>the US is out of missles! They used them all up!Legit, how long does it take to make missles?
No fighting in school
>>541241551You don't actually make missiles, you buy them. For some fuckin reason you lost the ability to manufacture shit over 45 years. Now you're consumers.
>>541241551Actually depends on country that produces themUS have overbearing regulations, NDAs, expensive labor expensive everything so its longest process out of probably all countries
>>541241551IF you grant power to the talking boomer they say "maybe all of the US bases are blown up"...AS IF the poorest of poor 3rd world nations cant get access to satellite pics to check it out themselves.
We didnt run out of missiles tranny. Trump is just giving them one final chance at diplomacy before he unleashes hell.
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>>541241785final chance of what? Iran is about to invade Iraq. No amount of missiles can stop that. Iran has successfully killed a bunch of our guys and will kill more.
>>541241964>No amount of missiles can stop that.I 100% beg to differI think 1 BILLION missles would stop it
>>541241551The complexity and cost of missiles varies wildly now. >hahhahahha we ran the US out of missilesWay to go faggots. You ran America out of the missiles that don't veer off course for no reason and hit a school. You ran the military out of money to afford the expensive missiles. Guess what happens now? Either America withdraws because they are not willing to accept the level of collateral damage the cheap missiles will cause, or they are going to start indiscriminately killing everyone in Iran with cheap missiles. You are basically betting the life of your civilians on MIGAkike Trump magically learning restraint. Have fun with that.
>>541241785This! So much this! MIGA
>>541241551We didnt use them all up, a shit ton were given to Ukraine so they could waste them, another shit ton was given to Israel so they could put on Hannukah missile shows for the media.
>>541241551Interceptors, not all missiles.
>>541241551Not very long.You'd think that after propagandists tried literally this line of chattery even /pol/tards would have the brainpower to figure out that that which was not true for inferior industrial power Russia will be even less true for America.Everything to avoid facing the facts i guess, to keep hope that Iran is not fucked already regardless.
If you have missiles then why don't put ground troops in Iran?
Its pretty obvious that current system for anti missile defense needs to be updated because its unsustainable to use interceptor missiles for cheap 1 way disposable drones. Whoever perfects a cheap system to repel drones first wins.
>>541242254ThisHalf of the the stockpile was probably given to Zelensky so he could parade around as a strong independent leader.
>>541241551Depends how fast Chineses willing to deliver components for them
>>541241551>This is a weird looking curling iron
>>541241551>Legit, how long does it take to make missles?depends how much you pay for people to manufacture them and their components.Right now the problem is they want to hire low pay factory workers to work in a secured facility.But most factory workers have a criminal record that makes them a prohibited person federally.
>>541241664we build planes and missels you retard
>>541241551For actual economies like Russia and China have, they're churning out hundreds to thousands a month, depending on the missile.For fake jewish bullshit economies that can't produce anything except numbers on a spreadsheet, it's dozens per year.The state of western manufacturing is a fucking disaster but retards refuse to believe it. The west is run by delusional fucking idiots at every level, we're just coasting until something finally shatters the delusions they built around their fragile egos.
>>541242160>>541242414Aforementioned delusional retard cope
>>541241551It's only certain types of missiles, like the big THAAD missiles and the atacms, they're huge and complex, designed to shoot down nukes, not 200K Iranian ballistics without even warheads. The destroyers missile systems are the same deal, these defensive systems are for an armageddon type scenario, full fleet to fleet war, not shooting down hundreds of cheap crap from Iran.
>>541241551>the US is out of missles! They used them all up!>Legit, how long does it take to make missles?heres a quick run-down of the hand-me-down garage sale trash nato didnt want (that ukraine didnt want either) and some of their replacement times etc.depending on what (insert weapon) youre looking forthe replenishment time ranges from>a few years>>>>>>to essentially neverjust kinda depends!!! thats nato™ standard industry for you!lol when you planned for history to be 'over'kinda sucks when it.....isnt!
>>541241551The important thing isn't how long it takes to make the missiles. It's how much they cost, which is in the range of hundreds of thousands to tens of millions of dollars per missile, depending on the exact model.Every time a $500,000 munition explodes fruitlessly against an Iranian mountainside, thousands of (((shareholders))) rub their hands together in anticipation of their Raytheon stock going up.With all the money you give to the military-industrial complex in order to execute the orders of Israel, you could easily afford universal healthcare.
