BEGUN, THE MAPLE WAR HAS!!!
>>541201207Shitjeets on suicide watch
>>541201207I bet it was over dairy. Carney can't touch dairy. The mob will literally kill him. I'm not joking it's literal Italian mobsters.
>>541201207WE NEED TO NUKE CANADA OR INVADE IT RIGHT NOW
>>541201207Great. I lose how trump makes all the other countries seethe
>>541201350The territory is a valuable security asset. The Canadians will make good prostitutes and slave laborers for our occupation forces.
>>541201207
>21 AUG 26I've seen this before
>>541201207>liquorI don’t even buy leaf liquor now, so they’re planning on making it more expensive anyway?sucks for them
>>541201207Why does he lose at everything
>>541201207With its national debt surging hard above 1 trillion dollars and climbing, Kanakistan is officially a failed country now, and it's all over but the cryin'.>this is what success looks like
Here's a general to discuss Trade Wars including this one:>>541200702
>>541201487He's winning though, it's you that's losing.
>>541201207It is all stunning and brave but why? Canada should've taken the deal when she had the chance. The things and next deals will be only worse for Canada from now on. Betting on Democrats getting back and letting Canada to keep fucking the USA over is a stupid move. Democrats are gay but they aren't stupid.
Why are we even still trading with them. They can go trade with their pals in North Korea and Israel
>>541201207Not the hockey gear. It’s fucking on!
>>541201623Because our economy falls apart if we don't trade with them. It's not an option.
>>541201401He is hard that bad
drumpf is pissed that he's splitting his jeet gods with canucks.they don't wanna admit it in the open that they're unironically fighting over the right to import subhuman street shitters.
>>541201207They have allowed you summer vacation to spend money in time for Q2 to cook the books. Do you really think Q3 & Q4 will be any different?
Is there an actual list of the specific items that will be tariffed?
>>541201718Just**
>>541201326Dutch bastard mafia
>>541201676You said this 1.5 years ago No one cares broThe new round of tarrifs that will totally collapse Canada in just 2 more weeks
>>541201326>The diary cartelI'm so tired of hearing this argument over and over again, in Quebec, 80% of farms are family owned and have less than 150 cows. Can we talk about Irving and suncor owning this federal joke of a government along with the jewish mafia?>Muh Québec We produce 40% of the Canadian milk. I honestly wished Carney would sold us out so it gives ammunition to pspp and the upcoming referendum but he might have realized that as well.
>>541201744Another shitjeet coverin up Harris allowig 25 million shitjeet
>>541201207It's okay, I didn't want to build a deck this year anyway.
>>541201207Annexation soon. Stock up on lube leafs.
>>541201812ya don't worry jeet defender vance is gonna shut it down for sure
>>541201207Enjoy having no military
>>541201801We haven't stopped trading with America. It is simply at a reduced level. Yeah we could shut off trade and turn into Argentina but why the fuck would we do that?
>>541201592No one likes a bully - that's why Russia is getting it's already tattered and blown out asshole kicked in currently, though I don't expect you to acknowledge that.
>>541201801>shitanada imports shitjeets to offset wages
>Americans in the thread just replying to each other about shit and poopJesas
>>541201761Canada is still commonwealth and Carney is old school bank of england who also has the royal family and climate agenda cultists on payroll. They are in a stronger position overall.
>>541201207Mutually assured total annihilation is back on the menu boys
>>541201802It's not the farms, it's the processing.
>>541201881>Argentina Anyways there's a reason that these fags keep coming back, no one cares, no panic.
This disproportionately rapes northern communities from BC to SASK but nobodu cares about whites in the boonies
>>541201932>northern communities>whitesCome on man it's all Natives up there. But yeah it fucks shit up.
>>541201841Still claiming electing harris the shitjet is like Vances wife ? What were you harris jewish husband's cock sleeve?
>>541201326>>541201799>>541201802You guys are misunderstanding him. He literally means that Canada's DAIRY PROCESSING INDUSTRY is owned by the Bonnano Clan of NY city in collusion with the Risutto family of Montreal. This is proven. Even the CBC proclaimed it.https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-dairy-mogul-lino-saputo-had-secret-past-dealings-with-u-s-mobster-joe-bonanno-then-lied-about-it-1.5428629
>>541201207It’s time
And this will affect me ZERO percent. Just like all the other "global events" that happen. Its all theatre for the goyims
Seriously I can't even understand them what the fuck.
