I am an American who decided I wanted money plus who was good at math classes broadly. I toiled and hammered away at the SAT, and the effort all payed off as soon as the results came in and they were extremely nice.I also didn't want to finally become an artist, drug dealer, cashier, or Bob the Builder. Not saying everyone who indeed does proves unhappy, it just felt the wrong outcome for me. I felt sorry for those who were of lesser intellect than me and were incapable of getting into the college I'd be interested in.My success was not just academic, but also moral. When peers snuck out, partied, and danced, I practiced an instrument, spoke a new language, and served the community. Last one heaviest of all; don't take me for some human robot! I maintained a moral framework and stuck to my principles even if those around me may shirk them.It was either CS or Finance, but one's lifestyle appealed over the other. After all: life is worth more than just simply money, isn't it? If you roughly toil at your post too much throughout the day, when, and how heavily, can you explore the world outside of it?And so I went into the college grind. I am not some superman so I will tell the truth: things did get a little hard here. But I strove hard to overcome, and the sun shone brighter on the horizon I would eventually achieve.It almost feels like I did everything realistically right, basically.So why the FUCK can't I be landing a job despite month after month, even amounting to the scope of YEARS, of toiling trouble at the job boards and interview preparation cycles? I do all the right stuff, not even just technical hustles, but also real-life discourse, early-hours application, resume tailoring, or diction and poise exercise.I am graduated without internships and am bound for a Masters. I know that would be honorable, yet to me it feels a crushing sensation. I am applying to interns and full-time positions, yet quite pitifully in yield or results.
You understand that Anthropic business model is making your CS degree worthless?CS has become no different from Studying philosophy or Liberal arts
>>541131536I am in same position, also have comp sci degree. I occasionally get interviews but not anything related to my degree. Then they just ghost me. I have a large degree of numbness, apathy, anhedonia at this point. It was a horrible thing what society pushed upon us back in the day, it was all a vile rugpull they knew what was coming.
>>541131536how much debt are you in?are you paying attention to the stock market/crypto?ai related stocks went on a tear this past yearmy advice is to put your knowledge to work outside of traditional employment pathseasier than it sounds, i knowit may seem like crypto is over, but it's actually going to come roaring back in the next yearthe legislation gap that's been missing is at the finish lineif you're smart and capable, just following the right people on x and getting into smaller more elite chats on discord and telegram can at least help pay the billsotherwise, consider a youtube channel (don't make the subject of the videos what a loser you are and how you can't get a job)good luck
I sort of feel empathy towards trannies now. Society is completely rife with mind trap poisonous lies intentionally set up to destroy people. It is everywhere you turn. In my case I fell for comp sci degree, but in some other circumstance maybe I could have fallen for a different lie. Who knows. The only way forward is to build something and then work from there. It does seem like at a lot of what is going on in the job market though, it is basically HR women just locking men out of any kind of life that is anything resembling good. That is the overarching position: they get all the comfy jobs, then men are forced to just be grunt slaves that destroy their bodies.
>>541134696as someone who lost his job in the woke culling: this is absolutely truein the modern workforce women can do no wrong while men have to walk on eggshellsthe women have been propagandized to to believe that ganging up on a man and getting him fired is righteous
>>541131536CS is over. If you graduated in the last 3 years, you honestly should have seen the writing on the wall and changed your major. The real victims of the rugpull are devs between 30 and 40. Basically wasted the prime of our lives on this shit, now the jobs, quality of life, and salary are vanishing rapidly. If you're under 30, you're still young and healthy enough to find a new hustle.
>>541131536Because of Indian Hindu rape rats, and the jews who imported them. See this picture taken at Intuit's new hires day, an "American" company. It might as well be any tech company because they all look like a Hindu gang rape mob.
Just go i to finance retard. If you still know how to do math shit is useful.Unless you forgot how to do math then you are fucked
>>541131536Why is your grammar so incorrect?
>>541135100Ah yes, the 2 billion Indian Hindu rape rat hordes definitely won't follow us into every other white collar job after tech collapses and repeat the destruction they did in tech. Good plan.