>>541244457lmaooooooooooooo>our missiles were for an imaginary scenario where they get vaporized by nuclear weapons before it even matters....not basic peer warfare with "muh thirdies"!!!LMAOOOOO nafo /k/ nigger cope is hilarious
>>541241551Just build new ones ffs!
>>541244542The US was using its navy to shoot down missiles on the way to Israel, I don't think that's what these ships were designed to do somehow. Even that failed as well when the early warning radars were destroyed.
>>541241785Oh i'm sorry, i didn't realize it was the case between the 25 other final chancesAt this point even russia did something lmao
>>541241551Give some rednecks some chemistry books and bunch of boxes of beer and a license to make whatever the fuck and it will be fixed within a few months.
>>541241664>For some fuckin reasonJEWS. It's jews.
>>541244705>I don't think that's what these ships were designed to do somehowits quite literally what they were designed to dofleet defense is what the ships were made forit turns out that israel was the carrier in this caseand anyway any scenario for intercepting nuclear missiles was using another nuclear missile to shoot it downat no point were conventional missiles ever intended to be used to intercept nukes. for literal decades "super-powers' strategy was always using nukes to shoot down nukes
>>541241551I asked Claude and he said thatthe problem with missiles is that they can be used much faster than being produced. He recommends a buit-in launch control that delays the launch until a new missile arrives in which case an RFID signal unlocks the launch.If this isn't true intelligence I don't know what else is.
The problem with Western weapons is that they’re obsessed with their own superiority and believe that quality beats quantity, which is complete nonsense. In reality, it doesn’t matter whether it’s a crudely made rocket from the 70s or a technological marvel with the most advanced chips and all that, it’ll still explode just the same.We literally have the example of Ukraine, which received the very best from all over the world but simply couldn't withstand the overwhelming onslaught of cheap rockets and drones.
>>541242308Yes, all missiles, because the difference between a missile and a dumb bomb we drop from a plane is the guidance package that the US cannot produce without the Rare Earths that China is refusing to sell to us. It's the same reason we can't make any new aircraft either. Their nav systems use the same materials.
>>541245046>We literally have the example of Ukraine, which received the very best from all over the world but simply couldn't withstand the overwhelming onslaught of cheap rockets and dronesmy favorite part was when the overpriced nato dogshit got obliterated the /k/ope was that it was all outdated junk they didnt want anyway that was cheaper to give to the dumb fucks in ukraine to die in it via explosive Russia decomissioning than it was to scrap it
>>541244022Planes aren’t even real, retard. They literally can’t stay in the air.
>>541245091>It's the same reason we can't make any new aircraft either. Their nav systems use the same materials.its pretty hilarious how much of (((the west))) runs off pure fantasy nigger delusion and how absolutely shit brain blendered the average American is who still believes we operate >"alien tech 50-100 years ahead of everyone else" like its still 1989 and higschool *errr* desert storm never ended and were always the champions of the "big game"
>>541241551>how long does it take to make misslesThe explosive material needed for the payload takes the longest to make.
>>541241551like 3-5 years
>>541244256When did it change? Was it during the 90s? The US must have been able to pump out munitions in massive numbers during vietnam.
>>541245120Tanks are completely useless in a modern war. Might as well go out on a fucking dirt bike...you might stand a better chance.
>>541245351>Might as well go out on a fucking dirt bike...you might stand a better chance.unironically too>"First one to die is a fag"
>>541241664>You don't actually make missiles, you buy them.The US literally makes every single component for 99.8% of their missiles in the US. WTF are you talking about?
>>541245351>Tanks are completely useless in a modern warThat's not the right conclusion and sounds like cope. "It's not that our tactics are total garbage, it's just that tanks are useless in modern warfare". Their role is still important, though not as prominent. Russians and Ukrainians have come to realize this because they have no choice, but I'm really afraid that in the West, either nothing will change and tanks will stay the same as before or they'll actually be deemed useless which is also bad.What actually became useless were all the APCs and other lightly armored infantry vehicles.
>>541244850>anyway any scenario for intercepting nuclear missiles was using another nuclear missile to shoot it down>at no point were conventional missiles ever intended to be used to intercept nukes.>for literal decades "super-powers' strategy was always using nukes to shoot down nukesYou're talking about the silo's in alaska or something and there's literally only a handful of them to take out shit in space, they also use kinetic attacks not nukes, they can't be nuking leo like that ffs. the thaad system maybe not intended to take out the cold war style intercontinental mad missiles because nothing can in reality.
