Cutting off USA's power will collapse them.>B BUT US MILITARYyou need electricityevery city will collapse into riots Canada will remain ultra comfy
>>541247733cope nigger
>>541247674Do it
But seriously it's time for Canada to acquire nuclear weapons
>>541247674Delusional liberal retard. Doesn't understand economics at all. Elbows half mast because this country is dead and buried. Annexation coming soon.
>>541249251I'm a NatSoc you conservative jew worshiping pussy ur real ready to suck MIGA cock aren't you?
>>541249251... that Nazi just called you a "migger", and I'm also going to call you a treasonous cuck. How would you like to respond, migger? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyZlj1GrTs
>>541248985Bruh, we can't even agree on basic things like building pipelines. You think you can convince boomers and liberals that we should aquire nuclear weapons?
>>541250328we have nuclear weapons. there are a lot of things in canada we don't talk about. ever.
remain comfy.
>>541247674shut up leaf
>>541247674Please please please do it we want civil war now
>resorting to the master's tricks
>>541249769SAAAR
>>541250515make me Timmy
Very few young men would pick up a rifle for this government IMO
>>541249251Give it two more weeks and we are as good as dead. Oh woe is us for not bending the knee
>>541249769>>541250720>YOU BLOODY BITCH BASTARD DRUMPF YOU ARE THE FUCKINGlol I hope you're trolling
>>541250750they won't need to the Americans will kill each other without electricity
>>541247674Our power girds are intertwined it would just be mildly inconvenient. We shut off power to like 100k people for about an hour. Then they'd retaliate but shutting all ours off.
>>541250869You invaded Canada four times and you got fucked four times. Want to make it a 5th?
>>541251001I'm pretty sure we supply most of the USA's power and they supply exactly none of ours.
>>541248985No need. Just let Chinese build military bases in Canadian soil. Americans will spurg out and fold instantly. The only thing that prevents China from invading America is the pacific ocean.
>>541251264wtf is this true
>>541247674The last time there was a regional power outage, it created rap music.Do you want that to happen again?
>>541251312No its just move convince in some areas to send it north/south then east/west. Like I said mildly inconvenient but basically a nothing threat.
>>541251264I know this is hard to understand cause you're made of poop we are almost totally dependent on the us. I think it was a dumb idea not having better trade relations with Europe to not be total dependent on them but here we are.
>>541251391national power outage for 48 as a flex if BLOMP wants to FAFO we can extend that to 5 days or a full weekUSA will be destroyed
>>541249251I don't understand anything about this weird scuffle between Canada and the United States. I don't understand why Canada would do Chinese trade deals knowing the United States is extremely against it. I don't understand why Canada would do this and then act surprised when trump of all people retaliates. I legitimately don't understand picking a fight with your neighbor and most important trade partner over a Chinese trade deal
Electricity exports are not even our real trump card. Potash exports are. We could absolutely fuck the US ag sector just by putting export tariffs on potash.>>541251001Canada is self-sufficient when it comes to electricity, actually. The only time we buy power from the US is during exceptionally high demand. We export far more power to the US than we get from them, and if we stopped exporting that then we'd actually have a huge surplus.>>541251264We definitely do not supply most of it. But certain regions of the US do get a significant fraction of their power from us, such as Vermont for example.
>>541251657USA picked it with us and is currently violating CUSMA
>>541248985We have nuclear weapons bud.We have had a bomber plane in the sky 24/7 carrying a nuclear payload since the 1970s.If the US Army steps one boot on Canadian soil, they can kiss Detroit or another bordering city goodbye.
>>541251657What Chinese trade deal are you talking about? The one we made AFTER the United Goys of Golemerica started trying to fuck with our economy?Your president is so fucking senile that he calls the trade deal he implemented in his first term (CUSMA) "the worst deal ever" lmao.
>>541251657China is a better ally than America.We don't need you. Lets see how long you last alone against the entire world.
Do it, be based for once.
>>541247674As the only real white Canadian here please just fucking nuke us.
>>541251699Canada has extensive tariffs and protectionism to protect their companies from American competition. Let's not pretend the United States invented the concept to fuck over Canada. With that said, I have no idea what has made Canada so surly. It seems to me you have it on easy street geopolitically but you invent issues because peace is boring.
>>541247674The United States should immediately enforce a 90 day complete trade embargo, electricity and oil included, and militarily seal the border. It would be the only thing capable of cutting through Canadian delusion, and it wouldn't even be felt by the US.
>>541251777Checked but canada hasn't had any bombers since the 1950s. Amarica does have nukes here we don't have any.
>>541251908Remember they are subjects of the British king. "Blood for the blood god" as they have been picked as the sacrificial lambs as the tip of the commonwealth spear against muh Drumph.
>>541251908Gee, I dunno, why would a country want to protect its domestic industry from the neighbouring country with 10x their population and the largest economy in the world?Here's a hint: it's because if we didn't, we wouldn't have any domestic industry. Everything would be subsumed into the American economy. Canadian companies wouldn't be a thing anymore. Without an independent economy, a country cannot meaningfully exercise its sovereignty.Canadian protectionism isn't what's killing your industry. It just stops YOU from killing OURS. Meanwhile the countries that are really siphoning off your jobs are places like China, Vietnam and Mexico.
>>541251862
>>541252001I don't like that trump picked the fight to begin with. But Canada have behaved like bastards every step of the way. Trudeau Jr and the British double agent both have been complete donkeys. My goal would be complete free trade of all kinds both ways on the border. But Canada wants to play political games because their organized crime fronts we call businesses don't want the competition. So they tariff us to hell and back and have for years. I'm not sure there's an honest man working in the management of their milk companies. And many other industries there are similarly affected. I would've preferred free trade and travel but if Canada wants to be our enemies then that's fine too. The United States can accommodate. Also i will take a moment and declare Ottawa sucks. Their CFL team is garbage and the hockey team is worse then the maple leafs in every regard
>>541247674Cucknadians are impotent losers with no power. There entire fake nation is completely pointless. Their whole shtick is "were hecking nice!" Meanwhile they desperately adopt and attach themselves to every American trend. It really makes me sick. We should carpet bomb Toronto.
>>541248985Nukes are fake and gay retard.
>>541252202You petulant child, I'm from a flyover state with 1 fortune500 company. Literally a single one. The state next to mine has zero. And we are still wealthier on average than you guys.
>>541252235I found out recently non of them own their cars. Apparently its all rented for them with out tax dollars.
>>541251190uhh that american soldier is white. Please correct this grievous error
>>541252255>But Canada have behaved like bastards every step of the way.If you stab someone in the back do you expect them to still be courteous to you afterwards? Fucking nigger.>But Canada wants to play political games because their organized crime fronts we call businesses don't want the competition. So they tariff us to hell and back and have for years. I'm not sure there's an honest man working in the management of their milk companies. And many other industries there are similarly affected.American corporations are one of the greatest instruments of ZOG, second only to the American government itself. They are abhorrent entities beholden ONLY to (((shareholders))) thanks to your kiked courts kiking out to the Dodge brothers (also kikes) and establishing shareholder primacy as law in your fucked up country.And the dairy cartel is not relevant here, actually. The reason we have tariffs on agricultural goods such as milk is so that you don't flood our market and drive our producers out of business with your cheap goyslop.Our milk is better, by the way. We don't allow growth hormones to be used in dairy cattle and the milk also gets tested for traces of antibiotics.
>>541247674>leddit spaceingcringed and saged, hoser
>>541247674>(Our citizens) Suffering will continue until morale improves Canadian diplomacy at its finest.
