>No! You can’t execute this person! They were actually so insane they couldn’t help themselves from brutally strangling three young children to death!Have you ever considered how retarded the insanity defense is? If someone is so insane that they can’t help themselves from killing people, how is that supposed to be a reason to NOT put them to death?
>>541132756The point of the justice system is to both separate the dangerous from society and make the dangerous people face the consequences of their actions. If they are clinically incapable of the latter the place for them is an insane asylum, not a prison
incel thread
>>541132756>If someone is so insane that they can’t help themselves from killing people, how is that supposed to be a reason to NOT put them to death?kek I was just thinking about this earlier. She deserves to be executed no matter what the defense is
>>541132756You can't blame somebody for doing something while they're completely detached from reality, if they get treatment they won't be a threat to anyone else
>>541132756you know, these type of people are the same who complain about the poor treatment terrorists receive at guantanamo bay. it's the same pearl-clutching and minimization of crime.
>>541133237how do you tie a knot around three consecutive necks if you're completely detached from reality? how do you know that you need to get your husband out of the house?
Not that anyone will listen but I'll educate you illeterate faggots so pay attention. If you are in a pure delusional psychosis you break with reality and live in a fucked up movie your brain is hallucinating. You think you are literally Batman and you are literally fighting crime for the good of all humanity. But you're not you see, you're just a schizo crazy person who stabbed three old ladies at the 7-11 and then started drinking their blood for experience points. You legally don't know right from wrong as in the pure delusion it all seemed right and morally correct, hence "not guilty by reason of insanity". But you still get locked in a mental hospital prison ward for life. True schizos for instance do not try to hide their crimes, they do not run from police, and often confess to the crimes and explain it was the right thing to do because "The devil was inside my baby and God told me the only way to save him was to microwave him on the baked potato setting". Lindsey Clancy WAS NOT IN A PSYCHOSIS. She made a plan to wait till she was alone, sent her husband far far away to make a window of opportunity, did google searches before hand implying she knew it was wrong and was looking for future defense ideas, and many other clues that she knew right from wrong, she knew killing her children was wrong and lastly she attempted suicide after implying guilt. True schizos never feel guilty as in their delusional minds they have nothing to be guilty for. There have been women who went into a psychosis and killed their children but none of those cases are like this case. All those women had a LONG HISTORY of psychosis breaks including telling anyone who would listen about their delusional reality. Lindsey Clancy told no one anything, she hid her alleged illness which also is not something a true schizo would do. She had zero signs, writings, or speech prior to the crime to imply she was having a break with reality. She's faking.
>>541132756Women lose a lot of attention when they stop being pregnant, and many women can't handle it.
>>541134001>She's faking.Why would it be better for her to spend a life in asyleum than in prison?
>>541134001Famous cases of women deemed insane after killing their kids so you can compare and contrast and sound smart. This woman Lindsey Clancy is a nurse and knows how to fake this and she's faking. Post Partum Depression is not a legal defense to any crime lest of all murder. Psychosis is and there is zero evidence Clancy was psychotic before or on the day of the crime. It was only weeks after her arrest she made any such claims. >Andrea Yateshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates>Deanna Laneyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Joshua_and_Luke_Laney>Dena Schlosser https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dena_SchlosserNone of these women will ever get out of their respective locked hospital prisons. Hopefully.
>>541134223better food, better rooms, better access to healthcare, she can lie to herself and say "It's not my fault, the voices made me do it", less rape, less rape by guards, better visitation rights, and lastly look at her cuck husband and her family. They all are on her side because "it's not her fault, the mental illness made her do it!"I study psychology as a hobby and she's a classic narcissist child killer like Casey Anthony and at this point her main goal is to keep an emotional hold on her family and friends. Narcissists are like energy vampires and they fear loosing people whom they feed off most of all. Being alone and abandoned is the ultimate mortal fear of all narcissists. And sadly however rare and unlikely it is legally possible she could get out in 10 or 20 years. We have no idea how woke and retarded the world will be in 20 years when the Zoomers start taking over on things like parole boards. Even a 0.1% chance of release from a mental hospital is worth it, even if it's a release to a half way house or some other cushy work camp. If she gets three 1st degree murder charges she's going in the deepest darkest rape dungeon the state has to offer, daily rape from guards and inmates, knife fights every other days and the only food you get are what rats and roaches you can catch.
>>541132756I say this since forever.abolish insanity defence.she did it then jail, she did it not,let her go.these are the two options,no need for a third lifelong special expensive care psych encarceration.Insanity defense itself is literally insane or the one psychkike or lawyer retardbrain who came up with it
I cant believe we are in such a fucked up world where a woman can murder the three innocent children that look to her for comfort and love and safety. I cant even imagine how horrific their final moments were when the mother who tucked them in or made them pack lunches is brutally killing them. And people defend her. Like I know this place is for bating and debating, and Im talking all gay and retarded and blog posting but what the fuck man….