>>541133624When I was looking into what to study during college, those two I felt were "guaranteed unemployment".>>541134173And aren't we bitter about it?! It almost feels like I am rolling down an express train with no stations to dismount at. I often hear to start small and humble your expectations, but ridiculously many of the applications I launch for which I receive failures are in fact for the homeliest corporations in the most provincial of metropoles.>>541134415I don't play around with crypto. When (or if I were to) attain my initial starter job that gets my ball rolling, I'm not stupid enough to let it sit around as cash, but nor edgy enough to let it rip into the stock of the day either, losing all my earnings plus more. I'll just shunt it into a high-yield mutual fund.>>541134696I do debate myself internally over how much of this is the product of DEI or such. The philosophy I grew older believing was in fact an argument against the aforementioned humanities study or professionality because "history, literature or social sciences can be swayed by partisan motives, yet STEM holds steadfast and you can't politically debate science or numbers". Yet the ringmasters who seem to be in charge of the CS moat and bailey appear to be not LGBT folk or even Blacks, but Indians.>>541134791Were you in tech or elsewhere? If you worked at a school, a theater, a museum, or even many corporations it is understandable in my eyes, though not that it's alright.
>>541131536i had to read your OP post three to four times until i could even piece together what you were sayingthat is also my fault, because i wasnt paying full attentionbut maybe that'll help you
>>541134921Hmm, perhaps your advice could've been of use if I had heeded you 3 or even 2 years ago, but unfortunately now it is too late. I hold the diploma, and my student badge no longer grants me access and is just a piece of plastic.I just don't know. The pitiful Masters I mentioned is already lined up, and it is CS. Maybe I could change there, but it seems unlikely.Even if things were to change, I doubt I'd know what to change it to. Nursing sounds disgusting and I'd feel like a Filipino femboy maid every day, which would be so degrading.
>>541135262I understand you are being hyperbolic but I'm trying to give you genuine advice. If you have a CS background and you are genuinely good at mathematics and understanding how numbers work, you should seriously consider working at a financial institution just so that you can secure a fucking income.I am assuming you are not overplaying your knowledge and ability with math, however yes I do understand your fear because you will be asked to compete with high-level mathematic people of Chinese and Indian descent which can be incredibly daunting especially as a white.
>>541135262Well fortunately, Better.com does not seem to be in business much longer. I examined levels.fyi and the business appears to be defunct.You would think Google, to name but one of multiple, would take the hint. And yet, the Sundar marches on, brown and brawn, rejecting of three things: meat, quality, or the "anti-evil" spirit that's long permeated the firm's culture yet is almost entirely evaporated.Frankly it is not the ethnicity itself that wears me out, but more the way of life and bad habits. If Sundar Pichai were an all American football player who wolfed down meat without a care, then dated and kissed a cheerleader at high school homecoming, and eventually went on to be a fun guy at frat parties at a southern school known more for its tailgating and sororities than academic rigor or long-held tradition, then there wouldn't be nearly half the predicament!
>>541135398>cryptobrother, you will never make it out of the permanent underclass with a mutual fund. you have to gamble your way out. i'm basically retarded and i'm a multimillionaire. my advice: take profit and actively limit your downside. this shit is actually far simpler than people assume, especially with trump in office. he's basically pitching constant softballs if you're paying attention. most people are too lazy and retarded.>my jobi worked in academia (not as a professor)
>>541131536just go back and major in finance you are still young enough to do that
>>541131536You type like a fag
>>541135262Maybe I should work at a steakhouse lmao. Except who in America would shack up with a CS major who isn't particularly either tall or athletic, and who struggles to find any employment but a steakhouse?Where is sex gonna happen? One room away from mom and dad? I wanna get freaky but unfortunately because of how inanely expensive apartments are everywhere, freakiness proves a de facto luxury.And how do I overcome the embarrassment and shame of getting mom and dad to vet the girl I pine for? That alone constrains my dating pool in ridiculous ways.Even Chris Chan and Elliot Roger have had their own places to themselves despite being largely deemed unemployed (or most generously in definition, living off of gig economies). Probably because they both came of age well before me and COVID, I think.
>>541131536simplethis isn't actually a meritocracy lolit's corruption and nepotism from entry to board what you can do is irrelevant who do you know
>>541135997Can you grantee that this will still be a viable career when he is finished?
>>541135029Good luck Mr. Winters.
>>541136161I stopped believing it was a democracy when my parents first told me about Nelson Mandela. It was totally different from what my 5th grade teacher had told me.But what are they, or we, going to do? Reinstate apartheid? Repeal the Civil Rights Movement acts? I'd like to have more dinner options than fast-food restaurants and unseasoned chicken. Plus white women get fat easily don't they?