>>541201964pull your head out of your ass anon it's not all chugs
>>541201918Nah Trump will come back with some other deals. the Fart of the Deal again...he likes to freak out his opponents, knock them off balance. You'll see. It's the same stupid shit as the Persian Gulf.
I hope Trump makes them 100% Tariffs on Monday.Fuck all of he elbows up boomers in their “million canadacuck dollar properties”Carneys bank plan is just to print more cash to ride out Trump. But Trump can kill the private sector with 100% tariff across the board.Death to all Liberals. Hang Trudeau for TreasonTotal Boomer DeathTotal Banker DeathTotal Kike Death
>>541202037It's pretty fucking close in Sask. Less so in Berta no clue what the fuck goes on in Northern BC.
>>541201921>It's not the farms, it's the processing.Supply control has been a target of American policy for so long. Reddit, most social media, and even 4chan are pushing for its end, calling it the dairy cartel. This has nothing to do with the processing or transformation of milk.
>>541202106Um anon I think you might be retarded.
>>541201917Canada is not Commonwealth, as the British Crown dropped all claim to North America in 1931 Statute of Westminster. Canada in fact hasn't legally existed since then. All of these people are defrauding us in a multigenerational capital crime and MUST HANG BY THE NECK UNTIL DEAD.
>>541202106We should end supply management.Let the Jeets buy the Jew.S.A. Crap.The competition will lower food prices. Just buy the good stuff and let the shittigrants eat the poison.
>>541202100>no clue what the fuck goes on in Northern BC.Run to Dawson
>>541201801You're a fucking retarded
>>541202160Ok Tommy Horton worker
>>541201986>Italians are mafiaYes, and jews scheme and water is wet. Angloid forced the cultural enrichment to us and everyone else. Saputo is now a big globo player, it outgrew pitty crimes
>>541202182Yep. These idiots think the first round was meant to hurt us.It was meant to trigger an election.This round will kill the private sector.Strongly worded Trump Truth will be what ends CUSMA and the boomers are begging for it.
>>541201207Good. Sink this shit hole.
>>541202196Hey Nigger, If we get jew.s.a milk at 3 bucks. Enough niggers like yourself will buy it forcing the higher priced items to respond.We literally all win. Except the healthcare bloat from all the sick niggers. But MAID helps those rising costs.
>>541202247I don't even know if this hurts Carney. He seems to be politically untouchable because of the braindead boomers who voted him in in the first place
>>541201207We should sell all out oil to China instead if you ask meUSA is evil and Jewish
>>541202291If Lutnick was involved it might not even be Carney's fault this time. He's a BIS piece of shit but Lutnick is as bad or worse than those dirtbags.
>>541202275>milk is in a bag
>>541202312I don't even blame Carney for this falling apart. Current line is that there were last minute changes by the American delegation which were deemed to be "unacceptable" by our own. I hope we cut off crude and potash. I don't care any more.
>>541202379Apparently American DHS agents are interrogating American citizens over negative posts made about Ben G'vir. I don't think America is America anymore. It's literally 100% ZOG. I mean we have our jew problems what with Wiseman etc but nothing like that.
>>541201207ARMJOINTS EXTENDED
>>541202291 Don't give a shit about politicians, they'll slime up their own dollarydoos out of jewish cum. Get a big enough economic catastrophe and the poo flood will slow, maybe piss off and wake up a few more shekel addict leafs. Wishful thinking, I know.
>>541201350You don't know how true this statement is.Godspeed.
>>541202418ASSES UP
>>541202182And you're not white nor from Québec so your opinion is null and invalid as far as this nation goes and its dairy industry.
>>541202375>And maple syrup in a canAmen
>>541201802>what is supply management dumb quebecker needs his own extortion game explained to him for some reason.
>>541201801Haven't you noticed all the foreign nationals - NOT EVEN CANADIAN CITIZENS - just walking into the place and owning everything?Canada is already well collapsed. You're like the only retard deluding himself.
>>541202418>>541202454GET THOSE FUCK ELBOWS UP
>>541201207Remember when retards called tariffs a tax on their own citizens?I don't see that claim any more.