>>541133237She has getting treatment. She was already seeing therapists and on a cocktail of headmeds that have disastrous side effects.
>>541132756It’s trickle down Christian morality bullshit, to be merciful and let God sort it out to keep your own slate clean. Europeans have been brutally eliminating defective people from their populations forever. All of the enlightened characteristics of European people are singly due to that fact alone. There are a lot of nice things in a Christian society, like women being restrained, shamed, and subjugated, but growing up is realizing those characteristics appear all through history that predates Christian society, and Christianity merely gave validity to them. Modern Christianity is literally building hell on Earth. Paganism and the altar of heckin science are also retarded btw. The only way forward is a new man.
>>541134673I don’t think she was actually psychotic either. If you’re stark raving mad you stab someone in the throat random, you don’t plan it out with a murder weapon and send people away who would stop you
>>541133237>if they get treatment they won't be a threat to anyone elseuntil they snap again
>>541132756Fuck that. Eye for an eye. Kill her, her mother, and any sisters they have. Kill her aunts and grandmother. Every foid in that family should die
>>541133237So drunk drivers should not be held liable for their actions according to you? Or drugged up niggers? Huh that is interesting
Imagine the fear of the little babies. Imagine the confused terror at their mom hurting them. She deserves to die for that alone.
>>541134673>deepest darkest rape dungeon the state has to offer, daily rape from guards and inmates, knife fights every other days and the only food you get are what rats and roaches you can catch.why in the world do you think that the state is actually bothering to punish them that muchyour tax dollars go to providing them three meals a day, a tv to watch football, and a tablet to play angry birds on.
>>541135910She tied the bands around their necks so tight that blood came from their eyes and noses. And she did it three times in a row. Genuinely evil.
>>541132756I hope she’s found not guilty now. I want to see the absolute meltdown of men. What would it do, would it change anything?
>>541132756It literally wasnt her fucking fault
>>541136027And women are out there defending this murderer. In a way it makes sense since they all masturbate to serial killers/true crime podcasts.
>>541132756there isn't a better case for execution than someone incapable of not committing atrocitiesthe person capable of doing otherwise can be reformedeverything in this world is backward
Does anyone else find it weird we're doing 2 week trials for obviously guilty people.
>>541132756Pretty sure the defense is Swiss cheesing the prosecution and she will get off simply because so many extenuating circumstances will induce some perjury or mistrial
>>541135801I think she just hated her husband, resented having kids with him, and decided to kill them and herself, but failed killing herself and now wants to live even paralyzed in prison or a mental health institution cause her husband has been punished. she's a fucking psycho, but not the type they are portraying in the case.
She is going to be found guilty no one cares about people's mental excuses, it doesn't matter if you were crazy you still did it
Not executing violent psychopaths is like not killing rabid animals.
To be clear, I think Lindsay Clancy should be hung on live TV as a lesson to other child killers. >>541135583>>541135910Her son Dawson(3) seems to have run from his mother as she tried to strangle him, perhaps seeing his dead siblings. She chased him into his father's at home office and strangled him to death there as he likely fought for his life as best he could at three years old. It's likely he ran to his father's office as a subconscious cry for help. Reminder her husband is on her side, blames the doctors.AND FOR THE RECORD she WAS NOT on 13 medications. Many of those medications were found at her house with full bottles meaning she never took them. She was only on FOUR MEDICATIONS and they were standard meds millions of people take in those combinations and doses and don't commit murder. It's also likely she wasn't even taking the full dosage of her 4 current medications. >>541135801Not a single one of her family or doctors said she showed a single sign or report of psychosis and again, if you are a true schizo you can't hide it, at all. I've meet true schizos in real life and they tell you all their delusions, without hesitation. This one guy used to call hospitals around the US claiming to have the cure for AIDS and had like 30+ arrests for going on YouTube and saying schizo shit, dozens of restraining orders, ect. He had a journal he showed me that explained all the details of the angel that lived inside him. True psychosis is obvious. >>541135975I checked and you are sadly correct. Mass only has a medium security prison for women and yes she has access to Ipads. Women get special treatment in everything.
>>541132756Sorry chuds but you're just gonna have to learn to live with the fact that women get so deranged after having kids that they kill them.
Reminder that not a single woman would be defending this whore if she'd strangled 3 puppies instead of 3 children.This is how you know that they're just evil.
>>541132756get over it chud
>>541137855Women are the niggers of gender and to them killing their own kids is a human right.
>>541133237No one makes this argument for spree killers like school shooters who are kids that kill other kids. School shooters are also often on a cocktail of drugs and claim to hear voices too. Oh but when a grown woman kills a bunch of kids its because muh system failed her and she just needs treatment.
>>541137855Every woman in my family wants this cunt executed publicly. The internet and Code Pink are clearly behind the batshit feminists supporting these demonic cunt.
