority #1 and thank God they did.
>>541128828whoops dropped pic
>>541128643>To Syria in support of whom?SNA
>>541128577>And AI is the future, 99% of white collar jobs will be gone but more than that you will be able to do those jobs in an unlimited amount in the blink of an eye.AI costs more than a low level employee and requires more time for a high employee to fix.You're doing the equivalent of people from 10 years ago betting BIG on VR in misunderstanding technical and structural limitations or assuming that there's a gravity particle because it Sounds Correct™You can in theory make a computer do All The Jobs but right now The imitations are hardwired into the math underpinning it.
>>541128799Are you assuming more white collar work translates to more profit / deliverables? Big tech can easily have x10-x100 return on investment for hiring an average engineer so why aren't they just hiring a gorillion dudes?
>>541128474- Nortel baggie circa 2001>>541128577I admit I have basically no knowledge of Xinnie's AI investment's economics
>>541128847trueno way americans and europeans sacrifice themselves for the turks lmaoyour gay treaties mean nothing
>>541123644>do everything that we can to make sure that they are not able to do that.Just not militarily because we've run out of missiles and they're expensive.
>>541128577Ai here is to busy making itself a goy slave.
>>541128939>For years I was wondering why China even gave a shit about AIBecause you're so anti American that you assumed anything that was being developed in the US primarily couldn't possibly matter. Im guessing you still know literally nothing about AI, but now that China is catching up on the tech you have decided it actually matters, because now you can spin this as a chinese win
>>541128977>The limitations are hardwired into the math underpinning it.No, the latest models are self-learning. They are really good, especially the Chinese one's if you feed them your own data they will figure out whatever you're doing.And business says you're wrong man, everyone is moving to AI, and they're only going to move to it more as it gets better.
>>541129043Every single time
>>541129081Which ai are you referring to?
>>541125245>if we kill their leader they WON'T retaliate >don't worry they WON'T close the SoH>nah they WONT attack every US base in the region >if we bomb their energy infrastructure they WON'T retaliate>If we attack turkey with zero justification other than our paranoid schizophrenia NATO WON'T trigger article 5My jewish fatigue is going insane these days. Every time I'm reading something an Israeli said or something Israel did I'm just rolling my eyes, I don't want to hear jews speak or hear any news about this nation if vermin.
>>541128977Ai is not a gimmik, it already is getting Nobel prizes in chemistry, its solving theorems and mathematical proofs and the software, is free.
>>541129242I truly hope nato does. I really do.
>>541129242Thr last one is lowkey true though. Nato will never attack Israel
How long before a mutiny in the strait?
>>541128799It uses as much electricity as Florida and is completely subsidized by debt
>>541129147someone posted an ai that works with zero, that's right zero training data and learns in one iteration.
>>541129047Our biggest problem is not the AI models, although China's are WAYYYY cheaper and at least as good now, our problem is an inability to build data centers.This inability comes from a lack of space in our cities, a lack of construction capacity and primarily a lack of electricity generation.
>>541129314If it doesn't become mecha hitler I don't believe it's self learning.
>>541129069>Because you're so anti American that you assumed anything that was being developed in the US primarily couldn't possibly matter.lmao yep, basically>Im guessing you still know literally nothing about AI, but now that China is catching up on the tech you have decided it actually matters, because now you can spin this as a chinese winthere's definitely a lot of that, but no I thought like you did a year ago, that AI wouldn't be useful, but modern AI is really fucking useful.
>>541128977Agreed. The fact that europe is not participating in this wunderwaffen race was finally a good decision by the EU bureaucrats.
>>541129147the best chinese AI model is Kimi K3, just got released, it's as good as Claude
>>541127060>GBPAt least we acknowledge we have a debt problem. Burgers just can't put the credit card away.
>>541129379check this out >>541103736
>>541129301>It uses as much electricity as Florida and is completely subsidized by debtYea, same in China. They have even more data centers, but they overbuilt their electric grid and generation capacity in anticipation of something like this, so it's nothing for them.For us, this move to massively build data centers is going to break our backs.
>>541128649The hell are they smoking, the US and israhell militaries have merged now
>>541129387?I'm arguing that AI will matter, though I don't think either US or China will ultimately be able to control it.