>>541202485I only tap 11 trees
>>541201207Far Cry Blood Dragon politics were never on my bingo card
Blah blah blah, this is all according to plan. Look into who Mark Carney is. Where his business is located. Where his family lives. He was 100% installed into Canada as the PM, with genius political moves. Gotta give it to them, they are smart. They played on Canada's Anti-Trump narrative that had been fostered through our national media for years before hand.Then they had Trump talk about the 51st state, and it was over. Maple Syrup, Tim Hortons, etc etc the boom booms went on to vote for a Liberal who had never held office in this country, ruined the UK as Bank of England and hung out leisurely and in the same circles as Epstein and Maxwell.I have no allegiance to this country whatsoever. I have allegiance to the (mostly white, but some immigrants) people of this country, but I spit on how it is now, and all new immigrants who should be classified as invaders.Tick tock. White peoples (females discluded) patience isn't forever.
>>541202100Northern BC is owned entirely by two tribes you've never heard of - Wet'suwet'en and Gitsxan - since a settlement in the 90's.
We Will Win.
>>541202686They both make more money by taxing all the poor
>>541202744I think most of the country heard of the Wet'suwet'en over the fucking pipeline protests
>>541201207deport all jeets to canada
>>541202797Is it inherently possible for Americans to not wish genocide on white canadians
>>541202797Thanks brother, but I think we're already there. I hope in the upcoming Pan-American conflict that solidarity can be found around ethnic lines. The ethnics who come to our countries have no love or ambition for it to succeed or prosper as it had before they were installed.
>>541202797>he doesn't knowAll of your attacks end in the same way. Indians, seeking greater wealth and prominence, escaping to your more wealthy and prominent nation.
This was all so unnecessary, but Trump decided the deal that he made the first time was grossly unfair all so that he doesn't have to admit he raped kids.But that's what you voted for, so what can you do.
>>541202865>>541202877aw hell yeah
>>541202865>>541202877Also, after we win, CHUGS will need to integrate and fuck off their land claims and corruption which is what it really is. Bribing to get what they want. They can join civil society and I will be happy to take a good looking Squaw as my wife.
>>541202894hell naw
>>541201350>>541201838So what exactly would you do with Quebec. Quebec had a bunch of laws about language and religion that would be illegal in the US. It also has the bloc which would hilarious to see in the US congress.>>541202221Having Canada as a hat that would trade and do whatever was cool. They fucked up and good thing.>>541202865>>541202877Why fuck with the good relationship we had with Canada? It’s retarded like everything MIGA.
The real bullshit is everyone is going to blame Indians for the hard economic times we are all facing, but the real problem is white men sperging out instead of getting the deal done. You know why you're being replaced? Just look at this debacle you've put us ALL in.
It's really easy to put a rope around a fucker's neck and hang them.All it takes is stop being a fucking pussy and take control.Trust me - you'll figure it out.
>>541203033America needs you for AI work anon, you will be just fine.
>>541201401>I loseYes, you do. It's great to watch.
>>541201207Based
Elbows up
>>541203033Indians are civilization destroying shit.There's a good reason God forsook you during the Kurukshetra War, leftover.
>>541201917You are vastly overstating the value of the commonwealth.
>>541201207kikes are mad. canadians need to pay more.
>>541202742>>541202379>>541203033It would’ve been easier for Canada to somehow give Trump a few billion personally to fuck off in a series of payments. Just bribe him. Problem solved. “I’ll give you 100 CAD to fuck off” - Trailer Park Boys
>>541203162Is there any particular reason? What did Canada do to the US? It just seems so random and retarded.
CANADA the future looks brighthttps://www.bitchute.com/video/7tL5FgWrcJRW
>>541203198>random and retardedIt's just trump. He has to be causing trouble somewhere constantly. I doubt America will recover from this era.
>>541203198We're just a bulwark to them. Fodder to throw in the path of inevitability.Except we are also that inevitability, consequently.These people are STUPID.
>>541203287The US is over. Same with Canada but we were always going down with the sink American ship. Just didn't think our retarded ally would stab us directly in the back and kill us like a mother kills her newborn child
>>541201207From what I gather from the controversy is that when they stamp 'Made in Canada' on their products what it really means is 'Made in China.'