>>541132756If she's diagnosed with an illness it's not her fault. We're not in the middle age anymore
>>541133237she wasn't "completely detached from reality" as she spoke to her husband in a perfectly normal manner in the midst of strangling the children so as not to alarm him. after the call she resumed the strangulation. she should be locked away forever.
>>541132756>She should not be trusted
>>541134673so then why would she do it? say she is a narcisist bitch, why not just leave? be a deadbeat mom? why put herself in such a shit situation?
>>541138550Lindsay Clancy's entire family supports her and her mother in law took the stand in her defense saying the doctors failed her. >>541138545Correct, she's dead but the tranny school shooter in Tennessee had clearly psychotic images in her journal, highly disorganized and schizo writings and was on a cocktail of drugs likely also on black market testosterone. Here is an image from her journal showing her looking into a mirror, with a rifle, and seeing the devil looking back. This is a classic sign on psychosis and she was about the right age for say schizophrenia to start manifesting. This is what a true psychotic person looks like. Lindsay Clancy had highly organized normal journals that only said how much she hated being a mom and hated the stress and the lack of a real life. Not saying being a schizo killer on drugs means you shouldn't hang for murder, all child killers should hang. But just to point out why this case is not a case of psychosis. Which is exactly what the prosecutors are arguing. >>541138708She should be executed by the state on live TV. Tie her to a crane and do it Iranian style.
>>541132756I am of sound mind and spirit the social contract keeping me from strangling kikes and Niggers weakens by the day
>>541132756The purpose of justice is not to punish or rehabilitate, but to neutralize the threat. The only way to do that effectively is to execute murderers.
>>541132756This bitch looks like a peasant witch kek. Despite all her dumb ass tattoos, Shiloh looks like a goddess in comparison.
Hitler had postpartum depression
>>541132756>i-it was a MAN'S voice in her head telling her to do it!
>>541138879That's my post had to change IPs>From Google: In their minds, losing face, being exposed as a failure, or being abandoned is a fate worse than prison. When their public facade is about to crumble entirely, a deeply primitive, vindictive rage takes over. They would rather destroy the entire chessboard than lose the game.People with extreme narcissistic or antisocial traits do not view their spouses or children as separate human beings with their own rights. They view them as possessions or extensions of themselves.A malignant narcissist thinks: "If I cannot have you, no one will. If I cannot control this family, it shouldn't exist."Because they lack basic empathy, they do not see killing their family as murdering innocent people; they see it as disposing of their own property to keep anyone else from having it, or to prevent the property from "rebelling" against them.In some cases, if they perceive they are going down, they decide to take everything down with them so that they remain the central, ultimate author of the family's destiny.Ultimately, they don't just leave because leaving implies they failed to control the situation. To their disordered minds, destroying everything is a perverted way of retaining the final say.
>>541133237counterpoint: waiting til her husband is out of the house to murder the kids shows she is at least cognizant enough of reality to recognize that she'd have faced serious and immediate consequences had she done so while he was in the house>oh the voices told her to after he leftthe voices she never mentioned to anyone, not even her closest confidants or the mental health professionals she was seeing, until after she murdered themand gee golly gosh, however did the voices know that her husband had to be out of the house before she killed the kids?and also, how did the voices know to wait til he was on a task that would have him out of the house long enough to complete the kills? why didn't the voices tell her to kill them when he went down to the corner store for a bottle of soda instead?
I don't understand how insanity is a defence either. You're telling me this person cannot be reformed whatsoever? Killing them is the best for them and society.
>>541132756So when she gets declared not guilty by reason of insanity and goes to the happy hospital for 5-10 years, how well do you think her OnlyFans will do when she gets out? I'm guessing the Jews will have consumed all her roasite gibs from TikTok by then.
Shrangri la Herenvolk
>>541132756The insanity defense historically hasn't worked well because it implicitly admits the defendant is unfit for society and should be locked away indefinitely. This new mutation of the defense that centers around conveniently transient and unverifiable conditions (vague psychiatric drug imbalances and female hormonal variations) is just the most obviously poisonous farce, so it will probably work.
People are trying to judge the free will of the person. Therefore "insanity" works in that it says it was the "insanity" that committed the crime, not the free will of the person. It doesn't make sense in a risk/harm reduction mindset, but if you're trying to make a moral judgment on the person's character, externalizing the murder as the product of an extra will in the person's mind called "insanity" confuses the system. This is all psychology does. It takes some part of your thoughts and externalizes them as "BPD" or "narcissism" or "schizophrenia." They're no longer part of you, but some other thing that lives in your skull. That might be good for treatment, I don't know, but it degrades the efficacy of the justice system severely. Psychologists should've never been allowed in courtrooms.In function it's really not that different from saying a demon possessed her and made her kill her kids; some other "thing" entered her skull and made her do something she would never do of her own free will. Do you believe her? Would an exorcist as an expert witness help?