>>541245169This.https://youtu.be/ckwxVD3Y24s
It' largely a materials shortage. The chips in missiles are made from the same materials and on the same machines that every other one is. They don't keep a heap on hand, they are made to order. You are number 245 in the queue behind some AI data center.
>>541245351Taliban who put rocket pot on Toyota hilux were just ahead of the time.
>>541241795>develop a missile with lower range than WW2 barrel artilleryKEK
>>541241785>before he unleashes hell.Trump already declared he was stepping away from military action you retarded migger.
>>541245194The source of the problem is this.
>>541245588those subcomponents are only assembled in the US. their base components are imported, mostly from Europe.
>>541241795>>541246628>shoots you with one from a drone from 5 miles awaynothing personnel kids
>>541245091>the US cannot produce without the Rare Earths that China is refusing to sell to us.We used to have mines for all that stuff right here, but retarded MBAs shut them down because it was cheaper to get material from overseas. It never once entered their lead-damaged brain that other countries might have priorities besides making an imaginary line go up and would refuse to sell them.
>>541245588No, they assemble them. The bulk of the electronic components are not made in the US.
>>541245588> approved for public releaseHow I know it's but disinformation.
>>541246486Who learned it from Al Qaeda who learned it from the CIA
>>541245259Yes, WTO was basically the tipping point.
>>541241551The actual manufacturing doesn't take very long at all. It's all the meetings that have to take place before then that kill the process. When they say it'll take a year or a decade or whatever to replenish stockpiles what they actually mean is "we're going to talk this to death until everyone gets a piece of the pie then take a month or two to actually build them."
>>541241551To make over-engineered over-priced slush fund missiles it takes time.And before you criticise let me just ask that you think of all those miltech investors and their livelihoods!
>>541245588Probably the reason why it's so slow and costs x10 of what it should. Also, not true, every critical mineral comes from China.
>>541241551Maybe we try to buy some from Russia?
>>541241551when you have a dei mandate to get negroes to make them
80 years ago, Germany produced 450 of these bad boys alone every month, and 1500 BF109 figher planes a monthCurrent day the US produces 300 anti-armor missiles and 50 anti air missiles monthlow tech mass production beats expensive and slow high tech
>>541246836Yes, that's quite the air superiority we have over Iran, dumbass. Or did you mean you were going to shoot at innocent civilians like a complete chickenshit Jew?
>>541241551We have some nukesThose are missilesJust make Iran a parking lot and let this be over
>>541245588all this to shoot down a $20,000 droneholy (((corruption)))
>>541247605>Just make Iran a parking lot and let this be over>>541247605>Just make Iran a parking lot and let this be oversorry they're going to take a lawn mower engine and use it to blow up your billions of dollar equipment
>>541241551>just privatize your defense industry and let the stockholder board take over bro
>>541246743No, they're not, they're literally made in the US.>>541246906See above.
>>541247604look at this assblasted faggot right here kekstay mad nigger.
>>541245588HAHAHAHAHBro, this chart is missing a warehouse on the southern U.S. border in which parts are made by MEXICAN CITIZENS without green cards, who cross the border every day to work there and then go back home in Mex. >made in the USBy whom? Mexican citizens, or perhaps prison labor?
>>541247607They don't use THAAD Talon interceptors to shoot down drones, retard. They use APKWS, Stinger, Hellfire, Coyote block II, or 30mm. Also, have any actual proof that those drones cost $20k? Or are you just pulling that cope out of your dirty brown asshole?
>>541241551It takes 2-3 years to produce a few dozen. Also, the U.S. is not out of missiles, it's out long range precision missiles. We still have a lot of dumb bombs we could just lob in the general direction of Iran. We also have shorter range precision weapons, but we have to get up close to use them and that puts troops in danger. Basically we can still have a war, but we can't have on expecting there to be few casualties. Imagine a ship for instance having to get close so fighter jets can attack Iran. Do you think Iran is just going to let that huge target stay there? They are going to fucking hit it if it's being used to kill them.Another thing is the nuke question. Yes, the U.S. has nukes, but Trump has tried using them twice already and thankfully we have Generals who told him to fuck off. We really can't use nukes unless we are under domestic attack by Iran.
>>541247690>just let Jewish NGOs and Jewish university clubs run entire contracts on your military bases>what could go wrong?
