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For people who are bilingual, do you feel like speaking or writing in English rewires your brain or your thoughts differently compared to your native language? Almost like it's too open ended of a language without much rules, especially in how it's spoken. There are so many different ways to say or describe something, so when you converse with someone else in English it feels like they don't truly comprehend 100 percent of the message you're conveying even though they hear or read your words. This probably has to do with them not speaking English with the same sentence style or form as you. When I speak think or read in my native language, it feels much more simple and straightforward on the mind, you don't even have to think hard about what's being read or said because there are very few ways to say or describe something in a sentence. You understand the point of the message instantly and there is less time spent in figuring out what it is you want to say since there much less variation of words. Am I crazy or does any else actually experience this?
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>>541200098
english is a very simple language and very easy to learn but its not as good as german, german is more precise and sounds better and you can structure your thoughts much more efficiently.
when I have to write or speak in english its like I turn parts of my brain off to converse in this full retard mostly brown people dominated language.
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>>541200098
Some languages are more expressive and nuanced than others and this is probably what you feel using English if you’re coming from a simpler language. I have the opposite experience as my native language is more expressive and nuanced than English.
English is still a good language because sits right in the sweet spot between easy enough to learn and expressive enough to use as international language and science.
What’s your native language, spanisch maybe?
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MAGA toss and Flamer toss should have sex
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>>541200098
German seems more efficient. You can make up new nouns on the go by combining two words into a new one. Somehow this isn’t accepted in English.
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>>541200098
I don't think you will find much difference among indo-germanic languages.
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>>541200871
Wrong, even Swiss German and German are structurally very different.
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>>541200245
English is German with added elegance and effeciency.

Example
>English: There is a speed limit on this highway.
>German: Es gibt eine Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzung auf dieser Autobahn.

German started with only like 500 words, and then to get to 5000 words, they dreamed up crazy compound words, like calling a turtle a "shield frog" and gloves "hand shoes."
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>>541200098
>Almost like it's too open ended of a language without much rules, especially in how it's spoken. There are so many different ways to say or describe something, so when you converse
kek, yes we have a lot of words and I'm sorry your native tongue only has 500 words total and so English is perplexing to you

>>541200245
and it's the krautflag kike for the fpwp
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>>541200098
4th panel
back of the computer
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>>541200245
In English there is so much different slangs being created, especially between now compared to the 90s when I arrived here, that it's hard for even an native older generation American to talk with a zoomer or gen alpha. In my language you have it has changed that much between the decades that even grandparents can talk to there grandkids with the same formalism they had grown up with. I'm not sure if Germany has the same issue.

>>541200634
Croatian
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>>541201151
>It hasn't changed*
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>>541201019
Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzung is more precise than speed limit. The German word implies a minimal speed and a maximal limit. Also Begrenzung implies more of a artificial judicial intent where as limit could also be physical like air resistance.
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>>541200098
I was born in Russia and never lived in english society, only consumed content on english, but i found that i think on english topics that i studied in english. So i guess the essence of thing you are thinking about ties with the word you first heard, like if you learned programming on some language, it will be easier to think about it on this language and if you learned how to speak in the shop on another language it will be easier to think on this other language. And if you talk about something in between two topics, you will, by default, mix up words from 2 languages.

I think the process of thinking operates not with words but with essential things behind these words, like percepted visual images, percepted sounds, analogies, etc.

But it might be harder to think if language does not have a word to describe mental image you've got from thinking. In this case, you'll need to somehow separate this mental image from all other thoughts, then describe it with many words, then shorten the description.
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>>541200098
I don’t even feel like native English speakers understand what they are saying, much less ESL understanding what someone else is saying.
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>>541201291
>i think on english on topics that i studied in english.
Fix
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>>541201239
Damn. That's precise.
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>>541201008
The difference depends against what you are comparing it. Even though some might be more precise in certain aspects, structurally they are all relatable.
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>>541201019
>German: Es gibt eine Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzung auf dieser Autobahn.
Utter nonsense as there is no speed limit on the Autobahn.
The English language may be better if you need to convey a lot of bullshit in a shorter time yes, but the German language is better when it comes to expressing complex ideas in more nuanced fashion.
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>>541200098
>without much rules
Return to Mexico. Stay in Mexico.

