>cutting taxes and increasing spendingbut this is how you buy votes from MAGAtards, how else would Trump win?
Trump and his buddies love this economy.
when the alternative is to raise taxes and raise spending, then smart people would rather choose the former
When the alternative is to raise taxes and cut spending, then dumb people would rather choose the former
>>541160396I think the US Debt is too far gone now.It can't realistically be fixed.Raising taxes - Not happeningCutting spending - Also not happeningWhy even talk about itIts practically a dead horseJust allow the inevitable disaster to unfold.
>>541160798spending never gets cut, so its never part of any alternative
when the alternative is Comrade Kamala Harris raising taxes on hardworking Americans and inflating all the prices, then smart people would rather choose the former
>seize j*wish assets>ban j*daism>deport j*ws>send drumpf's family to gitmo and execute them on live TV>give every zesty youth $100,000 to remigrate to africa>dismantle the federal reserve>switch to gold-based economyDebt set to 0All problems solvedGolden age begins
>>541160396What we have in the US is party based political warfare. You are given power over the treasury and your answer is to say 'nah we won't spend any money'... doesn't really work as a strategy when your opponents are all spending money and gaining political influence from doing so
Wtf is happening with buybacks and btcI didn't think we could afford debt buybacks
>>541160396Pretty sure people with room temperature IQ can't comprehend how the economy works on general but whatever
>>541160844>spending never gets cut, so its never part of any alternativeSpending was cut under Clinton. The national debt was reduced
>>541160977>buying debtInvest in magic beans too, they're going to be huge
>>541160396i love how the disastrous iran war is accelerating the fall of the american empire to levels previously thought impossible
TbhfamalamThe economy is fake
>>541160396the moment Trump is out, every MAGA will be like "OMG the debt! spending!!!! waaaaaah1!!111!!"
>>541160396>Why Is He the Only Republican Who Understands Basic Economics?Because he's the only one not a kikesucker.
>>541160396Keynes bros? Our response?
>>541160396why is cutting taxes calculated in the deficit?i mean, i get why since there's less money to spend and more debt on credit, but why is this deficit even talked about?why is government spending included in GDP?government spending is literally just taxes, so you make money, which is actual economic growth, then you take 30% of that, and spend it...which isn't economic growth, its just spending money made from economic growth...so you are just double counting 30% of genuine economic growthobviously, lower taxes is beneficial to the economyis there a non retarded metric that can be used to judge economic health?
>>541161018Only because of Republican-dominated legislature trying to fuck him over. It didn't work, and they're never going to do it again. People would rather pay the inflation tax they can control than the mafia tax they can't
>>541160396Maybe the deficit is the future ways to control usa they will be dependent on forgine aid to buy the debit.
>>541160835You are right. The collapse of Imperium Americana is indeed inevitable.
>>541161537Two brown poor people who have clairvoyance over the future of the US.
He doesn’t. This is an obvious over-complication and you are a pseud.
Talking about debt/deficits in the US in 2026 is basically just making fun of goyim dumb enough to still think any of that bullshit genuinely matters. Massie is a narrative foil cast by the same people who made this mess in the first place. This is just another joke at your place expense, but you'll praise this slimy fucking coward anyway.
>>541160977Securities buy backs are basically liquidity injections. They exchange securities for money and the “system” gets more money when its liquidity constrained. It’s ironic because it’s always basically just a bank bailout since they can just issue credit without reserves.
>>541161264There's nothing wrong with it, until it's in the hands of the completely corrupt or even worse the completely deliberately destructive. There's no way in hell IMO that any of the western nations need to run such huge deficits, Australia's was also completely corrupt and brought on by the covid hoax and our happy clapper treasonour PM handing out hundreds of billions.
>>541161663where do i go to read about shit to not be financially illiteratei have no clue what the fuck any of this finance talk means and im sick of not knowing
>>541161264>>541161709When your only product is sleazy financial fuckery and a promise that "line go up", it's only a matter of time. America is over, it's just gonna take a while for people to start feeling it. America is huge and propelled by inertia from WW2. It's now brown, broke, toothless and culturally devoid.