>>541132930>incel thread
>>541139957it's based on the concept of "mens rea" or "state of mind (roughly)" which is actually a valid and useful legal conceptthe basic idea is that certain crimes require active mental participation. while a death is a death, i think we can both agree that the difference between a retard running someone over because he was texting and driving versus, say, a darrell brooks who consciously chose to plow through a christmas parade, makes for two different kinds of crimes and demand two different kinds of sentencing.insanity defenses operate on that concept. if someone is legitimately so far out of their mind that they legitimately aren't capable of knowing right from wrong, then it's not the same as someone who actively decided to kill someone. problem is that anyone can try an insanity defense, and there's no way to shame lawyers for using it as a hail marysadly, it will continue to exist, but yes, I think such people should be locked away for life regardless, at a minimum. if you're too far gone to know that you shouldn't strangle a baby, the world is not worse off for losing you
>>541132756Look at those dead soulless eyes. She looks like she doesn't even regret what she did
My aging 60 year old mother who's addicted to Tiktok was defending her the other day.
>>541140591She’s on 13 psych drugs retard. They’re neurotoxic and downregulate the parts of your brain that govern empathy. Every mass shooter is on these drugs.
>>541140483she didn't take her meds, she stockpiled them and then overdosed after killing her kids
>>541140591>>541140680That's a common trial thing anyway, since it takes so long for justice to work these days. The events being considered here happened three years ago.
I've seen the future and it's murder
>>541136027That's genuinely upsetting, it breaks my heart to think about that kind of fate befalling innocent children. I hope they fucking kill her.
>>541135899Yes, he can be convicted. It’s called the principle of actio libera in causa. At least in continental law. As a lawyer, I’m quite interested in this woman’s case; she may indeed be not criminally liable. Do you know of any place where I can follow the trial?
>>541132865> If they are clinically incapable of the latter the place for them is an insane asylum, not a prisonIf someone is too insane to punish than someone should be too insane to cure that they should be imprisoned for life or executed also what about the victims
>>541140720she was up 48 hours straight after taking zoloft because these drugs are fucking demonic and are not studied or regulated. but the public is gaslit and told these drugs are safe and effective.Increased suicidality snd violence are official side effects.
>>541132756>executeThis is Massachusetts, dumbass. They don't execute people. Don't even execute dogs in shelters. Life is worth more in the North.
this trial shouldn't be taking place while there's a lawsuit ongoing. the lawsuit means that the clancy family has a massive financial interest in getting the insanity verdict, so they all become conveniently forgetful when the prosecution asks any questions.
>>541132756>HypoagencyWould a man who drove his family off a cliff into the ocean and somehow survived ever be found not guilty or given a 'temporary insanity' pass?We still pretend that women face the same accountability that men do, but its a joke.
>>541140483Psych meds turned me into a lunatic. I quit feeling normal emotions, I only get a response from pretty things, eating, sex, and absurd humor. I now view life as completely absurd and I'm not sure there's anyway to get back into that box.DO NOT JOIN THE MILITARY, DO NOT TAKE PSYCH MEDS. There's no reason to not feel human while you're on this planet because I pretty much just want to die everyday now. Some hooker babbling in my ear constantly, everyone is playing this retarded game, and all I can think about is how ignorant that is, and how stupid life is. I know there's really no hope for a normal life for me, and I can no longer find motivation beyond wanting revenge on the system that did it, but that's like a one way ticket to the gulag in the USA, and I've already been there. They pulled another tooth out yesterday and they tried to convince me subliminally that it was a good thing, like I was getting a cyanide tooth, playing SS warrior / batman games with me again. I know they did it because of my PTSD and that they want my nerves damaged.
>>541133237> You can't blame somebody for doing something while they're completely detached from reality, if they get treatment they won't be a threat to anyone elseBut the problem from that they never learn to take responsibility for their actions as they see themselves as sick and not bad
>>541140483still not legal psychosis that warrants a "not guilty by reason of insanity" verdict. She was not on 13 different meds, she was prescribed on SSRI, didn't take it, told the doctor she didn't like it or whatever, doctor prescribed a second SSRI, that also didn't work, she stopped taking it, another was prescribed. That's common and how people find which SSRI works for them It's insanely common. Most of those 13 prescriptions were full in the bottle untouched at her house, she also routinely took half doses or didn't take her pills at all. She was not heavily medicated and you're a fucking retard. She only had 4 active medications at the time and they were low doses and it was a very common regime countless people take and don't commit a triple homicide. >>541140680Not true
>>541132756If she felt bad about what she did she would plead guilty. Absolutely no remorse. How could she possibly want to live after what she did. She should be begging for the death penalty if she had one thread of humanity
>>541140849she had insomnia before any drugs. i've had periods where i couldn't sleep for around 100 hours, no drugs required. drugs also aren't required for violence or suicidality.>Increased suicidality snd violence are official side effects.so you admit they have been studiedto reiterate: she got lots of prescriptions, and followed none of them.