>>541203198lutnick changed the agreement they were working on at the last minute and we said fuck off.I'll be happy the day im comfy, watching webm's on pol about americans in a civil war because the climate fucks them an their farmland is consumed by soil erosion.meanwhile I'm enjoying croissants and cider.I helped make it so.
>>541203383Just take the transport hit and trade with us and Europe. America wants isolation. They don't understand that's a two way street.
>>541202988>Why fuck with the good relationship we had with Canada?Boomer Canadians hated the USA and would always announce how much better Canada was than the USA whenever possible. Meanwhile, we went from the most desirable country to the biggest shit pit in the world based on their actions. Unlimited immigration of third world countries, LGBTBBQAI2+ whatever. Being called the first 'Post National State' by our PM, who they re-elected.DESU, Canada got it good with trade agreements. But when Trump came in and said, not a good deal, the Boomers got mad and then they went all Tim Horton Nationalistic. 2X it happened!Canada has been and will be outplayed. But I'm telling you, it's not because of Canadians, who are stupid - NO DOUBT ABOOT IT, it's because it has been designed to happen this way.
>>541203486If only things were that simple.. *slowly fades to nonexistence*
>>541201207please just invade. we have lots of Italians. I will Luigi Mangione the fucks in Ottawa in minecraft myself if you do.
>>541201207Why do they have to draw this stupid clown shit out for YEARS? Just make it 100% tariffs on everything and come pick up the pieces after a fiscal year.
>>541203379>>541203383>>541203468Any reason Canada hasn’t considered bribing him with a series of payments totaling billions. Just bribe him. It’d be cheaper and he’d probably be more willing to actually honor some bullshit deal or drop it. MIGA has zero internal consistency and his base wouldn’t care>>541203503Yeah it took ages for the US to get Canada to agree to free trade and then Mexico was grafted into the deal. Arguably Mexico was a mistake. The idea was investing in Mexico would reduce immigration to the US and offer an alternative to the drug economy.
>>541203575the PM is a faggot who has American businesses. He benefits from this.
>>541203538>*slowly fades to nonexistence*I'd rather get a THANOS (or MAID) as we call it here on some days, lol. I really feel for the Boomers who never bought into TV propaganda, because they literally dies and had saw friends die for this country. And now it's just a complete joke.The Boomers who cheer it on are who they are, NPCs. Goyim.
>>541201969>noooo my jeet overlord is ok cuz they pretend to be in the party that i likegood goy
>>541203538Eu has 452m consumers. UK adds 70m more. The United states of shit has only 342m consumers.
>>541201207I'm most interested in what's going to happen with our potash. Trump exempted tariffs on very few things, mainly potash exports. Dollar for dollar tariffs mean US farmers could be paying a lot more for fertilizer soon with export tariffs.Here's a rundown>70% of global potash production is done in Saskatchewan, Russia and Belarus >US sources 90% of it's potash fertilizer via Nutrien in Saskatchewan, Canada>without this fertilizer, crop yields collapse and become more susceptible to drought and disease>fertilizer is the most costly part of crop farmingBetween rail systems, fertilizer and cheap feed (canola/wheat), food prices are about to explode in the US and small-mid size farms are all going to get bankrupted.
>>541203608Certainly not a conflict of interest. Somebody else, elbows up length must be managing those assets on his behalf.
>>541203681Canada is literally dead without US exports, what are people going to eat, shit imported from China? or Mexico?
>>541203681If Canadians had balls they would just ban potash sales to USA until trump backs down with his tarrifs bullshit completely. Farmers are some of trumps biggest supporters. Wouldn't take long.
>>541203681This would be the trade nuke we have to use in our back pocket, but Carnet doesn't have the nuts to use it.
>>541203486Your products are SHIT and you're already eating bugs without disclosure.
>>541203737long ago, we could have cut the power to New York but these faggot politicians have no balls and get bent over. Oh, and send money to Ukraine.
>>541203734EU and UK export food you know. Quality, regulated food. Come home white man.....
>>541203754You think American products are better than EU/UK?You must be a jeet.
>>541203667Yeah but unless the EU wants to back us up militarily it's pretty much over for Canada. The day of the rake is nigh.. I'll be off grid in a foxhole somewhere in the next few years probably.. or maybe nothing happens. Catch me if you can Amerimutts I'll be making improvised explosives and blow up our heavily intertwined cross border grid system haha just kidding, it's just a joke FBI calm down
>>541203575Canadians are supposed to WAKE THE FUCK UP, that's why.So this will continue for awhile.
