Got interrogated by the police today suspected of assault. There was one constable in casual clothes and just a badge to identify him as an officer that led me and my attorney into the interrogation room. He just asked me about the case and when I didn't want to comment on something I would just say "no comment" and he would immediately move on to the next point. After that we looked at his iteration of the interrogation (filming and recording interrogations is not allowed here) where I and my attorney would change my testimony before signing it (an interrogation is not valid if not signed by the suspect). After that the detective just straight up told us that the only evidence against me were 2 unreliable witnesses (police aren't allowed to lie here) and then he small talked with my attorney about dishonest landlords.In the US the police are allowed to lie and to pressure suspected criminals.
everything is corrupt
>>541168920>In the US the police are allowed to lie and to pressure suspected criminals.Every large country devolves into an inhuman machine, not just the US. This is not to say that a small nation can't be a shithole as well but a large one cannot avoid it while a small one can
>>541168989But you see if there was actual evidence against me then I would be screwed. This current thing is just a ploy by my former landlord to get back at me for sending a debt collection agency after him for not paying back my safety depositWere I in a lesser country I would be automatically assumed to be guilty simply because I'm poorer than my former landlord
>>541168920police are all niggers because if you assert your rights they think you are a dindunuffin for undersatnding that you have rights therefore cops must die the end
>>541168920>Got interrogatedGet a lawyer. Get one now. Lots of lawyers give you free consultation. Honestly, a few thousand now (even if youre innocent) will save you 10's later.Never, ever talk to the cops. no matter how casual and friendly.
I've been interrogated a couple times. The investigators would try the dumbest little tricks trying to get me to slip up.>when was the last time you saw Bob?Last week.>OK... When you saw him yesterday what was he wearing?I didn't see him yesterday.
>>541169136>Every large country devolves into an inhuman machineEverything large does this like cities and companies. When the top of the group doesn't have personal relationship with almost everyone in the group it ends up as an inhumane machine
>>541169243I had a free lawyer with me the whole time and it's the same one that represents me in my dispute against my former landlord. Since I'm a poor student I have to pay 0 euros for his services and he will keep defending me indefinitely in civil cases and in criminal cases. If this case gets too complex I can get another one for free to assist him
>>541168920You don't have to talk to the police at all. Now the prosecution will look at your interrogation and find something to impeach you with.>Did you tell the police X?>This witness claims Y. Why should we believe you Mr Benis when you lied to the police
>>541169375Good luck, anon.
>>541169400You don't get it. I had my attorney with me during the interrogation and in Finland the interrogation doesn't become official unless the suspect agrees to it's contents.In theory I could say "I murdered 10 children!" to the interrogating officer and he would have to redact that if I so wanted in order to make the interrogation official.
>another thirdie obssessing over the USA threadstick to what ya know, kid
>>541169284They have to try those kinds of tricks on you too because if they only used them on the suspects that always fall for it they'd be accused of racial profiling
>>541169284This was my first interrogation so I can only give an anecdote, but the constable only asked my views and opinions. There wasn't the slightest sign of any trickery and when he gave me unpleasant questions and I skipped them he would just go on to the next point without batting an eye. And like said I had my attorney on my side the whole time, he only grilled the detective about details since the questioning was so soft.
>>541169136No its jew an niggers, look at Israel or Uganda
>>541169525In the United States of Israel there is no poverty, injustice or corruption unlike in the degenerate west
>>541169772>unpleasant questionsLike what?
>>541168920Was this interrogation mandatory?
>had his attorney presentVery good, anon. Everyone here should do that. Never talk to police without your attorney present.Stay safe out there anons.
>>541169284lolive been interrogated one time, at 16.there were 2 detectivespig very intense dude:>where were you last nightme, very nervous inside, steel eyed and voice steady:>i am not a snitchthey stared at me for a few minutes in silencethen asked more questionsme:>silenceneedless to say, cops dont ask me questions they just arrest me now
>>541168920>police aren't allowed to lie hereWow, imagine
>>541169955Well I don't have perfect memory but something akin to>Do you know this man>Did you assault him>How did you assault him>Do you agree or disagree to these chargesI actually said "no comment" to the last question but my lawyer corrected me so we, with the constable, changed what I originally said in the transcript to say "I deny these charges">>541170000Attending it was mandatory. Answering the questions was not.
>>541169571Kek probably. They probably wouldn't try it if it never worked in the past. In my case they were trying to track down a friend of mine. When my friend called me I just told him don't tell me anything because I'm going to be interrogated again and I don't want to have to tell them anything. I told the police that also. I would take the battery out of my phone too because they wouldn't let me take it into the room. Sounds like your police are a lot more professional.
>>541169523>I had my attorney with me during the interrogationHe should have told you not to answer.
>>541170577Instead of no comment, why not just say no to all those questions?