>>541140975It’s wild seeing normies let big pharma off the hook with this trial and just insisting this bitch is insane.PHARMA DRUGS MADE HER THAT WAY. JUST LIKE THEY MAKE MASS SHOOTERS. THEY GAVE HER 13 PRESCRIPTIONS! Even one is enough to scramble your brains. These drugs are not studied. Longest study ever conducted was one year. Average study is 12 weeks. Zero studies for effects of multiple psych drugs.THESE DRUGS ARE NOT STUDIED.Why the fuck can’t you see this /pol/?
>>541141009>not truegay pharma shill
>>541141078all of those drugs are out-of-patent now btw. cheap generic drugs. what's big pharma got to do with it?
>>541141043>so you admit they have been studiedthey have not been studied, gay pharma shill. your kind always arrive just in time when someone starts criticizing ssris.
>>541140849Who is paying you to shill for a child killer? She suffered from insomnia BEFORE she ever took a pill,it's why one of the FOUR medications she was on was a sleeping pill. >Yes, Lindsay Clancy suffered from sleep disruptions and anxiety before starting her medication regimen
>>541141128Would they really let anyone figure out that they were giving people crazy pills just because their patents expired? I could see not pushing them anymore, I couldn't see letting people figure out that the pharma company should be sued.
>>541134449> None of these women will ever get out of their respective locked hospital prisons. Hopefully.At that point you might as well put them in prison if you can’t cure them
This whole trial is maximum woman moment on display and she will either get probation or life in mental asylum. No in between
>>541132865>If they are clinically incapable of the latter the place for them is an insane asylum, not a prisonWrong, the place for them is buried six feet underthey are not sentient, they're an inhuman animal that gets violent and murders people, it needs to be killed, not coddled for the rest of its life in a 5-star hotel
>>541141193doesn’t matter, akathisia is a side effect of the medications. you’re a gay pharma shill defending evil pharmaceutical companies and their gay evil mkultra drugs
>>541135767> None of these women will ever get out of their respective locked hospital prisons. Hopefully.Nope it comes from kike bullshit where you can be absolved from sin if you are insane
>>541136163>there isn't a better case for execution than someone incapable of not committing atrocitiesThank you, finally someone who makes sense.You see it so often, nigger murders randomly, and the white leftist horde swarms to his defense saying it was a mental health issue.No shit. If your brain is so broken you kill others, you should die.Seeing the braindead reddit discourse on this has blackpilled me immensely.
>>541141130learn to cope with disagreement.>>541141197i don't even know what you're asking. they get prescribed because people seek treatment.
>>541132930wake up, anon. if a father had a nervous breakdown from meds or lack thereof and killed his kids, feminists would be all over it, dogging on men and guns, and feminists would be all over any men who tried to defend him
>>541136049> I hope she’s found not guilty now. I want to see the absolute meltdown of men. What would it do, would it change anything?Kys kike
>>541141092She wasn't on 13 drugs as has been stated countless times ITT. She was on 4 drugs that millions of people take who don't kill their children. She was not taking her medications, there were many prescriptions she filled and were found untouched at her house after the crime. That's a fact. No one is saying the drugs are good for you but you all are lying about what happened. She was not on 13 drugs, she did not take 13 separate medications over 4 months and she was not over prescribed as what she got was basic bitch standard of care practiced on hundreds of millions of people, who do not kill children. It's quite obvious there is a astroturf campaign to let this foid child strangler off the hook and pave the way for post birth abortions and other such feminist horrors we can't imagine.
>>541141009Psych major, former counselor who worked in a state asylum and you are absolutely correct. When people are medicated out of their mind on many different drugs they sleep all day or stare out the window drooling on themselves. Dumb bitch wasn’t medicated hardly at all. She a fucking sociopath. Textbook antisocial personality disorder. If she wasn’t she’d be begging for the death penalty. I’ve seen schizophrenics who once medicated and become somewhat lucid apologize for minor transgressions they committed while psychotic. This cunt has no remorse
You think the healthcare industry is just going to come out and tell you their drugs scramble your brain?I am in utter belief at the amount of retardation in this thread.
>>541139934Why did the voices only show up now to help with her insanity defense after she starts to face real consequences? Why didn't she tell her husband about the voices before she did all the oopsy baby murdering?
>>541132756> If someone is so insane that they can’t help themselves from killing people, how is that supposed to be a reason to NOT put them to death?Don't you feel bad for her? The poor addled broken thing. You should feel bad and let her spend her years in a cushy hospital eating cakes.
>>541141349Well you said the drugs are out of patent, implying that big pharma would no longer have an interest in defending them and therefore big pharma wouldn't have anything to do with the case. But that's not true. They have to continue pretending that the drugs are helpful and safe lest anyone figure out what anon was saying, they were never tested and aren't helpful and can actually make people more crazy than they were previously. If those things were noticed those companies, which still exist, could be sued.Letting the mask slip at all, at any point before everyone involved in making and selling the drugs is dead, would have serious risks.