>>541160835You are completely right.But we're trying to play it as straight as we can and make somewhat of an effort, just for show.And the rest of the world can bitch, but what are they gonna do? Come get their money? Them and what army?Fact is, the world is scared of America, and you fucking should be. You niggers need to get your shit together enough to actually scare us. Maybe then we'd respect you, and make a genuine effort to pay off our debts.In short>Do something, pussy
>>541161864It's just jargon to disguise the fact that banks are moving money around between each other to create the illusion of prosperity and functionality while the actual economy craters. Financialization is the most Hebrew process imaginable.
>>541160835>>541162126I think AI will actually be so big though that it dwarfs the current debt in terms of productivity growth. It's bigger than the industrial revolution. It's huge, you don't understand.
>>541160396Whoa he speaks just like us!
>>541161344nope. it's all subjective bullshit in the moment, and only objective analysis after an event which is then determine to have been good or bad; and whether or not there is still an active effect of said event. Social sciences aren't true sciences, observational speculations more than anything.
>>541162232You're incredibly fucking stupid, then.
>>541160396Everybod understands basic economics (except commies). The problem is that they are paid very well by interest grouos to do the opposite.
>>541161663Yes but this is only being done because long term bond yields are mooning, when this shuffle fuck doesn't work the printer is going to go brrrr.
the deficit only matters when its presidential election season and the gop needs a classic attack angle on dems because they never, ever have a good rebuttal for it
>>541160396You are under the impression they don't have a certain PAC in common that encourages then to do this.
>>541162232Wasn't speaking to you and don't care about the AI fad. That's for surveillance and brainwashing the masses.Of course they'll spend tons of money on it. It's not my money.
>>541162551surveillance was already solved by classical machine learning methods decades ago, the LLM is useful for building stuff>>541162281No you are
>>541161018>Spending was cut under Clintonyes and infrastructure began to crumble in the years and decades following. public services declined and cities fell into deep disinvestment. you do actually have to spend money to invest in your citizens for the long term.
Every thread on this board that deals with the national "debt", the deficit, etc. no matter which political point or party it is trying to support and/or needle, is almost always entirely wrong because this board doesn't (or doesn't want to) understand the difference between a currency issuer and a currency user.
>>541160396triple digit iq?
>>541161018Clinton is dead. It is time to let go.
>>541160396All Congress, all executive, all judiciary, so major corporations and banks. They are all in on the grift. And the grift is to fuck over 99% of the population, to enrich the 1%
>>541163135He is right, you're a retard. You can't AI your way out of this debt, tech bubble bro.
>>541163751Ya right you leftoid psyop fags are probably more invested in AI than anyone.
>>541161344>why is government spending included in GDP?will you kill yourself when you discover that your REAL GDP is on Brasilian lvl?
>>541160396> why is the the only republican that understands taxes"economic consequences only affect goyim, send money"
>>541161344>why is government spending included in GDP?Why don't you think about this for about two seconds?Why would the government need money from you? Where did you get it from?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mODnz8DnhCQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5JTn7GS4oA
>>541162232I agree in theory. AI is a logic machine that reads the material and masters it, being able to answer questions and quickly do tasks that'd take humans hours. However, there's a problem. AI can't and won't be used for thos because if it is, it will expose all of the corruption and useless bullshit that permeates everything. If we had an AI that was running numbers and keep track of the national budget, we would also be able to locate and find out who and where money is being siphoned. It would also cut down on bureaucracy because it would be able to send, recieve, and process "paperwork" exponentially faster than humans could and with better and higher accuracy. It would cut down on processing time dramatically. That won't do. If that happens, niggers and women are out of jobs, the system would be auditable, laws could be processed and made with 0 loopholes (putting lawyers out of a job), and medicine wouldn't need as many doctors.People pretend to want it, but they don't. In America, we're only "racing" because China is doing it. We don't actually plan to use it for the correct use cases at all. I know this because I work for a massive Healthcare provider. I am hired to do data entry for nurses because the managers don't want to. As someone doing it, I can tell you right now that AI could and honestly should replace the managers and administrators at the hospital. Things would move faster with either the same or better accuracy and save a shitton of money because these 6 figure jobs wouldnt exist, but it would cause all of the higher ups being removed. They refuse to implement it, even for my use case. I made a fucking presentation just for my job, and I got a shitton of blowback, all making ridiculous claims of why we shouldn't use an AI that was developed in network and remains in network. AI could be great. It won't be because of goy brained goy cattle.