>>541241551Materials are squeezed. Labor is union or functionally and mentally retarded (south-y "right to work" state cattle) and who in their right mind wants to be a wage cattle when people who literally do nothing all day, MBA and IT scammers, get better pay? The US needs to crush the fake valuations and speculation, but it can't.
>>541247607that's how you lost iraq as well. they put a taliban flag on a battered toyota pickup truck and parked it in the desert and watched 1M$ rain from the skyit's financially unsustainable in the long term
>>541241551It's not that easy to manufacture a missile that can accurately and reliably hit a ballistic missile going at 5-10 times the speed of sound.
>>541247756This is also a good thread to post that, right now at this very moment, Northop Grumman and Lockheed-Martin are using a JEET FARM to recruit for these defense contractors. Yes, a Jeet farm - in which Jeets who don't even speak intelligible English get your resume from job sites and cold-call you to be hired for positions related to national defense. So these corporations that lobby to send Americans to die are hiring foreign labor, which shuts Americans out of the job market (ostensibly so that they'll have no options but to join the military and die for Israel)
>>541245588Pure migger delusion
>>541247756>Bro, this chart is missing a warehouse on the southern U.S. border in which parts are made by MEXICAN CITIZENS without green cards, who cross the border every day to work there and then go back home in Mex.Then you'd obviously have the name of this warehouse, no?Also:https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-02-16/A-third-of-top-defense-contractors-use-prison-labor-in-U-S-study-17Hqbx6MNMs/index.html>CTGNlol lmao even. Literal CCP SCIO State run propaganda outlet.
>>541247941You all may have heard that we have lost quite a few expensive drones over Iran. Well, General Atomics, who makes much of those, is hiring!But guess what? They too use a Jeet farm for their recruiting! They really, really couldn't hire somebody who speaks intelligible English to find workers for them?! They really couldn't ask Sally in HR to work an hour overtime everyday to headhunt?
>>541247910If you're talking about interceptor missiles, it's been shown to be a wholly incapable of doing anything. It takes 10+ interceptors to take out one incoming missiles. It was always a dumb idea and if you watch the movie Snake Eyes the whole premise of the movie is the military promising their interceptor missiles are more effective than they actually are so key people can profit off the weapons. Now Trump's dumbass wants to build a "golden dome" that will exceed 1 trillion dollars to build with those failed weapons. It's all a fucking joke.
>>541247943>Verifiable facts are delusionTake your meds>>541247941Yeah, sure, Dong Tu Smol. May I see some actual proof?
>>541247876anons take note of who im replying too, may he be a lesson to you: that anon supports labor unions yet he doesn't work, he is not a laborer and mock those who do worka yankee bum, what's new
>>541245046> MUH TECNOLOGICAL MARVELRussian missile technology is decades afar from you dumb mutt.Your larping patriots himars were getting blown up in ballistic duels from the day one.
>>541248035Why should they? If the jets get uppity, you send them back to India. Easier to control. Plus your CIO is a jeet and so he has to send some work back to his village. Whites deserve to be wage cattle to be herded into multi billion dollar factories that our next to high cost of living areas. Their commute is 2 hours everyday? Sucks to be them. People wonder why shit is retarded, it isn't hard to figure out.
>>541245588America has the ability to make them, and the money to buy them, but can't. The military industrial complex is completely incapable of scaling production for some reason.
>>541247966>lol lmao even. Literal CCP SCIO State run propaganda outlet.Would you prefer the Government Accountability Office, then?
>>541248087I don't support labor unions. Anything a union can do for wage cucks, can be done by labor laws and protections. The only GOOD thing a union does is counterbalance the MBA Judaism that completely destroys a company since if your wage cattle get uppity, you can't ship anything out the door, period. They WILL attack scabs too, even in 2026.
>>541241551how long does it take to get the rare earth minerals needed to make missiles that china will no longer sell us?
>>541248225you'll get them when ukraine wins the war
>>541248222>The only GOOD thing a union does is counterbalance the MBA JudaismSenior union boomers have caught on to that mentality and are fucking over younger members just like the MBA's. The only real benefit of unions remains the job security, which is about where non-union jobs were 10 years ago.
>>541242376RIP Priggers
>>541248455Holy shit this was the funniest part about the Ukraine bungle. Blackrock Jews gambled away America's livelihood that we would be able to steal the minerals from the only part of Ukraine that Russia controls. So then like 2 years ago, Diddlin' Don was doing the same thing he's doing with Iran now, which was alternating days begging Russia for Ukraine's minerals and then cursing Russia for not surrendering.