>>541252255>if Canada wants to be our enemies then that's fine tooThat's where I'm at as well. Unfortunately for Canada, their non-US trade agreements are based on their access to the US market. So losing US access would cause those to be renegotiated or canceled. Their media is essentially government owned, so they can't really ever know this. Which is why I was saying what I said: just embargo trade 90 days and the chips will fall.
>>541252545Plenty of white americans left anon
>>541247674Embargoing Canada will collapse them far harder. Also please to Canada bros, if power prices spike enough my plant goes red grid which means they actively tell us not to do work and sit around doing nothing all day.
>>541250114I'm treasonous for hating a country that willingly let itself be invaded by jeets? Let the annexation begin and the jeets get deported.
>>541252704>just embargo trade 90 days and the chips will fall.Do it. Your farmers are going to have a hard time buying fertilizer come next spring, though. So many will go bankrupt. Sad!
>>541252603Americwn milk is unusually expensive so you guys must really be having a bad time if you think overpriced American milk is going to lower prices. A gallon here can be around 3-4 dollars if it's not wal mart or aldi so that's like 4.50-5 cad. I have a hard time believing you pay more than us tbqh
>>541250668They want to rally up the hate with their retarded goy cattle.
>>541252714not in the military. Wafting the pheromones from nigger rectums is a strong deterrent to recruitment.
>>541252849That's completely fine. Canadian potash is not the only thing keeping the world alive.
>>541252772>Embargoing Canada will collapse them far harder.Maybe we just need to start trading with Russia rather than you. Its clear to us you no longer want our business. Canada should join BRICS. Theres no real benefit in being your ally when we have to deal with constant subversion and backstabbing. Do it from the front.
>>541252849Honestly I'm starting to believe the "rally to hate America" stuff is going to be used to justify the decline in Canadian living standards after importing half of Punjab and mismanagement by Trudeau junior and now the British PM of Canada
>>541250406No we don't LMAO the only nukes that have ever been in Canada were American nukes, and they took those back years ago.
>>541252903>he doesn't know that 40% of American fertilizer imports come from Canada>he doesn't know that America imports 90% of its potash and 80% of imported potash comes from CanadaYour crops will wilt and die without Canadian potassium sources.
>>541251908>protectionismYeah we protect ourselves from the absolutely INSANELY cancerous shit you clowns do to your food and livestock that's making you sicker than dogs.
>>541253108>the country that produces and exports the world's asbestos is lecturing us on health and safety standards
>>541253067Yes, Canada is the only source of potassium on Earth. We will take our chances.
>>541252956The "rally to hate america" is because you niggers won't stop acting like cancerous back stabbing jews. all this trade war shit was brought on by YOU. We're simply responding to your niggerjew tactics
>>541253227Name the attack. What exactly are you so ass pained about? I want something more specific than "uhh.. you guys violated the .. uhh.. agreement "
>>541253161>shifting goalposts tonoretend you don't have the most cancerous and toxic food supply in the worldNigger stay on topic. >asbestosCanada doesn't even produce asbestos anymore you lying nigger, all production and extraction is banned here by law. China, Russia, Brazil, and Khazakstan are the only countries still extracting and working asbestos. WE FUCKING BANNED THE USE OF IT BEFORE YOU DID.
>>541247674Keep dreaming Canadork, just one bad look at the US and your country is done for.
>>541252914Canada doesn't consume anywhere near as much as us. But again go ahead. Hey, what's your unemployment rate at the moment?
>541247674>a thread died for this copeFuck you leaf
>>541252545
>>541253227You didn't mirror your politicians with our politicians or something? That would be craaaazy. Imagine voting for the same parties we do. But in your timeline, you pick the opposite politician. (This works with 2 equally powerful nations, you see.)So, if we want to know what Kamala Harris would have been doing, we just need to see what Canadia does; how Canadian democrats treat the neighboring trailer park that is The United States of America. Fascinating.
>>541253187Think you can replace 80% of your imports before the next growing season? When you've made the entire world distrust and despise you? Good luck. Canada is the largest producer of potash on the planet, by a margin of at least 5 million tonnes. Just so you know.
>>541252914We should've traded with them a long time ago, too bad carney is a globohomo kike making us china's bitch instead.
>>541253496Dude, it's the seventh most abundant element on Earth, accounting for just under 3% of the mass of the Earth. We'll be OK. Look at the level of cope you are stooping to.
>>541253510It would be funny if we made some kind of deal with Russia and Belarus (the two next largest producers of potash) to just not sell any of it to the United States.
>>541253496>Canada is the largest producer of potash on the planetCool. What makes you think they can't get enough from other sources though?
>>541253493>blah blah blah blahNigger we have like 5 or 6 parties in parliament at any given time. We copied the same british system you copied, so fuck off you ignorant nigger. >blah blah blah muh strawmanYeah, you're a retarded fucking nigger nigger who couldn't argue the point I made and has to cope about democrats. Suck start a shotgun you fucking clown
>>541253462New cadpat is browner. Also we've got a bit of a problem with the different types of browns they recruited into the caf fighting and raping each other now.
>>541247674I would love to go back to homesteading without any form of electricity. I beg you please kill our grid and send us back to 0 AD in terms of technology.
>>541253555What's the endgame here? Throw away your relationship with your closest and largest trading partner .. and then what? This isn't going anywhere good. Not for Canadians. America will be fine without you guys. And you're throwing away some golden opportunities for a peaceful and prosperous North America just because someone convinced you to he super nationalists instead of responsible pragmatists
>>541253555Funny and advantageous, which is why carney won't do it. His plan is to rape canada and sell it to the highest bidder.
>>541253544There are alternatives, but they are much more expensive (potassium sulfate is 30-50% more expensive per pound of potassium for example).
burn canada
>>541253677If America would be fine you wouldn't be here lying and shilling in a panic pvt.vasquez
>>541253692Pretty sure this is whats happening. I think he was brought in to join us with America.
>>541253677The endgame is a smug sense of superiority to americans. It's the entire canadian identity. When we're starving under a pile of jeet garbage and feces we'll happily say "at least we're not american and don't speak german."
The only thing Canada "needs" is a thorough ethnic cleansing
>>541253560What other sources? Russia and Belarus? China? None of them produce nearly as much as we do, and you have to transport it across the pacific.
>>541251657carney is a globalist bankerdestroying the west and making china the new world cop is their plan
kill all jeets
>>541253754China*. And "join" means "turn us into their bottom bitch slave sate."
>>541253677>Throw away your relationship with your closest and largest trading partnerYour child rapist in chief already did that.
>>541253596
>>541253799>None of them produce nearly as much as we doRead the post again. Who says they need all our stock, and can't get enough from other sources?
>>541253840>no argument>only copesI accept your concession
bomb all jeets
>>541253596So I am right! Although, we've boiled our parties down to two. I'll consider spending my Friday night looking into foundational Canadian political theory. Don't think it's because you called me British.
>>541253885i'm not the other guy. i just thought you seemed a lil angry, big guy
>>541253826>Reee orange man bad it's all i have reeeeLolz canucks base half their national identity on hating Americans, meanwhile they have the living standard they do because they are America's hat.
murder all jeets
>>541253879We supply over 40% of what the US needs, and other countries that produce it either simply can't make enough to match us, or in the case of Russia have zero reason to trade it to the US when they can use it themselves or keep selling to their own allies. he literally told you WHY they won't be able to get enough to easily replace us, because the other nations that do produce it don't produce enough of it.
>>541253826What exactly did trump do that has you ass pained so much? I ask again because nobody will give a specific.
kill pakis, they stink
>>541253971
>>541253879Because other countries don't produce enough. And it's also more expensive to buy it from them. Farmers don't exactly operate on large margins.
