When did it become the norm for western women to have premarital sex, and how do we reverse it? I’m glad to see slutshaming is making a good comeback but we need to go further.
Why are you brown and gay?
>>541189825If wanting to marry a virgin is brown and gay then I am the BROWNEST FAGGOT ON EARTH,
>>541189894Turd worlders love the patriarchy
>>541189700Sound of a girl with hyman?
My dad taught me premarital sex was cool and i lost the love of my life because I thought i could do better Boomers raised a generation of whores
>>541189700the only way to reverse it is to have criminal consequences for the men as well, but pol is too misogynist for that conversationput chad in jail for man whoring and bring back shotgun weddings and you’ll have the woman problem 50% fixed
>>541189700don't fall for it, they can sound that way when they are blown out BPDemon whores with quad digit body counts
>>541190305yeah chad definitely should actually be curb stomped for being the other half of the problem
>>541189988Western civilization was always patriarchal until Jews subverted it. Feminism has been one of the Jews most powerful weapons used against us.
>>541190094Your life isn't over yet.
>>541189988>T.hole
>>541190305As a certified extreme misogynist I am actually in favor of this. If a man has sex with a virgin he should be forced to marry her.
>>541190305why do femcels always assume that men are against punishing man whores?
>>541189700You're gay
>>541190358Yeah in the 18th century. Unlike turd world shitholes, we are not stuck in the past
>>541189988>>541190358Western patriachy was never like shitskin patriachy. Poeple also didnt obsess over nudity hookers etc.
>>541190865>patriarchy is the past>matriarchy is the futureThe matriarchy is already falling apart. Women have nearly taken all the wealth men have to give, or are willing to give as the simps and marriage (and society) dies out.
>>541190305The "too misogynist" opinion on this topic is that women are subhuman, and that therefore the buck stops with men, and therefore men who are promiscuous get their cocks chopped off.
>>541190305You can't expect weak men to create good times
>>541189700By killing, killing and killing Torturing, torturing and torturing By spilling a sea of blood By slaughtering billions By skinning alive every single, traitor and shitskin That's how you stupid nigger shill You all deserve painful deaths
>>541190305Skin Chad alive Disembowel him and his family as well, kill his friends, coworkers and petsKill anyone in a 200 mile radius
>>541189700based>we need to go further.We need separate political representation between men and women. Men must vote for people whose primary job is fight only for male interests ( force women to go to war, force women to get nothing on divorce, force taxation to be separated between men and women, force no tax money going to male "refugees")basically we men need to be men again and separate ourselves from the women politically
Once I will take power all chads will be shaking in their boots begging for the least painful torture along his whores
>>541189988you are an absolute retard. have you been to the third world? I don't have time to explain to anyone reading but know that this guy is an absolute retard and wrong about everything. go see for yourself or just trust that he's an absolute retard.
>>541192248evolution never selected for iq or at least muh abstract thinking type of iq
>>541192452>evolution never selected for iqI'm really sick and tired of these women values and women rethoricCivilization is a bunch of incels selecting for IQ, you retard. Think about it. Men forced monogamy onto women for years and forced the father of the woman (an incel) to choose her husband, and he would chose a husband for her based on his values and his work - essentially IQHigher IQ people forced their daughers to marry high IQ people similar to them, lower IQ people ( but still functional, capable people with work ethic, your blue collar guy ) would force his daugthers to meet a blue collar guy (a peasant working the farm in older times )
The school system is the one thing I almost never see questioned which is in my view responsible for the majority of the problems with modern people's behavior. It is a really unnatural system which more or less came into existence in 1900. In 1800 something like 1/5 of british children went to school on sundays and that was it. To the question, it should be obvious that when you have a bunch of 16 year olds together in a room all day long apart from society, they are going to fuck eachother. The school system is just hilarious.
>>541192639>Civilizationis a whooping ~11k years old (first anatolian settlements), homo evolution is ~2 million, what the fuck are you even on about?
Also other factors:>welfare, forced women equality in all workplaces, fiat currency: women no longer need a male provider>divorce, loss of male ownership of females: marriage is meaningless>abortion, condoms, birth control: no need to worry about having a kid>child support, welfare, alimony etc: even if you do have a kid, it's someone else's burdenBut the real answer is the school system. That is the social environment where everyone loses their virginity. It is not a natural social environment. It has little to do with how children were raised before 1900. There is no way to put a bunch of kids together from 5-22 and not have them bang eachother like crazy.