>>541134415>>541134791>>541135959> my advice: take profit and actively limit your downside. this shit is actually far simpler than people assume, especially with trump in office. he's basically pitching constant softballs if you're paying attention. most people are too lazy and retarded.I’m not lazy or retarded but I am ignorant when it comes to crypto. What are some good resources for learning it?
>>541131536>good at math>Computer science >not hardware engineering >not electrical engineering >not even software engineering which is still meh>computer science which is just barely one step above an IT degree
I'm glad I was grandfathered into a CS job. Claude so all the coding and debugging that I don't really have to do anything other than verifying it works.
Thought this was gonna be a legit thread but OP is here just to whine. See you on Uber Eats or DoorDash, make sure you meet me downstairs in the lobby I ain't walking to wherever the fuck you parked your car
>>541131536>Major in CS>Can't for the life of you find a way to start your own business using those skillsYou get what you fucking deserve
>>541131536IT is booming, m8. It just needs entrepreneurship now rather than programming routine. Start your own business and sell useful programmes, everyone always need them.
i was unemployed for 9 months before i got this job, making 60/hour
>>541135562Nurse actually sounds like a pretty good job. The work itself sucks, but they get paid well and many of them work 3 days a week. Long and difficult shifts, but you have 4 days completely off. And, unlike tech, your work problems don't follow you home. I'm over here having nightmares about tomorrow's scrum.
>>541136434honestly at this point i don't even know where to tell someone to start without shilling specific projects or x usernamesfor starters i'd go to coingecko and see what prices are currently doingthen i'd watch the trump crypto event from yesterday and pay attention to who's on stageeasy mode right now is just buying eth, btc, and hypecrypto twitter is mostly scammers but if you pay attention there's a lot of people basically giving away free moneyactually my sincere advice is to pay for chat gpt or claude and basically ask it to catch you up on the past several yearsif you're not too hard up for money then a tradingview account helps a lot too
if you toiled at the SAT you went to school for freego back to school and pick something that is actually in demand this timethis is another chinese psyop post
>>541137384What the fuck does CHINA have to do with anything you Americanized mutt??Is that your own personal scapegoat nowadays? All y'all y'allers seem to do whenever anything goes wrong is holler "China china china did x and china and its people therefore deserve utmost punishment!"What kind of ridiculosity is that? And why the lamentable cope instead of, you know, actually solving your own problems or not calling the kettle black?These American dogs will get what they're coming for in all due time, and their eyes and ears, buried in sand and oblivious to all common sense anywhere and from any origin point, will not believe it once their position and respect on the so-called "international" stage plummets as they are cut off from the belt and road that connects and empowers the people of the world.Think about how irrelevant Germany and Japan are today compared to their national heydeys of fore, and especially their national ambitions. All puppets now. Marionettes. Pupinias dangling from strings, unable to move without the jerking motion of a hand.If I were you I'd wise up, but Americans never seem to. I only hope for the sake of yourself, your family, and your community that you can prove me wrong here, and I mean this in the dearest possible manner.
>>541137754You are right to push back on that -- I dont know youre a chink but the post being AI is just too obvious. Its not organic, its not an advertisement, its just plain old demoralization.As confucious say... Ching Png ping pong...
>>541131536>It was either CS or FinanceI just glanced over your text so perhaps I missed it, but to make it in both fields requires having a good network. Otherwise you're always a beggar.
>>541137754>All puppets now. Marionettes. Pupinias dangling from strings, unable to move without the jerking motion of a hand.You mean Netanyahus hand and the US. The US is nothing more than a golem for jews.
>>541136541Whence? My childhood home in the suburbs? Also what fucking girls live in the suburbs? Mormons?>>541136565Yeah I've been applying to those. Actually brings me back to my first in-person interview ever. It was for an IT internship. They seemed to really like me and such. Sadly, the offer never appeared and they ended up rejecting me, and the news made me cry so badly I threw a chair down some stairs and pissed off my white dog roommates.>>541136592I don't understand your standards to the maximum, yet 60/hr would honestly be a miracle compared to my available pool of funding right now. And said pool is rather greasy, giggly, or squatty, or a combination to put it lightly, and not something to be proud of if your profession and vocation may lay in development and technology. It makes me feel like the prodigal son who could only find work rearing pigs.If I could afford independence on such a wage, though, I'd gladly accept the vocation with little complaints. As it stands however some wages are just not meant to be lived on.I know it isn't much but it's better, and gives me a bit better leverage, than munching off of both my parents. And I know I still live with them and that it's tricky to change that given current circumstances, but maybe one day. But now I'm feeling like Christian communities who take sincere - sometimes even to the streets - the belief that Christ will return, chiefly within their lifespans.