>>541253677The British monarchy is economically and culturally demolishing their colonies in unison. Mark Carney is not the head of state, the governor general is above him and King Charles above him. The decisions being made are not from our elected officials, whether that be in the UK, CAN, NZ, AUS. Canada is just using the Trump as an excuse to do the same exact thing as the rest of the british colonies, to what end I don't know yet.
>>541247674Do it. I live down the road from a nuke plant, so I'm good. Let those niggers in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, and the northeast fry under the Sun. Friendly reminder that we take in 70% of your exports, so you might be shooting yourself in the foot, but maybe it'll just result in the jeets leaving. Who knows?
>>541253932>the guy who raped kids with epstein and started a war with iran because netanyahu told him to is heckin good reeeeeeeee>>541253981Well besides him raping kids and increasing the price of gas by starting Israel's war for them, as soon as he took office he started putting tariffs on Canada. Then he started talking about annexation. Do you not expect people to get pissed off when you start talking about annexing their country? Are you that retarded?
>>541254074
>>541247674you are a fucking retard aren't you?
>>541253981>threatened to invade us>broke NAFTA and CUSA trade agreements with us in a fit>dropped unilateral tarrifs on us that go against several of the trade treaties we had with each other>keeps holding and dropping these trade talks with insane demands like jewsThat's just what can be attributed to Trump, the US government as a whole has been giving us underhanded treatment for decades in other ways.>pump billions of dollars into environmental NGO's that target our natural resource economy and manufacturing>used your financing to demolish our manufacturing industry and sent most of it overseas with yours>completely crippled our own automotive industry before we could get it off the ground>spend millions on NGO's that riled up the natives against refineries and oil pipelines that would have given their communities jobs. >spend millions of dollars on politically leftist NGO's like you've done around the world to cripple our politics as much as possible>American corporations fuck with our politics as much as possible>let your corporations run roughshod over both our countries, actively get involved to protect them whenever the Canadian government did try to step up to do somethin go>American intelligence agencies haven't stopped fucking with Canadian politics either.
>>541247674LMAO! Canada? Canada doesn't do shit and isn't important at all lol el nino is gonna be bad this year and Canada will just freeze even more and no one will care lol
>>541254206You don't even understand what the article you're posting is about. An export terminal is for shipping. The actual resources are in Canada.I do think the company should be fined for this, however.
>>541254333it just goes to show you aren't capable of exporting it on your own. that's why US is your largest and most convenient customer.
>>541247674100% export tax on potash going to the U.S. Dust bowl level of famer bankruptcies within 6 months.
>>541254382It shows that it is cheaper to build an export terminal in the US. That doesn't mean we can't build them in Canada, it just means jews care more about money than patriotism.
>>541254382Except that terminal is still getting the potash shipped from Canada to it, dumbass. The resources are up here, it still has to get to that port to get shipped off the continent.
>>541254386I would love that. Americans need to understand the dangers of relying on imports for even basic items necessary for living. Make us suffer.
>>541252297you are a vassal state for Israel
>>541253067my man, just stop. You are angry because you are only allowed to consume government propaganda. things are about to get incredibly bad in this country because we have voted in the same retards for over a decade and the welfare state is too large now for it to swing the other way. The people in this country who produce nothing have the most say and the people who do produce something are forgotten and used as tax cattle to deliver equalization payments to retarded easterners. look inward. reflect. Canada is doomed by its own making. Hell, Eby is just giving land away in BC...thats fucking insane, but government media is telling you that orange man bad and are not even reporting on it.
>>541247674B-based...
>>541254547dude stop, if you don't think Canada is also a vassal state you are incapable of reason.
>>541254333>>541254427It's not just that it's cheaped, it's also because Canada has so many coastline/waterfront protections it's prohibitively difficult to get permits to build a new port, or expand existing ports. it would also require getting companies like CNR and CPR to run new rail lines to the port, getting whicher province gets the port to build new roads there, etc. It's likely more a problem of red tape rather than cost. One of Canada's biggest fuckin problems is how fucking hard it is to get anything started here, unless you're one of the foreigners who get insane loans and easy permits for new scam businesses anyway.
>>541254433and you think you'll be able to cut off the US potash exports and still get to use your brand new 1 billion dollar export terminal? Nutrien has no plans to stop exporting to US. It's delusional.
>>541249251Found the MIGA cuck!
The Beavers are gathering...The Loons are preparing their auditory assault...The Grizzly Contingent is prepared to Swallow Washington and California whole.America.You have made a mistake.
>>541249251Why are Albertans like this?
>>541247674>run by retards>importing browns by the millions to drive up housing prices and replace white peopleWhy are you retards acting like Canada isn't already a US state in all but name?
You are going to see an epic TACO shortly. US Debt hit $40T, increasing at $10B per day. The 30yr bond hit 5.31% which is a 19 yr high. In the past two weeks the US has been propping Japan and US Treasuries. Trump goes ahead with 50% tariffs, Carney has said he will match, shooting US inflation up. The usual lever the Fed pulls is a rise in interest rates. But now they are boxed. Trump plays big Daddy, but Japan ($1T UST) and Canada ($0.5T UST) have his balls in their hands. Dump treasuries sends USA off a cliff. Hopefully cooler heads prevail, but Trumps ego does not allow him to retreat. Iran is clowning him, so he will burn the US to the ground before admitting defeat.
>>541254193Canada already had tariffs on American goods. I don't understand this sleight of hand where Canadian tariffs on the USA are good but it was evil when trump did it back to Canada ?Wouldn't the lesson be that tariffs are bad and we should do away with them?
>>541254894Whatever, I'm tired
>>541247674So why do you want to hurt people here like that though? Kind of unhinged, nglMost people here don’t hate Canada or even think about it
>>541254652and even if you somehow did manage to accomplish that absolutely retarded goal, there would just be middleman countries that buy it up from Canada and sell it to the US.
>>541254894boomer
>>541254652I'm not even the anon who was saying it's a completely realistic solution. It would be doable anyway, the Canadian government absolutely has the power to force Nutrien to stay in its lane if it wanted to. Once again the problem comes down to our government being two things>not running in service of Canadians>being subject to decades of relentless attempts to defang its useful capabilities from traitors within, and hostile entities on the outside(US, global corporations, china, the crown, etc)The argument itself isn't delusional, I covered the most likely reasons they're building the port in the US vs building it in Canada here >>541254649They likely just couldn't get any provinces or the fed to agree to cutting back environmental protections so they could do the build, couldn't guarantee cheap foreign workers(canada IS actively cutting down on this now) and couldn't get other Canadian companies to play along. That's not even touching on all the treaty bullshit they would've had to navigate with whatever local native tribes have a say in what development has on the waterways in question.
>>541255000It doesn't really matter to me what the middlemen do with the stuff once it's out of our hands. The middlemen would have more of an effect on you anyways, because they're going to raise the price before selling to you anyway. Most of your farmers are already operating on hair thin margins, how much of a hike in fertilizer prices can they afford?
>>541254294The government of Canada is by far your worse enemy than anything America could've done. Even if every town in Canada was garrisoned with us troops we still wouldn't be able to force you guys to give land acknowledgments or to accept importing millions and millions of foreigners from third world countries . America didn't make your housing unaffordable. We didn't make Trudeau junior get elected. We didn't make you give Quebec infinity concessions. I ending make you give land acknowledgments. We didn't put the Laurentian Elite in power. That was you. You guys did all that. Most of what's in your list is vague. I'm listing actual policy issues if your own government. But they found the best trick in the book, they are letting the United States and Trump be the external enemy to rally around. A wonderful distraction from the problems of your own design
>>541254084>The British monarchy is economically and culturally demolishing their colonies in unisonYou don't understand politics do you?