>>541141466Her therapist told her to say she heard voices after she was arrested and in jail. That’s what the cops overheard
>>541141243>Akathisia is a movement disorder that causes an intense, often unbearable inner restlessness and a strong, uncontrollable urge to moveIlliterate faggot shill, you don't even know what words you are typing. She had tremors so those caused her to strangle two kids and chase the third one through the house and strangle him as he fought for his life? Fucking retard. You're shilling for a disgusting woman who killed her own children in cold blood.
>>541135767>, but growing up is realizing those characteristics appear all through history that predates Christian societyAnon, the world was a dark dark dark dark dark place before Christianity. Your pale ass would have been in chains had it not been for Christianity and your master would have taken delight in taking you, and a slave girl he knows you fancy, and plapping you both. pick up a book some time so you can actually grow up.
>>541141576the side effects list increased risk of violence you fucking retard, quit misrepresenting my argument and defending big pharma
>>541141420if you think critically for a sec, big pharma now has an incentive to spread the idea that generic drugs like sertraline (zoloft) are unsafe, because they no longer hold a patent on them. really, if you think about it, you're the most unwitting big pharma shill.
>>541141356Exactly. This is just the Woman's Union trying to maintain their privilege of avoiding accountability.Its like all the psychos that pop out of the woodwork to support abortion up to birth. They know they are providing cover to psychos killing healthy babies almost ready to be born, but do it to preserve their own ability to avoid consequences 'just in case'.
>>541141658wrong. They would lose credibility and open themselves up to lawsuits. Try again tard.
>>541141646do you believe lindsay clancy is criminally responsible for strangling three children to death? yes/no answer
>>541132756The concept has been around for a long time in Anglo-American law. Since the 1980s, it is extremely difficult to successfully plead due to retards like you.
>>541138022Women are the dogshit of gender.
>>541140895If SSRIs were enough to get a non-sociopathic mother to strangle her toddlers, you'd have millions of Lindsay Clancys every year. All you're achieving by making this case about your little special interest redpill is helping a child murderer get off the hook, by her own lawyer's explicit design no less.
>>541141814Meant for >>541141420
>>541132930You're right, she is currently in a cell. Thanks for pointing that out.
>>541141409Her active meds at the time of murder:Lamotrigine (mood stabilizer/anticonvulsant, often known as Lamictal)Mirtazapine (antidepressant, often known as Remeron)Quetiapine (antipsychotic, often known as Seroquel)Trazodone (antidepressant)>Yes, all four medications list drowsiness (somnolence or sedation) as a known side effect
>>541141814most people taking ssris aren’t throwing a bunch of different drugs at the wall in a short span seeing what sticks and confusing the fuck out of their biology.violence is a side effect.what tests does a psychiatrist run? do they scan your brain? no. they throw spaghetti at a wall. they dont even know what the drugs they prescribe do.
>>541134673Mental hospitals are not so fun as you think, you can still be attacked by dangerous inmates and the staff is monitoring you constantly and writing down your every action.
>>541142003If they're monitoring you constantly, you can't really get attacked very much before it's stopped. I notice you don't deny the part about better food, better rooms, better access to healthcare, and perhaps most importantly avoiding criminal responsibility.
>>541132756Yea well we live in an extremely cruel world whose only higher intelligent species is hellbent on either it's own destruction or eternal stagnation so really there's bigger things to worry about. Start beating women. I'm going to start beating women.
>>541141951they should stop prescribing antipsychotics to people who aren't psychotic t b h
I will simply never believe in "not guilty by reason of insanity", either you did something or you didn't. mindset doesn't matter.
>>541133237This is untrue, I have family members with pretty bad schizophrenia and they’re nonstop trouble for everyone around them
>>541142105Sure, I agree and I'm sure a doctor would argue why it's still ok or off label use or whatever. I agree SSRIs are horrible and 97% of the people on them just need exercise, good food, and to STFU and deal with it. But the fact of the matter is you can't kill your three children and blame SSRIs. The fact of the matter is roughly a HALF A BILLION HUMANS have taken SSRIs and 99.99999999999999999989% do not kill people on them. That's just a fact.
Her silence is deafening
>>541142207>family membersplural? please tell me you're not going to have kids
>>541142223ssris are pretty based if you're thinking "i should kill myself" all day every day for years
>>541132756>Be female wanting to go back to work instead of being a stay-at-home mom.>Kill kids.>Say you were psychotic when you did it. >Feel fine now.Walk free out of the courthouse to the thunderous applause and shouts of joy of foids lining the streets.
>>541132756>make it make senseLittle Nigga in picrel kills ONE girl and he gets the death penalty. OP's picrel kills 3 younger children but somehow that's okay because she's a woman and they were her own kids?What in the world is going on? Why do men automatically get harsher and strict sentences? If Lindsey Clancy gets off, then someone owes an apology to Tanner Horner!