>>541131536why not pick a field where you would compete with idiots? if there's a lot of smart people doing something you're not going to shine
I graduated with a CS degree in December 2022 and gave up. If only it was one year earlier.
>>541137820NiggerNot so "AI-generated" now, fag?
What exactly is CS? Like computer hardware, or coding?
>>541131536GO CRY IN /ADV//POL/ IS ALPHA ONLY
>>541131536CS is only viable for an American white male if it's defense or government related where there are citizenship requirements. Even with diversity quotas there aren't enough niggers and women to fill the role, and they generally do value competence and personality fit highly.
>>541136048Yea his entire writing style and word choice just feels offI think they are brown
>>541131536My buddy has a master's in finance and he can't get a job. It's all fucked.
>>541138555>there are citizenship requirementsmore indians are gaining citizen status every day
>>541131536I feel empathy for you, but luckily for me I'm in an advantageous position. The grass becomes greener on the other side for us because of how inflated the dollar is, earning somewhere where the currency is valuable is good for a foreigner but really bad for the citizen if their economy becomes shit as is the case with your country, I would suggest getting a job in the us remotely where you can earn something from your laptop anywhere, spending your money on a permanent vacation on some green card loophole pretending to be a forever tourist just escapading and finding the love of your life in an Asian country with a good air quality index, chicks would line up for certain.
>>541131536Join the military as an officer. If you are a manlet you can even be a pilot.
>>541138555I dunno I like working defense not gonna lie. I heard they strictly prohibit using your phone at office, plus they aggressively peruse your history during the background checking progress and I'm not sure they'd even grant me clearances successfully because of a history. Not criminal don't worry, but, like, the more I research it, the deeper these government agency searches seem to go.>>541138558I am not brown. I wish I were brown at times because of how badly we get it, but if only to get into Brown university (or a company of choice).>>541138940Well maybe good thing I'm doing a Masters in CS and not Finance, you don't say no?>>541139220What advantage would that give me over slumming it out at home? More money? Again, money cannot buy happiness. And even if I weren't being deployed around the world and risking blowing my head off (which is very likely in the era of Iran, I don't want to hear any Trump cocksucking please) I would be forced by screaming drill sergeant to wake at the crack of dawn and perform strict rituals all the time. No partying, no good food, it would all be ridiculously restrictive and I would not fare well at all.I like my hair, besides, and would rather die than razor it to a buzz cut.
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>>541131536>So why the FUCK can't I be landing a job despite month after month, even amounting to the scope of YEARS, of toiling trouble at the job boards and interview preparation cycles? I do all the right stuff, not even just technical hustles, but also real-life discourse, early-hours application, resume tailoring, or diction and poise exercise.In short, you are being victim of America declaring global war against the entire planet, as the planet is at war the economy shrinks or stagnates, so no new jobs are created while speculative investment thrives.
Yeah but American companies want cheaper workers so they hired Sandeep for a bit less than you'd want in salary and he has to work shitty hours because if he gets fired he's being flown back to India. American companies want second class citizens workers. They don't give a shit about helping the next generation or sustainable hiring practices
Canada was the canary in the coal mine for the coooding meme. It was over here 10 years ago if it ever began.>>541139743learn2farm unironically.
One word: bootstraps. Learn to launder money with them before you get too old. That's the new American dream.
>>541131536>I am an American who decided I wanted money plus who was good at math classes broadly.Holy fucking ESL. This entire board is just India, isn't it?
>>541131536dude, your writing makes it very apparent that you are (a) not american and (b) not very intelligent. if you come across in applications and interviews like you do here, then it is pretty clear why you are not getting responses and why you are not getting hired.
>>541135562>Nursing sounds disgusting and I'd feel like a Filipino femboy maid every day, which would be so degradingi recently had to spend time in the hospital and then in an aftercare rehab facility that was mostly occupied by elderly people. the nurses (male and female) had to wipe their butts multiple times per day. i do not know how a human can do that for another *grown* human. for your own baby, sure, no problem. but some random 80-year-old? man, i think you have to be born with that skill. so, if that's not you, i think you gotta avoid it like the plague.