And to your post English speakers don't understand what you're saying because you're retarded and you have a thick accent.
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>>541201413
French and German are structurally more similar than Swiss German to German.
If I have to translate Swiss German to French I first have to translate it to Standard German in my head. I am native Swiss German.
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>>541200098
I heard that theory but never felt that way. It's the same to me. I can talk the same bullshit to bong people as I would be saying to Russian people. However I believe that speaking Ukrainian makes you retarded and that Zelensky is right about Ukrainian goyim.
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>>541200098
Yes. Spanish has more nuances and more variety in how things sound, if I'm musing on the beauty of a tree or any poetic or sentimental matter, I find it a better language than English.
For the same reason I like English more when I want a message to be straightforward. If I'm writing about a delicate matter (say, a problem with a client, a situation in which I'm trying to resolve a conflict, etc) I find it easier to do it in English, there is less second guessing possible.
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>>541200245
Russian is far superior to German. I don't dislike German, but the precision of Russian grammar is unmatched. The only thing I don't like is the familiar/formal forms of 'you,' but you have that shit, too. Russian is also easier to pronounce. Russian cursive should be banned, though.

Regardless, English should be the required planetary language. I'm not saying to restrict other languages. By all means, keep your cultures intact, but we need an absolute international language so we can all call each other niggers.
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>>541201584
>Utter nonsense as there is no speed limit on the Autobahn.
Fucking retard. How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast?
>The English language may be better if you need to convey a lot of bullshit in a shorter time yes.
Which makes it more efficient, unlike you claimed.
>expressing complex ideas in more nuanced fashion.
>Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzung
Do germans have a hard time grasping the concept of a speed limit? How much of a detailed description do you need? The word doesn't even convey any more information than the words "speed limit" do, it's literally just a longer, inefficient way of saying the same thing.
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>>541202629
German more efficient. If you want to describe Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzung in English precisely you would need a whole paragraph.
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>>541202629
>Do germans have a hard time grasping the concept of a speed limit?
To be fair, Germans aren't known for limiting themselves.
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>>541202812
Höchstgeschwindigkeit ist the correct translation.
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I suck at writing in English especially. lol

My first two languages I learned to write by 3.5-4 years old, alone btw with puzzles.

The rest I learned by 10 ish, including English.
Problem, again, self taught, as I ignored all the homework. lol

My plague in life, writing properly in any language. But I can communicate in about a dozen... so that's good.

Not autistic, but maybe retarded!
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>>541200098
Chair sus
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>>541202756
Agreed.

Does Musk know German? lol
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>>541201019
Lmao
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>>541200098
I speak English polish and Spanish

I think you're referring to idiomatic expressions??
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>>541200098
One thing I'm still curious about is if different systems of measurement actually influence one's mental image of dimensions.
>The height of the Mont Blanc mountain is 4,807 m
>The height of the Mont Blanc mountain is 15,771 ft

The Mont Blanc just "feels" like it's larger when measuring in feet.
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>>541202918
He knows enough Deutsche to order an eleven year old but he still has to pull out the translator app for the fuck off you cringe ass loser response
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>>541200098
he really doesn't ever miss
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>>541202584
Omg lol and another thing i heard that is funny the word for vodka in russian is 'spiked water'
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>>541200804
>You can make up new nouns on the go by combining two words into a new one. Somehow this isn’t accepted in English.
Zogbot
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>>541203075
Goyslop
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>>541202629
>Fucking retard. How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast?
You are obviously much dumber than me because you didn’t get this simple joke.
>unlike you claimed.
I didn’t claim that the German language was more efficient. I said it’s more expressive and nuanced. Your reading comprehension seems to be lacking, likely because you come from a much less sophisticated native language than German.
>Do germans have a hard time grasping the concept of a speed limit?
No, but you seem to have a hard time understanding what we are talking about here. The level of detail a language is able to express does not just come from the length of the words it uses.
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>>541202584
"I am forgotten,"
-Esperanto
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>>541203066
>the word for vodka in russian is 'spiked water'
Vodka means "little water". "Vod" is water, the suffix "ka" is diminutive, means little.
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>>541201019
>like calling a turtle a "shield frog"
Wtf, it's kinda like that in danish as well... never thought about that before.
Anyway, at least we (and the Germans) use our own words while the English just take a French word and mangle it.
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>>541201239
But none of that precision matters in the scope. If you need additional precision, you can just... add it. If you have a boner, in English you can just say
>my dick is hard
You don't need more precision than that. You don't need the language to implicitly encode something like
>my groin-finger has grown from 1cm flaccid to 2cm by virtue of its engorgement with blood
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>>541203066
>>541203331
As I recall, I came across this in Czech Republic. I was intrigued.
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>>541200098
Then why is the left so upset at AI?
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>>541200098
Holy fuck Stonetoss is unfunny. Just complete garbage. No wonder he’s a white nationalist who isn’t white
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>>541200245
>german is more precise and sounds better
>sounds better
So Germans do have a sense of humour. The only language that sounds worse than German is Arabic.
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>>541203759
>The only language that sounds worse than German is Arabic.
Lol what nonsense. This is a million times better than most other languages like chinse, polish, or french:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV5BfVyUKy4
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>>541203969
Chinese is actually a very pretty language both spoken and written, but I have no desire to learn it. I'm not an artist and the tones are a hurdle I have no intention of trying to clear.