>>541190305TRVKE
>>541189700>how do we reverse itrealistically you can't (and won't)you get to live your standards of only marrying virgins but you can't make others live that same standard.congratulations
>>541192817The average IQ of stone age hunter-gatherer societies and desert dwelling retards, and Africans, is in the high 60's to low 70's range, but basic civilization has an intelligence requirement that corresponds to an IQ range at least in the mid 80's, and modern advanced civilization has an intelligence requirement that corresponds to an IQ of high 90's at least.Where do you think this increase in general intelligence came from? Did it spring out of a hole in the ground?
>>541192661>>541192848Truth nuke. The satanic education system is nothing more than academic slavery meant to brainwash and corrupt. We need to get rid of it ASAP, but normies are too retarded to understand its damage and so they will continue on with the status quo.
>>541193146he probably does not listen to logic and arguments, a sympton of women selecting their own partners and selecting always for low IQ, spawning people like him who are more animal than a (logical) human
>>541193159what about it is damaging and satanic?
>>541189700Why reverse it? You get to have sex with women before they're married. What deranged loser would want to give that up?
>>541189700>When did it become the norm for western women to have premarital sex, and how do we reverse it?the 60s. it's probably time to for you to get over it.
>>541193159It necessitates a lot of much bigger laws being changed, like make child labor legal, make child abuse (to some extent) legal, make discrimination legal (so people can create their own schools), probably get rid of age of consent laws as well. I actually think the optimal age of marriage is 21, since that is when amish marry and when euros historically have married, but age of consent laws are just another way for the government to micromanage and mess up peoples' lives. Essentially the whole of western law needs to be thrown out at this point because it has been so corrupted by basic failures like men losing their ownership of women and children, men losing their right to use violence in appropriate situations, mens' ownership of their communities, etc. Basic principles which any 14th century english man or modern taliban would understand have been trampled by the law for centuries and the result is a legal quagmire.
>>541189700Her dad should sue their orthodontist.
make them property again like the bible told you idiots a long time ago in the tenth commandment.
>>541189700DO NOT do anything or interact with a female that is not a pure virgin. That's it. NO EXCEPTIONS.
>>541193159>The satanic education system is nothing more than academic slavery meant to brainwash and corrupt.This is an emotionally salient narrative, but it doesn't actually explain or describe anything.>but normies are too retarded to understand its damageYou need to demonstrate the damage. You're not entitled to having people automatically believe you, especially when you're suggesting there is magical or supernatural involvement.
>>541193333>I actually think the optimal age of marriage is 21Checked quads but you're wrong. The moment a woman bleeds is when she can bear children and the moment a man's balls grow hair is when he can be a father. End of.
>>541193410>tfKill yourself faggot nigger
>>541192248Pretty much.
>>541193146>stone age hunter-gatherer societieshow'd you measure that?and again, intelligence is not always muh autistic number crunching and formal logicbeing disease resistant and strong was the primary evolutionary driver for 99% of history>Where do you think this increase in general intelligence came from?accessibility of food I'd wager, especially fats which make most of the brain go figure
>>541193445It's easy to tell when someone has nothing going on inside their head, because they throw spastic tantrums like this instead of engaging with the topic.
>>541193480>how'd you measure that?We can directly observe written educational and arithmetic material from across history. Humans write shit down, retard.
>>541193480>accessibility of food I'd wager, especially fats which make most of the brain go figureAccessibility of food frees people up from having to do hard labor 18 hours a day, which gives them more time to read and go to school. So yes, this tracks.
>>541193480>how'd you measure that?There are still dozens of stone age hunter gatherer societies in the world today, living in remote areas. There were more decades ago.>being disease resistant and strong was the primary evolutionary driver for 99% of historyI agree. The point the guy who you were responding to was making is that pattern recognition selects for pattern recognition, and that the betamale 'workhorse' of civilization has been selecting, either directly or indirectly, for their daughters' husbands intelligence since the dawn of civilization, and that there wasn't a selective pressure for beforehand because it was dominated by, as you say, strength, and the hypergamous mating choices of women prior to the advent of civilization.>accessibility of food I'd wager, especially fats which make most of the brain go figureThere may be some small truth to that on a micro level, but not on a macro level. When you look at the nutrition of stone age hunter gatherer societies; they are better off than sedentary grain farmers. If what you're saying were true, then the hunter-gatherers and the pastoralists would be the most intelligent, and generally speaking that's not true.
