This is the dumbest idea in the world for me>costs Government billions/trillions>punishes the rich and successful who create jobs since they have to foot the bill>rewards the poorest and most unhealthy and most drug addicted since they will use it most and pay the leastI walk to work everyday knowing 30% of my paycheck is deducted with healthcare being the biggest expense, and the drug addict who harassed me on the subway is taking up the resources in ER
>>541128420good goy, insurance companies need their pay
>>541128420Don't care.Ban usury.
>>541128420Who said it's free? Your taxes will go up to support social safety nets and make everyone a little less miserable
>>541128521Hey
>>541128512Good boy communism definitely works!!
>>541128420Anyone who calls it free healthcare is a worthless retard
>>541128521Don’t careUsury is good it’s free market capitalism>>541128604Except socialism makes people miserable
>>541128420what's dumb is forcing hospitals to cough up ever increasing profits for the shareholders, year after year forever. the increased profits can only come out of staffing, maintenance and quality of carethe profit burden is pure overhead. the shit has no business being anything but non-profittying it to employment in the age of AI and mass unemployment is monstrous
>>541128420I say its fine but make coke, pepsi, McDonald's, Phillip Morris, hersey, budwiser, ect ect pay for it. Basically any slop merchant. Heavy tax on anything pre-made, alcoholic, sugary. Prices go up, smart people consume less, become healthier, problemo solvded
>>541128420Medicare works pretty well actually. It’s also quite profitable for the private sector
>>541128756> Usury is good it’s free market capitalism
>>541128809Oh, and when slop merchants go out of business and that tax base collapses, problem still solved bc doctors will charge what the market can afford instead of what the infinite money printer can sustain. And no, they won't stop being doctors. There's no way in fuck those egg had office jockeys are gonna start doing actual labor.
>>541128788I agree it shouldn’t be tied to employment, we should make it so companies aren’t incentivized to provide it as a benefit >>541128809I’m for cutting corporate tax>>541128829It doesn’t work
>>541128420Every other 1st world country has universal health care for their own citizens. Instead we pay for Israel citizens to have healthcare with our taxes. Kill yourself cock sucker, if you're gonna shill at least don't be retarded about it.
>>541128420Have you ever stopped to consider why people end up addicted to drugs or being unhealthy in the first place? Believe it or not, most people on the street become drug addicts because they're homeless, not the other way around. It's a way to cope with the misery of poverty, and reinforced by their social circles being other addicts. Likewise, obesity is strongly correlated with poverty. So, maybe if we had more social support systems instead of an exploitative system that rewards the 1%, then people on average would be healthier and less susceptible to addiction, and then more healthcare resources could be put towards those who genuinely need it.
>>541128420It makes sense and its completely rational if you are the individual getting the healthcare which in dollar terms is valued more than your personal contribution via taxation
>>541129231You literally just proved in your first sentence why free healthcare is the worst idea possible, we would be no different from any other EU or Anglosphere shitholeWith our military we could bomb into oblivion any one of those countries and collapse their healthcare system
>>541128756>Usury is good
>>541129265How much more welfare do we need we already tax the successful to death to fund unlimited welfare and free shit. It’s not the governments job to give people free shit. People need to earn it
>>541129320That's why you don't import millions of jeets and Muslims; Japan's health care is perfectly fine. >Instantly thinks about War to destroy other nations' health careYou really are a kike
>>541128420if I thought you really gave a shit I might craft a thoughtful reply
>>541129316That would be me but I still oppose it for moral reasons I think it’s immoral and bad for the whole country long term Also even if I marginally beenfit, I see the homeless addicts who ruined my city getting it for free and taking up all the resources
>>541129443Immigration is only a problem with a welfare state, if we abolished free healthcare and social security we could bring in more immigrants since they wouldn’t be able to live off the system they’d be forced to work. Watch Friedmanhttps://m.youtube.com/shorts/xRSJJXdyfMY
>>541129657I'm actually appalled by your bravery; you're either a sub IQ retard or shit posting. Either way Bravo Rabbi.
>>541128420When healthcare is free for everyone the quality of health care drop and the wait times increase exponentially.Fuck that.
>>541129731You’re on pol and defended free healthcare.I know you’re being contrarian because nobody here is that stupid .Given the constant anti jew shit I’m assuming trolling. Right wingers don’t support free healthcare
>>541128420>>punishes the rich and successful who create jobs since they have to foot the billUh yeah, thats what it does to me. I definitely dont pay 0 in taxes because I gave a bunch of money to a sweatshop I labeled a "charity" in Honduras and a "medical program" to force circumcisions on non jewish countries.
if i lived in an ethnostate i'd happily give some of my income for free healthcare. in the meantime i'm not paying for shaniqua's triple bypass and jose's 8 kids.
>>541129934Yeah definitely buddy. The tax system works like wolf of wallstreet I love when people larp as characters they see in fiction movies as if the world works that way
>>541129850I'm not a right-winger; I'm center.