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>>541129293I remember reading or hearing somewhere that a huge part of why NATO stayed around and expanded after the end of the cold war was so that the US would have a logistical framework to defend Israel with. Like it wasn't all about that, there were a bunch of different players involved who all had different motives. But if NATO disbanded and the US just stopped being a global empire then defending Israel would be a lot more difficult, and there were a lot of people in Washington DC who thought that was a very big deal.
>>541124395A united Golden Circle is in the world's best interest
>>541129479Ironically enough Chinese AI boxes could fix a lot of that. Just stick an AI room in the basement with a Chinese model. You could even sell tokens locally or some shit.
>>541129479They do not have more data centers, the Us still has more.
>>541129592Oh, I thought you were the other guy>though I don't think either US or China will ultimately be able to control it.Well, the one with the most data centers is going to be getting the most data, and that's big, and that one is China.But yea, now that China has won AI, they don't seek to control it. Their game is to make sure WE can't control it, because obviously as the Anthropic guy made clear we want to control it for evil purposes.
>>541129660I don't know where the compute demand maximum will be, but as it stands you want as many gpu's computing as possible to make your AI as good as possible and process as many tokens as possible.
>>541125409And still niggers demand reparations.
>>541129694Bro you cannot possibly think this ludicrously biased worldview is epistemically helpful to you. We have literally just outlined how it led you astray on judging AIs importance earlier and you're not going to update even a little bit?
>>541129664perhaps we have more total, but I believe China has more excess compute capacity.Either way we won't have more for very long as China announced $250 billion to build data centers in the next four years, and they have their own DUV lithography machines now and even a protoype of their own EUV machine, so they'll be making their own much cheaper chips in massive numbers in a year or two.
>>541123688>>541124235All this economic stuff is scaring meHow fucked are we?
>>541124401Now envision the alternative, lets say Iran conquers those arab countries and controls all the oil. Meme venezuelan oil gets shipped to europe with refineries capable of processing it
>>541129879What specifically did I say that you think is wrong?
>>541129924>now that China has wonIt has not won. It's now a competitive race, where each side has different advantages
>>541129745Realistically is this the case? AI can't just pay for itself by borrowing forever. And where is what computing and how? If I just want to compute simple tasks, is the AI using a jet engine level of compute when I just need a golf cart?
>>541125401>war economyThey haven't made any structural changes to their economy lol.
>>541124864A pipeline will supply more oil on average, can belgium get that pipeline through its german border to be the middle man? Germany can pay the price
Can someone explain to me why russia and china are so strongly opposed to japan acquiring nuclear weapons? Wouldn't a japan that becomes independent from the US be in their interest?
>>541126768Gamestop.
How close are we to ww3???https://strawpoll.com/BJnXVaG1OZv/results
>>541129479It's so funny to me how the politicization of energy is starting to straight up murder the US.Every nuclear reactor or solar park just immediately triggers cascading melties so nothing ever gets done.Chinks build a lot of everything.It's not this weird shibboleth where you just can't have wind because you just can't okay
>>541130010All china needs to succeed at is to not burn itself down, the US will burn like a dumpster fire
>>541129883The US is also clearly putting gigantic efforts into this, and up to now its frontier labs have still been ahead of China's by at least a few months(and the internal models maybe by more). China's dictatorial control and industrial base does lend it advantages but it's not a forgone conclusion.
>>541127693It all looks accurate except for $6 eggs.
>>541130051Because Japan is more likely to nuke someone because the US asked than the US is to nuke someone who nuked Japan.I.eIt makes North Korea less effective as their personal check on US influence in the region.
>>541130010China has absolutely won. Their models are just as good now when a year ago they were supposedly a decade behind so if this trend continues, in a year their models will shit on ours. They have the electrical capacity to actually build data centers at scale. They are catching up in chips. What are our advantages?
>>541130273I doubt that. You compare models users have to government models. they are not the same.
>>541130273>What are our advantages?Destructive scanning lole
>>541130079And Trump is the poster boy of killing renewable energy projects, he canceled all the Biden era projects and then attacked Iran so now even oil is scarce. Fucking retarded boomers.