>>541248155>America has the ability to make them, and the money to buy them, but can't.Then how have they been buying them for decades and producing enough to sell to allies?>>541248165Actually, yes. So, post the GAO report.>>541248225The US, Canada, and Australia are already producing them.
>>541241551For the major missiles (TLAM, PrSM, ATACMS etc) it has normally been an average of 2 to 3 per day per missile but Trump and Hegseth have majorly increased that over the past few months. They are probably cranking out 10 to 20 per day now. We also have an ace up our sleeve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzVD4vb5ZxU they can make hundreds of these per day.
>>541245588Sacramento, CA no longer has Aerojet Rocketdyne.
>>541248670it's even more embarrasing for us. That war started because the EU was out for those ukrainian minerals. the DPR (who controls the 2 provinces where the mines are located) 'rebelled' against joining the EU by voting for their independence, by EU law a country can not join if there is a 'rebellion' happening. So Ukraine got all the support in terrorizing the people there into submission, then Russia got involved and the US made a bargain for those minerals in return for the high tech weapons we could not providetotal clown show
>>541245588What fucking retard approved this for public release?
>>541242022>1 BILLION missles
>>541248974>WeWho's we? All this shit is for ZOG and israel lmao
>>541248830>month 6 of the 2-week regime change operation
>>541249483Show me on the doll where Israel hurt you
>>541248974>We also have an ace up our sleeveYou forgot Zone 5 Rusty Dagger, CoAspire's Rapidly Adaptable Affordable Cruise Missile (RAACM), L3Harris's Red and Green Wolf CMs, too.
>>541249791KEK says the kike that caught herpes from a rabbi during metzizah b'peh
>>541249264They moved production to Huntsville, Alabama and Camden, Arkansas.https://www.l3harris.com/newsroom/press-release/2024/06/aerojet-rocketdyne-delivers-1000th-thaad-solid-rocket-boost-motor>>541249438It's not like it's top secret info. You can find the DoD contracts, MIC media releases, etc with public info. It would just take you longer than looking at a pic.>>541249705The regime has been changed like 10 times. KEK. Even Iranians barely know who's in charge of them.
>>541249873Right there are several defense companies making new missiles these days to meet the needs of modern warfare but my money is on Anduril because I like video games.
>>541250129I don't care about it that much but I think its stupid
>>541241964I don't think Iran wants to invade Iraq and frankly doesn't have to. Iraq is an artificial country to start out with a Sikes-Picot colonial bullshit country. That is important because 65% of Iraq is Shia muslim and therefore leans towards (by and large) Iran. They don't need to invade it. They can influence it and they do.
>>541241551FIREissiles! WE NEED MORE...issiles!!
>>541248974>they are probablylmao the cope never stops
a thread about browns not understanding U.S. logistics isn't really politics
>>541250362Its not cope faggot its called know way of knowing because its top secret. You never want the enemy to know your capability especially during wartime.
>>541245091The thing is that there's plenty of "rare earths" right in N. America. Coal mine tailings are rich in rare earths. But nobody wants to build facilities to process it. Kinda stupid really.
>>541250223Rusty Dagger and CoAspire RAACM are already in production, and on order for like 3000/year contracts. And they've already been combat tested in Ukraine.>>541250256I'm not disagreeing with you. It's just the nature of the beast. I don't like that all of NASA's research is publicly available, either. Or that you can go to DTIC.mil and read thousands of research papers about any and everything involving defense. I mean, I like to read them, I just don't think our enemies should have access to them.
>>541250583You're supposedly Canadian, you should already know this.https://www.src.sk.ca/campaigns/rare-earth-processing-facilityhttps://investors.usare.com/news-releases/news-release-details/usa-rare-earth-achieves-major-operational-and-strategic
>>541250908https://mpmaterials.com/
>>541241664And here you were telling us how smart you Indians were."Engineers Saarr", etc.Yet you post stupid shit like this.
>>541241551to be honest, no we're not out of missiles. The Lincoln was out of missiles. The George Washington is fully loaded with missiles. You're welcome, OP
>>541241795it can be launched from a drone tho
>>541241551>how long does it take to make missles?Not long at all. Unless you want ones that work.
>>541241551theyre junk anyway that china doesnt wanna copy
>>541248045have you seen the movie "A House of Dynamite"? i thought it was pretty good.