>>541255160Just a coincidence I guess my bad
>>541255136>completely ignores everything they've done to oy vey and kvetch about our (often forced by the same global elites as yours) mistakes like a wounded jewI accept your concession. We know about our own internal issues, the entire topic of this thread is the trade beef between our countries, stay on topic, fifth-wit.
>>541255131Washington would likely respond with massive escalation.
>>541248985>But seriously it's time for Canada to acquire nuclear weaponsislamic countries should not have nukes.
>>541255045Boomer kid. GenX. Good catch though.
>>541254563>>541254616>s-stop! l-leave america alone! c-canada is le bad!What is the point of this nihilistic shit? What does wallowing in hatred for your own country accomplish?Anti-nationalist niggers like you make me sick.>>541254652I don't care about the 1 billion dollar export terminal nor do I care about what Nutrien's plans are. The continued operation of Nutrien, or any corporation, is a privilege granted by the government. If the government decides that Canada will no longer export potash to the United States, what is Nutrien going to fucking do about it?This shit is part of why America is a fucked up country. "Well the corporation says no, so that's that!" But actually it isn't, if only your government wasn't bought out by corporations (something which the American people ALLOWED to happen) and had the balls to tell them to fall the fuck in line and serve the interests of the country that allows them to operate.
>>541255221He may have a point though. The corruption and bloat in most of the anglosphere countries has grown so much that most shit is entirely out of the crowns control now. The crown itself doesn't have a real say anymore either, they're also beholden to/part of the global elites who are all hellbent on dismantling and enslaving their countries/the world for various reasons.
>>541251672>and if we stopped exporting that then we'd actually have a huge surplus.And store it where? How? With batteries? Good luck procuring that many, for the foreseeable future. There's no real way to store excess power, so instead power grids calibrate energy generation to demand. If you suddenly have a huge decrease in demand, you have to scale down production. So basically, you just furloughed a lot of energy workers.
>>541251657the gaslighting over which side is "picking a fight" here is legitimately fucking insane
>>541252820Jeets get deported?Lol, if america succeeds in invading you, they'll make your jeets the governor-generals to rule you on behalf of america.All tyrants worldwide and throughout history love jeets because of how amoral they are, so they make the perfect henchmen.Meanwhile, resisting the American invasion is your best hope of being rid of jeets, because jeets are inherently turncoats, so you'll get an opportunity to accuse them of treason
>>541254084This.
>>541255257Then we come back to the original problem. Now the middlemen just won't sell to you if you're going to escalate against them for not selling to you at a loss. Everyone will just eat the loss and not sell to you at all. Every single solution you keplep bringing up is just a roundabout way of continuing to cripple yourselve, and nearly every country in the world has a genuine cassus belli to unite against you, and you're doing everything in your power to further encourage it.
>>541255352Vague posting ? Afraid you might say something ?
>>541251657>Rip up NAFTA>Rip up HIS OWN trade deal>"Why isn’t Canada dealing fairly???"
>>541254894Canada's economy is more dependent on the us than the us economy is dependent on Canada Canada will suffer far more being the smaller economy
>>541254914We had tariffs designed specifically to protect our markets against being flooded by cheap US goyslop, which would drive our domestic industries out of business. We aren't the ones siphoning off your industrial base, so what purpose do your tariffs serve besides enriching Howard Lutnick's sons when they get struck down by the Supreme Court?
>>541255377i meant towards canada not the middleman
>>541248985Trudeau would have ordered the nuking of the truckers.
>>541253294You tariffed aluminium and steel, and doing so destroyed what little existed of the Canadian automobile industry. Lots of jobs lost.Then there's the 50% tariff on Canada's agricultural exports and alcohol. Those industries also had to downsize
>>541255341>you have to scale down production>So basically, you just furloughed a lot of energy workers.Oh no, we'll have to let a little bit less water through our hydro dams! Everyone knows you need workers to manually pump it through the turbines! If we decrease production, where will all the guys on the exercise bikes hooked up to the pumps work?
>>541255341We do have our power grid built to be able to scale down. We have numerous nat gas plants along the border thay could be run down significantly because they were built to power the US, or act as regional stabilizers for the whole continental network. We also have several nuclear plants that can be scaled down without having significant staff cuts.
>>541255412>We can tariff you when we want, but you cant do it back.Why is the west like this to the US.
>>541251657Why shouldn't Canada trade with china? Why does the US feel like it can dictate who Canada cna trade with?
>>541255322Its called self awareness. Canada has been retarded long before Trump came along. You think you have all the answers but are in fact embarrassing yourself. Carney is fleecing us, the Conservatives will also probably fuck things up. The country is doomed. We are going the way of Rhodesia. we are basically just waiting for our Lancaster house agreement as the final nail in the coffin. Everything here is corrupt from municipal to federal governments and they pander to the lowest and least productive parts of society. Its over man, and if you want to think that we will "punish the yanks" you are essentially just accelerating the problem. I don't really care what happens because Canadians are retarded enough to vote for it, so reap what you sew. If you think Carney has Canadians best interests in mind you should go touch grass.
>>541255414>W-w-w-we'll just keep giving the world more reasons to unite against us. Yeah, good luck with that when you can't even fucking handle Iran as it is.
>>541255510Chinese goods are routed through Canada to bypass US tariffs.
>>541247674>"Every city in America'Delulu Canadian cuck.America has more nukes and more nuke power plant than Canada. Leaf blower Fag.
>>541255571>t-t-they're getting Americans the things they want for the prices they wantoh no, how terrible.
>>541255510Also doesn't want Chinese technology, capital, and data systems embedded in North American industries as a matter of national security.
>>541255392We sell raw materials. They can be sold anywhere around the world. Much easier to sell to US, but discounts are always demanded. We are the #1 customer for 22 states and top 3 for 45 states.Ontario was the largest purchaser in the world of bourbon. It has now been off the shelves for 2 years. No more old fashions.
>>541255611 U.S. policymakers treat North America as a unified trade and security zone. Under this view, an open door from China into Canada represents a backdoor vulnerability into the United States.
>>541255542cutting off an entire country from fertilizer isn't something that the world views positively. not sure why you think you would be seen as the good guy in that hypothetical (and retarded) situation.
>>541255323It's futile to try and find a boogeyman pulling the strings when the glaring commonality between these nations is the head of state. I used to think incompetence could explain away most things though I've matured a lot since those days.
>>541253443Can you name a country that consumes more than the US? Your culture is so reliant on "consuming" that the entire world sees you as spiritual materialists.
>>541248985Canada couldn't even manufacture an automobile much less enrich uranium.
>>541255250im a canadian expat and I just want you to know you are the darkest brownest gorilla jeet nigger and I hope canada burns to the ground while I enjoy making 350k in californiafuck your boomer nationalism, canada made its own problems.
>>541255586The US may have more by sheer quanitity, but the grid isn't really built with that in mind. There are several regions in the US that depend almost entirely on Canadian grids. If we disconnected from the US tens of millions would be out of power for months, to years while the US unfucks and reroutes it's power grid and builds out new generators to service those areas. Shit, as it is the US relies heavily on Canadian tradies coming down to save their asses when it comes to recovering their utilities after natural disasters. The next tornado season or hurricaine season would cripple them for a decade if we decided to sit the recovery out.
>>541255662How many things in canada are gotten mostly exclusively from the US.I notice you dont mention those.Shall i?
>>541255749Canada isnt in the top 10 for exports.