>>541161018and there was even a surplus, rightLMAO
>>541161663>it’s always basically just a bank bailoutthere are a ton of mechanisms that effectively fall under this blanket termwhether QE, reverse repo, etcssdd
>>541160396Because hes not a fucking jew
>>541160396>Why Is He the Only Republican Who Understands Basic Economics?Repugs do understand basic economics, but they only care about making the rich richer, they dont give a shit about jobs or helping the poor, that is why they push the bullshit that 'tax cuts pay for themselves, tax cuts create jobs' when all tax cuts really do is make the rich richer, its not rocket surgery, but tards still argue about this simple fact
>>541160880>comrade Kameltoe Youre posting from literally the most Horrifically dark and brutally cucked country in the world. Act accordingly.
>>541160396>this is how you buy votes from MAGAtardsDid you seriously think libtards will do something about the ballooning debt? If anything, they'll inflate the debt even more and tax you even higher. You'll get California style spending billions on projects that are never achieved and is just corruption hiding in plain daylight. Only a libtard would fall for that and claim it's somehow 'better'.
>>541160396>hands in pockets libertarian gee whiz moment >gottemWhat an absolute cuck
>>541166892>projects that are never achieved and is just corruption hiding in plain daylighta lot of this is rightoids masquerading as libs. they will come in to slow down something like a rail project and say "we need more studies though because of the trees and to make sure we're serving the right people" or some other nonsense. then some independent group gets $900k to perform said study which takes 4 years. then momentum is lost, they find some reason to stop all progress. then you come to find out that the people calling for the study are donating to a GOP politician in the next local election that is vowing to kill the project with no other plan.
>>541168496glad people are starting to figure out conservatives engage in false flags, mostly from the most niche and etxreme shitlibbery, to reinforce parasitic rents.
>>541168496Oh yeah bro the California high speed rail project faiked because those damn conservatives have so much power in California.
>>541160396The economy feels no different than when the deficit was $10T less.
>>541166071nah bullshit jobs will be on the chopping block in the coming deacades, for demographic reasons alonethe us might hold out longer because of mass migration but europe and china will adopt it
>>541161985Orc magic only works if you produce a product worth investing in
>>541161018Debt wasn’t reduced. Clinton lowered the deficit.
>>541160396Is he still threatening to release the Epstein client list?
>>541160396You can't be Zogblican and understand basic economics as we've discovered watching miggers do their best poojeet immitation and shit up everything
Most conservatives think that if you cut social welfare then the total spending goes down. This, however, is not true if you then increase military spending by even more than what DOGE cut. But military spending never factors in, because conservatives love going to war for Israel so damn much
>>541169134I disagree in America because the government and Blackrock pay to make up money lost for the inefficiency. There's no incentive to become better because they're not losing money. I hope you're right and I'm wrong.
>>541169384>because conservatives love going to war for Israel so damn much
>>541161198This. Ive now officially graduated to having been fully on both sides, and can conclusively say this will happen. Both sides are awful. Right now, all the SHIT trump is doing is being minimzed and outright gaslit to rightoids as actually goodthing or acschully its bidens fault. When biden was in office, leftist did the same shit. Its bullshit, the leaders of both sides want the same outcomes, and use talking points to lie to their own base to win, while doing the same thing in power. I remember Obama being sold as something different, turns out the samething as bush. Trump was "anti-establishment", turns out he was just "pro-israel"
>>541168818please learn to read, and then read between the lines too. and it's not just CA. it's TN, GA, basically most states where any transit project is proposed. wonder why that is...see: >>541168702
>>541160396The irony is that the left doesn't give a shit about the deficit either, fiscal responsibility went out the window once lobbyists realized the government was a glorified pinata, they actively participate in the scam. The nature of our fiat promotes credit lending but never debt collecting, if you cannot even afford to pay down interest you'll never pay down a principle. Government knows they can't pay down debt because they can't collect it in taxes, if they did there would be nothing keeping people using their fiat. The minute the government actually collects on debt it will lose all sense of "reliability" and be destroyed, it's a ponzi scheme meant to trap new investors to support purported "endless" credit lending, this isn't even capitalism it's just criminal.