>>541203759
They have their moments.
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>>541200098
english is a very imperial language and lacks humility. in english you go "hunt" for "game" while in finnish you "ask" the forest for bounty. everyday use of english gradually transforms peoples values.
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>>541204135
>Chinese is actually a very pretty language both spoken and written
Spoken chinese sounds as if someone is spitting the words instead of speaking them. And written chinese is pretty primitive actually. They have very few words and it reads completely robotic and limited. They also simplified the characters at some point to get their literacy up and it looks like shit since.
Written Taiwanese or Japanese looks better.
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>>541203465
It's better to have precise words instead of unprecise words, or even needing to use a whole sentence to explain what you mean.

For example having ONE word for 'the day before yesterday', and ONE word for 'the day after tomorrow', and ONE word for 'the year before last year'.

And 'grandfather' and 'grandmother' are not precise enough, as well as 'aunt' and 'uncle' can be several different persons - even blood-related.
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>>541201132
you must be a polyglot
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>>541200098
>For people who are bilingual, do you feel like speaking or writing in English rewires your brain or your thoughts differently compared to your native language?
Yes it does.
People cannot be truly "bilingual" they forget their native language or will never get the same level for the other languages. No matter how young they are when they learn or how long it takes.

A language is the expression of a culture, a way to life, even of the geographical place where the language was created and tailored to.

English is the linga franca now but it's not "english" it is international business corporate american english based language. It is very limited and cannot convey nuances.
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>>541200098
Actually funny Stonetoss
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>>541200098
I think you just might not be as proficient in other languages.
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>>541203465
>My dick is hard
>Habn Ständer
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>>541200804
What about portmanteaus?
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>>541200245
>sounds better

Lol. Lmao. ROFL even!
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>>541200098
>you don't even have to think hard about what's being read or said
I don't do that when reading/writing English. What little I know comes naturally to me, the rest I don't understand enough to even think about.
My vocabulary being less than 20% of a native speaker's vocabulary probably makes me sound retarded though
>there is less time spent in figuring out what it is you want to say since there much less variation of words
For me this describes the English language rather than my native language. In English the order of your words is much more important than in Finnish so I struggle with the grammar. In Finnish I can just string them in literally any order I feel like and conjugating the correct words makes the sentence perfectly clear to the reader/listener
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>>541200098
English is the lingua franca for smart people.
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>>541204394
> English is the linga franca now but it's not "english" it is international business corporate american english based language. It is very limited and cannot convey nuances.
Partly true. There are two competing versions of English: the version you describe, and the new ”English” produced by illiterate college kids. The latter spreads like wildfire on social media and streaming platforms.
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>>541205263
>the new ”English” produced by illiterate college kids
I don't even understand that one kek, it's just sounds like nigger speak to me
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I read an article about this. When you think of something in a timeframe like 6pm vs 7pm we have a way of viewing the past in a left to right fashion. Before and after. I forget what country but their time is written up and down so they would think of it like that. There was another African language that had no left or right, they used north, west, etc. so they naturally always knew which direction they were pointed at.

Learning a new language has to have major changes on how you think.
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>>541200245
>proceeds to use 120-character words
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>>541200245
truth nuke!
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>>541201008
>Swiss
>German

zame?
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>>541203066
serbian is easier
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>>541200098
Yes i do speak 5 languages, well technically understand and can read 5, but speak 3 fluently, and yes i feel the same thing,

Also Imagine how big of a moron you need to be to not see AI potential.
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>>541203572
>Vod-ka
Vodovod a Kanalizacia (water & sewage comp)
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>>541201008
Shut the fuck up you jeet.
It's not too different from the alemanic they still speak here.
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>>541203969
polish is beautiful language, it is difficult only to nazi germans
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>>541200098
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>>541200245
Compare English and German poetry.
Actually, compare anyone's poetry to German.
Ackhtually, just neck yourself.
Some things you don't joke about:
– Hirohi-Nazi casualties against the civilized peoples of the world
– Germans looking good (before Anglorussian admixture)
– G*rman culture and language being anything to brag about



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