>>541169400Over here you have to say "No Comment" to every question or you could be charged under some law for not being helpful to police.Also very common to be asked to come over for a "chat" so they can arrest and interrogate.
>>541170419Pretty good for a young guy. I probably would have been too freaked out at that age. I don't get in trouble anymore so I don't mind the occasional conversation with police. I always ask them what the town's crime is like.
>>541170806In Sweden and Finland, courts are allowed to treat your silence as suspicious. In Swedish courts where the suspects says "no comment" throughout the interrogation and court proceedings (we don't have a 5th Amendment), the judge will regularly rule that not talking to police at all is "indication of a criminal mindset" and evidence of wrongdoing.
>>541168920Of you're the sort of person to believe a cop when he tells you he has evidence against you when you know it's impossible, you might be a fucking idiot. Not that I am defending the practice.
>>541170806Not really. The system is not so "mined" as it is in the Americas, because the suspect pretty much decides what goes into the final interrogation transcript. If you accidentally speak yourself into a corner you can just refuse to sign the paper and the police has no choice but to accept a more beneficial version of the transcript since the suspect has to sign it. Like I said there are no recordings either video or audio, it's just what the police officer writes and what is then accepted by the other side.I just told about my dispute with my former landlord and where my attorney told me to say "no comment" I said "no comment".It's very fun how some criminals still confess despite this. We have transcripts of professional drug smugglers saying adamantly "I will not say a thing" and then saying "oh well yes I did smuggle those kilos" because for them not getting a free attorney is some honour thing.
>>541171053This is true, yet our courts still rely on "actual" evidence. I can be as sus as possible, refusing to answer every question, yet if you can't prove within reason that I'm guilty of something then you can't convict me
>>541171280That's supposed to be how it works here and tends to be how it works. The cases it doesn't matter are shit like domestic abuse or rape. No concrete evidence needed.
>>541169136Do any nations have laws that explicitly state that cops can't lie? Genuinely curious if anyone knows.
>>541168920>to pressure suspected criminals.To pressure and abuse anyone, cops are the criminals and they want to harass and abuse regular and working people period.>>541169136>Every large country devolves into an inhuman machine, not just the USNo, how about it's satanist judaic criminal scum destroying the country and attacking working people.
>>541171539I can understand why you would have this mentality about say UK cops, whose workload is persecuting thought criminals. Yet I thought that in the US most police work was "actual". What would you do without them?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMq71JHHK24
>>541171678So you're trolling. US cops criminal dirtbags and actual terrorists.
>>541171101Look it's just the practice here. It's illegal for them to lie to us. If cops here do any small thing wrong there will be a whole circus.
>>541171783I don't understand what you mean. You don't have the excuse of english not being your first language
>>541168920>In the US the police are allowed to lie and to pressure suspected criminals.That's always been a sticking point to me. Truth is so fundamental to justice that when you allow the representatives of the state to lie the entire process becomes completely corrupted.
>>541170973i was a fuckup then, still kinda am.that interview was about some random felon guy i didnt know pulling a shitty saturday night special on a retarded whore who made up bullshit to get her 6'2 meathead bf into a fight with whoever to make her pussy wet.i can talk to police, we have some mutual respect but they arent here to help.i get detectives and agents when i catch a case. local pigs deal with nigs, spics, and natives mostly. often a pleasent attitude without any details about the situation at hand but some small talk will get one home safe without a ticket when dealing with local pd or sheriff's deputies.
>>541169284Probably works on the left side of the bell curve all the time, so worth a shot
Never talk to the police. Also, shoot the police.
>>541171936Why the latter?
btw, if you get questioned by detectives about posts on 4chinz, shut the fuck up.if theyre talkimg to you, it means they have nothing until you rat yourself out.if you shitpost slicy enough, and have solid experience and equipment then they wont ask you. theyll follow you and look through your garbage for months.
>>541171936Why shoot the police instead of shooting the people controlling the police?
>>541172323>>541172926assume its a fed and move on niggers shit
>>541168920So whom did you assault and why?
>>541168920In Poland they usually approach you like thishttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/vxHjaIGMr5k
>>541168920>In the US the police are allowed to lie and to pressure suspected criminals.Yes. They will try anything they can to get you to confess. Coercion is supposed to be illegal for them, but they'll threaten you with 50 years of "fuck-me-in-the-ass prison" if you don't confess, and then dangle a measly one year sentence if you do confess. You'd be surprised the amount of people sitting in prison for self-snitching. Can't really blame them when they get threatened with never ending nigger rape by law enforcement.
>>541175402In Poland they do it by using the pre-trial detention, where you are imprisoned in a place far worse than regular prison and they can hold you there as long as the proceedings go so even for years, if you confess or snitch on your collegues your process will speed up you get some time in jail and are transferred to a regular prison (mostly)Its so fucked up that here you can throw people in isolation without getting convicted to force cofessions.