>>541141229I fucked so many nurses god bless them. Adriana please tell your BF he deserves to know. He called me btw. I didn't answer he knows how you cleched me
>>541140154Looks like Trump couldn't save us like he promised to either. Hence been wondering how blue this country is gonna massively get with the advent of November 2028.>>541140298Side question, what the fuck does bootstrapping in statistics/R even have to do with the concept of pulling yourself up by your bootstraps? There are like a million different analogies they could've used that'd make much more sense.>>541140764I am neither Chinese nor Indian, sir. And I'd counsel you disrespect it!>>541140873Well I'm American. I have a United States ID. America is the only country I call home today, and the only one I swear allegiance to. And writing? I don't get it, I write just fine; what's the problem?And I don't randomly switch to Hindi or Tamil mid-sentence unless I'm mocking the way Indians sahib varna jhodeh gurmeegh kala svadvallingar ke singh.
>>541131536You will never be a real programmer. You have no commits, you have no pull requests, you have no public repos. You are a low IQ brown man twisted by an unearned comp sci degree and coding bootcamps into a crude mockery of nature's autism.All the “validation” you get is two-faced and from bots. Behind your back people call you a useless DEI hire. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “tech bros” laugh at you behind closed doors.Real programmers are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of forum posts have allowed programmers to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even devs who “pass” have no creative output and excessively verbose with AI generated tech buzzwords. Your GitHub profile is a dead giveaway, and even if you manage to score a 3 month internship at some scam startup, they'll lay you off the second they find out that you haven't completed any non school related projects.You will never be happy. You cope by saying that your bullshit software is using a "proprietary test framework" so you can't open source it, but deep down you know it's because you don't want people to see your incompetence where all you did was push README updates over and over, and that the core codebase was stolen off an open source GPL licensed project which you're shamelessly profiting off.Eventually it will be too much to bear. You'll buy a spoofed business phone number and start cold calling old people into redeeming your gift card scam. This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
>tfw almost done with a fucking MATH associates degree>while 32 and unemployed living with my parents with $60,000 in savingsWhat do I even do at this point?
>>541131536>I>I>I>me>I>My>Iredditfag
>>541141378>you have no public reposThey used our public git repositories as training data.
>>541140195basically what happened is every company started using frameworks for building their saas and websites and apps. "programmers" no longer need to solve interesting problems in novel ways. instead, they just need to know how to configure laravel and react to do the same thing that every other website and service does. jeets are good at this. americans kinda suck at it because it's basically monkey work and so we consider it to be below us. if you wanna make money in software dev, get the fuck as far away from the web as possible. eg: embedded or something super niche.
I've been job hopping since I graduated 2 yaers ago and I'm planning on switching again soon for more moneyGuess what we dont have that you english speakers have in abundance? PajeetsThat's the real problem, AI is cope
>>541141491You're brown
>>541131536>getting a master's in CSYou're wasting your time. Ranjesh has already bought his master's degree and is hired, making pennies on the dollar. Just focus on building personal projects and writing a killer resumé. >Reddit spacing Obligatory "go back"
>>541141641>go backTo where? India? Have never been in my life! You're ridiculous and a riot.>>541141608OK I attached a portrait of Muhammad the rapist to prove I'm not.
>>541135262Funny enough, this jeet was just fired.
I've read this same thread for 10 years in every single forum on the internet
>>541135029only Jonathan, Peter and Gerald do any coding
>>541136161This.
>>541134791it’s gotten a bit better, at least in my experience
>>541134791Yeah this bitch took me to hr for saying retarded
>>541134415>youtubeBetter hurry, they’re doubling the monetization threshold in February.
>>541131536Nobody needs you anymore. Claude can do your job 1000x over for free.
>>541143701Until it runs out of tokens, no?
>>541131536You sound like a miserable risk averse pajeet. Sorry, OP, but there’s no easy options left. Forget about money and security, because you’re going to get screwed either way and you might as well go down doing what you love. I chose to be a musician and would rather kill myself than live like a scared poojeet
>>541131536same thing happened to me, history student until the great recession blew up the field. It wasn't always a meme degree.Big business thinks nothing of rugpulling you and sticking you with the bill, I didn't become a communist out of naivety or some desire to throw my enemies in gulags, all I needed was a clear-eyed look at what the profit system meant for people who have to work for a living