>>541203740>>541203776>>541203681Please do. Hit MIGA where it hurts. It would also make gasoline and food better without all that corn derived bullshit.
can someone explain to our politicians that relying on fentanyl exporting chinks instead of america is a bad idea?
>>541203776>Oh, and send money to Ukraine.Wouldn't be necessary if America upheld the commitments it made in the Budapest memorandum. As usual, it's America (trump) that's fucking everyone else. They cannot be trusted.
>>541203819I'm cheering for Trump cause our government is fucking worthless. Invade. Tons of people want it to happen.
>>541203819Our bitch leaders won't do shit.
>>541203681Western Secession now. The power Ottawa has is on the backs of the Western provinces. Atlantic Canada are useless welfare EI faggots. Laurentian Elites are the same as the Epstein Elites in the USA. Look into Bronfman, Seagrams and Clare Bronfman and NVIVM sex trafficking operation.Why is Mark Carney and his wife in photos with Epstein and Maxwell??FUCK OFF CSIS.
>>541203847>I'm cheering for TrumpA turkey voting for Christmas. How entertaining.
>>541203681Reminder Saskatchewan has the same separation proceedings in the works as Alberta.
>>541203796Your products are fucking SHIT, nige.Yes, American products blow your products out of the water.>>541203779YOUR FOOD IS CONTAMINATED WITH BUGS.Keep it.
>>541203847Invading Canada is familicide. It’s wrong to kill people who act like you, look like you, talk like you. Border states have more in common with each other than with DC or the South.
>>541203734We sell stuff at bargain bin prices that the US just repackages, refines and resells. I'm in Saskatchewan and surrounded by 40 million acres of crops and 20 million acres of pasture. This province alone could feed 5x the population of Canada.
>>541203737>if Canadians had balls they'd [shoot themselves in the face by demolishing the agricultural sector that actually feeds them]Go get raped by pakis, nige.
>>541203955Post disgusting brown hand.
>>541204026Cope MOAR, paki rape meat.
>>541204015>Go get raped by pakis, nige.Go get shat on by jeets Gord.
>>541203825It is much more surface level than even that. You are being extorted by government mobsters for half of your money while the monopolies price gouge you by creating artificial scarcity because they also own the production facilities which in a free market would allow for competitive pricing. When you have no more money will utilize forced labour until you are dead.
>>541204044Jeet confirmed.
>>541201207Can't say I don't understand where they're comming from on this.But they're barking up an awfully big rake, aren't they?
>>541204063I extract rent and tax from poos, pakis and niggers squating in my country. It's really easy to just take from the corrupted.But nige? He admits he gets raped by pakis daily.
>>541204096Trump is a bullshitter. He folds under real pressure as can be seen with Iran.
>>541203973anon, the liberal government has brought in mass jeets. I wouldnt be killing Canadians at all.
>>541204148>I extract rent and tax from poos, pakis and niggersNo you don't.
>>541203980alberta/saskatchewan should separate, ontario/bc/quebec ruin things for everyone.
>>541204190>>541204076Nige, you need to stop projecting.You're the laughingstock of the Western world.
Hello Canadians, I heard that you guys are selling ressources. Can we buy some?
>>541204150I didn't mean to imply Trump was the big rake.It's just that Canada shares a huge land border with a country filled with "Good Old Boys".And a lot of those wear that red hat. Even now.
>>541204371That's not a reason to back down.
>>541203980Dude, our 'crops' are nearly 90% canola.
>>541204395Look at the tough talking MI6 paki rape meat, here!
>>541204404Lumber is a crop.
>>541204439Denmark stood their ground on Greenland. If you want to be a weak faggot that cowers in front of a clown bullying you then go ahead. The rest of your countrymen won't. Faggot.
>>541204296Only if you heil hitler, nigger
>>541204446lumber is separate from agriculture. cannabis is a crop
>>541201207Electrical equipment and plywood are the only things I give a shit about on that list.Considering Boise has been price gouging on shitty glued together wood for like a decade,I'm glad they'll be exempt because the US imports very little lumber from Canada and this is likely just to allow them to raise prices even higher citing "tariffs".