>>541255673Your plicymakers are the reason China is active in both of our countries, and is the behemoth it is today you dumb cunt. Your policymakers gave them everything at the behest of Israel, your policymakers allow the Chinese government to buy up land around your military installations, and your policymakers gave them our manufacturing.>>541255706cutting off a country that's been openly hostile and belligerant to the entire world since the world wars would be viewed favourably. It would only get better for us the worse you keep acting. >the worlds "elites" are a boogeyman>muh heads of stateMost heads of state are hand picked puppets by the wealthiest people in the world. shalom btw
>>541255749>>541255611>we'll just cut power and fertilizer to them wholesale, what could go wrongPeak boomerleaf hubris, enjoy getting fucking glassed.
>>541255746>no argument>lashes out at a strawman like a wounded jew
>>541255896>t.can't even handle iran
>>541252340so you're telling me you're one of the broke retarded americans whose opinions dont matter?
>>541255505>why doesn't the west want their economies to be completely and utterly dominated by the US?Fucking cry about it nigger.>>541255538I don't like Carney. I never said I did.>durrhurrr canadians are le retarded, oh woe is me why can't america just nuke us already boo hoo hooWhy don't you get out of the country if you hate Canadians so much?>>541255706The United States of America isn't something that the world views positively. Not sure why you think you would be seen as the good guy in any hypothetical situation.
what the fuck is with all these leafs who unironically care about this pozzed countrywho the fuck cares
>>541255926Yep, there it is again. Honestly believing they wouldn't steamroll us in a fucking blink. Delusional retard.
>>541255931He's saying you would do well, better than you are, by becoming such a broke American since they are better off than you.
>>541255945>Life is a popularity contestSure it is.
The Orca Brigade has also been formed.Great Wrath spreads across the waters.Meanwhile the Heron shall Darken the Sky.Oh ye of Foolish Dreams...Witness Nature's Blade...The Power of the Leaf.
>>541255980No they aren't lmao
>>541255956Would they beat us in a conventional war? Yes. Would they beat us in the guerrilla war that follows? Fuck no.>>541255980>you would do well by joining the country that is about to draft its population to die in the Iranian mountains for Israel
>>541255885k. well, good luck. you'll need it.
>>541255571That sounds like bullshit.Any proof?Who in the US is paying to have chinesium smuggled in, instead of something more profitable like say...cocaine.Or even weed, since it's legal in Canada.
>>541255616National security? Is china gonna invade?
>>541256024Bangladesh isn’t nice
>>541255991Nobody likes the United States except Israel. You have alienated every other ally.
>>541255945>The United States of America isn't something that the world views positivelyHating a government is one thing. Starving a whole population on purpose is another.
>>541256019>>541256020Out of curiosity, what you estimate your net worth to be?
>>541256046You underestimate just how much the rest of the world hates Americans. Especially after you elected a senile pedophile who threatens to annex his supposed allies every other week.
>>541256019Don't forget that the US data is VERY heavily skewed by the super rich.discount the top 1000 earners from the US stats and that average wealth figure would more than halve.
>>541256045According to far left zoomies like you we have.
>>541256020>Would they beat us in the guerrilla war that follows? Fuck no.More delusion. >let's turn this country into the next ukranny instead of making a slightly unfavorable trade deal - t. retarded boomer
>>541256041No, they just steal everything. Industrial espionage.
>>541256102Do that for every country in Europe too then.
>>541256098>the worldYour TDS bubble is not the world.
>>541256098you live in an online bubble of delusion
>>541256082~$230k at 30
>>541255945It wouldn't hurt my feelings at this point if we gave Canada the same trade we gave Cuba back in the 1960's. Nothing. No trade. None. Have fun with that.
>>541255737Technically we could and do it secretly https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-remains-antinuke-road-to-bomb-getting-shorter-9.7283194
FUCK LEAFS
>>541256098>but everyone in my homeroom agrees the us is totally evil Lol, preddit circle jerker.
>GDP comparisons>net worth comparisonsI still don't understand why everyone everywhere does this...it's so unbelievably stupid to do, almost completely useless as a way of understanding populations in different places.As for 'remove top earners' you would similarly halve any wealthy countries numbers by doing so.Anyway, even the concrete 'home ownership' is a relatively useless metric. Due to such poor analyses being the commonality I can easily project the future if any/all present players succeed: Despair.
>>541256024I don't think you realize just how much Americans are addicted to cheap chinese trinkets and garbage, anon. >>541256046Anon half of America voted for Epstein's best friend to be president, and he's spent both his terms shit talking everyone else, threatening everyone, and trying to rip us all off. I don't think you realize how tired of American bullshit the world is getting, and its not just our views on the government, the American people keep fucking accepting all the bullshit and voting for it, on both sides. I genuinely feel bad for my American friends, because they have to live with other Americans.
>>541256082Why do you care?>>541256118Yeah, sure, only the far left care when your senile child rapist of a president threatens to annex his allies. Sure.>>541256119>zigger shilling against Canadalol>>541256148/ptg/ is not the world. The only "people" who like Trump are third world brownoids, jews and Amerimutts.
>>541256098Have you noticed how many Canadian flags aren't really Canadian? I see it with Brit flags too all this I guess it's VPNs or lefties who want to see countries and nationalism destroyed.
>>541256209You know by living in the us do you?
>>541256164So that's USD$167k, probably about average for burgers with a career, not bad.
>>541256241>child rapistWhen you have any proof please present it.
>>541255749Canada supplies electricity to almost exclusively Democrat run states lol.
>>541256291The proof is in the files that he refuses to release (despite promising to release them during his campaign).
>>541256209>still genuinely trying to use your tds to justify mass starvation>>541256241>jewkraine shill that genuinely wants us to be like themYou've revealed your brown hands. Pack it up.
>>541256102The American Bible Belt Deep South states are more prosperous on average than Canadian provinces even when you consider these flyover hellholes don't have super rich people living there.
>>541256206>GDP comparisonsAmericans do it all the time, it benefits them but in reality, it has no bearing on living standards or how wealthy the average guy in the street is. Country rich but people are poor.
>>541256268the fact he said 'at 30' shows hes actually proud of that pathetic numberthats how poor cucknadians are
>>541256209if you switched "American" with "Canadian" with your last statement, the same would be true. what the actual fuck are you babbling about?Canadians seem to live on this fucking high horse when it comes to the USA out of an inferiority complex, when reversed, most Americans don't think about Canada at all. Everything you just said, Canada is the same.
>>541256342>still genuinely trying to use your tds to justify mass starvation>NOOOO PLEASE DON'T STARVE THE HECKIN MUTTERINOSkek.>You've revealed your brown hands. Pack it up.You know what's really funny is that browns overwhelmingly support Russia.
>>541256138Yes, but it's not even close to the same degree of insanity as it is in the US. >>541256148>muh tds mup de doShut up, migger fifth-wit. >>541256157>>541256194cope harder>>541256209It's also not even just about Trump either, Americans as a whole have been a global problem for generations, despite all the good people who do live there. There's just something genuinely rotten about the collective American psyche whenever it does manage to rouse itself.
>>541249769>>541250720>"I am natsoc">"Make me timmy"You are not a natsoc. You are some non white, likely Indian, larping as one.
>>541256370If you hate Canadians so much, why are you still here, Gurpreet?
>>541256319If trump was in them why didnt Joe release them?
>>541256408You say so, you provide no proof whatsoever.
>>541256363How much do you think early career professionals make?
>>541256424Because democrats (possibly including Joe himself) are also in them, you gullible faggot?