>>541130079>saying this as a pseudoKrautLOL
What if Trump just wants to see those salt caverns pushed to their limits?
lmao Turkey with their "1,000,000 men army" Turkey is so weak and will never do anything
>>541130273have they solved any math problems yet?
>>541130143>but it's not a forgone conclusionIt's a forgone conclusion that we will not be able to monopolize AI and enslave humanity with it for all time like we wanted.And there is some low percentage and rapidly declining chance that we can beat China at AI.
>Iran is reportedly preparing to damage Trump's presidency through economic warfare ahead of the November midterms — striking oil tankers beyond the Persian Gulf, tightening the Houthi blockade of Bab al-Mandeb, and targeting Gulf oil terminals to drive up global energy prices, per Mizan News.>Also, Majid Shakeri, advisor to Iran's chief negotiator, said Tehran must raise tensions ahead of the midterms and that "America has handed over the necessary pretext." He added that Iran will not wait for Washington's economic attack in a preemptive defense.
>>541130415we can use all the migrant children in the border cages to dig new onesthey would love doing it too
>>541130341Lol seekret wunderwaffen LLM developed by epstein rapeslaves or something The only thing your politicians are interested in is enriching themselves and leaving you with a bill, also they got rid of anyone who might've put up a fight by sending them to some meatgrinder
>>541130350lmao
>>541130059-6.5 yearsGive or take two more months.
>>541130466Yes, many.
>run dry by july 9thIt's August 20th. Why would OP make a thread with an image that BTFO's his own premise?
>>541130143>The US is also clearly putting gigantic efforts into thiswe've put gigantic effort into conquering and enslaving Iran, tooHow is that working out for us?
>>541130479should be interesting to see what iran doesa competend administration would have started with the financial knobs, so i expect this to have less of an effect over the timelines in playat the same time cutting iran off from the uae is a genuinely strong move, this is probably the biggest threat to iran over the entire war so farthis is where iran either gets the us in a chokehold or lose their leverage and become a bullied pariah
>>541130633>usYou don't need to pretend you're American lol
>>541130466yes bro, they're solving or discovering something about math every day SPECIFICALLY because of ai, exactly like computers allowed us to explore more complex math.
>>541129889The interest on your debt is $85b a day, so every 12 days you have a little of over a trillion in interest.I would recommend Balkanising and tell the creditors to get függ.
>>541130721ad hominem
>>541130572name 5 by kimi,glm, or deepseek
>>541130586Because the deal was made and oil was allowed out. You seem slow.
>>541130750Notice those are all American AI companies
>>541130769>I would recommend Balkanising and tell the creditors to get függ.The biggest creditor for American debt is Americans.
>>541130750It's all slop
>>541130572ok bud
>>541130721As a cucknadian shouldn't you be servicing sukhdeep and paying taxes to king Charles so he can continue to invite niggers to service hs blown out asshole
— President Trump on Iran:Iran shot missiles at sort of semi-neutral countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait, and Bahrain.If they had a nuclear weapon they would've used it on everybody.>Kuwait>BahrainBoth countries who literally shot American missiles at Iran from their territory. Somehow this lie feels more repulsive than the usual
>>541130788Oh and saying that US failing an impossible mission to conquer Iran was a good faith argument about its ability to build data centers(something it's literally doing on a huge scale as we speak)?If you act like a caricature of a chink yelling CHINA NUMBA WON what do you expect
>>541130855"Sort of semi neutral country" is a funny euphemism tho
>>541130798I can't because they haven't. Congrats on being first, but that doesn't mean you get to enslave humanity with AI now. SORRY!
>>541130178Nobody believes these war games, right? Nukes are dont tread on me tools. China, with its economic rather than military approach, should be in favor of as many countries as possible having them. If the germans had built their own in the 50s, the world would look very different today.
>>541130750>posting slop to advocate for slop about more slopjust stop and put the slop down and go outside
>>541130889China is building data centers faster than the US because China spent the last 70 years investing it's profits in it's own industries and infrastructure and the US spent it's profits on developing an army to conquer Iran and building child rape islands.I'm sorry this upsets you, but it's the reality.China won. China #1.