>>541192639>the father of the woman>(an incel)Your opinion on the matter can be safely ignored.
>>541193524>BLAH BLAH BLAH *BBC cum oozes from mouth*Kill yourself, faggot nigger.
>>541193887but enough about your fetish
>>541189700I recently met a Filipina girl who is a devout Catholic, and never did anything sexual, ever. It's practically the norm for most women there. It also helps that she is insanely cute as well. I actually spoken to and got to know a ton of East and Southeast Asian girls over the years, and it is a complete night and day difference.Western Women are a disaster. Just look to the East/Southeast.
>>541193410And you’re not entitled to an explanation, especially considering you are an annoying faggot. Modern education is bad for several reasons, none of which I will waste my time explaining to you. I appreciate the bumps though, it helps keep the thread alive.
>>541189700roastoid behavior has to be bullied until they're all fat because right now it's topsy turvy.
>>541194057LMAOOOOOOONO ONE TELL HIM
>>541194057Also, not the same, but I also know a Navajo girl who WAS sexual, but I talked her out of it, and encouraged her to not do it, to the point where she stopped entirely. She is conservative, but also mentally disabled a bit.
>>541193930>but enough about your fetish hehe incel>*anus prolapses*
>>541194113>I don't know I just want to talk shitk
>>541189700FOIDSLOP THREAD
>>541193887Why do you spend all day thinking and talking about pajeet poop and nigger cum?>>541194113>And you’re not entitled to an explanationI didn't say I was. It's totally fine if you just want to say empty emotional monologues on the internet, and never actually talk about anything. That's your prerogative.
>>541190010Silence
>>541190094I'll still fuck you, unless you're a guy then I'll still "fuck you."
>>541191215Hou about neither you fuckwit?
>>541194486You can only have one or the other not both and not neither. Pick one.
>>541194585>not bothWhy?
>>541190010>>541194272High pitchedSqueals like a girlDoesn't try to pitch her voice lower while insisting it's "her real voice" (note: abnormally deep voices in women are often the result of being on the pill or smoking, both of which suggest sucking cock)Has 'cute' mannerisms like pointing and wiggling her fingers while talking for emphasisLoves spongebob even though she's an adultNote: none of this actually means she's a virgin
>>541192639>lower IQ people ( but still functional, capable people with work ethic, your blue collar guy ) would force his daugthers to meet a blue collar guy (a peasant working the farm in older times )This is bullshit. It was only women from noble families that had arranged marriages, as it was a way to build wealth and power. Peasant women could freely choose their husbands because they themselves and their family had no value or wealth worth arranging a marriage for
>>541194265>you need to explain your position and not just state things >”no go fuck yourself”>I-I never said I was entitled to an explanation!Lmao
>>541189700>When did it become the norm for western women to have premarital sexMaybe it started with Elvis?>how do we reverse it?Send bitches back to the church?It seems like the fear of spending eternity drowning in a lake of lava and burning feces was the only thing that has kept them away from nigger dick.In simplest terms, the best policing is when someone believes they're always being watched, especially if the person watching is themselves. A guilt based society is the most advanced society we have. But women don't feel guilt naturally. The mentality must be forced upon them at all times. They must believe it to be true, or they will do the worst shit. Anything less is a downgrade and society will certainly only devolve from there, as there is no superior option.
>>541193581>stone age hunter-gatherer societies>written educational and arithmetic materialcertified A (fucking leaf) grade post >>541193808and my point is iq is overall a meme metric (as opposed to eg brain volume)a chad being a vicious and cunning hunter is more desirable to women despite his inability to solve 4chins captchaand this civilizational formal intelligence burst you speak of may as well be a product of the population burst (think of an ant colony), not a beta male power dream
>>541194795>you need to explain your position and not just state things If you expect anyone to believe you or think what you're saying has any serious value, yes. That was my argument.I don't mind that people say meaningless bullshit. I just think it's odd when they do it in a space intended for communication between people.If you want to blog your narrative prose, there are much better websites for that.
>>541194804>stone age hunter-gatherer societies>written educational and arithmetic materialYou really just don't know anything about human history, do you?
>>541189700They were always fucking chad Kek.