Ngl boys, this would be good with some missle launchers and a fuckload of antidrone anti missle tech. >huge deck gun munitions are cheap as fuck >23 mile range >just non stop fucking barrage every single port > blow up everything 23 miles inland of their entire coast>missles just spam patriots at inside targets >put like 4-6 f-35s on the aft modified flight deck to include like 12 reapers 30 of these and you could fuck up any country
>>541250908>https://www.src.sk.ca/campaigns/rare-earth-processing-facilityI knew that but if you're a patriotic American you want American rare earths not shit from those fuckign Canadians rite?
The problem for the USA and Israel is this; it's cheaper, orders of magnitude cheaper to make attack missiles then it is to make defensive missiles. I don't think anybody has figured out how to shoot down hypersonic missiles. It's a mugs game; send up two missiles costing a million each to shoot down one missile costing fifty thousand to make. In a war of attrition guess who wins? The Iranians can just attack attack attack. The American Israeli team needs to defend. It's a losing proposition from the get go.
>>541241785American final warning
>>541251792A ship's a fool to fight a fort.
>>541252458That's the great thing about all these new cruise missiles they're making. They cost around 150k/ea to produce compared to 3 million per Tomahawk and they can make them 10 times as fast.
>>541241785This. We are no where near out of missiles. The reason the war stopped is because Trump genuinely doesn't want people to die. He will exhaust all other options before resorting to total death and destruction.
>>541241551Not long at all if you hire people to do it. But the American way of industry subsidies means you have to give 95% of the government money to the billionaire who bought the missile company, then he spends 3% of it buying parts, 1% bribing the girls he rapes, and the other 1% on labor to build missiles. So it takes a while. And they cost 20 gorrillion each.
>>541251792I wanted to add make them coal-steam>makes logistics difficult however it can be the same as having to get jp-5 and ship oil #2>this would be much more efficient at scale as new coal steam turbines have almost double efficiency>can have this turn DC motors>even more efficientBro this thing could theoretically be constant U/W for months
>>541252325>>541250997We got it, and I didn't post an exhaustive list, but it helps that our retard autistic hat makes them, too.
>>541241551what you niggas fail to understan is that missiles is very high tech and complicated work not just anyone can do it you need highly trained native born workers
>>541252458>shoot down one missile costing fifty thousand to make.Iranian MRBMs are closer to $10-20 million to produce. You're a complete fucking idiot if you think you're building a modern MRBM for $50k.
In America>yeah so it's got FLIR, x-ray, it's got bluetooth, it's got 3 vibration settings, it jams local FM radio frequencies with the American national anthem. It costs 2.8 million dollars apiece and because we embezzled all the DOD funding instead of investing in tooling and personnel we can make max 5 of them a yearIn Iran>Good news! We have improved our process and can now guarantee that at least 70% of our missiles will actually explode>that IS good news. Make 10,000 of them, immediately. And then make another 10,000, also immediately.This is why Iran is humiliating you. It's just a bomb that flies.
>>541252839What a massive cope lmao
>>541252839Unsaveable
>>541253300Says the anon who's military aint shit sit your ass down and watch the big boys play
>>541253701When's the last time you won a war, bro
>>541253756yesterday
>>541253205What you just described is a rocket, not a missle numbnuts. Missles have onboard equipment to change trajectory. Which Russia has made mods to mortar shells hence why I said we really should get the battleships back online asap retrofitted and immediately make about 30 battle carrier hybrids. If they can double or triple the range with advanced ballistics we could easily level everything 100 miles in and still make precision strikes inland. Have them travel in packs of 5. There now you got more firepower that has ever been projected on a naval surface warfare ship
>>541247702Cunt I work for LM and was involved in that program in 2018, and am telling you that you are wrong. All assembly is done in the US. Many components are made in Europe and Asia.
Modern carriers are outdated as if you have 1 squadron of f-35s and some reaper drones also ospreys can be put on them a large runway on the water sounds dumb when you need a bunch more ships just to protect the floating airport
They almost made them
>>541253074>Average /k/ user showing off it's understanding of economy and economicsThe cope continues. Was that approved for public release too? Also,>my unsourced images are true>your sourced images are falseMiggers, not even once.
>>541254011>It was real, in my head.Anyway, don't forget to explain how anything costs less ceteris paribus.