>>541130119>center>”kike” “rabbi” “shlomo”Bait exposed
>>541130206Cope, cope, cope, cope, cope. you can try to gas light all you want but people will see through it. You're the one with the meme flag to hide that you're in Israel right now.
>>54113003080 million people on medicaid. you're already doing that
>>541128756>is a faggot>plebbit spacing>"usury is good">meme flageat shit and die kike
>>541128420people who work in the health industry should be slaves?
>>541130464that's not free healthcare, that's subsidized with tax
>>541128420It is usually categorized as a necessary evil similar to prisons. The alternative is the American system where costs are inflated by greedy jew insurance companies and charged back to the government anyway. It's more cost effective to cut out the middle jew and charge the costs to the tax base collectively.
>>541128420In the US universal free healthcare is kind of a special case. You're probably the most unhealthy populace on earth. Without proper food regulations, universal health care would overwhelm your medical facilities. Unfortunately, with your vehement dedication to free markets and rampant capitalism, bad health is necessary for your medical industry. Food stamps for sodas and kfc, etc. As much as you (and I) hate regulations, food is too important to leave up to the obesity prone ham planets. Same goes for smokers. If you willingly desolate your body, there should be some sort of exemption. You don't get to act stupid and have others pay the bill.The current US medical industry is however only possible in a nation with excess wealth. Once (soon) your living standards deteriorate and a dollar is 1/100 of what it once was, you'll have to adapt and establish free health care. It's shitty, and the waiting lines are borderline unbearable, but you'll have to go there.
>>541128420>>costs Government billions/trillionsgood, not my problem>>punishes the rich and successful who create jobs since they have to foot the billgood, not my problem>>rewards the poorest and most unhealthy and most drug addicted since they will use it most and pay the leastgood, not my problem
>>541130698stop calling it free health care, that's not what the word free means, you're advocating for socialist health care, call it what it is
>>541130688the insurance companies are regulated like utilities with limited profits and oversight on what they can deny/allow. in regards to government sponsored plans they're paid an administrative fee that the government can't provide for cheaper, otherwise they'd do it.
>>541130698Two of the most powerful lobby groups in the USA are the GMA (big food) and big pharma, they regularly collaborate on what is and isn't healthy (ketchup is a vegetable), seed oils are good for you, to benefit both parties.
>>541130688American system is socialist healthcare it’s failing right now
>>541128420I have mixed feelings. the main problem is that if you're uninsured, you're still going to get treated. Think of all the uninsured illegal spics who clog up emergency departments in hospitals across the country. They're not paying for shit. And because they're not paying for shit, those costs get offloaded on everyone else to balance it out. And of course all the niggers are on medicaid so you're paying for them too. And medicaid reimbursement is often so low that hospitals/clinics/offices/pharmacies/etc straight up lose money per patient because reimbursement is so low. And once again, that gap is offloaded to the rest of everyone.So basically, you're paying for spics and niggers regardless. Your taxes are already going toward paying for the dregs of society. Might as well get something out of it yourself.
>>541130804>stop calling it free health care, that's not what the word free means, you're advocating for socialist health care, call it what it isfine, still unfeasible in the US, because you're so fucking degenerate it's not even funny>ergoYou're to capitalist for universal health care to work. Your hedonist cheddar cheese munching fatso fuck obesity ridden nigger festation of a country cant handle a task that any sane mind would consider to be for the greater good of all
>>541128420Because America would actually make it work. Besides money isn't real you know that retard.
>>541128420The USA didnt have free healthcare when I was a kid. I was on my parents plan. It was not even 100 a month for most of my life and I was able to get full coverage. I got nose surgery on it. I got a yearly checkup and i got surgery for a torsion. That all changed under Obama. Over night it went from 250 a month to 850 and the package severly degraded.
>>541128420Anything to get us off this retarded health insurance racket model.No wait they'd probably do something retarded like throw shitloads of money at the insurance companies to preserve shareholder value instead of making a system that actually works.
>>541128707Seems like the rest of the west socalized this shit, have near equal outcomes and dont have a predatory class? Ye bro totally works lmaooo
>>541128420Israel has free healthcare on behalf of USA sla... i mean, tax payers
>>541128420you actually think drug addicts use healthcare even when it's free? people clogging up free healthcare waiting lists are the working class trying to get vacation from their jobs at every mild sneeze.
>>541128420A lot of people don't care about what it actually costs as long as theirs is free.
>>541128420>30%It's 8% here? Which is fair enough for peace of mind
>>541128420>be average guy>lose the lottery and get cancer>life is now ruined, either you're in infinite debt or you dieyeah bro it's so much better that way
>>541128420>we already pay trillions for "healthcare", it just gets funneled through cost-plus health insurance companies that don't even give you healthcare that you paid for. single payer would reduce overall spending for the US>chaim shekelbergstein hiring 1000000000 H1Bs is not creating jobs you kike memeflaggot>oh no, the average person can have a decent quality of life, the horror!
>>541128420I support free healthcare for libtards (lobotomies)