>>541204529You just sound impotent as FUCK trying beg Canucks to do what you can't. And Denmark is irrelevant to the Greenland situation, regardless of their position.Fuck off and get raped by pakis, nige.
>>541201401>I loseCorrect.
>>541204655>Denmark is irrelevant to the Greenland situationThank you for further confirmation of your retardation. Please feel free to continue.. I shan't be responding to you further as you've proven you aren't worth my time. I shall continue laughing at your impotent drivel though.
>>541204721To be fair. It's not even us doing anything to screw with the mutts anymore.
>>541204721>bloviating paki rape meat glowniggerIf your time had any value, you wouldn't be what you are, here.You shall continue shilling and failing lol
>>541204203Separation is never happening. There is a better chance of all separatists being hanged for treason than there is of them actually succeeding in their goals - that is to say, the chance is very very low.Which I find unfortunate, I would leave to see you wannabe miggers swing.
this is what will happen. Canada bends over, and then sends 10 billion more to Ukraine.
>>541204815*love to seeSorry, I've had a few (Canadian) whiskeys.Oh, hey, that reminds me: Zogmerican alcohol won't be going back on the shelves.
>>541204815Good luck with your no popular support besides the jeets you rented. Rope is in your future.
>>541204529>>541204655>>541204721DESU it’s pretty funny to see the whole Greenland autonomy movement or one day separatism movement. They want to be totally independent but stay with Denmark because of money. I don’t think America needs Greenland. They already have bases there. It’s unprofitable to govern Greenland. Why would anybody want worthless land is beyond me.
>>541204874You are describing separatists though.
>>541203740Nobody has any balls anymore. Russia could nuke Ukraine, U.S. could take over Canada's population centers in a weekend, China could invade Taiwan, but all they do is run their fucking mouths.
>>541204904>Why would anybody want worthless landPrestige.And because some of Trump's friends are trying to build stuff up there with tax payer money
>>541203847>Invade. Tons of people want it to happenJeets aren't people, and a handful of zionist boomers who want to send Canadians to die for Israel don't qualify as "tons"
>>541202084Imagine being so deluded you support Zognald but think you are against kikes. Hilarious.
>>541205024No but see, he's actually playing 16D chess, he's only PRETENDING to do Israel's bidding! H-He's going to announce TKD any day now!
>>541205024Imagine there are Canadians doing so...... Never a more dismal sight has been witnessed by man. Pathetic.
>>541205001>boomers and jeetsImagine being this disconnected. Quebec or Ontario?
>>541204956Reminder that Trump has: a Jewish daughter, a Jewish son in law, jewish grandkids, Jewish financiers, Jewish allies, and was friends with gigakike Mossad asset Epstein.
>>541205398That doesn't make me any less bored of current events.
>>541201802Fuck your precious faggot Jew PSPP, fuck your faggot jew demagogue Lévesque, fuck your faggot larp “nation”, fuck your faggot Jew nationalism movement that’s too pussy to admit its ethnocentrist at heart so you pander to all the browns at the last second for their votes singing kumbaya and pulling out civic nationalism gayer and larpier than Canadian multiculturalismIf Quebec separates the PQ is gonna mass import mamadous from Haiti and Ahmeds from MENA regions for your larp nation building projects, they’ll outbreed sorry faggot modern Quebequeers because quebequeers aren’t sneeding (1.36 birth rate, and either non de souche are having kids or if it is de souche it’s the inbred fridges out in the regions of St Poutine Dans Mon Truck de Fourre Ma Soeur)You lines are now:- crying about the death of your language (gay larp)- crying about the death of your “culture” (gay larp about some quiet revolution)- crying about immigrant browns (and voting for the option that’s guaranteed to mass import them to sustain the failing regions littered with old people cuz all the kids move to mourrial and Toronto anyway)
>>541206388While you do nothing.
>>541201467>be magatard>want cheap homes>leader keeps making it more expensive>Canadian wood satisfies roughly 24% of the entire US domestic demand for softwood lumber, which is heavily relied upon by American homebuilders for structural framing
>>541201883>No one likes a bully - that's why Russia is getting it's already tattered and blown out asshole kicked in currently, though I don't expect you to acknowledge that.You mean like Canada throwing a tantrum because the United States dared demand reciprocal tariffs, balanced trade, and Canada pull its own weigh in matters of defense? May want to rethink who the bully is eh!