>>541130891"mostly peaceful"
>>541125591delete this
>>541130526More like 2 years lol or even 1. At this point will probably a war of resources before 2029.
>>541131063>*to not conquer Iran
>>541131063>building data centers faster than the USIs the disparity large enough to totally ensure victory? I don't think so. There might only be a year or two before the endgame so future centers have to come quickly also. Idk why you have to roll China's superiority over the US in other domains into this argument. In this specific industry the US is so obviously still a top competitor and you just look dumb denying it.
>>541130719the US is foolishly banking on Iran not going after Fujairah if they really follow through with their economic warfare strategy. You can tell that the UAE isn't fully on board with this idea and is well aware of the risks. They're already talking about taking "gradual steps" instead of cutting off Iran cold turkey
>>541131141He meant 'negative 6.5 years' as in we've been in WWIII for six and half years at this point
>>541131226>In this specific industry the US is so obviously still a top competitor and you just look dumb denying it.And literally just a year ago the US was the only competitor and China was more a less a joke. Ignoring that fact makes you look dumb.You think China is going to halt it's progress now that they've reached parity (superiority)?
>>541131275True my bad, thanks!
>>541130820>itsno, its not, but good cope.>>541130806chinks are who work on all the "american" teams, plus they are gonna lead this, not the expats who will beg xi to let them escape the degeneracy.
>>541131350
>>541131371AI has hijacked your brain and your IQ is dropping by the second. Unplug before its too late.
>>541131326They have not reached parity or superiority though, why do you insist on blatantly lying about this? This is why you sound ridiculous, it's not enough for you to say they've almost caught up very quickly, which alone is very impressive, and everyone agrees they're now contenders.
>>541131505FACT CHECKthe AI says it is not hijacking my brain and I should not unplug
>>541131505its a tool retard, this cretin unironically thinks summarized search results are "le brain rot". Can call it slop, can't show how or why its so, truly retards are insufferable, tganks for playing, literally terrified i screencap a search summary, lol.
>>541131505kek
>>541131557>and everyone agrees they're now contendersAnd ignores that just a year ago they weren't contenders. China's AI development is on a parabolic trajectory while ours is on a positive slope.Unless you are arguing that AI is already maxed out which is silly then it's clear who the winner is.
>>541131617Its feeding you literal reddit posts and youtube videos and you're just believing it without doing your own research. It's unironically making you retarded anon. Stop.
>>541130479I want to see Iran hit American AI companies data centers, hated CEOs when they travel overseas, etc… while also messaging that they won’t target any random civilians. It would cause mass chaos and wreck the market and Americans would celebrate it. If they want to end the great satan, this is their shot.
>>541131275This.>>541131386I'm stealing this green frog fren
>>541131691Look, the nanosecond a Chinese AI is actually demonstrably superior I will agree with you. It's not that I think they're not capable of it. You just can't assume something like this when up until now the top labs have always been Anthropic and OpenAI.
>>541131862>You just can't assume something like thisBro you are ignoring reality.
>>541131617shills fear the clanker master
>>541131862At the end of the day you still need to pay for it, the bragging rights are pretty cool though I guess. Maybe if the US wasn't 40 trillion in debt and could afford to waste money it would be viable.
>>541131575bro watch out they're gonna call you a kook for posting Google gemeni on here, say you're too far gone, they want you to waste 453 hours to sumarize and clate the fact ai is wrecking them, unironically, THEN they'll "le consider it". Don't you find kikes, and shills utterly vile, disgusting?>Its feeding you literal reddit posts and youtube videos and you're just believing it without doing your own research. It's unironically making you retarded anon. Stop.The fact leddit quotes sometihing, especially news articles, doesn't invalidate or diminish the events they're referencing, but you know that, you vile kike, and now, what exactly what wrong with any of the information it presented? nothing? o yeah, that's what I thought, you're seething at facts, calking them slop, then pretending they're not even real, so not kike of you.>>541131862Already are in various tasks and across different models.>>541131924They don't prefer my "slop" they say.
>>541131908Nigga pls. You know I'm right deep down you just hate America.
>>541130356Yup.Shit's funny ASF >>541130855>>541130891Bro can't even keep his lies straight anymore
Baker?
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>>541123688kek this guy is a bimbo