>>541254187>Many components are made in Europe and Asia.If you worked at LM (you didn't), then you should be able to tell me the exact components made in Europe and Asia that are in a THAAD interceptor. Also, THAAD was designed in the 1990s, you didn't do shit to do with THAAD in 2018. You faggots post the stupidest shit and expect people to just believe your low IQ bullshit. KEK.
>>541254653Oh, so you can show me the proof that Iranian modern MRBMs cost 50k to make, surely, right Mutthammed?
>>541243256It's actually FAR worse: our MIC got retarded and fell for the DEI meme kikes pushed everywhere and replaced all the competent white guys with women, faggots, and low IQ browns that were barely able to keep their shit together to have some one chaperone them through a clearance. So it's not that we don't have the facilities, it's that we chased off all the competent white men, so DEI hires are trying to put missiles together the best they can, but it doesn't pass the old legal QC checks to get used in the field. Kikes of course forgot they depend on white guys for their miltech and now they are screwed. The missile outage is gonna be permanent until they can hire white dudes, train them, and replace all the shit DEI hires. >>541244022*Doesn't know about about the production issues plaguing our plane builders thanks to DEI.
>>541242414We were already working on anti-drone drones. The problem is they're still 2+ years out and we foolishly decided to get into a war before they were ready despite seeing what a shitshow drone warfare is for Russia and Ukraine.
>>541255146Yeah, just look at all these niggers!
>>541247206Actual acquisition contracts for existing shit can be simple, if desired. If I want 100 missiles, I can put in the order and I get missiles when the line sharts them out. Sort of how you can go to McDs and get 100 burgers. What is fucked and takes forever is if the production line got shut down, and god help you if you failed to pay the MIC company to keep their shit. That is when SHTF. Because now it's not a contract for 100 more missiles. It's now a billion dollar contract to restart a production line, re-engineer the missile, re-draw it, do a LRIP, fuck that up, fix it, try again, test it, it works, THEN produce the 100 missiles, and pay for all the management and profit overhead a MIC needs. For the burger analogy, this is like letting McDs go bankrupt, and you suddenly need 100 burgers and you need to re-invent McDs as a result.
>>541255398Just look at all these filthy fucking niggers!
>>541254875You understand that the program is still going on today, right? I have worked for LM since 2007. Fuck you are retarded.
>>541242627This. US weapons are extremely dependent on components and materials from China.
>>541247410That is unfortunately required to keep asshole politicians out of the MIC's hair and making things 100 times worse. It spreads the profit/jobs out to all the states so no politician can fuck the MIC up or generate a coalition to shut the MIC down. Yes, there is more transpo costs as a result, but that in itself is more American jobs! The military would be way more efficient if we could just make it all private miltech development (no profit) by gov't employees (cheaper labor). The problem is - this is centralized - and that makes it an easy target. Politically, militarily, etc. Spreading shit out ensures no one can snipe key capabilities and stop everything. Ironically, we could have saved money on mil spending if Dems weren't dependably anti-military and didn't need to spread shit out. They are literally THE source of the waste, but we can't remove them because they hate accountability.
>>541244256Western manufacturing jobs are adult daycare for boomers in the same way corporate human resources jobs are daycare for women.Even expanding production of basic stuff like artillery shells is impossible, no matter how much money is thrown at it. The DoD has spent $500+ million on a new artillery shell plant that can't make a single usable shell due to constant production line failures.
>>541244542kek>>541244457Patriot anti air missiles are supposed to be the work horse of NATO air defense. They've been working on expanding production for the last decade and managed to double it from ~300 interceptor missiles per year to 600.Even if they worked (they're as shitty as they are expensive), that's a piddly amount.
>>541255791wtf man i could design a factory that can make those like 1 per minute.it would be maybe $500 mil, and any nigger can load it with raw materials and my mashine will shit out shells.they dont want that tho for some reason.
>>541255791Recipe for the stuff that goes boom pls?Also flight curve calculations please.
>>541254248>>541251792Trump is already bringing back the battleships
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>>541248222>Anything a union can do for wage cucks, can be done by labor laws and protectionsMaybe. Quick question, can you name any group of lawmakers in the entire US that will make any labor laws or protections?
>>541254875>If you worked at LM (you didn't), then you should be able to tell me the exact components made in Europe and Asia that are in a THAAD interceptor.>>541255474See above
>>541255537Post the source of your pic
>>541255957How many patriots have be shot since the start of the Iran war?
>>541241551>OH ONONO - we are not able to start global level chimpouts anymore!!The western civilization is in deep shit but inability to produce weapons is not the reason for that. China will sell their rare earths just fine for non-military firms.