>>541256416I have explained it here >>541256243
>>541256258No, I know for two reasons>Americans never shut the fuck up about how much they love cheap chinese garbage trinkets>Americans shaped the entire world economy around getting cheap chinese trinkets>>541256342>muh tds mup de doProvide a real argument or you're gay
>>541256470As if he couldn't scrub his name from documents he released.
>>541256391>unhinged zelenskike shillName a more iconic duo>browns overwhelmingly support russiaI'm sure you're an expert on your people's behavior. But the point is that we don't wanna throw our white population into the meat grinder just to satisfy some globohomo faggot's ego and line his pockets.
>>541256521When have you heard someone super happy about getting some temu shit that wasnt a zoomer or a female?
>>541256424For the same reason Obama sat on his own admins Epstein investigation for both his terms, the full file dump implicates EVERYONE at the top in some way.
>>541256521>>541256408>quoted twice with the same replyUh oh melty. Looks like I hit the nail on the head.
>>541255381that's not vague, I'm directly calling you a retard over your implication that Canada is the instigator when it's the trump administration who ripped up THEIR OWN DEAL they created after ripping up the prior deal
>>541256460in cucknada not much
>>541254894The tariffs are not significant enough to cause the bond market to panic lmao
>>541256416I am a 6th generation Canadian, My grandparents grandparents parents landed in Halifax in July of 1823 from Stavanger Norway. Believe me, I would fucking leave, but I can't. There is 0 pathway to citizenship elsewhere for actual Canadians trying to escape Canada's retardation. We bring in the entire fuckin world including infinite indians but have no escape.
>>541256545You mean like how almost half of the half of the documents that were released by the Trump admin were full of redactions, including names and full pages?>>541256573>temu slopNigger, everything in your country post the 90's was made in Asia, or made with parts made in Asia.
>>541256671You make everything you use in house do you?
>>541256600I didn't quote your post twice you stulid illiterate jeetnigger, I replied to two different posts of yours. Learn how to fucking read post numbers holy shit lmao
>>541256416>patriotic cucknadian who also uses jeet names as an insultThis kind of mental illness needs to be studied. Your 'country' that you simp for is preparing to put you in prison for racism like this.
Within all of Canada's free trade agreements (FTAs), with a host of other countries, there is something called a baseline memorandum of understanding (MOU). That MOU outlines how the trade agreement for goods sold into Canada are contingent upon Canada retaining access to the US market.When the USMCA is dissolved, almost every single FTA organized by the Canadian government that matters collapses. Canadians have no concept of what is coming. The financial system in Canada is dependent on its historical ties to the United States. Pull out all of the dependencies within the economy, a result of a fracturing of the “geopolitical relationship,” and suddenly the Bank of Canada faces a “cascading series of events” they have not previously had to entertain. A significant number of multinational corporations within Canada are geographically centered due to American proximity and the dependency that has historically been considered a partnership. That relationship has now changed, and despite Mark Carney saying that Canada can be stronger standing alone, there is no economic model for Canada to retain its wealth position without the inherent subsidy that proximity to America provides.
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>>541256708Yes I meant you quoted me twice with the same braindead gorilla nigger reply.>provide a real argument for not starving the US
>>541256688I never said that, we suffer the same manufacturing problems you do BECAUSE OF YOU. See: >>541255885>>541254294and stop fucking playing dumb
>>541256735>there is no economic model for Canada to retain its wealth positionso they should bend over and let you fuck them up the ass ?nah, rather be poor and eat potatoes.
>>541256800Yup, you're not responsible for anything it's all our fault. Yup we voted for your leaders.
>>541256744Well then for the third time>provide a real argument for not responding to threas and economic escalations that are doing the same thing to our own people alreadynow get off my dick, gayboy.
>>541256809>nah, rather be poor and eat potatoes.Good, you'll get that.
>>541256737That is not entirely accurate though. At least half the leaf flags that post here are not White.
>>541256809>so they should bend over and let you fuck them up the ass ?Why, That's the Government of Canada's job!
>>541256820>no argument>only copesl accept your concession again.canada has almost no manufacturing because Americans bought it out and offshored it.
>>541256845>>nah, rather be poor and eat potatoes.>Good, you'll get that.well, you will be eating niggers, so Im still better off than you
>>541256825I did, and then you said we could beat them in a fight, and should turn into the next ukraine trying.
>>541256915>i didand I told you why you were wrong>and then i made up a strawman argument in my mind to argue with I accept your consession, gayboy.
>>541256865Can't buy things that aren't for sale. you just admitted to Canadians fucking themselves and then blame Americans for it. jesus christ man just think before you post.
>>541256865>consession Zoomers always do the same "pigeon plays chess" debate style.
>>541256601Trump is a retard. I don't know what you want me to say. But the situation is so sour I have no expectations that the status quo before trump will come back. If Canada continues to play hardball I'd expect the next president to do so as well. I don't see the magic wand to repair the relations when Canadians are seething about the sorts of tarrifs Canada itself uses all the time.
>>541256992Most of the time it is said just to frustrate someone online.
>>541256986No, you said "we could totally beat them." So basically you're a retarded nigger.
>>541256992>doesn't provide an argument>copes about a bird metaphor instead of providing a real argumentWhy are Americans like this?>>541256987>can't buy things that aren't for saleWhat is a hostile takeover/buyout? What are mergers, aquisitions, etc? There's tons of mechanisms that allow global businesses to devour each other without the victim company really being able to do anything about it aside from appeal to compromised governments(again, compromized by US, foreign and corporate interests.)
>>541256865>canada has almost no manufacturing because Americans bought it out and offshored it.They did the same to British companies. >>541256987>Can't buy things that aren't for sale. Yes you canHostile takeovers happen more often than you think.
>>541257080Quote the post where I said that, you lying little cunt, because the other fifth-wit who tried to make this cope argument stick failed too. >>541257030>gets frustrated about his own inability to provide legitimate arguments>plays the victim
>>541256617In both the US and Canada the average for early career professionals is going to be around $50,000-100,000 in their respective currencies, ~25-35% of that is taken by taxes and benefits deductions like pension, healthcare, etc. 30-50% will be eaten up by rent/mortgage depending on local cost of living.The rest is discretionary (transportation, food, etc.).So when you say a quarter million is a pathetic amount, maybe that's true. But the average American at the same age is going to have a similar amount. It's only certain niche locales and industries and inflated total comp headline numbers that go into the mid six figures. The typical person in America is not making 2-3x what you think Canadians make. The main difference is there are some people in some industries in San Francisco/New York/Miami where total compensation is 2-3x that.
>>541257160>muh gorilla warfarewas your deluded boomercuck argument.
>>541257160>36 postsYes Saar.
>>541257197Wait my bad, that was the other green ID jeet. Yours was even worse.>b-but iran
>>541257112>>541257128So every single industry has been a hostile take-over? or has it been from over regulation, incredibly long permitting times, government beaurocracy, incredibly high operating costs vs profits, and greed from Laurentian elites? do hostile takeovers happen? sure, is it the cause of Canadas industrial problems? absolutely the fuck not.