>>541193263nigga don't you know what they teach in school these days
>>5411897001967
>>541194746Women having some say is different to women being able to freely choose. Under the laws of...basically everywhere, a woman was the property of her father until she became the property of her husband. Women couldn't marry whoever they wanted, their father had to give the go-ahead. The exceptions were runaways, but that rarely worked because it often meant death or slavery or something else.>>541194804IQ isn't astronomy. It does correlate highly with pattern recognition, mental flexibility, and learning. It isn't a meme metric even if it also isn't perfect.>a chad being a vicious and cunning hunter is more desirable to women despite his inability to solve 4chins captchaYes, which is why human intelligence from the cognitive revolution until the dawn of civilization seems to have been more or less stagnant.>and this civilizational formal intelligence burst you speak of may as well be a product of the population burst (think of an ant colony), not a beta male power dreamThey're the same thing? Early agriculture (which is what made food surplus and thus civilization itself possible) was labor intensive, and required the cooperation of all the betamales in order to engage in mass timely planting/harvesting of crops, and in particular the irrigation ditches/dikes required to hydrate the crops. This required buy-in from the betamales, and that buy-in was monogamous mating structures whereby the father chose the mate of his daughters. Nobody here is saying that the only thing they were selecting for was intelligence, there were several things, but the fathers were, at the least indirectly, selecting for intelligence when choosing the husbands of their daughters.
>>541195100seems like it would be easy to give an example for such a damning accusation
>>541189988HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>541195265The only exposure these people have to what happens inside schools are the chopped up cherrypicked agitprop examples of anything that sells the myopic 'own the libs' narrative.None of these people will ever be curious in a serious way about what's actually happening, because they don't care. They will always accept whatever narrative comes easiest to their emotions.
>>541194486So what then? Who will take care of the children, the state? So we can be “equal” while women can’t run a society for shit and are compulsive liars, hypergamous, promiscuous, whiny and unable to do any real work despite wanting to be “part of” (just hang around and get paid “equally”) everything?>>541194655What do you think, communism? With DEI/Quotas in the politburo to keep it 50/50 while the state raises all the kids in boarding style indoctrination camps?
>>541195150>Yes, which is why human intelligence from the cognitive revolution until the dawn of civilization seems to have been more or less stagnant.so was human population. if you zoom out, of course.>They're the same thing?no, they are separate and (maybe) connected (in a non-causal way) phenomena. >1) population growth>2) beta male cooperation(?)>3) civilizational "intelligence" burstnone of which are directly dealing with >4) individual "intelligence" "growth"If you simply claim that 2 causes 4, I can easily quote you and claim that>There may be some small truth to that on a micro level, but not on a macro level.I'd imagine women were seen as useless eaters mostly, and given away to whoever takes them, in an early agricultural societies with no field cattle even more so.
>>541195701>What do you think, communism? With DEI/Quotas in the politburo to keep it 50/50 while the state raises all the kids in boarding style indoctrination camps?Ah, so made up propaganda boogeymen you were told to be afraid of. Checks out.
>>541195433Hey pal you got a source for this or is it just meaningless bullshit meant to show your narrative prose?
>>541190305Sounds like the Nordic model applied to all sexuality instead of just sex work. Look at what has happened to women's sexual behavior since the Nordic model was adopted to see what your proposal would do for everyone, not just whores.
>>541189988uhh its not 1 or 0 though dude. Just because we don't like women with blown out pussy doesn't mean we are brown. You're a little too jewish there buddy. A little less cuckoldry and jewry would be fine. and its still ok to hate browns.
>>541196338>Hey pal you got a source for this Zhu & Pechmann, 2024Pennycook & Rand, 2019Guess et al., 2020Plenty of comprehensive studies that show rightoids readily believe complete bullshit lolhttps://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/00222429241264997
My wife bought us promise rings and I promised myself to her before we had sex I was a virgin she wasn't Tightest pussy ever and she's actually fun to be around I love her so much
>>541196307The propaganda is for communism, not against it. Just anyone with a brain knows it doesn’t work as advertised. Anyway, explain how it’ll work when the sexes have different perspectives and desires.If you can manage to type more than a few words.
>>541189700It all started because men found their virgin "until death do us apart" wives boring, so to spice things up they opened the gates to degeneracy, the result is that those males now wank all day while the women jump on the cock of few males. It was like if the male part of society asked to the female part to open the relationship. The consequence its always one: cuckdom
>>541196795Noting>women can’t run a society for shit and are compulsive liars, hypergamous, promiscuous, whiny and unable to do any real work despite wanting to be “part of” (just hang around and get paid “equally”) everything?
>>541196498Hey, he even got himself some peer reviewed sources like a good goy! >rightoids readily believe complete bullshit lolAnd lefties don’t?