>>541255791>trillion dollar military industrial complex>assembly line is just one fat boomer in a stained hoodie hand polishing shells one at time
>>541241551It should be so easy right?>make shell>put in boomstuff>put in gostuff>screw together>pop on bangboyWhats the big idea wheres the bottleneck? Is it the bangboy? Just use a fuse then?
>>541241964>Iran has successfully killed a bunch of our guys and will kill more.You say it like its a bad thing
>>541257172Targeting software is the real bottleneck.
>>541251792>>541251792A single drone or missile could sink this billion dollar shitheap. 23 miles is nothing you might as well be pressing your face against their missile silos.
>>541256725There are thousands of components not made in the US, you absolute retard. You have literally chimp level understanding of what goes into these.
>>541254901Oh that's easy. Just use Google.com. If you aren't a normie, that is. Because you aren't a normie, right anon?>>541254875>my statements are unquestionably true>your statements are unquestionably falseThis is what happens when /k/ fills with jeets, best shilling they can do is deflect.
The US is out of trains. China stole all our trains. How does one make trains?
>>541242160>they are going to start indiscriminately killing everyone in Iran with cheap missilesImplying the US isn't already doing this
>>541254875>you should be able to leak classified intel in an undeniable wayNvm, this guy isn't /k/ with that OPSEC mindset. My apologies.
>>541255967Next level cope from a guy who never worked a day in production.
>>541242022Five hundred ... missilesYeah just keep killing all the women and children it worked in germany and japan
>>541257544>Next level cope from a guy who never worked a day in production.you have no idea who you're talking to eurobeaner.
>>541257223How fucking retarded of them, has nobody old them about strg+c and strg+v ?? You can just copy and paste that shit!
>>541257597>eurobeanerFound the poser.
>>541257631you are a nigger.do not ever talk to me again.
>>541256875Far fewer than were required to do the job, as evidenced by all the US bases and assets that were struck, and those bases being evacuated on account that they're indefensible.
>>541245588The rare earths required to assemble these missiles came from China until they cut you off recently. Now they come from Australia through Lynas Rare Earths. The US had no capability to make any missiles for a few months until this alternative source was found and brought to production capacity.https://thediplomat.com/2026/08/the-us-military-cant-function-without-china/
>>541246842This isnt very Lean Six Sigma pilled
>>541257708Takes one to know another. Sleep tight niggy.
We have tons of missiles sitting around
>>541258013kys brownoid.
>>541257389>There are thousands of components not made in the US, you absolute retard.Okay, then name them Ms. LM.>>541257399So...you can't? Got it.>>541257761How many?>>541257856Sure Ling Ling.
>>541245588>>541257856Why the hell do we still need to import shiny rocks from other countries? We own an entire continent for fuck's sake.
>>541246698Those subs are pure eye cancer.
>>541258141Different continents have different deposits of minerals available. For some reason probably set billions or years ago the US continent has very few minerals and the Australian and Asian continents have a ton of minerals, Australia in particular. The US has a rare earth mine in Mountain Pass mine in California, but the output is too low to support the US defence industry. The US just isn't that good at mining for whatever reason
It doesn't take very long when you're in actual wartime production mode instead of boondoggle mode. The MIC as it has existed for the last 60 years exists to jack the price of everything up by 100000% for the obscene profit of the Military-Industrialist warpigs.
>>541258213>the US continent has very few minerals
>>541258579Well we better find some.
>>541258579It's a relative statement. You've got tons of oil, not so many rare earths. It's like civilization, every civ starts with different natural resources. US started with oil, Australia started with minerals.
>>541259005>not so many rare earthsWTF is your retarded ass talking about? The US has the 6th largest reserve of REEs on earth, and is one of the most mineral rich countries on the planet.https://pubs.usgs.gov/periodicals/mcs2026/mcs2026.pdf
>>541259438Its not how much you have in the ground or are able to dig up but how much you can refine and how pure that refinement can be. Right now China has a monopoly on rare earth refinement and thats a fact.
>>541259606>Right now China has a monopoly on rare earth refinement and thats a fact.Only because the refining process literally pollutes the ever loving shit out of their soil and ground water, along with giving all the workers gigacancer. The workers do it for peasant wages, and the CCP sells them for pennies. The US gets cheap REEs and China gets polluted for eternity and thousands of new cancer patients.