>>541257018>that the status quo before trump will come back.Not the status quo, no. That's gone, Canada likely does not view the US as a stable or reliable partner. But probably not the same degree of incompetence-fueled chaos, either.>when Canadians are seething about the sorts of tarrifs Canada itself uses all the time.Mutual tariffs, subsidizations, supply controls etc existed on both sides before the kerfuffle. The seething is moreso coming from the flip-flopping and backstabbing, initiated last year on the back of laughably false pretenses (e.g. opioids from Canada when that nation is responsible for like 0.2% of the US supply, Canada "taking advantage" of the US when they're actually at a trade deficit with the US once you include services and they also sell oil to the US under pretty favorable terms)
>>541257197>couldn't do it>doubles down on copingI accept your concession>>541257198>no argument>boogeyman copeslol. LMAO even. Whiter than you, pvt.sanchez>>541257235Yes, and guess what>pools still closed>iran leaders>replaced with even more hardline leaders>irans nuclear infrastructure: untouched>iran's military: still pumping out missiles and drones
>>541257246Merging or having anything to do with an American company is a nail in the coffin. Bean counters don't see this and don't really care until the company is sent abroad or the product is fucked.
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>>541257314किं त्वं पत्रेण वा प्रतिस्मृत्या वेतनं प्राप्नोषि
>>541257358do the scary yanks come to canada and put a gun to the industries CEO and say merge or we will kill you? or do they get paid a fuckton of money to sellout and then the larger American companies take over from there?
>>541257246It's a combination of things anon.take my home town for example. Every single factory out of the dozen that closed down during my childhood and teenage years did so after either American or global corporate entities bought out or merged the Canadian side into their own, and then parted everything out to sell/offshore to the Chinese, including the machines and forklifts and anything else that could be unbolted from the buildings.New industries and businesses couldn't move in and take their places because of the over-regulation and red tape, and the sheer fact they couldn't compete with the price floor Chinas new manufacturing given to them by the Americans allowed them to set for most of the shit we can/could make.
>>541257314>yes andyes and we're not iran. We don't have the geographical or para/military advantage. Figures it's posturing faggots like you who think we have leverage. I have no interest in dying for your inflated ego, boomer.
>>541257363>>541257364>can't argue with what I said>continues coping about boogeymenHow would you two feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
>>541257472Cool, now they have a president who wants to decouple from China, and your solution is to... sell out to China.
>>541257161holy fuck you are retarded.american currency is worth 40% more per dollar and the cost of housing is cheaper and the taxes are lesscanada will never be nice because its filled with coping retards
>>541257517अहं सामान्यतः प्रभातभोजनं न खादामि
>>541257472yes exactly. OUR GOVERNMENT is responsible for making things so incredibly hard and restrictive to allow industry to flourish here. Can't blame the Americans for that. a building permit in vancouver can take millions of dollars and years to get approved. that's fucking insane. you need a permit, license, registration, consultations, fees, taxes, more consultations and plans before you can take a shit in this country. If it was easy for industry to thrive here, they would do it, but they won't when they have to deal with our actual mentally retarded governments.
>>541257568Housing isn't cheaper and the taxes are similar at that level. You've never actually done the math, probably because you've never had the opportunity to go.
>>541257504>we dont have the geographi-anon we have the second largest country (maybe third, I forget)in the world, Americans couldn't even take Afghanistan, and can barely hold their own country together. >we dont have the advantageAnon, America constantly gets clowned on in wargames by its allies, including the CAF. Even at it's peak. As it is now, America can't even supply itself for extended action dealing with Iran, they've had to pull equipment and supplies out of the Asian theatre to make up for what they can't replace in the regional bases Iran has smoked in this conflict.
>>541257640Look, my man, you are fucking baiting now. i could buy two of the same house in the states for what I paid for my place in BC. AND I could do it in a place with better weather.
>>541257551>a president who wants to decouple with China>by offshoring his own merchandise production to the chinese
>>541257702Where in the states?In San Fran? in NYC? In Miami?Or are you talking about somewhere in Texas?Look up the property tax rate in Texas.
>>541257291Oh I can't wait to see what happens when American ties with Canada are pulled back and Canada has to stand on its own two feet. Crying about backstabbing, the policy change was a backstab? Good god you cry like a woman. Now make a land acknowledgement about the theft from the First Nations people, and chant Waheguru like the sikhs do
>>541257688>Americans couldn't even take Afghanistanthey literally held it for over 2 decades...we were also there and also couldn't "take it" >Anon, America constantly gets clowned on in wargames by its allies, including the CAF. Even at it's peak.come on now. the CAF hasn't clowned on anyone militarily in a century.>America can't even supply itself for extended action dealing with Iran,NEITHER COULD WE, Iran has a way more motivated, equipped and competent army and airforce than we do in Canada. sure we have the second largest land mass, but we all live within 50 km of the fuckin border. the USA could make ottawa glow in the dark and sink our navy without leaving port and there's not a fucking thing we could do about it. guerrilla warfare isn't an option, most of our citizens are mentally retarded, have disabilities and are no guns. This is delusion.
>>541257688We also don't have an ocean between us or mountains literally everywhere. We on their fucking border and so is most of our population. Fucking armchair general larpers. Thanks for confirming my suspicion about boomer delusions.
>>541256413Tru
>>541257756Pick any state. And I don't live in a big city, and I wouldn't want to. I pay 4500 a year in property taxes here and the house i live in is pretty modest.Wanna know why the taxes are so high? Our retarded government keeps closing our industries and shifting the property taxes onto the citizens when the industry leaves.I was also looking at Tennessee or Georgia for land if i were to find a way to leave
>>541252820US is just going to ship more of their jeets north to Toronto. i have a better idea. how about you get the fuck out of my country. i guarantee you or your sad excuse for parents are first generation anyway and you relied on handouts from MY tax dollars. fuck 'elbows up'. how about my fist in your face, pussy
>>541257818>held itThey held a couple cities, with a LOT of heavy lifting from their allies to cover their weak spots.also, the US military that exists now isn't the same as the US military that existed during the Afghan war. >w-w-we haven't clo-You should look up our wargame records against the US, as well as the Australians and the UK if you think that. hell, we won't have to do much anyway, by the time the US is done getting clowned by iran there will be little left, if their own forces don't mutiny again at larger scales first. >Neither could weWe don't have to sustain ourselves on an extended external conflict. We'd be in the position of Afghanistan and Iran sitting and waiting for the US to smother itself with it's own weight and incompetence.
>>541257637This is the primary reason the CUSMA will be canceled and bilateral agreements will take its place. The entire idea of a North American FTA was having the zone become a more unified set of policies, and Canada has been going the Net Zero carbon, deindustrialization, very heavy regulation, globohomo European approach while the US and Mexico are getting tighter and tighter. It would have been great to see Canada come along, but they have not yet cut their ties to the king and the old empire. Canada has been playing both sides and the time for choosing will come soon.Eventually 100 brave Canadians will occupy a foothold on the Alberta side of the Montana border and sign the US Declaration of Independence from the crown, and request to be annexed into Montana, and eventually there will be choosings to be chosen.
>>541257989Stop it, Get Help.
>>541257977Boomer cringe YIKES
>>541257989Your delusions aside, I'm not fighting your war, boomer. Nobody is. Rethink any argument that leads to war with the US because it's not happening.
>>541248985canada doesnt even have rocket missiles lmao
>>541257637I'm not blaming the Americans for dverything though, this entire thread I've only been blaming them for the things they did to tilt our government in the interests of foreign businesses and governments. And once again, for the third time ITT. almost every single one of the NGO's that pushed us in this direction were being funded by the US through several avenues, including USAID, and private finance.
>>541247674Do what you gotta do. Fuck orange dementia daddy. Cuttin' off power to Michigan (a swing state) will ruin any scant hope of a Republicunt winning there in November. People have had it with Miga and their tariffs.
>>541258046>no arguments>copes with concern trollingConcession accepted>>541258125I'm not particularly interest in fighting a war with the US either, nor am I a boomer. I've simply been explaining why/how it isn't unrealistic that we COULD survive a war against the US.