>>541134449You’re mostly on the right track, but you’re fucking up your own argument by pretending psychosis has one universal presentation.Yates, Laney, and Schlosser are useful comparisons because their psychosis had substantial contemporaneous corroboration: prior episodes, hospitalizations, bizarre delusions, hallucinations, witnesses, antipsychotic treatment, etc. That’s the important distinction.The question isn’t whether Clancy behaved like the stereotypical “schizo.” It’s where the evidence is that Clancy herself was psychotic when she killed those children.She absolutely had documented psychiatric problems. But the psychiatrists actually evaluating her BEFORE the murders weren’t diagnosing psychosis. Goodheart evaluated her during an inpatient McLean admission and diagnosed severe major depression without psychotic features. Tufts treated her right up to the day before the killings without documenting psychosis either.Then AFTER three children are dead, suddenly we’re reconstructing the picture as bipolar disorder + postpartum psychosis + command hallucinations + legal insanity.Maybe the earlier doctors missed it. That’s possible.But “possible” isn’t evidence that she actually lost contact with reality on January 24.That’s the prosecution’s strongest argument. Don’t dilute it with bullshit claims like “psychotic people never hide crimes,” “never feel guilt,” or “always have long histories of psychosis.” None of that is medically necessary, and the defense can demolish it.Stick to what actually hurts Clancy:Where is the contemporaneous evidence of psychosis?
>>541132756GEORGE FOID
>>541142686Kek
>>541142385I think one of the few good uses of SSRIs are people who are suicidal. It can and does seriously help people who are at risk of suicide. But most people who get prescribed SSRIs are not suicidal and that's where issues can arise. SSRIs can help people in cases of severe depression with suicidal ideation and the alternative is letting them battle those thoughts alone which basically means 50/50 chance they anhero. If you're already suicidal a side effect of suicidal ideation is meaningless and the "numbness" that most SSRIs give you is a benefit to help you get to some generic baseline and try to recover past your desire to kill yourself. I checked and about 80% of SSRI perceptions are for "mild-to-moderate depression, anxiety, or situational life stress". Which is why the guy calling me a pharma shill is funny. I think many Americans are over prescribed psych meds, but they don't kill their children in cold blood.
>>541142105The problem is that because they prescribe them based on self-reported symptoms instead of based on third-party testimonies and known behavior, anyone with a bare minimum of medical knowledge can fake them and get the prescription
>>541142686INFANT LIVES MATTER
>>541142686GIORGIA FOID*
>>541138751>slovenliness>the quality of being untidy and dirtykek slovenians your response?
>>541132756>so insane that they can’t help themselves from killing people,This is the average jew, a sociopath. The only mystery here is why you are surprised by what she did, considering she's a kike.
Look if she is that much of a uaeless and worthless CUNT that ahe needs to take ssris to be able to function she should be an heroed on that fact aloneThe fact she killed 3 of her kids should be instant execution by torture And the husbamd who supoorts her should be castrated and left to be eaten by pigs
>>541142664>It’s where the evidence is that Clancy herself was psychotic when she killed those children.No there was not, as the prosecution is saying. There was no evidence and we as humans must draw a line somewhere. If the psychosis was so acute and so hidden it showed now signs....oh well, so sad, I don't care. Straight to jail for life. >She absolutely had documented psychiatric problemsThey were mild and tens of millions of Americans have documented psychiatric problems. I have an extensive history of psychiatric problems. That means nothing. At all. >Maybe the earlier doctors missed it. That’s possible.No not really, that strains credulity and no one with common sense would believe that. Even if i say you're correct, see above. Doesn't matter. It's not our job to bend over backwards to nitpick a reason she may have maybe could have been perhaps on a full moon psychotic. She killed her three children and your white knighting is insane and sad. Very sad. I'm not the prosecution and I'm just trying to educate the illiterate anons on this board about general basics of psychology and how one recognizes true psychosis. Because people seem to think Postpartum depression = psychosis.And to further belabor my point, in the court of law to get the extreme mercy of a insanity plea you need to have overwhelming evidence that is impossible to ignore, like the cases I mentioned. Otherwise, fuck you you're fucking guilty. That's fair and that's the way it works. To get an insanity plea you need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt you were bat shit insane. One of those cases I mentioned the mother chopped her 10 month old's arms off and the police found her covered in baby blood singing church hymns on her couch smiling. I stand by my statements.
>>541138751Physiognomy remains undefeated.
>>541142686Good one, monkey
>>541141951I’ve been on Seroquel. Never murdered anybody. I have an active prescription for trazodone too. I have a fuck ton of it in my medicine bag. Still never iced anybody. Fuck this bitch. I hope she gets beaten to death in a woman’s prison by a male to female tranny.