>>541257756look up the income tax rate in texas you fucking retardmost americans dont live in new york city or san francisco housing is objectively cheaper, taxes are objectively less, and wages are objectively higher
>>541258147The inability to take responsibility for our own actions and shift blame is an actual nation wide mental health epidemic.Do you suppose China hasn't or won't do the same to our weak pathetic leaders?
>>541258217>I'm not particularly interest in fighting a war with the USThen you should stop suggesting that we cut off their electricity and fertilizer.
>>541258247Here's the differenceNow factor in that Americans pay $500-1000+/mo in health insurance and you have all the difference in wages and taxes accounted for
>>541258217define surviving? gloves off we are getting smoked. I can't even explain to you how smoked we would be. Any form of guerrilla warfare would be ended by the middle of December, that's also IF you somehow made all the fit fighting age males side with this retarded plan.
>>541258147>NGO's that pushed us in this directionsurely it wasn't the WEF stooges and bankers you voted in. nothing to do with them
>>541258286>gaslighting this hard at strawmenI've repeatedly made mention of our own flawed decisions we've made, stop trying to deflect.>Do you suppose China hasn't or won't do the same to our weak pathetic leaders?no, CSIS got in shit for going public about how bad the chinese influence was getting. They're getting in shit for talking about all the problems with the fucking jeets too. They also get in shit all the time for talking about American/corporate influence too. >>541258290>then just roll over and let the US keep helping global elites dismantle our home around us and disenfranchise us. No thanks, I don't think I will.
>>541258349my man, i had 65k in deductions on my check last year. $1000 a month sounds like a fucking dream.
>>541258130American cities are close, we could get them with trebuchets
>>541258435You make $200k+?Doing what?
>>541258407Carney doesn't need any help doing precisely that. Yes I'll take a "bad" interim trade deal with the US over literal suicide.
>>541258407Im not deflecting anything.So what's your plan? you disprove of the Canadian governments actions but still support them because they're canadian? The leader of this country has 91% of his investments in American companies and that he personally disclosed to the ethics committee. Our 2 party system is retarded and completely rigged, politicians won't help us and a trade deal is just slowly peeling the band aid off. The country is done.
>>541258387>the WEFYou mean the same WEF that the US helped create and enable? Still comes back around to Americans allowing and tolerating all this global bullshit they keep helping cause. Also, once again Canadians suffer from the same problem as Americans, we don't get a real choice in leadership, our politicians are chosen for us, the voting process is just a fucking circus. If voting was real and effective they wouldn't let us do it. >>541258364>we're getting smokedBesides raw numbers by what? The US has openly admitted they can't even supply themselves or the Ukraine conflict OR most of their allies anymore. As it is they're in the middle of dismantling their assets in Asia to deal with Iran, at this rate they won't have anything left to throw at us (or our European allies who've already said they'd side with us)except raw numbers of people, which would require an EXTREMELY unpopular draft that would likely collapse any momentum the US has left as a union. We have a way better shot at surviving than anyone realizes despite how fucked of a situation we're in.
>>541258474I am a Plumber.
>>541258474Shilling for the Trump administration clearly, unless he's doing it (((for free))) because there aren't that many non-government jobs left in Canada paying triple digit sums to Canadians.
>>541258349If you think not having to pay for health insurance in Canada makes up for:>the 100% higher price to income ratio on housing>the 50% lower median household incomes>the higher income tax ratesthen you truly have a subhuman level IQ. I do not understand this cucknadian need to constantly COPE. The NPC behaviour of your average cucknadian is truly remarkable. Its like you arent even human.
>>541258636Sounds like you would take a big pay cut by moving to the US
>>541258633>The US has openly admitted they can't even supply themselveswe also haven't been able to do this in 4 decadesi don't think you fully comprehend the size of the United States military. you also have to realize we are next door and not on the other side of the planet. their logistics are better, their industry is better, hell in 2015 the hunters in Wisonsin ( a purple state btw) had enough guns and people to constitute the 8th largest army on the planet. they have superior air capabilities, 2 of the worlds largest Navy's and a military industrial complex larger than the industrial capabilities of our whole country.
>>541258604>our two party systemwe don't have a two party system, retards just keep getting corralled into supporting the two main parties because they have the most money and media attention behind them, reinforced by themselves whenever they win and give money back to said media/wealthy influences.
>>541258753The US does not have double the median household income as Canada
>>541258349>someone making 112k CAD in texas pays less taxes than someone making 80k CAD in ontarioare you retarded or baiting now
>>541258805youre right its only 36% thanks for the fact check kek
>>541248985>it's time for Canada to acquire nuclear weaponsyou've got a couple million jeet bioweapons, sorry but the rest of the world doesn't trust you anymore
>>541258767hey guess what? its even lower estimates in Canada, the average here gets paid $34 an hour almost as if there a market niche's and contract variances.if i did the same work i do here in the USA i would probably make about the same, just in USD so....40% more.
>>541258974the person you are responding to is legitimately retarded and doesnt understand the value of the USD vs CAD is not the same.
>>541258804you're right, the "first past the post" system is infinitely shittier.And all the remaining parties are either infinitely retarded or demonized by our state run media kek.
>>541258839>>541258894>>541258974You have to adjust the tax bill for the foreign exchange rate alsoFundamentally, this conversation isn't really worth having because if you look at the nominal wages in both the US and Canada they are similar, denominated in their own currencies. It's just that one currency is more valuable at the moment.The trend reverses whenever commodities are more valuable. Because our dollar was at parity or slightly more when oil hit >$150/barrel inflation adjusted in the late 00s/early 10s, our nominal wages, wealth, etc. was higher. We are probably going into a similar commodity cycle right now with oil, gold, and minerals all mooning together.It really is a grass is greener on the other side thing. You get guns but have to deal with niggers.
>>541248985>acquire nuclear weaponsWe're already on "The Round Table" no need to blackmail nations for a seat... Nukes don't exist.
>>541247674Drug gangs practically control canada. You don't know shit.
>>541251657>I legitimately don't understandZOG has us, The Rothchilds/Chabad.. Currently genocide Whites globa'ally under the guise of DEI/mass immigration etc.
>>541259151Same goes for you though anon>jewish mafias>wop mafias>cartels>your own intel agencies>local gangs and biker gangs
>>541259133>Fundamentally, this conversation isn't really worth having because if you look at the nominal wages in both the US and Canada they are similar, denominated in their own currencies. It's just that one currency is more valuable at the moment.what the fuck are you talking about, the fact US wages are 40% higher is very much a conversation worth having, especially when housing and tax rates are also lower there.>The trend reverses whenever commodities are more valuable. Because our dollar was at parity or slightly more when oil hit >$150/barrel inflation adjusted in the late 00s/early 10s, our nominal wages, wealth, etc. was higher. We are probably going into a similar commodity cycle right now with oil, gold, and minerals all mooning together.The cucknadian dollar is shit in spite of the all time high gold prices and elevated oil prices currently. When it goes back down, and we have no free trade with the US, the CAD will go to 1.7 against the USD.
>>541259459If you don't know what nominal means, we can't have a productive conversation
>>541259576'Nominal' wages are the amount of money you earn, without adjusting for inflation. It's frequently compared against 'real' wages or growth in an economic context.I think you are implying the word 'nominal' means something else when it doesnt. Im seriously questioning your IQ.
>>541247674The US military can comfortably operate without outside power long enough to fuck leafistan in the ass.
>>541257802>Crying about backstabbing, the policy change was a backstab?tearing up the existing deal, making a new deal, and then tearing up the new deal YOU YOURSELF created based on egregious lies is indeed the trade equivalent of a backstab