>>541142833no one wants antipsychotics though
>>541143125You’re arguing with someone who largely agrees Clancy’s insanity case is weak and calling it “white knighting” because I corrected your pop-psychology. More importantly, you have Massachusetts law completely backwards.Clancy does not have to “prove beyond a reasonable doubt” that she was insane. Once lack of criminal responsibility is properly raised, the COMMONWEALTH must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she WAS criminally responsible.That’s not semantics. That’s the fucking burden of proof in the case you’re supposedly educating everyone about.And stop confusing “psychosis doesn’t exist” with “the evidence doesn’t convince me Clancy was psychotic.” Those are completely different claims.Psychotic people can conceal symptoms. They can experience guilt. They can attempt suicide. They can behave purposefully. They don’t have to be found naked in a bathtub speaking Aramaic to Abraham Lincoln before the DSM permits the diagnosis.None of that means Clancy was psychotic.In fact, my entire point is that the contemporaneous evidence creates a serious problem for HER: McLean had her inpatient. Goodheart diagnosed severe depression without psychotic features. Tufts treated her immediately before the killings without documenting psychosis. The spectacular psychotic explanation becomes prominent retrospectively.THAT is the argument against her.You don’t need to invent fake rules about how “true crazy people” behave. You don’t need to diagnose strangers from 4chan. And you definitely shouldn’t lecture everyone about the law while getting the fucking burden of proof backwards.You actually have a potentially strong argument against Clancy. Stop kneecapping it with shit that isn’t true.
>>541132756The "mentally ill" are just evil and I'm sick of pretending they aren't. If you "have depression" or whatever the fuck, it's not because you are a victim of Muh Brain Chemicals, it's because you are an evil piece of shit. Suicidal people are garbage.
>>541132865>clinically incapable of the latterThat's bullshit and everyone knows it.
>>541132865>make the dangerous people face the consequences of their actions.Weak people face the consequences of their actions. There are no consequences for the strong.The strong can never face justice no matter how dangerous they are. It completely removes the idea of the purpose of justice being to make those who commit criminal acts of violence face consequences as there is no crime that can truly be brought to justice without the purpetrator being weak.
>>541132865I’m just beside myself that you would post this and then leave the thread. Unfathomable.
>>541143848Nothing wrong with wanting to off yourself
>>541132756>>541132865If I were a lawmaker I would just streamline the capital punishment system:>you cause 1 deathlife in prison>you cause more than 1 deathnet negative on humanity, you're out bucko It would be purely logical, none of that x-th degree bullshit or insanity circus for lawyers to make bank for decades in appeals.Accidents obviously don't count, I'm talking about shit that already nowadays would have you being charged with murder.Regardless if you're a drunk driver who kills a minivan full of people or a serial killer who strangles a dozen boys. More than 1 death and you get sent behind the barn like Old Yeller.
>>541132756She needs to die
>>541132930this is you
>>541132756The husband clearly did it. His new father in law is a free mason. He's related to the local police chief and sold his last house to the district attorney. This was likely his initiation.
>>541134001It's your fault you're a virgin.
>>541146089wtf
>>541135583We're in a fucked up world where jews hijack your country and you let them. Silly bitch.
>>541135861Did you say jewish Epstein files?
>>541146089If my wife posted this I would be filing for divorce that night. What the fuck is going on? How did murdering infants and toddlers become some culture war topic? This case is making me feel like I am actually going insane.
>>541146089there's some ambiguity with these retarded videos. if they're saying they sympathise with the litany of anxious and depressive symptoms, then fair enough. many suffer those things, not least post-partum women. but are they also saying they don't feel any bond with their kids? while having their kids in frame? that's disturbing
>>541132756There's no death penalty in Masshole-chusetts.
thou shalt not kill>>541132930fuck you bitch
>>541146236apparently there is a whole trend of mothers holding their babies/kids while having the "same, lindsay" textI can't imagine what the kids fathers must feel, if they see this
>>541146440what if the kids are being really annoying and stole your life from you though???
>>541134673don't forget her insanity being the prerequisite to even have a chance of winning the civil suit against the medical providers who "failed" herif it was just straight up murder, she, her ex-husband and their families can kiss those sweet millions goodbye
>>541132756>people deny physiognomyThat bitch looks crazy as fuck from a mile away
>>541146530if they're smart, they'll hire a divorce lawyer on the quiet"my wife posted a disturbing image to social media of her holding our child abd saying she feels the same as a woman who admitted to killing her children" is probably pretty good grounds for divorce
>>541146746>"Irreconcilable differences" means deep and permanent disagreements between married partners that cannot be fixed. It is a legal term used in family law to allow a no-fault divorce, meaning nobody has to prove blame, cheating, or abuse to end the marriage.
>>541146191you'll know this is true if she gets found not guilty by reason of insanity and the lawsuit mentioned in >>541146614 ends up winning beaucoup bucks
